Alice Cooper: Anti-Bush acts treasonous morons

[Michael Bluth]

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Shock-rock legend Alice Cooper calls rock stars campaigning for Democrat John Kerry treasonous morons.

The 56-year-old Cooper says he was disgusted to learn the likes of Bruce Springsteen, John Mellencamp, R.E.M., Sheryl Crow, James Taylor and Dave Matthews were hitting the road for a series of concerts designed to help defeat President Bush.

"To me, that's treason," Cooper told the Canadian Press. "I call it treason against rock 'n' roll because rock is the antithesis of politics. Rock should never be in bed with politics."

"When I was a kid and my parents started talking about politics, I'd run to my room and put on the Rolling Stones as loud as I could. So when I see all these rock stars up there talking politics, it makes me sick.

"If you're listening to a rock star in order to get your information on who to vote for, you're a bigger moron than they are. Why are we rock stars? Because we're morons. We sleep all day, we play music at night and very rarely do we sit around reading the Washington Journal."

"Besides," he continued, "when I read the list of people who are supporting Kerry, if I wasn't already a Bush supporter, I would have immediately switched. Linda Ronstadt? Don Henley? Geez, that's a good reason right there to vote for Bush."

As WorldNetDaily previously reported, Linda Ronstadt was escorted off the property of a Las Vegas casino after publicly supporting Bush-bashing film director Michael Moore, and singer Don Henley was subsequently booed on stage in Orange County, Calif., for expressing support for Linda Ronstadt during one of his own concerts.

Cooper, whose real name is Vincent Damon Furnier, is reportedly a strong Republican who joins Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., at NBA games in Phoenix.

He continues his own summer rock tour, with upcoming dates in the Northeast, Canada, California and Las Vegas.



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[swifferman]

This all shows you, kids like Alice Cooper are too stupid to be allowed to watch the news.

[Virtual]

Alice Cooper is a great band...sad to see that the guy is an idiot.

I agree with him about the part about rock being the antithesis politics...but it sounds to me like he is whining because other rockers actually care about this country.

"If you're listening to a rock star in order to get your information on who to vote for, you're a bigger moron than they are. Why are we rock stars? Because we're morons. We sleep all day, we play music at night and very rarely do we sit around reading the Washington Journal."

Maybe he's a moron and knows nothing of politics but that doesn't mean other rockers don't know anything.

"Besides," he continued, "when I read the list of people who are supporting Kerry, if I wasn't already a Bush supporter, I would have immediately switched. Linda Ronstadt? Don Henley? Geez, that's a good reason right there to vote for Bush."

Again, he obviously knows nothing of politics.

It sounds to me like this guy is whining and complaining because rockers are supporting Kerry when he likes Bush (for whatever reason that may be). But instead of using reasons to support himself he says "if I wasn't already a Bush supporter, I would have immediately switched. Linda Ronstadt? Don Henley? Geez, that's a good reason right there to vote for Bush." ---so he is saying that since those people support Kerry that is a good enough reason to vote Bush? wtf. He don't even know what he is talking about.

He is trying to say that rockers should not be involved with politics, while at the same time, he is mindlessly supporting Bush. Hypocritical.

[Michael Bluth]

Alice Cooper is a great band...sad to see that the guy is an idiot.

An idiot in what sense?

I agree with him about the part about rock being the antithesis politics...but it sounds to me like he is whining because other rockers actually care about this country.

Whining? How? Sounds to me like other "rockers" are trying to cash-in on the election.

Maybe he's a moron and knows nothing of politics but that doesn't mean other rockers don't know anything.

Yeah, because he totally went in-depth with his own political opinions in the article. He is saying that rock shouldn't be with politics, which is why he didn't get into politics in the article.

Again, he obviously knows nothing of politics.

Again, obviously, another ignorant statement.

It sounds to me like this guy is whining and complaining because rockers are supporting Kerry when he likes Bush (for whatever reason that may be). But instead of using reasons to support himself he says "if I wasn't already a Bush supporter, I would have immediately switched. Linda Ronstadt? Don Henley? Geez, that's a good reason right there to vote for Bush." ---so he is saying that since those people support Kerry that is a good enough reason to vote Bush? wtf. He don't even know what he is talking about.

Yes, that is his only reason for supporting Bush - because Rondstadt and Henley support Kerry. wtf. You don't even know what you're talking about.

He is trying to say that rockers should not be involved with politics, while at the same time, he is mindlessly supporting Bush. Hypocritical.

Really? So his concerts are to get people to go out and vote for Bush? He was seriously telling people to go out and vote for Bush?

You never fail to disappoint. :piss:

[The Dude]

damn you guys need to chill. Alice Cooper ownz all of you

[Virtual]

An idiot in what sense?

An idiot in the sense that he doesn't back up his argument.

Whining? How? Sounds to me like other "rockers" are trying to cash-in on the election.


He is complaining about how rock shouldn't be involved with politics because the rockers are supporting Kerry. I guarantee this article wouldn't exist if they were supporting Bush. Hence, whining and complaining...

Yeah, because he totally went in-depth with his own political opinions in the article. He is saying that rock shouldn't be with politics, which is why he didn't get into politics in the article.

He gave his political opinion of who should win the election. Here is the quote again...in case you missed it---"when I read the list of people who are supporting Kerry, if I wasn't already a Bush supporter, I would have immediately switched. Linda Ronstadt? Don Henley? Geez, that's a good reason right there to vote for Bush."

Yes, that is his only reason for supporting Bush - because Rondstadt and Henley support Kerry. wtf. You don't even know what you're talking about.

Can you read? or are you not understanding what I am talking about? This guy is obviously a moron and can't make his own decisions. Just because someone else supports the other party doesn't mean you should automatically support the other. That'd be like me going "Oh Adam, you support Bush? That's reason enough for me to vote for Kerry." It doesn't make any fucking sense.

Really? So his concerts are to get people to go out and vote for Bush? He was seriously telling people to go out and vote for Bush?

Nope. And I never said they did. But this article is about him saying how rockers shouldn't be involved with politics when he is blabbing his mouth about how we should vote for Bush. Let me give the quote again...."when I read the list of people who are supporting Kerry, if I wasn't already a Bush supporter, I would have immediately switched. Linda Ronstadt? Don Henley? Geez, that's a good reason right there to vote for Bush."

Adam, learn how to read. It will do us all some good. :piss: Adam

[Michael Bluth]

An idiot in the sense that he doesn't back up his argument.

His argument is that music and politics do not mix. Learn how to grasp the concept of an article, thanks.

He is complaining about how rock shouldn't be involved with politics because the rockers are supporting Kerry. I guarantee this article wouldn't exist if they were supporting Bush. Hence, whining and complaining...

whine ( P ) Pronunciation Key (hwn, wn) v. whined, whin·ing, whines
v. intr. To complain or protest in a childish fashion.

com·plain ( P ) Pronunciation Key (km-pln) intr.v. com·plained, com·plain·ing, com·plains 1. To express feelings of pain, dissatisfaction, or resentment. 2. To make a formal accusation or bring a formal charge.

Hey, sounds quite a bit like you.

He gave his political opinion of who should win the election. Here is the quote again...in case you missed it---"when I read the list of people who are supporting Kerry, if I wasn't already a Bush supporter, I would have immediately switched. Linda Ronstadt? Don Henley? Geez, that's a good reason right there to vote for Bush."

Ah yes, because Alice Cooper is sincere in his statement that people really should vote for Bush because Ronstady and Henley do not.

Can you read? or are you not understanding what I am talking about? This guy is obviously a moron and can't make his own decisions. Just because someone else supports the other party doesn't mean you should automatically support the other. That'd be like me going "Oh Adam, you support Bush? That's reason enough for me to vote for Kerry." It doesn't make any fucking sense.

In what way is he a moron? Because he is not comforming to what is "cool" in the entertainment industry? People are hopping on the anti-Bush bandwagon because it's the cool thing to do. I love how you take his quote seriously. It's not very surprising that you do. You know what doesn't make any fucking sense? How stupid you are.

Nope. And I never said they did. But this article is about him saying how rockers shouldn't be involved with politics when he is blabbing his mouth about how we should vote for Bush. Let me give the quote again...."when I read the list of people who are supporting Kerry, if I wasn't already a Bush supporter, I would have immediately switched. Linda Ronstadt? Don Henley? Geez, that's a good reason right there to vote for Bush."

Adam, learn how to read. It will do us all some good. :piss: Adam

About how we should vote for Bush.... hmmmm it seems like you need to learn how to read:

Yeah, because he totally went in-depth with his own political opinions in the article..... Yes, that is his only reason for supporting Bush - because Rondstadt and Henley support Kerry.

You know what would do us some good? If you weren't an ignorant fucktard in every sense imaginable. Amazingly wether it comes to video games or music or politics, you're a fucking prick with your head so far up your ass you check your own prostate weekly. Good thing you're not old enough to vote - and that you're the only one of you, or else this world would be fucked.

[peasantlover]

Adam, unfortunately, there is plenty more than one of him, and many of them can vote :(

[Virtual]

The article is just blatant protesting...some guy who is whining and crying because rockers are giving there political message (and its not the candidate he wants). So he gets an article. That simple.

You know what would do us some good? If you weren't an ignorant fucktard in every sense imaginable. Amazingly wether it comes to video games or music or politics, you're a fucking prick with your head so far up your ass you check your own prostate weekly. Good thing you're not old enough to vote - and that you're the only one of you, or else this world would be fucked.

WTF? you are disgusting...that was uncalled for. You just can't handle the fact that you can't even back up the article YOU POSTED. You make it apparent by posting a ridiculous, childish statement just as bad as Alice Cooper. Just because my argument makes more sense-you go and post that. Do us some good and stop posting stupid ridiculous articles that should never be published.

[plebben]

Who is Alice Cooper to decide what people write in their song texts? Or who they decide to vote for? Or who they , with their stardom, decide to show their support for?
How is a rock artist going on tour any different than hollywood stars or famous people on wall street showing support?

Rock music is about politics if the song/textwriter decides to write a text about politics. His reasoning just shows you what drugs and alchohol did to that mans brain over the years.

"When I was a kid and my parents started talking about politics, I'd run to my room and put on the Rolling Stones as loud as I could. So when I see all these rock stars up there talking politics, it makes me sick.
And that statement pretty much sums up why you shouldnt listen to him..
He dont give a fuck about politics is what he says.
He is proud he went away listening to rolling stones as a kid when people started taklking about politics.
Hows that for encouraging young people to be interested in politics?

[HereticPB]

Hmm, Ted Nugent, Alice Cooper while Bruce Springsteen, John Mellencamp, R.E.M., Sheryl Crow, James Taylor, Dave Matthews ,and Don Henely(Eagles ewww) support I told a lie, wait, no I didn't Kerry. I'd be a republican any day with Nugent and Cooper in my corner than those ass clowns for Kerry. Sorry to see REM on there.

Good for you Cooper tell it like it is!

[peasantlover]

The article is just blatant protesting...some guy who is whining and crying because rockers are giving there political message (and its not the candidate he wants). So he gets an article. That simple.



WTF? you are disgusting...that was uncalled for. You just can't handle the fact that you can't even back up the article YOU POSTED. You make it apparent by posting a ridiculous, childish statement just as bad as Alice Cooper. Just because my argument makes more sense-you go and post that. Do us some good and stop posting stupid ridiculous articles that should never be published.

Calling you a fucktard was uncalled for by Adam. However, your posts in this thread make no sense, and I think it was accurate to call you ignorant. No offense, but i really thought your statements were pretty ignorant. Plebben, and Virtual, I didnt see anywhere above that entertainers shoudlnt have the right to voice their opinions, or should be censored. He isnt whining. He is simply echoing what a LARGE part of the American population has felt for years - we are sick of entertainers telling us that we are idiots and should vote for who they tell us to, when they clearly show no knowledge of any political issues or what is actually important to regular American people. Why do you think Alec Baldwin movies have bombed lately, or the Dixie Chicks cant sell an album anymore? Because we want them to do their job, and stop trying to chove their political agenda down our throats.

[peasantlover]

Are you really surprised that R.E.M. is a liberal group Heretic? Have you ever paid attention to their lyrics?

[Virtual]

Calling you a fucktard was uncalled for by Adam. However, your posts in this thread make no sense, and I think it was accurate to call you ignorant. No offense, but i really thought your statements were pretty ignorant. Plebben, and Virtual, I didnt see anywhere above that entertainers shoudlnt have the right to voice their opinions, or should be censored. He isnt whining. He is simply echoing what a LARGE part of the American population has felt for years - we are sick of entertainers telling us that we are idiots and should vote for who they tell us to, when they clearly show no knowledge of any political issues or what is actually important to regular American people. Why do you think Alec Baldwin movies have bombed lately, or the Dixie Chicks cant sell an album anymore? Because we want them to do their job, and stop trying to chove their political agenda down our throats.

peasant, you are missing my point---how is his article any better than rockers voicing there opinion in songs? He is doing the same thing---except in article form. And where do you get off saying that entertainers are idiots and swaying votes? If I recall--its Alice Cooper who just said they are MORONS. Yet, he don't even have anything to back himself up. I get his point (rockers shouldn't voice their opinion in songs)-but I guarantee you if they were supporting Bush he wouldn't have said a word. I think they have a right to voice there opinion---little thing called freedom of speech.(whether it be for Bush or Kerry). That is their problem if the album bombs.

And how do my posts not make sense (or are ignorant).? Maybe if you took the time to read them and backed yourself up, instead of just posting biased comments, YOU might actually make some sense.

Plebben, and Virtual, I didnt see anywhere above that entertainers shoudlnt have the right to voice their opinions, or should be censored.

OK

we are sick of entertainers telling us that we are idiots and should vote for who they tell us to, when they clearly show no knowledge of any political issues or what is actually important to regular American people.

So, what are you saying---there SHOULD be freedom of speech and then later in your post, say that entertainers supporting Kerry SHOULDN'T have the right to speak? Little bit hypocritical, wouldn't you say?

[HereticPB]

I guess not. I only like one of their songs anyhow lol. So I guess this makes my above comment null and void. Well it looks like Ozzy is out of the list in my previous post via Celiberal.com.

HtPB

[Notedog]

I AGREE! Does anyone remember "He's back" by Alice Cooper? That one rocked! I agree though, that it's stupid to see all these rockers bringing politics in to music.

[HereticPB]

Music stars should not preach politics in their music because it limits their ability to make money and pisses off lots of people. People want to be entertained and not politically preached to.

What makes this different is Alice Cooper is stating this rather than bullshiting people in music to lean a certain way.

This country is divided heavily and it is getting worse yet these other people won't move out and they have to fuck with it and change it to some socialist Arm raising goose stepping country.

[peasantlover]

peasant, you are missing my point---how is his article any better than rockers voicing there opinion in songs? He is doing the same thing---except in article form. And where do you get off saying that entertainers are idiots and swaying votes? If I recall--its Alice Cooper who just said they are MORONS. Yet, he don't even have anything to back himself up. I get his point (rockers shouldn't voice their opinion in songs)-but I guarantee you if they were supporting Bush he wouldn't have said a word. I think they have a right to voice there opinion---little thing called freedom of speech.(whether it be for Bush or Kerry). That is their problem if the album bombs.

And how do my posts not make sense (or are ignorant).? Maybe if you took the time to read them and backed yourself up, instead of just posting biased comments, YOU might actually make some sense.



OK



So, what are you saying---there SHOULD be freedom of speech and then later in your post, say that entertainers supporting Kerry SHOULDN'T have the right to speak? Little bit hypocritical, wouldn't you say?

Not at all. They can do whatever they damn please. I wish they would stop crying when their albums stop selling because Americans who actually think about the issues dont like being preached to condescendingly by airhead entertainers (like the Dixie Chicks did - it is not denying your freedom of speech when people dont buy your albums or watch your movie).

As for your post not making sense, well from what I can gather you are calling Alice Cooper a hypocrit because he doesnt like the same candidate you do. You need to reread the article. Who he supports for president is completely irrelevant to his point. Here are his points 1. Americans dont want their rock stars and movie stars becoming Lobbyists (that point absolutely cannot be denied)
2. Most of the ones who do become lobbyists are idiots who dont understand politics (I dont see how you can deny that either.)

How is he a hypocrit? No where in the article does he lobby for Bush, or present any reason why anyone should vote for Bush. Also, no where does he claim that he has an acute understanding of politics, or even attempt to justify his support of Bush. In fact, it is my impression of the article that he is admitting he is apolitical idiot, and that is why he isnt talking about Bush at his concerts.

I'll give you an example to show you where he is comign from. At one of Moby's concerts, he took a break from the music to talk about defeating Bush. He said (this is not an exact quote) "we can use chat rooms to get Bush's voting block to stay home on election day. Go to pro-life websites and say "I heard Bush got an abortion for his girlfriend as a teenager." Go to NRA chat rooms and say "I heard Bush wants to pass new gun laws."

Do you not find that disgusting??? That Moby is encouraging his fans to spread lies about Bush to sway the election??

So it is not hard for me to understand where Cooper is coming from.

[ch33f]

Rock was built around politics but it was never about supporting politicians. John Cooper is a fucking moron and his music sucks. Good Night.

[peasantlover]

who is John Cooper?

[plebben]

Plebben, and Virtual, I didnt see anywhere above that entertainers shoudlnt have the right to voice their opinions, or should be censored.
His point is to redicule the artists who write lyrics with political agendas or go out and show their support for a political ideology. If that is wrong then the whole fucking convention idea that the american presidential election is based on is wrong since 100 of thousands go there dressed in bush/kerry shirts to show their support. Its like a political baseball match with people cheering on the candidates like a team. If thats dandy with you then rock bands going on tour should be faor and square aswell since they are only people airing their thoughts.

The underlying meaning of his article is to declare that if youre a rock musician youre not supposed to air your views abour politics.

Music is a medium to distribute beauty in the form of music, and a messege in the form of a text.
Thats why his whole article is idiotic. he doesnt say it out load but he would like all rock artits to just travel around geting alcoholic thrashing hotelrooms and just pretend that theyre a bunch of intelligenceless morons. necause that is the classic rockstar image.

When the music is all about making as much money as possible, then artists like brittney spears and justin timberlake appears. Do you actually want an industry of brittney spears and justin timberlake clones rather than the likes of john lennon, simon & garfunkle, U2 or many heavy metal bands and rap artists(maybe they dont fit in to this since rap i snot rock) who often brings up political and social issues in their lyrics?
theese suoer goodlooking stars singing texts about how innocent they are and how beautiful this and that imaginary boy or girl is? A text that you heard 2000 times before allready.
Political influenced lyrics are varied, they dont recycle the same meaning every fucking time. Lovesongs are great but it gets boring if an artist only has sex and intimacy as a theme over and over again.

[dncardman]

To much reading...anway I agree with him.

[The Dude]

I dont care if they are for/aginst Bush/Kerry. I dont think a celebirty should use their stage as a podium to preach their personal oppinion's.

[peasantlover]

His point is to redicule the artists who write lyrics with political agendas or go out and show their support for a political ideology. If that is wrong then the whole fucking convention idea that the american presidential election is based on is wrong since 100 of thousands go there dressed in bush/kerry shirts to show their support. Its like a political baseball match with people cheering on the candidates like a team. If thats dandy with you then rock bands going on tour should be faor and square aswell since they are only people airing their thoughts.

The underlying meaning of his article is to declare that if youre a rock musician youre not supposed to air your views abour politics.

Music is a medium to distribute beauty in the form of music, and a messege in the form of a text.
Thats why his whole article is idiotic. he doesnt say it out load but he would like all rock artits to just travel around geting alcoholic thrashing hotelrooms and just pretend that theyre a bunch of intelligenceless morons. necause that is the classic rockstar image.

When the music is all about making as much money as possible, then artists like brittney spears and justin timberlake appears. Do you actually want an industry of brittney spears and justin timberlake clones rather than the likes of john lennon, simon & garfunkle, U2 or many heavy metal bands and rap artists(maybe they dont fit in to this since rap i snot rock) who often brings up political and social issues in their lyrics?
theese suoer goodlooking stars singing texts about how innocent they are and how beautiful this and that imaginary boy or girl is? A text that you heard 2000 times before allready.
Political influenced lyrics are varied, they dont recycle the same meaning every fucking time. Lovesongs are great but it gets boring if an artist only has sex and intimacy as a theme over and over again.


Plebben, yer looking at it all wrong. Alice Cooper didnt say there should be a law passed against rock musicians lobbying. He didnt say it was treason against America. He said it was treasain again rock n' roll. His claim is it that it is going against what rock n' roll represents. Since he was a part of the birth of rock n' roll, dont you think he is qualified to judge that?

[plebben]

I never implied i thought he said there should be a law passed.
Music is music. There is no pattern in how someone should act as a rock end roll musician. What they do is their buisnes. Its their life. Its their choise. Fundamental basics of "the american lifestyle".

Music evolves.

Alice Coopers version of rock and roll might not have been influenced by politics, but who is he to say he knows what rock and roll is about? rock and roll is not the same thing today as it was 40 years ago. Today Rock and Roll is heavy influenced by people writing their own music and lyrics flavoured by their thoughts and experiences. They are people with opinions. Like you and me. Just because they have a talent that made them famous it doesnt mean they should shut up with their opinions.
You americans are all so proud of your freedom.
Guess what?
Freedom of speech is what these people practise. If you think they should be quiet about their opinions then you also deep down want to take away the freedom of famous people.

These people do music, its their life. If they want to do something different its up to them.

And no I dont think one man is qualified to judge what rock and roll represent.
However, if you think someone alone should be qualified to judge then dont you agree Springsteen is that man over Cooper? He has been many times more important to the rock and roll image than Alice Cooper ever was. Alice Cooper was all about fear and shock rock.

[Resident Darkness]

The dude said it. Celebrities should not use their stage to express their specific political opinions (I saw a concert where the frontman said to go out and vote and to let yourself be heard, that's fine and dandy). Alice Coopers ownz no matter what.

[advancemonkey]

Alice Cooper is a great band...sad to see that the guy is an idiot.

I agree with him about the part about rock being the antithesis politics...but it sounds to me like he is whining because other rockers actually care about this country.



Maybe he's a moron and knows nothing of politics but that doesn't mean other rockers don't know anything.



Again, he obviously knows nothing of politics.

It sounds to me like this guy is whining and complaining because rockers are supporting Kerry when he likes Bush (for whatever reason that may be). But instead of using reasons to support himself he says "if I wasn't already a Bush supporter, I would have immediately switched. Linda Ronstadt? Don Henley? Geez, that's a good reason right there to vote for Bush." ---so he is saying that since those people support Kerry that is a good enough reason to vote Bush? wtf. He don't even know what he is talking about.

He is trying to say that rockers should not be involved with politics, while at the same time, he is mindlessly supporting Bush. Hypocritical...... uhhhh why does this sound familiar, O YEA because if I am corect Leftists have holly wood... Now someone with a different opnion comes along and OOOOHH SHIT. Hmmm he has never been in polotics before ... he isnt now just because he likes Bush doesn't mean he is "in polotics". Ohh and the funnier thing is you dont know what he is talking about. I will put it plainly for you he thinks those people are wrong and them voting Kerry doesn't help. You cant take it. You are overly left, closed minded and one of the many people that shuts any other opinion off. You need to wise up because I have heard that fat-ass Michele Moore say alot of worst things and you give him ovations.

[peasantlover]

I never implied i thought he said there should be a law passed.
Music is music. There is no pattern in how someone should act as a rock end roll musician. What they do is their buisnes. Its their life. Its their choise. Fundamental basics of "the american lifestyle".

Music evolves.

Alice Coopers version of rock and roll might not have been influenced by politics, but who is he to say he knows what rock and roll is about? rock and roll is not the same thing today as it was 40 years ago. Today Rock and Roll is heavy influenced by people writing their own music and lyrics flavoured by their thoughts and experiences. They are people with opinions. Like you and me. Just because they have a talent that made them famous it doesnt mean they should shut up with their opinions.
You americans are all so proud of your freedom.
Guess what?
Freedom of speech is what these people practise. If you think they should be quiet about their opinions then you also deep down want to take away the freedom of famous people.

These people do music, its their life. If they want to do something different its up to them.

And no I dont think one man is qualified to judge what rock and roll represent.
However, if you think someone alone should be qualified to judge then dont you agree Springsteen is that man over Cooper? He has been many times more important to the rock and roll image than Alice Cooper ever was. Alice Cooper was all about fear and shock rock.


Again, it has nothing to do with free speech. This article isnt about politics, its about rock n' roll. It's pretty much a fact that in the era Alice Cooper was successfull in rock wasnt about politics. Cooper isnt the first musician to be nostalgic for the good ole' days, or to think these silly kids dont know real kids. That is his opinion, you think rock n' roll should be about politics; thats fine, but it doesnt make it a hypocrit.

Btw, it is my opinion that Bruce Springsteen has always been greatly overrated. ( I do like the Eagles, tho..)

[plebben]

Obviously you want me to say i think rock and roll is about politics, but please read again because i didnt.
Just because I debate your arguments it doesnt mean I think the opposite is right.
Nowhere did I imply that I think rock and roll is about politics.
Nowhere.
All I said was that if musicians decide to do their music with political influences its their choise. Its not what you wish to hear that matters, its what they decide to express.

I agree Springsteen is overrated. But thats just my and your ears saying so. Sure, he did some monster tunes, but all in all his music is mediocre imo.
But this does not change the fact that he is one of the biggest rock and roll artists ever. He has had influence over rock and roll that greatly exceeds that of Alice Copper. Or The Eagles for that matter.

[MONSTER ZERO]

Rockers and Madonna make me sick

[peasantlover]

Obviously you want me to say i think rock and roll is about politics, but please read again because i didnt.
Just because I debate your arguments it doesnt mean I think the opposite is right.
Nowhere did I imply that I think rock and roll is about politics.
Nowhere.
All I said was that if musicians decide to do their music with political influences its their choise. Its not what you wish to hear that matters, its what they decide to express.

I agree Springsteen is overrated. But thats just my and your ears saying so. Sure, he did some monster tunes, but all in all his music is mediocre imo.
But this does not change the fact that he is one of the biggest rock and roll artists ever. He has had influence over rock and roll that greatly exceeds that of Alice Copper. Or The Eagles for that matter.

Agreed. And all I am saying is that if Alice Cooper wants to call being political treasonous to rock n' roll, that is his choice. It is his opinion, and it is ridiculous to call him a hypocrit or criticize him for it...

[plebben]

Call him hypocrit can be rediculous, that i agree to. But criticize him is a pretty sane thing to do. Since were debating here :)

[peasantlover]

ok then. you criticize him for expressing his opinion, on the grounds that other rockers should be able to express his opinion... makes perfect sense there ;)

[plebben]

No im not criticizing him for expressing his opinion.. im criticizing his opinion...

[peasantlover]

lol. ah well. I think he has a point.

[Notedog]

When Alice Cooper said he thought rock stars who throw concerts to influence politics were treasonous in a recent interview, he didn't mean treason against the United States.

Cooper has issued a statement clarifying his recent comments.

Cooper said he had clearly said in the interview rock stars doing concerts for presidential candidates were guilty of "treason against rock and roll." He said he didn't mean treason against the president, the government or the U.S.

He said people shouldn't vote for a candidate just because a rock star says so, "and that's true whether it's Bruce Springsteen or Alice Cooper."

Cooper added that rock and roll is rebellious and that spirit doesn't mix well with political fund-raisers and electoral campaigning. He said that's all he meant -- nothing more and nothing less

[aerofan113]

This is kinda a dumb post so lemme just get this one single point across:
REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT OR TREE HUGGERS SHOULDNT GET THEIR VOTING ADVICE FROM CELEBRITES OR ROCK STARS. The friggin celebritys and rock stars need to just keep out of it all and let the people decide.

[peasantlover]

heh. Well we agree on something after all Aerofan :)