Console Wars hurting the competition?

[Dwhitten]

One day I was sitting back and thinking to myself, how much money is Nintendo,Sony and Microsoft loosing because of stiff competition? Well think about it Nintendo had to cut back prices to stay in the hunt for the best selling console and it hasnt even been out a year yet as well as Microsoft's system so you know they are loosing money on this one. I think the company that has made the most profit off thier console and without loosing from cutback's on prices is Sony, because remember when Ps2 first came out? The damn thing cost around $500 and they didnt even have to drop it until Nintendo and Microsoft got in the chase. So do you think competition is really a good thing for the gaming business(especially Nintendo and Microsoft)?

[=NukeBlaze=]

Yes and NO. The largeeet facor that we have lost is time...

With competetion as strong as it is people now have little time to sit back and wonder, and create. This is one of the reasons this is hurting everyone. We will get good games..But I have not found one on the current -gen systems that have left me with"THE WARM FUZZIES" like the game of the past have. Life is in the details..And game creation should stay there as well. If not we wil run the well dry too soon too early.

[Kenshin2]

they should all join forces and make one console, they wouldent loose profit and you wouldent have to buy 2 different consoles to get all the games you want:D

[Diesel]

Originally posted by dwhitten1023
...remember when Ps2 first came out? The damn thing cost around $... Nah, I dont remember that. I bought my PS2 the day it hit the stores and the price was $299.99

Anyway, the competition, amongst Sony, Nintendo and MS, is good, IMO. They force each other to put out the best. If Nintendo puts out a game/ad-on that's just awesome, then Sony/MS will have to put out something to counter Nintendo's...it makes each company better.

[Dwhitten]

Well if my memory serves me right the price for a Ps2 wasnt even around $299 back when it first came out............

[Bryan]

Memory, apparently, doesn't serve you. The suggested retail price of the PS2 at its launch was $300. Unless you went to JCPenny's, that's what the price was.

Competition is good for the consumer, but not for the corporation. Corporations can lose millions of dollars in competition, but if they didn't compete, they'd lose more. Sucks for them, but its a good thing for us. Within time, profits will come.

[Diesel]

Originally posted by dwhitten1023
Well if my memory serves me right the price for a Ps2 wasnt even around $299 back when it first came out............ It may be time for a catscan then. I purchased my PS2, from Babages, on the day it hit the stores...and the price was $299.99.

[Dwhitten]

Maybe I was thinking of something else................

[XX_revolution]

PS2 was priced at 299.99 bucks but thn ppl would sell them on online auction sites and they would go for 500+.

[Diesel]

Yeah, exactly. I worked at Babages, during the PS2 release, and many of the PS2-less customers, who didnt reserve thier own PS2, offered me $500+ for my system.

[XX_revolution]

Lol, I bought a DC at the PS2 launch. Right in front of all those ppl who camped out for a PS2.

[dncardman]

ha good one

[XX_revolution]

I had some ppl shoot me dirty looks but I thought it was rather humourus to do that.

[defgamer]

competition is a must, the more the cheaper for us, if it was only one company making games, we would spend a lot more, god knows how much, for a freaking console, where there is no competition, company can name any price, usaully it's high.

[Dee Dubya]

It's business. if they wanna invest so much into their machines it's their problem.

[Juan]

Originally posted by Rurouni_Kenshin
they should all join forces and make one console, they wouldent loose profit and you wouldent have to buy 2 different consoles to get all the games you want:D

All right. If you´re willing to pay $700 for a console, plus $120 for games, then go ahead.

[ChriZno]

Hey, $120 thats almost what we have to pay for the games... we pay $100... and the consoles all costed like $700 when they first got out here.... hmmm..... :(

Well the problem with joint venture is simple to explain... but i believe someone else has said it sooo much better before me... so I'll go ahead and quote HolyPaladin (if u dont mind) and his sig:

Brief History of the Fall of Gaming:
•Microsoft buys up major game studios, leaving competition with minor ones.
•Microsoft claims first place in console wars.
•Nintendo, lacking critical support, drops out of race and develops for Microsoft.
•Sony, steadily losing support to Microsoft, throws millions of dollars into the fight.
•Suffering terrible financial losses, Sony drops out of console race, leaving only Microsoft.
•Without competition, Microsoft sets console prices at $500 and games at $80.
•Without competition, strive for cutting edge is lost, with gaming seeing little advancement.
•Poor game quality and high prices cause sharp decline in game and hardware sales.
•Severe financial losses are taken industry-wide.
•Smaller software houses shut down and larger ones downsize to stay afloat.
•Interest is lost in a fast declining form of entertainment.
•Microsoft has lost the billions of dollars tied up in gaming and files for bankruptcy.
•Gaming officially dies despite a promising future at the beginning of the twenty-first century.

THERE!!!! That's why they SHOULDNT join "forces" all competition is lost and games just get shittier and shittier... :D

BTW thats the best sig ive ever read!! make it up yourself HP?

[Oni_Link]

Competition is good most of the time. The companies will most likely strive to make a better game, but when a big company with a load of money like microsoft shows up, it may just turn into a struggle to not be bought out. If there was only major video game maker, they would probably monopolize the industry. On the other hand, when there is more than one company, the race for a newer, faster console starts and the one you just paid $200 bucks for is now outdated.

[Juan]

You guys say "a company with a shitload of money like Microsoft", like Sony and Nintendo didn´t have their own shitloads of money themselves.

[XX_revolution]

Only thing I have noticed is that all these former NFire members hate MS and Xbox.

[Gen]

Yet they use windows.....

[dncardman]

well no duh almost every day most peopel use microsoft stuff

[monkey_pirate]

im an old nfire, and i am starting to go to x-box, the only reason they didnt like microsoft is because so manny x box fan boyz would come to the site and talk shit abut GC, but now that thats over with i think we can all live in peace

[gameologist]

I think the problem is that if you don't you take your time an realize that this industry needs competition to stay afloat then your destined to be a unhappy gamer. Imagine a world where there is only one company per product that exist, thus eliminating the need for price reduction, making for a bad economy. One of the great things about competition is that there's always a better product in the market. Each company has to one-up the other to make a profit. Right now videogame developers know that the only way their games are going to be successful, is they have to give the kind of experience that other's haven't or sometimes can't. From what I've read, developers like to choose what platform they want to develope their games on and not be forced to buy publishers even popular demand.

Would you like a sport if only one team won the championship for decades? No! There's no competition.

Would you have a T.V if Sony was the only manufacturer? No! Probably couldn't afford one.

And I think some dislike M$ because they are afraid they will try to monopolize the gaming console industry. I like the fact that Nintendo, Sony , and M$ have consoles. And M$, Xbox fanboys seem to be a little to over confident in the Xbox becoming the number one console in the next 4 years. I visited the Teamxbox forum and they believe this miracle is going to happen. The Xbox doesn't have a viable advantage and Sony doesn't have a viable disadvantage to warrant this miracle. Sony did have a big advantage compared to Nintendo and Sega with the PS1.

[Colin™]

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