I hate Capcom....for their lies

[OutlawAdidas]

Capcom is now one of the many hated developers on my list. I now hate them with a passion. I can't believe that they would do something like this...for towards RE 4. If you hate them now, please voice your opinion

[Nights]

If you want to make the developers mad so they stop releasing any titles for a Nintendo system...this is the way to go.

[Notedog]

Blame Nintendo for releasing a system that can't sell games, God forbid that Capcom want to make money off a franchise that USED to sell millions of copies when it was on PSone, only to come to gamecube where sales are less than one third that they were previously. How dare Nintendo, I hate them for their stupid marketing, and their lack of appeal, it sucks how their such assholes that they take quality companies like Silicon Knights and Capcom down with them every time they fuck up.

[Vishus]

Dude you should be thankful. I'm not mad at them at all. I admit it feels like crap but don't hate them. They gave us REmake, REzer0, Viewtiful Joe, and PN03 (ok not the best game but thats something for the mainstream). Now they're giving us VJ2, Killer 7, and RE4. Capcom has done more for Nintendo than any other 3rd party developer. Don't say EA. Capcom making games come out on the GCN first, exclusive, or it just happens that its not on the other systems is a big contribution to the GCN.

[Hylian-Advocate]

This happens for so many games it's really not that big a deal.......Its nearly a year apart from the GameCube Launch.....It will have allready saturated the market by then...I do think its kinda rediculous that they didn't keep their word....but which game company toady truely does.

[Nights]

Well Nintendo didn't keep there word on how much it would sell and how many systems they would sell to Capcom when the contract began.

This is Nintendo's fault.

[goku2057]

People, people. You have to remember, video games are a BUSINESS, not a charity. Does Capcom stand to make more money by developing RE4 JUST for a Nintendo system? Or will they make more money by selling it on BOTH systems?

It's actually quite simple, people make games to make money, and they want to make as much money as they can from each game.

[Prince]

Why blame Capcom? All major third parties have either left GCN development, are leaving, or scaled back support. The only one to blame here is Nintendo for not caring.

[Michael Bluth]

This happens for so many games it's really not that big a deal.......Its nearly a year apart from the GameCube Launch.....It will have allready saturated the market by then...

So look at the Grand Theft Auto Double Pack on Xbox; it included GTA 3, 2 years after it came out and Vice City a year after it came out. But it still sold like crazy, as will San Andreas when it comes out.

[HylianKWG]

I knew Prince and Adam would be all over this one.

[The_Cat]

I don't care what other systems it's on as long as I get to play it.

[Viper]

REmake and RE0 both sold over 1 million copies worldwide. Sales potential was never part of the reason for having them all on just one console. Go back and read the announcements in 2001.

If sales potential was a factor, it would have been multiplatform from day one and console exclusivitey would never even been a possibility.

If sales potential meant anything, Capcom would pull all Xbox support as well. Xbox makes up the lowest percentage of Capcom game sales. This 'maximizing potential sales' is a lame ass excuse that could be applied to all Capcom properties on any non-Sony console.

In Japan, honor still plays a huge role even in business. Remember Square and Nintendos fall out was largely in part to each feeling they were dishonored by the other.

Capcom has removed what honor they had gained from the very fans that gave them life....Nintendo.

[goku2057]

It's all about the Benjamins baby.

[Nights]

Gamecube Sales Predictions were figured in to the original contract.

(This was part of the reason)

Nintendo didn't meet their own.

[Viper]

Show me the projections. I've never seen any and yet both of the major releases sold over a 1 million each with RE4 looking to easily duplicate that if not outsell them together.

[Prince]

Nights is talking about Nintendo's GCN hardware projections I think...

Nintendo said they would sell 50 million Cubes by March 2005 and they are VERY far off their projection (only at 15m).

I don't think the contract with Capcom was ever revealed, but that could very well be (one of the) reasons that RE4 is being ported to PS2. I know that MS did some contracts like that earlier on.

[Nights]

The projection was not on the Resident Evil system, but the gamecube sales itself.

[koten]

I fucking boycot Capcom.

[Nights]

That will make them want to develope DS titles!

ROFLOL

[koten]

Nights, you are an idiot. I don't want to know anything about capcom anymore. They are now one of my least respected companies. I mean, first they start whoring out Megaman with 10 Megaman EXE games on GBA, then We get Vjoe and lose it, then we get Killer 7 and lose it, and now they we get RE4 and lose it. They are a bunch of basterds. I hate them.

[Mach]

Capcom sells on Xbox are pitiful so those lil xbox fanboys dont have nothing to talk about.
05-12-2003, 09:16 AM
Capcom's announced their worldwide sales data for the last year. GameCube sales exceeded. Xbox and PS2 sales missed.


Capcom today announced their worldwide sales data for the fiscal year 2002 and their projections for the future.

On the PS2 front, things have been far lower than expected, with the firm selling around 2 million less than their 8,750,000 target. The final numbers come in at 6,830,000. Capcom has blamed disappointing sales of Clock Tower 3 and the Western release of Devil May Cry 2 for the slump.

Despite Tekki selling out worldwide, the Xbox results paint a similar picture, with just 280,000 units sold overall, less than half of their 600,000 target.

On the Game Boy Advance, 4,800,000 games were sold, but strangely Capcom's cutting back support on the platform this year, cancelling 10 of their planned games.

And contrary to certain reports, the firm actually sold more GameCube games than they expected to. Total sales are at 3,230,000, 200,000 units above their initial expectations of 3,200,000.

For the fiscal year 2003, Capcom's expecting the following sales.

PS2: 6,830,000 target (34 releases)
GameCube: 3,230,000 target (18 releases)
Xbox: 280,000 target (10 releases)
Gameboy Advance: 2,040,000 target (17 releases)

Capcom's vice president Heiji Oshima has said they're banking on games like Biohazard Outbreak and Dino Crisis 3 to improve PS2 and Xbox figures. He also mentioned that Resident Evil 4 may not be released until the next fiscal year.

[Hisham]

LMAO, Boycot if you want. See if Capcom will show this much support next gen then. I don't give me any shit about them not being a big player. They have probably been the biggest 3rd party supporter of the Gamecube. You should be kissing there feet for bringing system sellers to the Gamecube.

[Nights]

What Shin Said.

[Michael]

I don't think it's that deep anymore, when I first heard it, it was really crappy in my mind, and it still is, it's like a set back of nintendo. I was waiting for this to happen, but not so soon, I mean if they would have said it was exclusive up until like 3 months after the realse, the system could benefit alot more then realsing this news now in my mind. I'm still glad that it's coming out on at least one of the systems I own, but being mad about it won't get anyone anywhere, unless the hells of nintendo so how realse and scare Capcom shitless, I don't see any kind of deturent of it's realse.

[Ravster]

I also gotta agree with S.Akuma. We shoudl thank capcom they're even bring RE4 onto the gamecube

[Viper]

I agree, the timing of this Press Release is absolutely horrid. RE4 is a system seller but only if you don't own another console with it relasing for it too.

[Michael]

Yeah...I mean they knew this would have a counter effect on sales for the Gc version, so why do it...they've been in the game along time, they know better...I bet nintendo is pissed right now, very pissed..

[Viper]

All that talk of Mikami leaving last year may have had some basis for it. Isn't he the one that said it would remain exclusive or he would cut off his own head?

[Michael]

^Oh, so he left...thta would explain alot...but did he retire or something, because you could tell he wanted to atleast give the Gc a chance to see what I could do when it had a really good M rated game exclusive to the console...kinda like testing the water in a way...that makes it worse now...

[Teh Roxor!]

Who cares? You still get to play it. You just have a choice now. Choice is good, even if it means that people might pick it up for PS2 instead of your precious Gamecube.

[Viper]

No, he didn't leave but there were reports he did. More than likely, he threatened to and the story leaked.

[OutlawAdidas]

Mikami better explain this. I want a better explaination. I think Capcom's hand was forced

[Michael]

Oh I see...but does that really have anything to do with what just happened...I mean how would that change stance on his previous statements, unless the team was really pissed that it's a gc exculsive and somehow forced him to make it multi-console.

[Blaksmoke]

I'm not all that schocked, really....this is what happens when you don't meet expectations. :=/

[Viper]

I'm not all that schocked, really....this is what happens when you don't meet expectations. :=/
And contrary to certain reports, the firm actually sold more GameCube games than they expected to. Total sales are at 3,230,000, 200,000 units above their initial expectations of 3,200,000

Actually, GC is the only console that been meeting expectations.

[Nights]

That is after there expectation were lowered.

Plus things have gotten worse for Nintendo and better for everyone else lately.

[Colin™]

My god people, who cares?

You got RE0, VJ, and RE4.

Be grateful that you have those games to play.

[koten]

That is after there expectation were lowered.

Plus things have gotten worse for Nintendo and better for everyone else lately.

Nights, please provide facts, not oppinions.

[Nights]

Alright lets see.

Gamecube should have 50 millions systems out now. Instead they have 15 world wide.

Enough said.

Look what they released on the Xbox. Their big game was a game that requires a expensive controller, what were they expecting?

Just because I'm not a Nintendo fanatic doesn't mean I don't know my facts, you can look it up.

[Blaksmoke]

Actually, GC is the only console that been meeting expectations.

That report is a year and a half old.

[Nights]

and things have become worse from the cube since then. Xbox is now officially number 2 and after the holiday season by a landslide. However back then Gamecube was.

[dncardman]

Damn, baaad timing. Many PS2 owners would have purschased a cube just for this.

[nWo4life1949]

:piss:
ok, outlaw, check this. if yer gonna blame capcom for, one, not wanting to make more money and make the re4 experience available for others not owning a gc, and two, for deciding to put re4 on another platform thats not nintendo, then you got issues. so capcom puts re4 on the ps2, get over it, its still on gamecube. it may nott be as graphically-gruesome as it is on game cube, but whats it matter, nobodys forcin you to get nor play it.

[downtime19]

Hey! We all know how awesome RE4 will be.now stop talking about that and talk about how badass Killer7 is gonna be!!!

[OutlawAdidas]

:piss:
ok, outlaw, check this. if yer gonna blame capcom for, one, not wanting to make more money and make the re4 experience available for others not owning a gc, and two, for deciding to put re4 on another platform thats not nintendo, then you got issues. so capcom puts re4 on the ps2, get over it, its still on gamecube. it may nott be as graphically-gruesome as it is on game cube, but whats it matter, nobodys forcin you to get nor play it.


Dude, its was supposed to attract alot more gamers to the GC. Fuck the PS2. The Cube has a special memory chip that Capcom used wisely and thats the reason why it loads so well. But the PS2 just loads so slow. I have seen the PS2 try to load a mediocre game like 4x4 Evolution and that shit took forever. RE4 for the PS2 will be a piece of shit. Also, who the fuck are you?

[neo999955]

I didn't really read all the responses, but my response to your initial statement is that I am very angered at Capcom, and I think what they have done is down right wrong, to lie to the world for so long, having known for atleast a few months now that RE4 was going to eventually find it's way over to PS2, ugh, it erally just pisses me off.

That said I will be ordering the Special Edition RE4 for GCN.

[Vishus]

If this is crap then the REV has to get to where the DS is.

[Sendok]

To be honst I am a bit ticked off that Capcom announced this before the cube launch. But this business is all about the money.

Lastly, I'm seriously worried about the cube. While there are a few games on it I want to play i just don't want to shell out the money for a new system. Sure i do have 37 games on the system, or was it 36...oh hell it dosen't matter. I have no ambition to get a new cube.

MP2 looks P.I.M.P. however its to close to Halo 2.
the new LoZ is chippin away at the edge of my mind, but enough to make me pull $150 to get it and the system again...right now i have to say no.

Now I love nintendo's games don't get me wrong, but...between school, work, life in general i personally just can't see myself supporting the cube anymore than i already have. Sad yes....but what yah gonna do?

[ThePlatinumKnight]

It all comes down to this:

Capcom decided that Money was more important than Values/Ethics/Morales/Ones Word/ ect.

They sold out plain and simple!

If Mega Man X series and the Resident Evil Series where not my most favorite series of all time I would never consider buying a Capcom game EVER again.

RE4 is my most anticapted game in my 21 years on this planet. If it wasnt for that I wouldn't buy it.

I have RE0, RE1, RE2 on N64, Mega Man X on Snes. All the games I own are either Nintendo First Party/ Exlusive, EA Sports or Capcom games.

And Benjudd spare me this:
"Lets escape from reality into a morally perfect utopia where none of us lie and we are all perfect beings..."

Talk about PR Spin! Is this supposed to be an excuse. So the world is full of lairs so that supposed to make it okay. What's the saying "If everyone jumps off a bridge......"

I will buy this game the day it is released, but I will be mad when the PS2 version gets all the bonus material and all the cool extras.

I refuse to buy a non Nintendo console. I got every one Nintendo ever made except Virtual Boy. See Nintendo fans are smart. I'm a hardcore RE fan but im not paying $39.99 for a several year old port of RE2 OR RE3. They where supposed to be $19.99 yet another Capcom lie.....

Product Number 2 was just garbage, and Capcom is mad we didnt buy it. Viewtiful Joe sold well and what does Capcom do, port it over to PS2 and make the sequel multiplatform. Its a lose lose for Nintendo.

Ask yourself this:
Is Capcom more interested in making Great, Highly Rated games, Critcally Acclaimed games, that garner mediacore sales, or releasing a crappy "Mature" game that that goes quadruple platinum and makes them Millions of dollars.

The power of the allmighty yen.....
Money is definatley the root of all evil......

[hottgamer12]

Capcom sells on Xbox are pitiful so those lil xbox fanboys dont have nothing to talk about.
05-12-2003, 09:16 AM
Capcom's announced their worldwide sales data for the last year. GameCube sales exceeded. Xbox and PS2 sales missed.


Capcom today announced their worldwide sales data for the fiscal year 2002 and their projections for the future.

On the PS2 front, things have been far lower than expected, with the firm selling around 2 million less than their 8,750,000 target. The final numbers come in at 6,830,000. Capcom has blamed disappointing sales of Clock Tower 3 and the Western release of Devil May Cry 2 for the slump.

Despite Tekki selling out worldwide, the Xbox results paint a similar picture, with just 280,000 units sold overall, less than half of their 600,000 target.

On the Game Boy Advance, 4,800,000 games were sold, but strangely Capcom's cutting back support on the platform this year, cancelling 10 of their planned games.

And contrary to certain reports, the firm actually sold more GameCube games than they expected to. Total sales are at 3,230,000, 200,000 units above their initial expectations of 3,200,000.

For the fiscal year 2003, Capcom's expecting the following sales.

PS2: 6,830,000 target (34 releases)
GameCube: 3,230,000 target (18 releases)
Xbox: 280,000 target (10 releases)
Gameboy Advance: 2,040,000 target (17 releases)

Capcom's vice president Heiji Oshima has said they're banking on games like Biohazard Outbreak and Dino Crisis 3 to improve PS2 and Xbox figures. He also mentioned that Resident Evil 4 may not be released until the next fiscal year.

Hoping to improve only X-Box and PS2 figures? X-Box's figures needs help, but PS2 already has the highest figures. Capcom can kiss my butt. Those Sony favoring, Nintendo predjiduce jerks.

[hottgamer12]

Capcom sells on Xbox are pitiful so those lil xbox fanboys dont have nothing to talk about.
05-12-2003, 09:16 AM
Capcom's announced their worldwide sales data for the last year. GameCube sales exceeded. Xbox and PS2 sales missed.


Capcom today announced their worldwide sales data for the fiscal year 2002 and their projections for the future.

On the PS2 front, things have been far lower than expected, with the firm selling around 2 million less than their 8,750,000 target. The final numbers come in at 6,830,000. Capcom has blamed disappointing sales of Clock Tower 3 and the Western release of Devil May Cry 2 for the slump.

Despite Tekki selling out worldwide, the Xbox results paint a similar picture, with just 280,000 units sold overall, less than half of their 600,000 target.

On the Game Boy Advance, 4,800,000 games were sold, but strangely Capcom's cutting back support on the platform this year, cancelling 10 of their planned games.

And contrary to certain reports, the firm actually sold more GameCube games than they expected to. Total sales are at 3,230,000, 200,000 units above their initial expectations of 3,200,000.

For the fiscal year 2003, Capcom's expecting the following sales.

PS2: 6,830,000 target (34 releases)
GameCube: 3,230,000 target (18 releases)
Xbox: 280,000 target (10 releases)
Gameboy Advance: 2,040,000 target (17 releases)

Capcom's vice president Heiji Oshima has said they're banking on games like Biohazard Outbreak and Dino Crisis 3 to improve PS2 and Xbox figures. He also mentioned that Resident Evil 4 may not be released until the next fiscal year.

Hoping to improve only X-Box and PS2 figures? X-Box's figures need help, but PS2 already has the highest figures. Capcom can kiss my butt. Those Sony favoring, Nintendo predjiduce jerks. I know why they decided to transfer RE4 to the PS2(why not the X-Box) They can't fool me. I know that it had nothing to do with multiplatform sales. It had much to do with Sony sales. Perhaps Capcom games fare best on Sony's systems. If that's so, all they had to do was say it instead of trying to put one over on us Nintendo fans.

[Kliq]

Yeaaaaa .... Capcom really stabbed us in the back with this one. Like someone mentioned, they could have atleast WAITED until after the GCN version was released for them to announce this - because RE4 seemed like a system seller. Now people who are too cheap will just wait for the Ps2 version.

[DarkCloud515]

I guess everyone will be very surprised when they announce how many developers they already have...

[Sheena Subaru]

The Gamecube is only $99.99 now. And they're doing a bundle deal where you get Mario Kart: Double Dash and TWO controllers. So really if you were a hardcore RE fan and wanted to play RE4 in January instead of waiting until the end of 2005, how hard would it be to shell out $99.99 and get a deal like that?

[Nights]

If you asked me you shouldn't buy a cube.

Buy a DS first. It'll last longer, it has more 3rd party support, it'll have more stuff, and is a nice change of pace. Plus it would be more benificial for Nintendo to have higher DS sales right now.

Mario 64 is better than Sunshine anyday.
I hoping the Metroid game for the DS will be sweet as well.

[OutlawAdidas]

If you asked me you shouldn't buy a cube.

Buy a DS first. It'll last longer, it has more 3rd party support, it'll have more stuff, and is a nice change of pace. Plus it would be more benificial for Nintendo to have higher DS sales right now.

Mario 64 is better than Sunshine anyday.
I hoping the Metroid game for the DS will be sweet as well.



Oh shit, yea, no one asked you


I say do wat you want. Get a cube or not. Its your choice. I bought a cube because of the kick ass games. Thats my reason. Everyone has their reasons. If you have the money, then you have the power

[Nights]

Hmmm...Did you even read the whole post?

[Backlash]

Actually, I would wait to buy a cube if you didn't already have one, since after Christmas in the slow shopping season, the GC might get a price drop. Especially around E3 once the new systems are unveiled.

I wouldn't say don't buy a cube at all though, there is still a big back catalog of awesome games (and most are Player's Choice by now, which means cheapness!) that you can buy.

[X2_revolution]

Capcom sells on Xbox are pitiful so those lil xbox fanboys dont have nothing to talk about.
05-12-2003, 09:16 AM
Capcom's announced their worldwide sales data for the last year. GameCube sales exceeded. Xbox and PS2 sales missed.


Capcom today announced their worldwide sales data for the fiscal year 2002 and their projections for the future.

On the PS2 front, things have been far lower than expected, with the firm selling around 2 million less than their 8,750,000 target. The final numbers come in at 6,830,000. Capcom has blamed disappointing sales of Clock Tower 3 and the Western release of Devil May Cry 2 for the slump.

Despite Tekki selling out worldwide, the Xbox results paint a similar picture, with just 280,000 units sold overall, less than half of their 600,000 target.

On the Game Boy Advance, 4,800,000 games were sold, but strangely Capcom's cutting back support on the platform this year, cancelling 10 of their planned games.

And contrary to certain reports, the firm actually sold more GameCube games than they expected to. Total sales are at 3,230,000, 200,000 units above their initial expectations of 3,200,000.

For the fiscal year 2003, Capcom's expecting the following sales.

PS2: 6,830,000 target (34 releases)
GameCube: 3,230,000 target (18 releases)
Xbox: 280,000 target (10 releases)
Gameboy Advance: 2,040,000 target (17 releases)

Capcom's vice president Heiji Oshima has said they're banking on games like Biohazard Outbreak and Dino Crisis 3 to improve PS2 and Xbox figures. He also mentioned that Resident Evil 4 may not be released until the next fiscal year.

Yes, but Capcom's Xbox support is pityful.

[goku2057]

Why not buy a Cube now? Say, i want to buy Mario Kart (Again) I might as well get the GC bundle for 99, cause you get 2 controllers too. It's like giving the system away for free.

[OutlawAdidas]

awesome. Yea go get a cube now. Thats a hell of a deal

Then you can trade in both controllers and MK DD and get a wavebird

[Prince]

The MK: DD bundle only comes with one controller

[Backlash]

Yeah, I was just saying, that a price drop is most likely in the next 6-8 months, so if you don't HAVE to have a cube now and you can wait, then go ahead and wait. It really depends on your situation though, I suppose.

[OutlawAdidas]

Well I say, do wat you want, but the Cube is mad cheap now, so just go and get it.....or wait til the day after Thanksgiving