Pistons vs. Pacers Madness

[Michael Bluth]

Was just watching it on TV, HUGE fight. Artest ran up into the stands to beat-up a fan and then O'Neal came and sucker punched another one. As they were going back on the court a fan stepped up to Artest, Artest swung and missed and kept walking but O'Neal followed and suck-punched him too. The fans absolutely drenched the team with beer and were throwing a bunch of stuff, even lunging at them as they were exiting to the locker room. It all started when Ben Wallace was about the beat the shit out of Artest for his dirty play.... and then Artest ran up into the stands. Expect to hear tons of news on this in just a little while, and all tomorrow. HUGE fines, HUGE suspensions. They called the game with fourty-some seconds to go, too. Insane.

[Haris]

FWAHHHHHHH!!!!

I LoVe you INDIANA

I just started my infatuation with this team, and then seeing Steve Jackson striahght pummel some white dude only increased it.

I'm so glad they rocked Detroit and their Pillsbury Fro Boy.

Adam, you missed the part where the fan threw a beer bottle into the court. That's why Artest went up there. All wallace did was push artest for fouling him.

[Michael Bluth]

Virtually everything was suckerpunches to guys who had their backs turned. I can't say I'm surprised.

[Haris]

Just like the dude said. They pussy piston fans were taking shots at people cause they outnumbered them.

If any of those fat white men ever faced off against Jermaine Motherfucking O'neal without distractions, he'd run so fast...

[dncardman]

Damn I can't believe I missed that, i would have loved to see the brawl.

[Haris]

It was...

different.

[Kliq]

I MISSED THE FIGHT, i'll have to see it tommorow.

MADNESS, the whole game was crazy. Every player was pissed off for various reasons, it was only bound to happen.

[Haris]

What matters is, my pacers killed the world champions.

Right?

[Michael Bluth]

It was Stephen Jackson, not O'Neal. My mistake, they all look the same.


Our local news station had different angles, I guess a Pacers player was getting beat down by a big black Pistons fan. Jackson only took cheap shots, and Artest didn't even go after the right guy, which is why he was so surprised. What a bunch of class acts. At least somebody threw a chair at them. Wait after reading something it was O'Neal who got a shot in at the end. Like I said, they all look the same.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=241119008


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[goku2057]

Ahahahaha. Serves his ass right. Sounds like someone is getting their come-uppance.

[Pro A.]

Wallace is gonna get suspended for instigating the fight in the first place. Jackson and Artest are gonna get major suspensions. This blows because Artest is on one of my fantasy teams.

[Michael Bluth]

Artest instigated it. That was a blatent and unnecessary foul with the game already being over with 45 seconds left and he just hacks Ben. Ben reacted as any normal NBA player would, and shoved - did not punch. Artest..... yeah... he'll have plenty of time to promote his rap CD.

[goku2057]

Owned!

[Michael Bluth]

http://video.contemporaryinsanity.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Downloads&file=index&req=getit&lid=46


That's just Artest going up into the stands. It doesn't show Jackson's or O'Neal's sucker punches, or what the fans were doing as they were leaving through the tunnel.



Edit: FULL THING!:

http://mfile.akamai.com/12942/wmv/vod.ibsys.com/2004/1120/3935750.200k.asx

[Jon]

DUDE! Who else saw this shit? It was the fucking coolest thing ever to happen in basketball. Seriously. Basketball usualy sucks ass but this was so fucking sweet! Damn, did you see that fat fuck piece of shit get the fuck knocked out of him by that Piston player? They were kicking the shit out of those fans. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Michael Bluth]

http://www.nintendonow.com/forums/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=30590



yo

[Oddyssey]

lol yeah i saw that i wished i taped it

[Shayde]

http://videos.webrats.com/brawl.php

The fans are fucking stupid for throwing shit and provoking the players and hitting the players who were trying to break it up. Jones gets hit in the back of the head by some huge black guy.
Many people became a whole lot richer tonight, ecspecially the guy who was originally attacked by Artest..he clearly had a drink in his hand and more than likely didn't throw the cup. And some guy got hit hit in the head with a chair. And I saw on ESPN some old lady on the bottom of a pile.

[meowmix]

it should be everyone on the internet soon, so dont worry

[Michael Bluth]

Yeah Artest went after the wrong guy, and Jackson then just punched some random guy sitting off to the side. Cockburns.

[Michael Bluth]

Already is..... which is in the link I posted.

[Jon]

This is too cool to be put in that forum. This a general discussion quality. Nobody goes to that part of NNow.

[alpha]

Seems more like you don't want your thread to be deleted.

[Jon]

Alpha. Shut the fuck up. You are a little fucking queer with no life and a small penis. Get the fuck out of my thread.

[alpha]

All of them acted so retarded.

[MONSTER ZERO]

that shit was crazy!! when Artest was leaving the court you can see that he was regretting all the stupid shit he did….what a dumbfuck

[Michael Bluth]

As retarded as Halo 2.

[Serene Samus]

That was soooo crazy. It was hella cool. I just walked into this pizza place and saw it on tv. It was some crazy shit. Damn that was wild.

[Kliq]

That was madness, but the fans had no right to get involved. They only instigated the situation, and Artest was already pissed of as it is. I don't think theres one person to blame here, a lot of people were involved: Ben Wallace, Steven Jackson, Ron Artest, the fans.

[Kliq]

Threads MERGED.

[Kliq]

Sorry for triple post:

Heres a 25 MB version of the video ( higher quality ) The video isn't as long as the other versions though.

http://students.washington.edu/tkz/Fight.avi

If anyone finds better qualities, post them here.

[Michael Bluth]

It seems like every replay there's something new. The fan who held Artest back is now being said to be the one who threw the beer at him in the first place, and after holding him back for a short while he start to punch him in the back on the head. Some crappy noname Pacers player came out of the tunnel wielding a dustpan, as though he were going to hit people in the crowd with it.

[Haris]

Wow. You guys who are blaming the players are total bitches.

It was the drunk homo fans that started the shit, and Artest's foul might have been accidental.

Artest is a great fucking player, along with Jackson, and they deserve some respect.




Even if Artest is trying to rap.

[Michael Bluth]

Artest is a bipolar psycho. I don't know if you've ever noticed or considered this, but players are taunted all the time. Have you ever watched a football game? Shit is thrown at players all the time. But they are suppposed to be PROFESSIONALS, they are paid millions of dollars to not act like cockburns. But because Artest is such a dumbfuck, he did what he was not supposed to do - he did what very few would do - and attacked a fan. Not even the right fan.

If you don't think this is Artest's fault, you're just ignorant.

[Kliq]

Hey, when you're hit with a fucking beer bottle I think you have some sort of right to defend yourself.

[Kliq]

DOUBLE POST:

NEW YORK - The NBA suspended Ron Artest, Jermaine O'Neal and Stephen Jackson of Indiana and Ben Wallace of Detroit on Saturday for taking part in one of the ugliest brawls in U.S. sports history.
The suspensions were indefinite, and the league was still investigating Friday night's melee, which commissioner David Stern called "shocking, repulsive and inexcusable _ a humiliation for everyone associated with the NBA."

The league issued a statement saying it was reviewing rules and security procedures "so that fans can continue to attend our games unthreatened by events such as the ones that occurred last night."


There we go, but I'd like to see the fan who threw that first beer bottle face some kind of consequence (if they can find him).

[Michael Bluth]

Yeah too bad it wasn't a "fucking beer bottle". Try a "fucking plastic cup".

[Kliq]

If you watch the movie you'll see that he ignored the first thing thrown at him, and then was splashed with beer (not sure if it's glass or plastic) ... but the fan deserved the ass whooping.

And those two fans who walked into the court, they deserved the smack down they got. They had no right to be on the court, especially during a situation like that.

Pistons security sucks.

[Michael Bluth]

Have you EVER been to an NBA game? Or any sporting event? They do not give fans glass. Common sense. And do you know what the first thing thrown at him was? A towel. The second fan didn't even do anything, he went out there to pick-up his friend, and O'Neal, being the gangsta that he is, slid-in and sucker punched him for no reason.

Kliq's ability to examine a situation sucks. I'd like to see security at any other venue act differently.

[Kliq]

What was his friend doing on the court to begin with?

Location: Michigan

Obviously you're going to be biased when it comes to the situation. I don't like the Pacers or Pistons, so I don't care who the bad guy was. Ben Wallace shouldn't have pushed Artest. He also got the crowd all crazy with his gestures.

Artest shouldn't have reacted the way he did, but he was provoked.

[Haris]

Hey, whatever. It was wicked cool.

[Michael Bluth]

What was his friend doing on the court to begin with?

Location: Michigan

Obviously you're going to be biased when it comes to the situation. I don't like the Pacers or Pistons, so I don't care who the bad guy was. Ben Wallace shouldn't have pushed Artest. He also got the crowd all crazy with his gestures.

Artest shouldn't have reacted the way he did, but he was provoked.

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The second fan didn't even do anything, he went out there to pick-up his friend, and O'Neal, being the gangsta that he is, slid-in and sucker punched him for no reason.

Yes, I live in Michigan, but I also have common sense. Crazy, huh? :uhoh: . Artest should have never hit Ben in the back of the neck. The game was over, and Wallace was just going for an easy lay-in. But Artest would have none of that, and just hit him right in the back of the neck. Wallace did as many others in the NBA do - they push.

[Kliq]

Ben should have just accepted the foul and went to the free throw line, its really not that serious.

[Haris]

I agree.

[Michael Bluth]

I love how you guys can support Artest for attacking fans but Wallace can not "back himself up" against another NBA player, the dirtiest player in the league at that. Typical.

[Hylian_Deity]

OK, Adam is dumb. You say Ron did a dirty foul. False! That foul was maybe a hard foul at most. It was nothing compared to the raping Wallace got away with on Arest on the previous play. Wallace was just mad because him and his team had got frickin' owned and embarassed on their homecourt. So what's he do, he goes neck/head hunting with that shove he did. He should've been tossed on teh spot, but the refs let him jaw jack and jaw jack. Wallace's immature actions incited the fans even more. Then Artest, separates himself from the action, and Wallace throws a towell at him. The Detroit fans, obviously not a bright bunch, observe Wallace throwing stuff, and one guy does the same. The beer hits Artest in the FACE. If you think that doesn't hurt, go get a beer shake it up, and open it right in your eyes. See how it feels. In fact, let me go buy a beer, head to your housem and launch it in your face. Surely, you'll show restraint since it makes no sense to have higher expectations for someone else besides yourself.

In fact, let's all go to Adam's house and launch beer in his face. He will do nothing about it apparently.

Let's face it, security sux0red there. Buckwheat err... Ben Wallace, totally overreacted to the foul call. Artest, overreacted to getting Beer in his face, but I see his reaction as more understandable then Wallace's. As soon as fan assaults a player, they've broken the boundary. The one person that got straight jacked by both Artest and O'neal was on the fricking COURT!! If a fan is on the court, they should get beat. They have no right to be out there, nonetheless talking smack at Artest and acting like you're going to throw blows. That douchebag got what he deserved. I also loved Commissioner Stern's statement about "protecting teh fans." Protecting the fans! He has got to be kidding. He should be talking about protecting the players from these idiots. The NBA should relocated all detroit games for the season to a neutral site.

Oh yeah, nice touch of racism with "they all look the same."

Edit: Oh yeah, another test for you to do Adam. Go outside and lay down on the ground. Then have your mom, dad, brother, girlfriend, whatever go fill up a plastic cup with Ice and beer. Then they go on top of the roof of where you reside and then launch at it your face. Then come back and post when you stop crying.

[Kliq]

Nicely said man, nicely said.

[Michael Bluth]

OK, Adam is dumb. You say Ron did a dirty foul. False! That foul was maybe a hard foul at most. It was nothing compared to the raping Wallace got away with on Arest on the previous play. Wallace was just mad because him and his team had got frickin' owned and embarassed on their homecourt.

Be it a hard foul or not, it was incredibly unnecessary. Oh yeah, Ben just totally took a shot at Artest's neck, didn't he? They were beat, not "owned" and "embarassed". Those two words describe last year's Eastern Conference Finals.

So what's he do, he goes neck/head hunting with that shove he did. He should've been tossed on teh spot, but the refs let him jaw jack and jaw jack.

Yet again, it is okay for Artest to take a shot to Wallace's neck from behind, but when Wallace steps up to Artest, it is not okay. Typical.

Wallace's immature actions incited the fans even more. Then Artest, separates himself from the action, and Wallace throws a towell at him.

Immature actions? So that was Wallace lying on the scorer's table? And then Wallace put on some radio headphones? Artest was acting like a cocky douchebag, which is why Wallace threw a towel at him. oh nos!1111! t3h tow3l111!!!!!!111

The Detroit fans, obviously not a bright bunch, observe Wallace throwing stuff, and one guy does the same.

Yep, they threw stuff at Artest because Wallace did. Not because of their pure hatred for a cockburn. Whatever it may have been, the fan was not right in throwing beer at Artest. That I am not arguing, it should not have been done. Artest's reaction, however, was way out of line. And the Pacers deserved all the shit being thrown at them when they were going out the tunnel, that's for sure.

The beer hits Artest in the FACE. If you think that doesn't hurt, go get a beer shake it up, and open it right in your eyes. See how it feels. In fact, let me go buy a beer, head to your housem and launch it in your face. Surely, you'll show restraint since it makes no sense to have higher expectations for someone else besides yourself.

It amazing how little you kids are able to comprehend. Jesus christ, it's really not that difficult of a concept to understand. Right in the FACE, huh? What would shaking a beer up have to do? It was in a plastic cup. Really, can you kids not understand this? I don't know many people who shake-up a plastic cup and then throw it at people, nor do I see what shaking it up would do in the first place. But yeah, feel free to come over, I'd enjoy making you look like the little bitch you are :) .

Another thing you kids don't seem to understand is that Artest is a professional athlete. Do you think this is the first time he has been instigated before? Taunted? Do you think this is the first time he's had something thrown at him? Stop being ignorant. The unwritten rule of all of professional sports is that you do not touch the fans, no matter what happens. You either let the authorities handle it or get out of the situation. On top of that all, he was on national television. So I can honestly say, that I would have not attacked another person that had done that if I were in his position:

1) A professional athelete that was
2) On national television and
3) Did not even know who the person who threw the beer was

He just jumped up there, started yelling and hitting random people. But what's what most normal people would do, right? You're just as much of a cockburn as he is. If this were a game of streetball, then yes, I would have acted the same way as him. But you see, unlike the Pacers and the posters of this thread, I have common sense. Interesting concept, no?

Let's face it, security sux0red there. Buckwheat err... Ben Wallace, totally overreacted to the foul call. Artest, overreacted to getting Beer in his face, but I see his reaction as more understandable then Wallace's.

The security was different in Indiana, how? Were you not watching how many police were there? I don't know many security guards who anticipate a professional athelte jumping into the stands to punch random fans. This could have happened anywhere, and it would have happened to exact same way. Stop being ignorant. Did Wallace overreact? Yes. Did Artest overreact? Yes. Did Wallace overreact more than Artest? Fuck no. And you're a moron if you think otherwise.

As soon as fan assaults a player, they've broken the boundary. The one person that got straight jacked by both Artest and O'neal was on the fricking COURT!! If a fan is on the court, they should get beat.

The fans should get beat if they're on the court? I guess you've yet to witness a college football team win an important game. They have broken a boundary, but it is up to the professional athelte to be the bigger person. That is simply how it is.

They have no right to be out there, nonetheless talking smack at Artest and acting like you're going to throw blows. That douchebag got what he deserved.

Should he have been out there? No. Should he have gotten hit for being out there? No. He put his hands to his sides, we know this thanks to the amazing technology known as video. Try watching it some time, it may enlighten you. After being enlightened, you can start making posts about stuff you actually know about.

I also loved Commissioner Stern's statement about "protecting teh fans." Protecting the fans! He has got to be kidding. He should be talking about protecting the players from these idiots. The NBA should relocated all detroit games for the season to a neutral site.

He has got to be kidding? Who the fuck do you think pays those players' salaries? Once again, you need some common sense kid. Relocate all Detroit games? Why? Incase a bipolar psycho decides to run up into the crowd again?

Oh yeah, nice touch of racism with "they all look the same."

Yep, because I meant every single black person out there. Every single one.

Edit: Oh yeah, another test for you to do Adam. Go outside and lay down on the ground. Then have your mom, dad, brother, girlfriend, whatever go fill up a plastic cup with Ice and beer. Then they go on top of the roof of where you reside and then launch at it your face. Then come back and post when you stop crying.

1 plastic cup from a few feet away, at an angle. Quit being such an ignorant fuckup.

[Hylian_Deity]

Be it a hard foul or not, it was incredibly unnecessary. Oh yeah, Ben just totally took a shot at Artest's neck, didn't he? They were beat, not "owned" and "embarassed". Those two words describe last year's Eastern Conference Finals.



Yet again, it is okay for Artest to take a shot to Wallace's neck from behind, but when Wallace steps up to Artest, it is not okay. Typical.



Immature actions? So that was Wallace lying on the scorer's table? And then Wallace put on some radio headphones? Artest was acting like a cocky douchebag, which is why Wallace threw a towel at him. oh nos!1111! t3h tow3l111!!!!!!111



Yep, they threw stuff at Artest because Wallace did. Not because of their pure hatred for a cockburn. Whatever it may have been, the fan was not right in throwing beer at Artest. That I am not arguing, it should not have been done. Artest's reaction, however, was way out of line. And the Pacers deserved all the shit being thrown at them when they were going out the tunnel, that's for sure.



It amazing how little you kids are able to comprehend. Jesus christ, it's really not that difficult of a concept to understand. Right in the FACE, huh? What would shaking a beer up have to do? It was in a plastic cup. Really, can you kids not understand this? I don't know many people who shake-up a plastic cup and then throw it at people, nor do I see what shaking it up would do in the first place. But yeah, feel free to come over, I'd enjoy making you look like the little bitch you are :) .

Another thing you kids don't seem to understand is that Artest is a professional athlete. Do you think this is the first time he has been instigated before? Taunted? Do you think this is the first time he's had something thrown at him? Stop being ignorant. The unwritten rule of all of professional sports is that you do not touch the fans, no matter what happens. You either let the authorities handle it or get out of the situation. On top of that all, he was on national television. So I can honestly say, that I would have not attacked another person that had done that if I were in his position:

1) A professional athelete that was
2) On national television and
3) Did not even know who the person who threw the beer was

He just jumped up there, started yelling and hitting random people. But what's what most normal people would do, right? You're just as much of a cockburn as he is. If this were a game of streetball, then yes, I would have acted the same way as him. But you see, unlike the Pacers and the posters of this thread, I have common sense. Interesting concept, no?



The security was different in Indiana, how? Were you not watching how many police were there? I don't know many security guards who anticipate a professional athelte jumping into the stands to punch random fans. This could have happened anywhere, and it would have happened to exact same way. Stop being ignorant. Did Wallace overreact? Yes. Did Artest overreact? Yes. Did Wallace overreact more than Artest? Fuck no. And you're a moron if you think otherwise.



The fans should get beat if they're on the court? I guess you've yet to witness a college football team win an important game. They have broken a boundary, but it is up to the professional athelte to be the bigger person. That is simply how it is.



Should he have been out there? No. Should he have gotten hit for being out there? No. He put his hands to his sides, we know this thanks to the amazing technology known as video. Try watching it some time, it may enlighten you. After being enlightened, you can start making posts about stuff you actually know about.



He has got to be kidding? Who the fuck do you think pays those players' salaries? Once again, you need some common sense kid. Relocate all Detroit games? Why? Incase a bipolar psycho decides to run up into the crowd again?



Yep, because I meant every single black person out there. Every single one.



1 plastic cup from a few feet away, at an angle. Quit being such an ignorant fuckup.


*runs through idiot translater*

I"m a st00pid troll. Blah blah blah. I know nothing about basketball, blah blah blah. I think fans should be allowed to go onto the court and provoke the players. troll troll troll I'll ignore the fact that Wallace, in teh same garbage time, clobbered Artest teh play earlier. i r teh blind... I"ll ignore Wallace inciting the phans to throw stuph and still blame Artest who did kept away from buckwheat....i also know absolutely nothing about last year's ECF where the Pacers had injuries to both Jamaal Tinsley and JO, and though that was an owning, the recent game where teh Pacers still suffering from NUMEROUS injures and the Pistons being full manned and getting smoked is not an owning....p.s. i hate black people

Oh, that's what you were saying. I'm so glad I picked up the idiot translator so I can finally understand the nonsense that comes from your mouth. If you can't realize that Wallace purposely incited the fans to throw stuff, then you must be blind and high :smoke:

Peace racist ;)

[Michael Bluth]

Yeah thought so, you have no defense you fucktard. Don't post such ignorant trash and save me some time from having to correct every retarded thing you say.

[peasantlover]

H Deity, you a moron.. anyone who starts accusing people of racism when they are losing an argument shouldnt be involved in any argument to start with..

anyway, my observations..
1. it was a clear flagrant foul, and Ben Wallace was right to respond the way he did
2. The fans were complete trolls, and deserved what they got.
3. The 3 pacers players are thugs, they will probably be suspended for the rest of the season, and lose millions of dollars... not to mention fucking up any championship hopes the pacers might have had. The jackasses deserve it tho.
4. Ben Wallace got completely screwed. The only thing he did was respond to a hard foul by pushing Artest.. once the fight started he was no where to be fined. Yet he got "suspended indefinately," the same fine as the Pacers players.. ridiculous.

[MONSTER ZERO]

I agree with adam and peasant lover that hylian deity is an idiot…I mean that Ben Wallace isn’t to blame because he shoved Artest after being fouled. This jerk off gets paid millions (because he's a "professional")and was thrown a plastic cup and beats the shit out of some random fan. Did he see who threw it? it doesn’t matter this wanker wanted to fight the entire arena. But yeah you guys are right its not like artest was provoking the fans by acting all big shit and laying down in a table. :uhoh:

[Hylian_Deity]

You guys are missing the point. Wallace acting very immaturely kept inciting the crowd, he then took a towel threw it at Artest and looked towards the crowd. After that, the fans started throwing stuff. I'm not saying he was the only one to blame, just that him being the first to start throwing stuff, should not get a free pass. The three Pacer players in questioned did mess up, but please, Adam just sounds like a Pistons mark with the trash he's spewing.

Do you guys even play basketball? Just wondering because it sounds like you don't.

The racism thing, I just interpreted what he said. How else does it sound when someone referring to a group of African-Americans says, "They all look the same."

Plus, I love the "victim-blame" stuff you guys are doing. "Artest was asking for it", "he shouldn't have laid on the scorer's table so cocky like" or whatever the reason that was said. Might as well say the woman in the short skirt deserves to get raped since she's "asking for it." You guys are classic :)

[goku2057]

I'll end this, now.

Ben Wallace can't be blamed. With 45 seconds left, and the Pistons down by 15, Artest fouled HARD on Ben Wallace, which was completely uncalled for. Ben Wallace got mad, hit him, and then Artest laid on the table like the cocky bastard he is.

An unruley fan then tossed a cup of ice at him, and without thinking he immediately ran out into the stands, and started beaing the shit out of a random person, whom may or may not have thrown the cup.

I understand emotions were high, but you would have to be a COMPLETE DOLT to run out into the stands and attack some fan. Artest should have gotten a police officer/ authority figure to tell teh crowd to stop, and then they could have gone on with the game.

[Hylian_Deity]

I'll end this, now.

Ben Wallace can't be blamed. With 45 seconds left, and the Pistons down by 15, Artest fouled HARD on Ben Wallace, which was completely uncalled for


But Wallace had just laid an even more DEVASTATING foul on Artest on the previous play. Shouldn't he be criticized just as much then.

I had no problems with either. I expect Wallace to play the game a full 48 minutes just like Artest.

[Kliq]

I agree with adam and peasant lover that hylian deity is an idiot…I mean that Ben Wallace isn’t to blame because he shoved Artest after being fouled.

Are you an idiot? If people shoved each other everytime they got fouled than we'd have serious problems. Ben Wallace was just being a sore loser because they were 45 seconds away from a loss. He needed to just walk over to the free-throw line and shoot them.

[Kliq]

JUST IN!

Artest suspended for the rest of the SEASON!

Stephen Jackson suspended for 30 Games.

Jermaine O' Neal suspended for 25 Games.

Ben Wallace: 6 Game Ban

Anthony Johnson: 5 Game Ban

Reggie Miller, Chauncey Billups, Elden Campbell and Derrick Coleman suspended 1 game each.

NBA was real strict about this.

[goku2057]

Ahahahahaha!

He'll have LOTS of time to advertise his rap album now. He be a real gangsta.

[goku2057]

But Wallace had just laid an even more DEVASTATING foul on Artest on the previous play. Shouldn't he be criticized just as much then.

I had no problems with either. I expect Wallace to play the game a full 48 minutes just like Artest.


There is a big difference between being down 15, and being up 15.

[Sandman]

I must not have seen the same original foul as you guys, because the foul I saw was hardly a foul.

[goku2057]

Ben was going up for a dunk with like 45 seconds left. and Artest jacked his shit up real good. wallace then proceded to lay down the law.

[Sandman]

I saw Ben Wallace going up for a layup with Artest pursuing him and contesting the ball while hardly hitting Wallace. It was a foul, but a weak and arguably accidental one at that.

[Michael Bluth]

Wallace was going to lay it up and Artest got him across the back on the neck. The situation is now in the books, and Artest has plenty of time for his career because he be straight-thuggin'.

[MONSTER ZERO]

Are you an idiot? If people shoved each other everytime they got fouled than we'd have serious problems. Ben Wallace was just being a sore loser because they were 45 seconds away from a loss. He needed to just walk over to the free-throw line and shoot them.


wow d00d wow.. i was just comparing the shoving to punching random people as who should be blamed for that night. as you can see the NBA did the right thing; you however, are a fucking moron.

[goku2057]

Are you an idiot? If people shoved each other everytime they got fouled than we'd have serious problems. Ben Wallace was just being a sore loser because they were 45 seconds away from a loss. He needed to just walk over to the free-throw line and shoot them.


And Ron Artest was just being a complete jackass. He needed to just stay on the court after getting hit by that cup, but we all know what happened there.

[Michael Bluth]

My question is: Who in the hell is Anthony Johnson? And what did he do to get 5 games? I've never even heard of the guy.

[Kliq]

wow d00d wow.. i was just comparing the shoving to punching random people as who should be blamed for that night. as you can see the NBA did the right thing; you however, are a fucking moron.

No, you were saying that it was Ron Artest's fault for fouling Ben Wallace for no reason.

I'm saying: Basketball is a contact sport and things like that happen. Ben over-reacted.

[goku2057]

Wait, wait. Kliq, whose the guy who jumped into the stands and got in the fight with the fans again!?

Was that Ben Wallace?

Thought not.

[Kliq]

I'm definitely not defending Artest, I'm just saying that the fans involved (if they're ever found) should be punished.

Artest got what he deserved.

But Ben escalated the problem.

[ch33f]

That was awesome to watch, the Pacers should be thankful for the ammount of crowd control there was, those mutha fuckers should be dead.

[Mach]

I think every last one of those idiotic animal "players" should never be allowed back in the NBA again. Seriously, what a bunch of heathens!
They think they're so big and bad and that the rules don't apply to them. They think they can act like total 10yr old dumbasses on national television. They think they can go on rampages to PAYING fans by sucker punching innocent bystanders, kicking, stomping, and throwing chairs! They're ought to be a rule preventing animals like that from ever receiving millions of dollars. Look at 'em. It should be a crime.

Customers (same as fans) are always to be Number 1 in any business. I could see a player shoving a fan if the fan attacked them first, but attacking random people and pussy hitting fans for walking on the court is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of.
These dumbasses have no sense of professionalism, decency, and honor.
Sickening.
Thank God I don't watch the NBA anymore.

[peasantlover]

Maybe, but the fans should be barred from coming back to the stadium (the fans directly involved, I mean)

[Michael Bluth]

The ones who hit players and threw shit, yes, they should be barred and have police investigations as well. But so should O'Neal, Artest and Jackson.

[ch33f]

http://sports.ign.com/articles/568/568085p1.html

This article pisses me off, I can't stand people like this dude that are always saying; If this was that and if that was this and if they were here, he also says sportsman ship is dead, he is stereotyping hundreds of different sporting cultures and sports themselves over one event, this fag should be the one getting hit by Artest.

[Kliq]

If Ron Artest doesn't foul Ben Wallace in the back, none of this would've happened.

That's so lame, fouls happen in the NBA all the time.

[peasantlover]

Ron Artest is a thug, plain and simple.. he deserved what he got.