Don't Buy Sony

[Shotgun Plasma]

PS2 will break after 5 or 1 year, I think Sony use this advantage to get more money so they used cheap hardware and make PS2 used those dread "Read disc error"

Xbox and Nintendo never had those problem, they both strong system because mircosoft and nintendo care about us, sony only care about money and greed.


I will never see or play PS2 or PSP, they both crap.

Don't buy it, even you sent it to sony to fix it or replace a new one, it will still break later, hell..N64 and super nintendo both still work and they last 15 years! Sony only last 1 years or 5 month.

There are some discussions of this somewhere in nintendonow news speical feature about this terriable machine. My Ps2 just died last night, I just brought it last year. Only 1 year?!

I regret myself for selling gamecube for PS2.....I just wish Nintendo grow up a little so they can add online and hot babe and more horror games...

[Nights]

You know I have had to return a Xbox because the hardrive was bad....

I also had a Nintendo DS and they Touch Screan stopped working after a couple days. Then I had another one with dead pixels.


The moral of the story:

Don't buy anything you might get a defective one... OHHH...NOOO!

[Shotgun Plasma]

I wonder why super nintendo and 8 bit nintendo still working while NEW ADVANCED system doesn't? was it a little fan which super nintendo and 8-bit don't have? there must be a way to make system last longer.

[Nights]

That also remind me that my dreamcast doesn't work anymore...it won't read discs. I had to get a battery replacement for my Sega Saturn and the N64 stopped powering on.

So moral of the story, don't buy new systems.

I wish all products were more durible.

[orcus116]

Actually the guy's right in a sense. Sony products, and I'm talking about all things Sony, just don't seem like they were built to last. Now while I haven't had a problem with my PS2 my walkman, which I bought last July, is getting near shot, and it started having problems in May. Same thing happened to my last walkman. My friend's PS2 also broke down after a year or so of use, sent it away to get "fixed" and ended up having to buy a new one. Sony products just have a track record of not being all that durable.

[exile]

Yep, my sister bought a Sony MD and the earphones stopped working after the warrenty ran out.. we went to buy more at BestBuy and guess what? The clerk offered us insurance because he had the same problem with Sony headphones (he had 2 pairs both quit before a year was up so he decided not to buy anymore sony). She just ended up buying some other brand that actually is doing well ;D

Moral of the story: Nights must misuse his electronics because it's just odd how his 'things' break.

[Ravster]

^hahah pwn

But yea my gamecube has to have any problems.

[Shotgun Plasma]

I remember before i sell gamecube, it last 3 years long which is good, how stupid i am...but nintendo is a little bit stupid too, if they accept a little bit more "adult games" I wouldn't sell it...

[Flaccid Acid]

Why you .... Tequmour... talk... cave man... *roar*

[Shotgun Plasma]

You have two options:

1 option is to try be my brother and teach me grammar or

2 option is you can have sex with me with sony wrapper (think condom, okay buddy?)


in case if you want to know, I am a man, no shit.

[exile]

I came to the understanding that he was foreign or something... Am I wrong?
-- Anyways, I suppose this arguement has come to an end.

[Shotgun Plasma]

heh heh....you posted 51, in other words, YOU HAVE no idea who i am from here the last 3 years...

[Ravster]

^Shotgun Plasma.....innit

I know, Ive been here long enough...lol

[Shotgun Plasma]

heh heh...

[Viral Mutation]

My PS2 broke after 2 years of good care, My walkmen is doing great -although the Mega Bass makes the sound turn shitty at high volume

[koten]

Why you .... Tequmour... talk... cave man... *roar*

LMAO!!!!!

Seriously.

Don't worry though Shotgun Plasma/Requmour/Tequamour, he was joking. Don't get mad so fast.

[exile]

Sorry Tequmour, but I was under the impression that you were... Maybe your 10-years old and haven't learnt to construct a sentence yet?

[Shotgun Plasma]

sorry wrong answer...next

[exile]

You're typing with one hand, maybe because your busy with the other :)?

[Shotgun Plasma]

You're typing with one hand, maybe because your busy with the other :)?


Anyone said that should be drug out into the street and shot.

[Ravster]

^Done and done

I've so many people post saying that there Ps2's have broken. Anyone got the official number of how many complaints/returns there have been?

[Shotgun Plasma]

maybe thousands....

..seriously night saying all his system break seem odds, it look like he not a very good caretaker...

[Ravster]

Yes, very odd. Ive not known anyone to own 3-4 systems and then find out they've all broke

[orcus116]

I bet the reason the number of PS2s sold is near 22 million worldwide because half of those are people buying their second or third PS2. If it was one per person/household I wonder what the real number would be.

[Shotgun Plasma]

my serial numer (model) is 50001, it seem odds again for me because 50001 is newer model, correst?

[Nights]

Are you guys insane... Only 2 of my systems have broke.

My N64 stopped powering on (I stopped playing it before I realized that happened) and my Dreamcast stopped reading discs (to much play time I guess). I played that Dreamcast like there was no tomorrow. Out of the 20+ games systems I own, only 2 not working isn't a very big number.

[Shotgun Plasma]

You mention DS too....

[brudaman]

NOTE: dont talk about tequmours grammar, u dont want to know why, some of us do.

[Shotgun Plasma]

NOTE: dont talk about tequmours grammar, u dont want to know why, some of us do.


Thanks....you da man!!!

[Nights]

I had 2 defective DS's.

A Defective system and one that stopped working over use are two different things.

[The Dude]

Sony makes shit for hardware. My Vaio was not even a year old and the keys started to fall out. I have been through 4 PS2's. Fuck them, I'm never buying sony agian

[Shotgun Plasma]

4 sony?!?! wow...

[dork]

I wonder if the "smaller, more capable PStwo" is also shit?

[Shotgun Plasma]

Lol dork, i see you got one of my joke qoute...

..about that small new PS2 is called "Sleek PS2" that what many PS2 fanboy called it, there rumor of overheating....

[Flaccid Acid]

This is the way I see it.

Defected from launch- Either fluke in the system or just happends to have something wrong with it.

Breaks down over time- Depending on the number of years it takes, could either be to good craftmanship or bad craftmanship. Everything will stop working eventualy.

Seems like a lot more playstations and such break down over time then gameboys and Nintendo systems.

[DODGE the VIPER]

I've had my PS2 for two years and it still works fine...although I have a feeling you people buy a Song product, smash it around and then complain it breaks easy. :)

[goku2057]

I know. I've had my PS2 for about 3 years, and haven't had a problem with it at all.

[OutlawAdidas]

I had 2 defective DS's.

A Defective system and one that stopped working over use are two different things.


Nights, you preach on about the PSP, whos to say that you didn't just break your DS. Plus, nintendo fixes system with dead pixels without charge. How come we hear about DS defects only from you and no one else, where as we hear more about PSP defects yet you haven't encountered one yet. Interesting.

[Mr. Coww]

Not to change the subject but my Saturn got hit by lightning and still works, the tv it was hooked up too died.Granted it lost stereo from the strike but heck it still works. I killed 3 Dcs in the life time of the system due to over use, in the same reguard ive had freinds have PS2 dies in 1/2 the use my gcs have had- im currently on my 2nd due to some uber weird way to overheat the main board. Its strange that so many users do have systems of this Gen dieing so easy, moving parts are a major issue, but then again Sony does make total crap half the time.Oh well not my issue with a ps2 i never owned one.

[OutlawAdidas]

I work at Gamestop. More people bring in way more defective PS2 than XBOXs, and no one brings in any defective GC. My manager told me that since he has been working there for ten years, he has only gotten back one defective GC.

[Shotgun Plasma]

wow....gamecube is God.

[Generic Wheaties]

Gamecube=Hardware great, software crap.

PS2=Hardware crap, software great

[Shotgun Plasma]

I can't wait for the next nintendo system...it better be good...

[Generic Wheaties]

Get your ass on aim.

[Shotgun Plasma]

I can't, I don't have PS2, I sell it!

[OutlawAdidas]

Gamecube=Hardware great, software crap.

PS2=Hardware crap, software great


thats kinda dumb. Don't generalize stuff.

If you want more 3rd party crap and sports games then go to PS2 or Xbox. If you want more high quality games via 1st party games/2nd party/and nintendo titles then go to the Gamecube.

I've had my Cube since launch, and I haven't had a need for any other game or game system because I invest so much into 1st party games. MP, ED, MP 2, Baten. Very few 3rd party games i've gotten

[Sendok]

the ps2 i had i sold off and it was still peachy, sure im on my 2nd xbox but only because i wanted the ltd halo xbox ;), and my launch cube broke down last summer. stopped spinning the disc :cry:. DS has yet to have issues, better not 2 days old. all my other systems are in great condition, cept the 2600...some slight smoke dammage :(

[Poida]

I'll drug you into the Street Shotgun. Now watch it.

[Ravster]

All my systems are fine expect the SNES which has slight issues but is in working order

[The_Cat]

That also remind me that my dreamcast doesn't work anymore...it won't read discs. I had to get a battery replacement for my Sega Saturn and the N64 stopped powering on.

So moral of the story, don't buy new systems.

I wish all products were more durible.

What on earth do you do to break all of your systems? My Atari, NES, Super NES, N64, and Gamecube never broken down on me. And I still own and use most of those systems to this day.

[Ravster]

Yes, I'm still curious to why Nights systems have most problems

[Viral Mutation]

My N64 still works, my NES has problems turning on, Gamecube is great. PS2, well its okay but it's a new.

[Nights]

Well how many systems do you own... I bet I buy much more systems than you. I also buy more than one of each system as well.

[X2_revolution]

I never had much trust in Sony products and PS2 just made it worse...but PSP looks like it might restore my faith in Sony.

[The Dude]

4 sony?!?! wow...

1st one was fit by a flying controller (all systems sould be able to hold up to at least one)
2nd stopped reading the disk
3rd was used from game stop, did not read disk
4th one is 6 months old and is running ok

[Generic Wheaties]

Dude, just so you know = PS2's are EASY to fix.

[The Dude]

Dude, just so you know = PS2's are EASY to fix.

I opened the first one. But things look too complicated so I kicked it down my driveway

[Generic Wheaties]

Yeah, once you open it, you're 2 seconds away from finishing it.

[OutlawAdidas]

Dude, just so you know = PS2's are EASY to fix.


Thats the thing, no one should have to fix their system. It should be workin nonetheless. If there is a need for you to fix a system then the company screwed up

[HereticPB]

Funny with an xbox you can open it and change the hard drive ahh isn't that cool! Well you need some computer software to unlock the drive, etc. I think my xbox HD is acting up as I type.

To the topic starter I know isn't it crazy my Atari, my Intellivision,and my NES still work. Why can't a Sony game system last?

No :nono:, God is a GameCube! May the cube be with you!

[OutlawAdidas]

You are right Heretic. God is a Gamecube. An indigo god

[DODGE the VIPER]

I work at Gamestop. More people bring in way more defective PS2 than XBOXs, and no one brings in any defective GC. My manager told me that since he has been working there for ten years, he has only gotten back one defective GC.

Um, does it really matter he's been working there for ten years? Also I can bet you most of those PS2s are from release date, which was released quite a while before the gamecube. :)
Also, the gamecube isn't really that strong in graphics capability compared to the other two systems, so you can't really say that it has good hardware. :) However, Nintendo is reliable, and they ONLY make game systems so they can focus on them a lot more. However, of course Nintendo should fix dead pixels on the DS, it's under their warranty. They are obligated to do that if they offer a warranty.

[OnBake Platinum]

Also, the gamecube isn't really that strong in graphics capability compared to the other two systems, so you can't really say that it has good hardware. :)


Um.....what?

[exile]

Also, the gamecube isn't really that strong in graphics capability compared to the other two systems, so you can't really say that it has good hardware. :)

We seriously need to sticky this fact or something, I'll tell you once and only once - The GameCube has better graphics that the PS2 by a long shot..

[Generic Wheaties]

Thats the thing, no one should have to fix their system. It should be workin nonetheless. If there is a need for you to fix a system then the company screwed up

The only reason the PS2 is worth fixing, or buying a new console (god forbid) is because of the games.

[exile]

The only reason the PS2 is worth fixing, or buying a new console (god forbid) is because of the games.

Does the trouble outweigh the quailty of the games? In my opinion, yes.

[HereticPB]

Also, the gamecube isn't really that strong in graphics capability compared to the other two systems, so you can't really say that it has good hardware.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

The only reason the PS2 is worth fixing, or buying a new console (god forbid) is because of the games. Thousands of games with no quality at all except maybe 4 of them?

[Hisham]

^Have you ever played ALL of the games on the ps2. No, okay then, don't comment on games you haven't played... Your just probably to ignorant to realize that games are good on the PS2. You just have your head stuck up your ass to far. And BTW, I don't even have a PS2. I only have a gamecube and Dreamcast. So if you call me a fanboy, you are sadly mistaken. I just hate ignorant people, who comment on systems and games that they haven't played much.

[Shotgun Plasma]

funny, I have dreamcast but it isn't mine, it belong to my wife because she love sonic adventure (She love sonic since she was little, she a sonic junky) Dreamcast is 5 year old and still work like a charm..if only I beg her to play it...

[Phoenix]

Back on topic, my PS2's screen fades in and out from a solid dark red. It started with just DVD's and now it does it with games. It also scratched my old SSX disc when I hit it slightly, and the game now freezes. My friend's PS2 randomly starts humming and mutes, and he has to hit it to make is start working again.

Oh, and this topic reminds me of this comic (http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=20). Different company, same story.

[Crisis Core]

I've bought Sony, and have yet to be disappointed by them. I will continue to purchase Sony products, because they appeal to me.

[Generic Wheaties]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Thousands of games with no quality at all except maybe 4 of them?


Are you talking about the gamecube? Or the Xbox? PS2 has the biggest library of hits out there. Not opinion, fact. And the trouble, what trouble? It takes two seconds. Do it before you knock it.

[orcus116]

Actually dude he's right. I've had a PS2 for about two years now and my library is a whooping 5 games. I might add some MGS games to that soon but not sure yet. On the other hand I have like 20+ GC games. While PS2 has the biggest selection it's not that great of a selection.

[OutlawAdidas]

Um, does it really matter he's been working there for ten years? Also I can bet you most of those PS2s are from release date, which was released quite a while before the gamecube. :)
Also, the gamecube isn't really that strong in graphics capability compared to the other two systems, so you can't really say that it has good hardware. :) However, Nintendo is reliable, and they ONLY make game systems so they can focus on them a lot more. However, of course Nintendo should fix dead pixels on the DS, it's under their warranty. They are obligated to do that if they offer a warranty.


That has to be the stupidest thing that you've probably ever said. Don't make me pull up RE 4, MP2, Mario Tennis, Geist, Jungle Beat, RE 0, RE remake, Baten Kaitos, WW. Your dumb for sayin that shit. I mean, both Xbox and GC came out a year after and both exceed the PS2 in everything....except sales

[OutlawAdidas]

Um, does it really matter he's been working there for ten years? Also I can bet you most of those PS2s are from release date, which was released quite a while before the gamecube. :)
Also, the gamecube isn't really that strong in graphics capability compared to the other two systems, so you can't really say that it has good hardware. :) However, Nintendo is reliable, and they ONLY make game systems so they can focus on them a lot more. However, of course Nintendo should fix dead pixels on the DS, it's under their warranty. They are obligated to do that if they offer a warranty.



Yea I was gonna edit that but that was to state that he has been there since the launch of the PS2, GC, and Xbox, and through out his entire time there, since launch, he has only gonna one defective GC

[DODGE the VIPER]

Uh, GT4, GT3, GTA San Andreas, GT Concept, these games all are above the Gamecube's capabilities in my eyes. And that's only a fraction of all the quality games on the PS2 that show the true power of it. I'm not bashing Nintendo though (I have a Gamecube, and they do have good games), I just think they could've had a real advantage over the other two systems being released the latest of the three.

[OutlawAdidas]

GT SA graphics are boring. They hardly put any work into it. I will give you GT4. But other than that your arguement fails. both MP use the cubes power to the max and far surpass the PS2 graphics. Alos, I forgot one, Rogue Squadron 2 and 3. Oh yea and Eternal Darkness

[Generic Wheaties]

Eternal Darkness? That game looks like crap. MGS 3 pumps out much better graphics than that and MGS TTS. And outlaw, just incase nobody told you, GRAPHICS DON'T MATTER.

[OutlawAdidas]

Eternal Darkness? That game looks like crap. MGS 3 pumps out much better graphics than that and MGS TTS. And outlaw, just incase nobody told you, GRAPHICS DON'T MATTER.


ED was awesome. Ofcourse graphics doesn't make a game. So right there in your statement, you've contradicted yourself. Don't be a dumbass. Also, we are talkin about two different Metal Gears. One in a high tech facility and one in the jungle. If I had to pick, I'd still say that Twin Snakes had better graphics. Oh ye ait did. Oh just in case nobody told you Generic Wheaties, GRAPHICS DON'T MATTER, Its all about gameplay

[Generic Wheaties]

ED was awesome. Ofcourse graphics doesn't make a game. So right there in your statement, you've contradicted yourself. Don't be a dumbass. Also, we are talkin about two different Metal Gears. One in a high tech facility and one in the jungle. If I had to pick, I'd still say that Twin Snakes had better graphics. Oh ye ait did. Oh just in case nobody told you Generic Wheaties, GRAPHICS DON'T MATTER, Its all about gameplay

I didn't contradict myself, I was merely correcting you with my opinion.

[Shotgun Plasma]

Wait a min...Eternal darkess crap?! It's one of the rarest greatest game ever made, the story is awesome, monster are creepy, the music is well-found, and the graphic are good (crap graphic?! YOU NEED A EYE CHECK!!!)

Anyone who said Eternal darkness is crap should be drug out into the street and shot!

[Phoenix]

Stop passing opinions off as facts. Both of you.

Anyway, my cousins got one of the mini PS2's for Christmas, and it froze twice. Brand new.

[Shotgun Plasma]

I heard the mini PS2 overheat very fast, since it doesn't have a fan.

[Jon]

Stop passing opinions off as facts. Both of you.

Anyway, my cousins got one of the mini PS2's for Christmas, and it froze twice. Brand new.

Shut the fuck up. You are a newbie. You have like 17 posts so stop trying to act in charge and shit.

Anyways, ED is a good game and all but the graphics aren't THAT great. MP looks pretty good though, oh and San Andreas isn't all that good graphics.

[orcus116]

GT SA graphics are boring. They hardly put any work into it.

Ok normally I agree with you but you fanboyism has gone too far. While GTA isn't the prettiest game on the market the amount of work they put into the graphics alone to make the game run at a decent framerate is astounding. Character models AND car models have 2x as many polygons as GTA3, thousands of building and ground textures, not to mention the process of actually building these monster buildings and all of the vehicles.

See a game like MP2, which you seem to have used as your example, which not only has a smaller world that GTA but you're in corridors or outside a brief moments but there isn't that big an area to load and run, so graphics can be amazing and still run very well. Meanwhile GTA is loading large blocks of the city or desert or whatever but needs as good as graphics as they can run in order to run the game at a solid 60 FPS while still having the best possible graphics.

So in as simple terms as I can get, saying they put no time into the graphics is the stupidest possible thing to say regarding this matter.

[Ravster]

When you say 'graphics dont matter', are you being serious? coz would you play a game with awesome gameplay but graphics like games from the NES era? I wouldn't. Yes, gameplay is important, but you do need graphics as well to make it a good game.

[Phoenix]

Shut the fuck up. You are a newbie. You have like 17 posts so stop trying to act in charge and shit.
Just because someone doesn't have many posts on one forum doesn't mean they're all of a sudden wrong. More posts don't mean you're in charge. On most forums, the admin has fewer posts than many of the members. Does that make those members in charge of the admins? No. Posts don't matter.

[Travis]

MGS3 has the best graphics of any game I've seen in quite some time. It's pretty impressive when you can tell which direction your enemies are shooting you from by watching the individual leaves of grass move when they are hit by gunfire.

[Shotgun Plasma]

Just because someone doesn't have many posts on one forum doesn't mean they're all of a sudden wrong. More posts don't mean you're in charge. On most forums, the admin has fewer posts than many of the members. Does that make those members in charge of the admins? No. Posts don't matter.


Wrong....The more you post, the more they know you. The first time I posted long time ago in Nfire, I was known as Shotgun Plasma (HINT HINT, i might bring my name back if you force and rape Viper!!!! HAHAHAHHAHA.........) ahem......excuse me.

they start making fun of me because I am suck at grammar and they thought I am 11 year old muslim or mexican or something because i fuck and rape my grammar pretty bad, later on, they all love my comedy shit...They want me back for more so i raped them all one by one...


...gee, there are 5 word "rape" in here...I am nasty shit..

[OutlawAdidas]

Ok normally I agree with you but you fanboyism has gone too far. While GTA isn't the prettiest game on the market the amount of work they put into the graphics alone to make the game run at a decent framerate is astounding. Character models AND car models have 2x as many polygons as GTA3, thousands of building and ground textures, not to mention the process of actually building these monster buildings and all of the vehicles.

See a game like MP2, which you seem to have used as your example, which not only has a smaller world that GTA but you're in corridors or outside a brief moments but there isn't that big an area to load and run, so graphics can be amazing and still run very well. Meanwhile GTA is loading large blocks of the city or desert or whatever but needs as good as graphics as they can run in order to run the game at a solid 60 FPS while still having the best possible graphics.

So in as simple terms as I can get, saying they put no time into the graphics is the stupidest possible thing to say regarding this matter.



Both MP1/2 and GTA SA both process graphics in game while your playing the game, but its how the developer uses the hardware, but maybe I used the wrong example. Lets do this, SA and Spiderman 2. Look at how the developers mapped out the entire NY area. Beautiful graphics to boot. They knew how to work the hardware. But to me, SA just looks so bland. So wat if they put more polygons into the cars. Good developers can do that with even less polygons at their disposal. Also, making a game work at 60fps, well i won't even go there.

[Colin™]

When you say 'graphics dont matter', are you being serious? coz would you play a game with awesome gameplay but graphics like games from the NES era? I wouldn't. Yes, gameplay is important, but you do need graphics as well to make it a good game.


Until you have played Earthbound, you have no room to talk.

[Dark-Kaomi]

I agree on the comments thing. It doesn't matter how many you have for your opinion to matter but people still take others with more comments more seriously than those that hardly post or just started posting. Graphics are not the most important part to a game but they are an important part none the less. I agree with Sony making horrible hardware. I have a friend who is a huge Sony fanatic, his dad used to work for them, and he even agrees that Sony hardware sucks and to not buy anything made by them. I've had my GCN for years now and the only problem I've had is the open button needs to be pressed harder to be opened because of constant use. Just to verify the obvious since everyone seems to have forgotten, everyone's opinion is valid and matters. What they say you may not agree with but it does give you another way to look at things. In short, every console has it's good and bad things, everything dies after a certain number of years, we just hope that it's many years before that happens, and finally great games are based around many factors to being great, including graphics, and game play.

[MagicJuggler]

I wonder if we'll ever get a sequel to Earthbound (rather than just a GBA remake). Jeff owned his opponents once he got his hands on the Heavy Bazooka (group of enemies) and Multi-Bottle Rockets. Me, when I had to battle Nightmare Ness, I carried a Snake Bag so I could poison him.

What is it with graphics anyway? Why the need to have anti-aliased breasts on the prostitutes you'll kill anyway? What ever happened to the good days of text gaming, when you had a textual description ("and then, the prostitute slowly embraces you. Glad you payed extra, she engages in....") and had to imagine things going on? What happened to the days of Ultima I and Rogue, where everything was represented on a map of ASCII characters?

I'm ranting again.