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Cardinal Optimist
11-21-2004, 04:21 PM
I'm pumped. I actually get to watch it and i'm not at a baseball game. I can feel the victory. We have Shawn king starting for us this week. and were playing one of the worst teams.

Magus Relmyn
11-21-2004, 04:28 PM
If you lost both your RBs, your top receiver, and three of your best defensive players, you'd be pretty bad too. The Panthers are under the "Atlanta Falcons 1999 syndrome", as they got to the Super Bowl the previous year then got hit hard by injuries.

Cardinal Optimist
11-21-2004, 04:32 PM
If you lost both your RBs, your top receiver, and three of your best defensive players, you'd be pretty bad too. The Panthers are under the "Atlanta Falcons 1999 syndrome", as they got to the Super Bowl the previous year then got hit hard by injuries.
Too bad for them.

dachamps
11-21-2004, 04:36 PM
Cardinals are going 2 the playoffs i told you all Before the season that they were (i'm a cowboys fan)you all doubted them and now they are proving there serious contenders. *banana*

Cardinal Optimist
11-21-2004, 06:54 PM
Nobody mention this first quarter...ever

BigJabber
11-21-2004, 07:04 PM
The Injuries have indeed hit the Panther hard, even moreso then the 1999 Falcons. However, good teams over come injuries, and Carolina is showing just how much of a fluke last season was.

doublee
11-21-2004, 07:33 PM
The Injuries have indeed hit the Panther hard, even moreso then the 1999 Falcons. However, good teams over come injuries, and Carolina is showing just how much of a fluke last season was.

Come on now if you took Bettis, Staley, Burress, Hampton, and two O-linemen from the Steelers you don't actually think they would be 7-1 do you?

Or, how about if we took Dillon, Faulk, Brown, and Seymour away from the Pats would they be any good?

Yeah good teams overcome injuries, but not injuries that sap your team of its top talent for the bulk of the season. No team in the league has enough depth to overcome the injuries the Panthers have had this season.

Cardinal Optimist
11-21-2004, 07:36 PM
100 Penalty yards with time left in the 2nd quarter.

BigJabber
11-21-2004, 07:47 PM
Come on now if you took Bettis, Staley, Burress, Hampton, and two O-linemen from the Steelers you don't actually think they would be 7-1 do you?

Or, how about if we took Dillon, Faulk, Brown, and Seymour away from the Pats would they be any good?

Yeah good teams overcome injuries, but not injuries that sap your team of its top talent for the bulk of the season. No team in the league has enough depth to overcome the injuries the Panthers have had this season.


Actually the Pats have been hurt. Troy Brown was out for a long long time, Branch has only played a few games, Law hasn't played for the past 2 weeks, Dillion didn't play a game, our Defense Backs are all hurt, forcing the Pats to play a WR there. Yet, we are 8-1...

hmsballer42
11-21-2004, 07:54 PM
you know what I agree with bigjabber in that good teams do overcome injuries unfortunatly my boys (titans) didnt do that last week when they lost air mcnair

hmsballer42
11-21-2004, 07:56 PM
afterall pats did overcome injuries

doublee
11-21-2004, 08:00 PM
Yeah, those are only a few weeks though. Stephen Davis has played only two games this season and is out for the year. DeShaun Foster played four games and is out for the year. Steve Smith played one game and is out for the year. Kris Jenkins, arguably the best DT in the game, has played three games and is out for the year. These are three Pro Bowl caliber players and a top backup who have already missed over half of this year's games and will end up missing over 75% of them when the season is over.

The Pats guys missed a couple of games here or there for the most part. They have not had to IR any of their key players the way the Panthers have.

BigJabber
11-21-2004, 08:05 PM
Understood, but you dont think that the Carolina Panther, with the defense alone(Jenkins wont prevent them from being the defense they was the past few season) Couldn't pull off more wins? look at Jacksonville, no offense, great defense and they have a 6-3 record. The Panther are simular in the fact that they have no offense, but a great defense. I'd like to think the Defense could have won more game like they did all last season for them.

hmsballer42
11-21-2004, 08:08 PM
thats it no disrespect but it wouldnt matter who was healthy the panthers would have lost

NomarFan5
11-21-2004, 08:13 PM
whats the score of the game? obviously not good cuz jordan is getting pissy lol.

hmsballer42
11-21-2004, 08:20 PM
i realy change that now that i see the score they are with out qustion a great team who can overcome injuries

Cardinal Optimist
11-21-2004, 08:55 PM
Comin back..We've got momentum. 10-28

twins15
11-21-2004, 09:24 PM
Cardinals are going 2 the playoffs i told you all Before the season that they were (i'm a cowboys fan)you all doubted them and now they are proving there serious contenders. *banana*

good call.

Magus Relmyn
11-21-2004, 09:34 PM
Shaun King is the answer. Can't even get a handoff right.

allsportidiot
11-21-2004, 09:44 PM
I dont think the Cards can be called "contenders" yet. Really they are in the luck of the draw. In the weakest division in the NFL, also a part of the falling NFC. If they do happen to make it to the playoffs this season, from the terrible division, I do think they are a one and out team. Unsteady at the QB position, once King gets more comfortable things will get better but that may take a little while. I must admit the two pluses of this team has been its defense and the recieving core. Should be interesting down the road, but they need to do better against those teams they are supposed to beat, aka San Fran or Carolina.

gold8_leader
11-21-2004, 10:42 PM
PANTHERS WON: 35-28. Good teams can overcome injuries. The panthers have 12 players on the IR including 3 players that contributed about 75% of offense last year.

BigJabber
11-21-2004, 10:51 PM
Good win for them. Wish em the best of luck from here on out.

doublee
11-21-2004, 11:36 PM
PANTHERS WON: 35-28. Good teams can overcome injuries. The panthers have 12 players on the IR including 3 players that contributed about 75% of offense last year.

Which game were you watching? The Panthers won 35-10.

doublee
11-21-2004, 11:43 PM
Understood, but you dont think that the Carolina Panther, with the defense alone(Jenkins wont prevent them from being the defense they was the past few season) Couldn't pull off more wins? look at Jacksonville, no offense, great defense and they have a 6-3 record. The Panther are simular in the fact that they have no offense, but a great defense. I'd like to think the Defense could have won more game like they did all last season for them.

Here is the thing about the defense though while Jenkins is the only big name IR'd on the defense they have had to IR five reserves so they don't have the same quality depth on defense that they had last season. That coupled with guys like Fields, Morgan, and Buckner missing games with nagging injuries and the defense is not quite as up to snuff this season as it was last season.