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Magus Relmyn
12-12-2004, 07:38 PM
Pavano to N.Y.; Burnett next?

The Marlins and Yankees are in discussions for a Burnett-Vazquez deal.

Sunday, December 12, 2004

ANAHEIM, Calif. — Carl Pavano is heading to New York next year, and he might be taking one of his Marlins teammates with him.

The New York Yankees, who are finalizing a four-year contract that will pay the 28-year-old Pavano about $39 million, spent parts of Friday and Saturday talking to the Marlins about a trade that would add A.J. Burnett to New York's rotation.

The Marlins would get right-hander Javier Vazquez, according to two major-league sources with knowledge of the talks.

"That would be pretty cool," Burnett said before cracking a joke about Yankees owner George Steinbrenner's clean dress codes. "I don't know if I could shave my goatee."

After being informed that Pavano wanted to go to New York, the Yankees asked the Marlins if they would be interested in Vazquez. The Yankees indicated they would be interested in Burnett, who is Pavano's best friend. The Marlins were intrigued, knowing they could potentially save money because Burnett will become a free agent in 2006.

A source close to Pavano, who won 18 games for the Marlins last year, said the right-hander would lobby Yankees officials to pursue Burnett.

The Marlins want the Yankees to pick up at least $10.5 million of the $34.5 million remaining on the four-year, $45 million contract that Vazquez signed last off-season. The Marlins had offered Pavano a three-year, $21 million deal and would use that money for Vazquez.

The Marlins also want the Yankees to throw in one or two other players. Two possibilities are left-handed starter Brad Halsey and right-handed reliever Felix Rodriguez.

Coupled with the departure of Pavano, such a trade would drastically change the Marlins' rotation next year. The Marlins signed left-hander Al Leiter last week to add a veteran presence for Burnett, right-hander Josh Beckett and left-hander Dontrelle Willis. The Marlins also are interested in left-hander Odalis Perez.

Vazquez, 28, went 14-10 with a 4.91 ERA in 2004 after spending six seasons in Montreal. He is 78-78 with a 4.26 ERA in his career.

Pavano's choice of the Yankees ends a courtship that began in West Palm Beach in early November, when he had dinner with Yankees manager Joe Torre at E.R. Bradley's Saloon.

Even after Pavano told his agent, Scott Shapiro, on Saturday morning to focus on the Yankees, Detroit and Baltimore reached out.

But Pavano, who did not return a phone call, apparently has made up his mind.

"Number one, he wants to win," Shapiro said. "Carl's going to be the king of New York."

Shapiro said both sides were working out details and that the deal likely would be announced early next week.

Marlins General Manager Larry Beinfest said late Saturday he hadn't been informed of Pavano's decision.

"We were hoping to have Carl in the rotation with Al Leiter," he said. "If that's not the case, we'll pursue other options."

Pavano decided Friday morning that he was leaning toward the Seattle Mariners before the Yankees got involved again. Burnett has been in touch with him on a daily basis and thought he was headed to Boston.

"The Red Sox are an incredible organization," Shapiro said. "It's been a real difficult decision for him."

If this is true, the Yankees are doing a good job getting some young talent in their staff. They could really use A.J. too, but like it says in the thread title, this is only a rumour. Stay tuned.

NomarFan5
12-12-2004, 09:53 PM
Why would Florida do something stupid like that. Trade Burnett and whatnot for Vazquez. Id take Burnett over Vazques anyday of the week.

yankeesfan26
12-12-2004, 09:54 PM
Id take Burnett over Vazques anyday of the week.
Me too. That's the main reason why this sounds like a good trade to me.

NomarFan5
12-12-2004, 09:58 PM
Too bad I dont think Marlins have enough cap space to hold Vazquez insane contract lol. That would be sooo stupid for the Marlins to do.

DONtheGREAT23
12-12-2004, 10:03 PM
cap space?? there is no cap in baseball

NomarFan5
12-12-2004, 10:15 PM
for the yankees no.. but teams have their spending limits and his huge contract will probably push the fish's limits.

Arsenal
12-12-2004, 10:29 PM
NOO! I will be so mad if they get rid of Halsey and Felix..

yankeesfan26
12-12-2004, 11:12 PM
NOO! I will be so mad if they get rid of Halsey and Felix..
Screw them. We need good starting pitchers and if this is the only way to do it, then it needs to be done. We will still have a very strong bullpen without them. If the starters can get through 7 innings, then the game should be over with Falsh and Mo coming in to shut the door.

Arsenal
12-12-2004, 11:39 PM
Well I wouldn't mind losing Halsey that much but we just got K-Rod.

Scott Proctor
12-13-2004, 12:14 AM
Well I wouldn't mind losing Halsey that much but we just got K-Rod.K-Rod is Francisco Rodriguez, the yankees got felix rodriguez

NomarFan5
12-13-2004, 12:38 AM
Both of them suck anyways.. Halsey boo.. Fe Rod cant find the plate 90 percent of the time.. and you cant count on just Flash and Mo to get your job done.. proved in the playoffs.

yankeesfan26
12-13-2004, 12:52 AM
Both of them suck anyways.. Halsey boo.. Fe Rod cant find the plate 90 percent of the time.. and you cant count on just Flash and Mo to get your job done.. proved in the playoffs.
If it wasn't for that damn fast guy(Goodwin I think is his name,) everything would have been fine. Also, a little starting pitching would have been nice. It wasn't all the bullpen's fault.

DONtheGREAT23
12-13-2004, 12:55 AM
If it wasn't for that damn fast guy(Goodwin I think is his name,) everything would have been fine. Also, a little starting pitching would have been nice. It wasn't all the bullpen's fault.
it was dave roberts. and you cant say its because of him. thats like saying bill buckner blew the whole series for the sox. roberts stealing one base didnt make the yankees lose. the yankees completely choking made them lose.

yankeesfan26
12-13-2004, 01:08 AM
it was dave roberts. and you cant say its because of him. thats like saying bill buckner blew the whole series for the sox. roberts stealing one base didnt make the yankees lose. the yankees completely choking made them lose.
He pinch ran and stole second in two games for them and then score on hits to the outfield. That is a mjor reason why they won. It was not all his fault, but he played a huge role in their team coming back and winning.

NomarFan5
12-13-2004, 01:16 AM
Not really. He kept us alive in the 4th game.. Ortiz is pretty much the main reason we stayed in the whole time. Ortiz is a beast. And you MUST respect Schilling for doing what he did to win, I respect him so much.

Arsenal
12-13-2004, 01:17 AM
K-Rod is Francisco Rodriguez, the yankees got felix rodriguez
Oh thanks, I knew it was something with an F and Rodriguez, didn't know there were so many. I know KRod is good, how about Felix? *banana*

thechadman2
12-13-2004, 02:37 AM
I like Vazquez. He was off last year though. Yanks need a LHP in that rotation.

NomarFan5
12-13-2004, 02:46 AM
I know KRod is good, how about Felix? *banana*

hes sad. he has almost no control.. he can just throw kinda hard.. if i had another 10 mph on my fastball i could throw as hard as him and im 16. i can throw about 82 on average.. hopefully i can get up around 90 in the next couple years.

Scott Proctor
12-13-2004, 02:48 AM
hes sad. he has almost no control.. he can just throw kinda hard.. if i had another 10 mph on my fastball i could throw as hard as him and im 16. i can throw about 82 on average.. hopefully i can get up around 90 in the next couple years.i noticed you enjoy putting down every player the yankees have or acquire, have you ever actually recognized a player for how good he is even though he is a yankee?

Arsenal
12-13-2004, 02:58 AM
lol nice...Ok, so now for a non-biased opinion, how is he?

NomarFan5
12-13-2004, 02:59 AM
yeah.. like arod, do you not see me talking about how much better he is then jeter at ss and everything else.. i recognize bernie williams is a great hitter, matsui although i hate him is also a great hitter.. sheffield is steroids so he doesnt count nor does giambi.. posada cant hit good but hes a force behind the plate.. but i mean.. felix rodriguez get real hes about as good at control as felix heredia. get off my back dude.

X-Factor
12-13-2004, 03:00 AM
The only yankees ill recognize as being worth a shit are Rivera, Posada and B. Williams.

Can't stand any otehrs

NomarFan5
12-13-2004, 03:02 AM
Rivera also.. i know hes the most dominating closer in years.. but i dont have to say i like him or the yankees to recognize that.

lawrencefrank
12-13-2004, 03:07 AM
Yea really i dont go around saying david ortiz is terrible cause i know hes greats. I respect the sox unlike how you dont do to the yanks

NomarFan5
12-13-2004, 03:08 AM
I dont.. yeah alright.. just because I dont say it doesnt mean I dont. And if you read what i just said about a few of the players I respect then youd know.

Arsenal
12-13-2004, 03:09 AM
This is turning into flaming...so lets just stop..

NomarFan5
12-13-2004, 03:11 AM
Heres the end note then.. I respect your little yankee players as much as anyone baseball player out there. I know they are good.. but its hilarious to see their fans get angered when other people especially sox fans get on them. so HAHAHAHA. fin.

Magus Relmyn
12-13-2004, 03:49 AM
Hm, this thread is only leading to more trouble. Therefore, it will be closed. :)