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NomarFan5
12-30-2004, 12:04 AM
EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- Two-time MVP quarterback Kurt Warner plans to leave the New York Giants after this season rather than remain a backup to Eli Manning.

"I am not going to be content being a backup, that's just the bottom line," Warner said Wednesday. "I loved my year here, but I am not content being a backup. I think I showed people and did things here and won games and that I have proven I can play and start in this league."

Warner, 33, said the Giants know how he feels.

"I think that everybody's thought process right now is I want to be somewhere starting next year, and they know it's not here with the New York Giants," said Warner, the one-time Arena League player who led the St. Louis Rams to two Super Bowl appearances, including a championship after the 1999 season.

While Warner signed a two-year contract with the team in June, he has met the criteria necessary to void the final year of the deal.

Giants general manager Ernie Accorsi refused to comment on Warner's contract status.

Warner, who beat out Manning for the starting job in training camp, led the Giants to a 5-2 start. He was replaced by the No. 1 pick overall in the NFL draft after losses to Chicago and Arizona and the team has failed to win a game with Manning at quarterback.

Warner came to New York as somewhat of a question mark. He suffered a concussion in a season-opening loss to the Giants in 2003 and lost his starting job to Marc Bulger.

The Rams gave Bulger a long-term contract and released Warner on June 1. The Giants signed him the following day to be a caretaker until Manning was ready.

Warner, who had been bothered by injuries in recent years, completed 174-of-277 passes for 2,054 yards, six touchdowns and four interceptions. He had a respectable 86.5 passer rating.

"My whole goal was to show people I could throw the football, I could lead and I could win," Warner said. "I think I showed people I could do that. Coming in, nobody had any expectations for this football team and to be a leader of a team that was 5-2 and had the second best record in the NFC, I'm happy with that."

Warner also showed he could be a team player.

After Manning was given the starting job, Warner never once complained. He constantly offered Manning advice and was the biggest cheerleader on the sidelines.

Since being replaced as a starter, Warner has appeared only in a a mop-up role against Baltimore. He immediately led the Giants on a touchdown drive.

Warner said he hasn't concentrated on which teams need a starting quarterback next season, but he mentioned Dallas, Chicago and Miami as possibilities.

Warner said he feels for Manning, who is now winless in six starts heading into the season finale at Giants Stadium against the Dallas Cowboys (6-9) on Sunday night.

"You see his play continually improving week-in, week-out, and you know he is at the point where he just wants to get a victory," Warner said. "He just wants something to go in our favor, for us to make that one play that will make the difference in a game and get win and build off that."

Secret Asian Man
12-30-2004, 12:50 AM
Yes! Chicago. But he'll be a backup there too when Rex Grossman comes back

AO street ballin
12-30-2004, 01:26 AM
He can come to Cleveland. He won't be a backup.

allsportidiot
12-30-2004, 01:51 AM
If I would take a guess where Warner is going two teams come to mind. Miami and Arizona. Miami, Feely is not a bad QB but I highly doubt they will stick with him, they have a good recieving core around him so things could look good with Warner there. As for Arizona, too much QB switching going on, I think Green would be happy with Warner. This team could be very dangerous with Warner and a better RB, probably the best team in the NFC West.

Jeff
12-30-2004, 02:05 AM
Miami and Arizona.
*nod*

Exactly what I was thinking.

AO street ballin
12-30-2004, 02:07 AM
Cleveland. I'm tellin you, Cleveland would be so much better.

Jeff
12-30-2004, 02:11 AM
Cleveland. I'm tellin you, Cleveland would be so much better.
In Arizona, he's got some pretty good weapons in Boldin and Fitzgerald.

twins15
12-30-2004, 03:26 AM
Why is anyone going to pay for a 33 year old guy that doesn't get rid of the ball so he gets sacked a bunch, is not mobile, and hasn't been very good for about 3 years, and to top it off he will whine if he doesn't start?

Jeff
12-30-2004, 10:57 AM
He will whine if he doesn't start?
That's why Arizona's a good place for him.

AO street ballin
12-30-2004, 05:07 PM
That's why Arizona's a good place for him.

I still say Cleveland's better. Plus we semi have a defense and a run game.

hehateme71
12-30-2004, 06:07 PM
I think that cleveland is a better place for him. I mean the cardinals would probably just bench him after he lost two games, but the browns would probably keep him around. I really dont think warner would be too happy playing in AZ

allsportidiot
12-30-2004, 06:44 PM
The thing about Arizona is they could really use him. They already have an outstanding recieving core, Fitzgerald reminds me of Randy Moss, Boldin is a star, and even Bryant Johnson is a very nice target. They have a defense. They could be a very good team with a QB like Warner.

Marshall
12-31-2004, 04:34 AM
Kurt Warner isn't a bad Quarterback. I think he has a good 2 or 3 years left in him. He just needs to be in the right system. He isn't a very mobile QB and NYG's Pass Blocking is horrible. He didn't have enough time to throw the ball. But for NYG it doesn't matter who the QB is as long as you have Tiki Barber at RB.

LudacrisFan
12-31-2004, 05:14 AM
HAHAHA... he wants to be a starter.. .he doesnt even belong to be on a team... hahahaha... WASHED UP!

Marshall
01-01-2005, 12:14 AM
HAHAHA... he wants to be a starter.. .he doesnt even belong to be on a team... hahahaha... WASHED UP!


How many superbowl rings do you have? Im all for cracking on some players in the league. But you must remember, they must be worthy of being in the league. Because they didn't just get there for shits and giggles.

paranoidmoonduck
01-01-2005, 12:44 AM
Fitzgerald reminds me of Randy Moss.

How is that possible?

Marshall
01-01-2005, 12:48 AM
How is that possible?

Exactly. Until Larry Fitz learns to take plays off he can't touch Moss.

twins15
01-01-2005, 10:03 AM
Exactly. Until Larry Fitz learns to take plays off he can't touch Moss.

Totally!

Signed,
3 years ago

Seriously, if the worst thing you can say about him pertains to something he said like three years ago, it just reaffirms my belief that he is the most dangerous skill player in the NFL.

Marshall
01-01-2005, 07:05 PM
Well obviously he took a play off against Chicago last year. Charles Tillman took advantage of him like a drunk girl in a short skirt.

twins15
01-02-2005, 08:26 AM
Well obviously he took a play off against Chicago last year. Charles Tillman took advantage of him like a drunk girl in a short skirt.

Charles Tillman made a great play, Randy Moss didn't. He is human, he does occassionally make a mistake. Doesn't mean he "took the play off."

AO street ballin
01-02-2005, 08:42 AM
Randy's amazin and owns anyone 1 on 1, 2 on 1, 3 on 1 even. It doesn't matter because he jump 2 feet higher than everyone else basically.

Back to Warner, Cleveland is great for him. Good recievers (Bryant, Davis, Northcutt, and (if they are actually smart this year) Braylon Edwards) Lee Suggs and William Green at RB, and a good enough defense.

Marshall
01-02-2005, 05:31 PM
Randy's amazin and owns anyone 1 on 1, 2 on 1, 3 on 1 even. It doesn't matter because he jump 2 feet higher than everyone else basically.


Explain this.

Randy Moss : 6'5''
Charles Tillman : 6'1''

http://www.projo.com/sharedcontent/east/nfl/15/slideshow/744/images/3.jpg

Toss-up ball between Moss and Tillman last year. Perfect pass hits Moss in the hands but somehow Tillman comes up with the ball. Coincedance? I think not. Moss is a great WR. But get off his jock. He has room for fault.

twins15
01-02-2005, 11:15 PM
Explain this.

Randy Moss : 6'5''
Charles Tillman : 6'1''

http://www.projo.com/sharedcontent/east/nfl/15/slideshow/744/images/3.jpg

Toss-up ball between Moss and Tillman last year. Perfect pass hits Moss in the hands but somehow Tillman comes up with the ball. Coincedance? I think not. Moss is a great WR. But get off his jock. He has room for fault.

Ok, Tillman made a good play, Moss didn't.

"Coincedance? I think not." What the heck does that mean? Why would it be coincedental that Tillman made a good play? I'm not following your logic? ??? No one ever said Moss was without fault.

LudacrisFan
01-05-2005, 03:04 PM
How many superbowl rings do you have? Im all for cracking on some players in the league. But you must remember, they must be worthy of being in the league. Because they didn't just get there for shits and giggles.
um... wtf does that mean?

Magus Relmyn
01-06-2005, 05:58 AM
Explain this.

Randy Moss : 6'5''
Charles Tillman : 6'1''

http://www.projo.com/sharedcontent/east/nfl/15/slideshow/744/images/3.jpg

Toss-up ball between Moss and Tillman last year. Perfect pass hits Moss in the hands but somehow Tillman comes up with the ball. Coincedance? I think not. Moss is a great WR. But get off his jock. He has room for fault.

But when it comes down to it, who would you rather take?

Cardinal Optimist
01-06-2005, 02:57 PM
*nod*

Exactly what I was thinking.
I really don't want him. He's just a product of the system. I'd rather take Brad Johnson.