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NomarFan5
01-10-2005, 11:22 PM
Peyton deserves this and you cant in any possible way say he doesnt. He had an almost unimagineable season. Well deserved, and well done Peyton.


INDIANAPOLIS -- When Peyton Manning sees his name alongside some of the great players in NFL history, he beams with pride.

Manning gets congratulated by Tony Dungy last month after setting the season TD record.

Manning's phenomenal season earned him his second straight Associated Press NFL Most Valuable Player Award -- and he came within one vote of being a unanimous choice. He joined the likes of Joe Montana, John Unitas, Steve Young and Kurt Warner as quarterbacks with two MVP awards. Brett Favre is the only player to win it three times.

"I've thought of myself as something of a (football) historian and someone who appreciates those names," Manning said Monday. "Just being with those names makes it more special and I am very humbled to be on that list."

The Indianapolis Colts star, who surpassed Dan Marino and Young with his passing prowess in 2004, earned all but one of 48 votes from a national panel of sports writers and broadcasters. Manning tied with Steve McNair for the award last season, but this time only Atlanta quarterback Michael Vick drew a vote.

Ever the team man, and ever championship-oriented, Manning refuses to concentrate on his statistics. He threw for 49 touchdowns, surpassing Marino's 20-year-old NFL record. He shattered Young's passer rating record with a 121.1 mark. And he established other league marks and a lot more team records.

But to Manning, unless it all culminates in a championship, it's not what he's after.

"What I accomplished is something special team-wise," he said. "Obviously it helps that the team is winning games, and good things come along with that."

Such good things as leading the Colts to a 12-4 regular-season record and the AFC South title. They routed Denver 49-24 in the first round of the playoffs -- the MVP voting was held before the postseason -- and play at New England on Sunday.

He also turned two of his previously unaccomplished receivers, Reggie Wayne and Brandon Stokley, into threats almost on a par with Manning's favorite target, perennial Pro Bowler Marvin Harrison. All caught at least 10 touchdown passes and went over 1,000 yards in receiving -- an unprecedented combination for three teammates.

"If you told me we'd have 49 touchdown passes and break Dan Marino's record, I'd have been the last person to tell you that," Manning said. "It's been a fun ride."

It sure has -- one of the most fun in NFL history.

"When I came here three years ago, my reputation preceded me," said Colts coach Tony Dungy, considered a defensive mentor while at Tampa Bay. "There was the thought we'd win games 10-6. I'd like to thank him for making us an offensive team."

Manning tends to make everything look easy. Sort of like Young, Montana, Unitas, Warner and Favre did. But all of them have that championship along with their MVPs. Manning doesn't.

And it drives him to do even more.

"I try to do my job and help my team win games," he said. "That's what it's been about for us all along."

Manning is the first Indianapolis player to win MVP. When the Colts were in Baltimore, the award was won by Unitas (1964 and '67), Gino Marchetti (1958), Earl Morrall (1968) and Bert Jones (1976).

"It's difficult to pick one player out of the league and determine who is the most valuable," Dungy said. "Peyton sets the tempo for us. We ask a lot of him and he's certainly delivered."

X-Factor
01-11-2005, 12:06 AM
He certainly deserves it for completely dominating the NFL. Now, if he can just be mediocre on Sunday, I'll praise him alot more.

Molina00
01-11-2005, 12:08 AM
Manning has always been great, everything just really fell into place this year, but the real test to see if he is unstoppable will be this weekend. I am really hoping he can finally snap his losing streak against the Pats.

thechadman2
01-11-2005, 12:19 AM
Another surprise! Mike Vick came in second with one vote. Heh.

twins15
01-11-2005, 01:29 AM
How the heck did Vick get a vote?

DONtheGREAT23
01-11-2005, 01:32 AM
manning definitely deserved it. but culpepper should have been 2. he put up an amazing year and if it wasnt for manning, he would have turned alot of heads. either culpepper or big ben

McMaster
01-11-2005, 01:51 AM
He for sure deserves it hands down he had a great season!

Natedog
01-11-2005, 11:50 PM
I actually think Vick should have gotten more votes. I mean look at what Manning has to work with and what Vick has to work with.

Chisox12345
01-12-2005, 01:56 AM
How the heck did Vick get a vote?

i was wondering that too, manning blows him away

NomarFan5
01-12-2005, 01:59 AM
i was wondering that too, manning blows him away

I was wondering why Vick even got a vote.. Can anyone say Culpepper, McNabb.. hell even Brees, Roethlisberger.

cshutout33
01-12-2005, 02:16 AM
manning definitely deserved it. but culpepper should have been 2. he put up an amazing year and if it wasnt for manning, he would have turned alot of heads. either culpepper or big ben

I was wondering why Vick even got a vote.. Can anyone say Culpepper, McNabb.. hell even Brees, Roethlisberger.

Big Ben!!! HAHAHA... I hope your kidding... all he has in his name is being a rookie and going 15-0... his stats weren't that amazing.

He certainly deserves it for completely dominating the NFL. Now, if he can just be mediocre on Sunday, I'll praise him alot more.


Too bad... the Patriots are going to win... even though he will perform mediocre.

Magus Relmyn
01-12-2005, 02:37 AM
I actually think Vick should have gotten more votes. I mean look at what Manning has to work with and what Vick has to work with.

YES! You are absolutely right. No I am not saying Peyton shouldn't be the MVP, because without a doubt, he should be. Vick deserved that one vote, because he like Natedog said, look at Vick's offensive line compared to Peyton's, his o-line is full of Pro Bowlers, while the Falcons have nothing but Kynan Forney on their line. On top of that, Vick's only target to throw to is Alge Crumpler, while Peyton has Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Brandon Stokley, and Dallas Clark.

I'm just saying.

Penning10
01-12-2005, 02:40 AM
I actually think Vick should have gotten more votes. I mean look at what Manning has to work with and what Vick has to work with.
I agree 100%.

Wait, this isn't the "Most Overrated Player" award?

Magus Relmyn
01-12-2005, 02:45 AM
I agree 100%.

Wait, this isn't the "Most Overrated Player" award?

don't h8 the player, h8 the game.

cshutout33
01-12-2005, 02:45 AM
No, that would be Big Ben.

Penning10
01-12-2005, 03:11 AM
No, that would be Big Ben.
Roethelisberger might not deserve all of the credit for the Steelers' 13 straight Ws, not even close; but by all means he is far from overrated. He did finish 5th in QB rating.

cshutout33
01-12-2005, 03:18 AM
What about pass yards, TD's, INT's not thrown, completion percentage, etc. Dont get me wrong... I think he did pretty well... but he is overhyped because of his record... whcih isn't all of his doing.

Penning10
01-12-2005, 03:23 AM
What about pass yards, TD's, INT's not thrown, completion percentage, etc.
I believe his completion % was about 64 or so, with 17 TDs and 11 INTs. I have no idea about yards, but that's still fantastic for a rookie who played 13 or so games in a run happy offense.

cshutout33
01-12-2005, 03:35 AM
I always pictured them as more pass happy with Burress (who I hate), Ward (ugh, I hate him too), and Randel El (hes not so bad)... and Bettis/Staley as a running back duo... not the best... although great powerbacks.

QuickDish15
01-13-2005, 10:49 PM
Manning deserved it hands down. I am shocked Vick even got a vote.