New LOZ to take place after WW!

[The_Cat]

Some vague details about the plot and release date. Make your rep points payable to wildcat1081! :heybaby: Read up and discuss...

http://cube.ign.com/articles/588/588913p1.html

February 18, 2005 - In an interview with the French publication Liberation, Nintendo producer Eiji Aonuma commented on the next installment in the series for GameCube, and confirmed that a DS Zelda title is underway.

Aonuma, who was the level designer for The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time and directed the follow-up Majora's Mask, is currently overseeing the new GameCube Legend of Zelda. "I'm two-hundred percent involved in its development," he told the publication.

Shigeru Miyamoto's right-hand man was slim on details about the game. "The next episode in the Zelda series for GameCube is already coming, but I can't say absolutely anything about it," he explained. "You know the deal -- even the title and theme are still secret."

However, he did confirm two never-before-known facts about the project. "The next grand Zelda game, which follows chronologically after the Wind Waker, will be released at the end of 2005 in Japan," Aonuma revealed. The late 2005 release date in Japan would indicate that a simultaneous launch in the US could be planned.

Quizzed for more specifics on the game, Aonuma held firm, but did say: "I can reveal one lone secret: it'll be very, very beautiful."

Aonuma also spoke on a Legend of Zelda title for Nintendo DS. "There's no doubt about a Zelda game for the DS," he said. "In fact, know that our ideas for Four Swords have greatly contributed to the concept behind the DS."

The producer also noted that his work on the GBA-based Four Swords influenced the direction of the DS. "The gameplay ideas we came up with for Four Swords provided examples on what kind of games would be possible on the Nintendo DS and what kind of advantages the double-screen would enable. It was all theoretical, but today we realize it's a pity -- a real shame -- that we haven't created a demonstration of a real, great Zelda game for DS."

In addition, Aonuma spoke briefly about his career. The 40 year-old producer revealed that he had never touched a videogame before he began work at Nintendo as a designer some 17 years ago. "My first experience playing a game was Zelda: A Link to the Past. A great memory that still influences me to this date."

So what does the man who helped shape the Legend of Zelda series think of its faithful hero? "Link reminds me a lot of the little boy I just had: always happy, playful, and talented enough to get himself out of every situation."

[Viral Mutation]

So the ocean dies *sobs*

[Eidorian]

I love games that help the continiuty and overall story.

[MajoraBoy]

Man, I wanted it to take place after Majora's Mask. Oh well, the day will come when OoT will get it's true sequel, this game will still be one of the greatest. Zelda DS sounds cool though.

[dncardman]

Ahh cool, thanks for the heads up.

[dork]

I can't get excited about this game...I guess it's still a little too early. :/

[koten]

I don't know if its an actual sequal, I mean, he said it comes cronolgically after, but he never said it's the direct sequal.

Sorry to be picky, but I just don't think it is.

[Cofey]

^I agree. I think it would be a bad idea to make it a sequel.

[Eidorian]

^I agree. I think it would be a bad idea to make it a sequel.I agree. I wasn't a big fan of Majora's Mask since it was a sequal. Still, it at least tells us Zelda fans where it fits in the grand scheme of games.

[MTV]

MM pwned OoT IMO. the graphics were better, it had better action, and had a more darker/mysterious feel to it.

[Sbrother]

MM pwned OoT IMO. the graphics were better, it had better action, and had a more darker/mysterious feel to it.
I think Oot was definately better, it had more places to go, and it was just plain fun to play.......MM on the other hand, i wasnt too fond of. it didnt really seem to fun to me (in my opinion) plus, i dont like how you had a time limit to beat the game, sure it was hard, and i like a challenge, but it just didnt seem as good as Oot. thats what i think

[Xtreme Nemi$i$]

^ Get off the crack, boy. Unless you have some kind of disease, then you should know OoT is the greatest game of all time. To sum it up in one word: legendary.

And yeah, this new Zelda looks fantastic. It would be my most anticipated title right now if it weren't so far off. I'm working on beating Windwaker right now. Yes, I never beat it. I just got it a month ago, and have barely played it (on the second level). *waits to be screamed at by everyone*

[SuperLuigiBros]

*screams at you*

[MajoraBoy]

Wind Waker IMO was sort of a disappointment, It was way to easy (I didn't die once in the game, I don't even know what they death sequence looks like), it tore OoT's Storyline into pieces, and fighting Ganondorf was a joke. Other then that though, it was an OKAY game but nothing like OoT or MM.

[Sbrother]

^ Get off the crack, boy. Unless you have some kind of disease, then you should know OoT is the greatest game of all time. To sum it up in one word: legendary.

And yeah, this new Zelda looks fantastic. It would be my most anticipated title right now if it weren't so far off. I'm working on beating Windwaker right now. Yes, I never beat it. I just got it a month ago, and have barely played it (on the second level). *waits to be screamed at by everyone*
when i read the words "Get off the crack, boy" i thought you were talking about me (phew)

im glad people agree with me

[Xtreme Nemi$i$]

^ Yeah, I heard the same thing from my friend. He said basically the exact same thing as you, including the Ganondorf fight being pathetic. So far it has been pretty damn easy...I can't remember if I've died or not. I think I lost all my hearts when fooling around on the first level trying to figure out how to get the boss key (that took me forever to figure out, oh my lord) but I had a fairy. The puzzles are pretty challenging so far. Well, somewhat.

[Sbrother]

i havent beat the game either, but i think its an ok game so far, though im not very far

[Xtreme Nemi$i$]

Damn Sbrother, that's two posts in a row you've beaten me to. When you first posted it was at 8:01 and when I was I first got on the thread it must've been right before you posted so I read MTV's post and was responding to that. Then when I got back on the thread you did it again. I meant to have that arrow pointing to Synergy right above me. And yes, that crack thing was to MTV....crazy little n00b.... :cycspin:

[Sbrother]

lol.......i guess im just fast

[Xtreme Nemi$i$]

Fast typing, slow thinker. (j/k). I'm the exact opposite.

[Sbrother]

so that would be "Typing fast, thinker slow, right.........:)

[Xtreme Nemi$i$]

......lol......NOW GET BACK ON TOPIC!!!

[Sbrother]

hmm............(what was the topic) *scrolls up to the top and reads*........thats right the new zelda game! it'll be awsome, though i wish it was a sequal of OoT, oh well, it'll be kewl either way

[orcus116]

I must be on crack too then. I found MM much more fun and engaging than OoT. I think maybe cause there was more things to do and the overall atmosphere was different. Not to say OoT was bad. Both games I hold on such a high level.

[Xtreme Nemi$i$]

MM was a much more "involved" game and I understand that many people love it for this, but there's no other way to put it than it's just not as legendary of a game. I did love the atmosphere of Majora's Mask too and really loved the Mask Sidequests. But hear this. I beat MM once. Would you like to guess the number of times I beat OoT? SEVEN, a full seven times. Probably more than I've ever beaten any other Adventure games. I beat Metroid Prime three times.

[OutlawAdidas]

MM pwned OoT IMO. the graphics were better, it had better action, and had a more darker/mysterious feel to it.


Its amazing how you can say that since they both used the same graphic engine

[dork]

MM pwned OoT IMO.
Hahahahaha, I laugh because not everyone in the entire world could understands what that means.

[Sbrother]

lol, i was thinking that same thing! lol

[OutlawAdidas]

I wanna know the story behind it. How did they get rid of the ocean? Does Link find some Materia? Who is the main baddy? Is Ganon back?

[Mr. Coww]

I spent alot of time looking at the character models in WW and came to realize dispite being cell shaded they have a insane level of polys, if you just remove cell shading it would probly look just as good as the screens for the upcoming GC Zelda, so i belive he was right in its pretty comment in the interview.After WW means a new land based area that has nothing to do with OOTs world and doesnt have to just be a larger version of hyrule feild, which makes me happy.

[Xtreme Nemi$i$]

You wanna know everything Outlaw....and not everyone knows the hacker word PWN!!!? Shit, I need to inform these people of this badass word. It's like irony, for some reason irony is a kickass word to me. With a kickass meaning. Like nostalgia. Leet is another pimp word .[/completely off topic rant]

[Nexus]

I really liked the story behind WW. It was so magical. I likle how they are going to continue the story on from WW. It will be interesting on how the sea disapears.
I was just thinking today wouldn't boat racing be a great multiplayer game. I think they should create some simple multiplayer modes for the next zelda.

[MajoraBoy]

Its amazing how you can say that since they both used the same graphic engine

Yeah but the graphics were improved a bit, along with the cinemas. Remember, it took the expansion pack to run MM but OoT could run normally.

[SPAM!]

so that would be "Typing fast, thinker slow, right.........:)

Stop spamming, that's my job.

This new Legend of Zelda should take place after Four Sword Adventures, where the Link grows up, and splits in four again while an adult. That would kick ass like a Super Fly. :spam:

[MTV]

^ Get off the crack, boy.

me on crack? nooooo.

*scratches himself*

yeah, OoT was legendary in storyline, there ain't no contest about that. but MM had way more action, plus i liked fierce diety and the gilded sword.

[Flaccid Acid]

You all have to let Ocarina of Time go, sure it was an amazing game, and they gave you all a sequal to it in Majoras Mask. Wind Waker followed Majora, and this new game apparently follows Wind Waker, which hopefully links it to ALTTP by the end of it.

[koten]

Zeldaman... you should know that ther most we'll ever really get is 2 games that fit into cronological order... you have to guess where those two games go in the grand scheme of Zelda.

On an unrelated note. I think this game should have nothing to do with Wind Waker... or any pervious Zelda. This one should be able to stand on it's own, without having to mooch off it's predicessors.

[OutlawAdidas]

I think that even though Ganon is pretty pimp they need to introdce a kick ass baddy. Or like a higher being that Ganon serves.

[koten]

I thought Vatii was pretty kickass while I was playing Minish Cap.

They should introduce new badguys like him every once and a while, or match him up with Ganon like in 4 Swords.

[Viral Mutation]

Taking place after Wind waker is just...Stupid. WE WAN'T THE REAL LINK BACK! not some stupid remake

[Mirai]

When they say the new game will take place after WW they don't necassarily mean it is a sequel. Hell, it doesn't even mean the stories will be linked past the way all Zelda games are linked.

If you know you're Zelda chronology then you would know that OoT, MM and WW all take place before ALttP. Despite that fact, they were never really called prequels. They are just new games in the series.

Hell, for all we know this new Zelda could take place after every current Zelda game (I believe Link's Adventure is the last in chronological order) because that would still take place after Wind Waker.

[Bloodman]

Well, if some of us payed attention to the story line in WW, we would know how this all ends up.

At the end the king says "Go, find another land, and it will be your own" or something like that. Well, in almost every Zelda game Link is always a desendent of a prior one. Since every Zelda game takes place a few years to a 100 years ahead of the previouse one, it would be pretty safe to expect that this Link will be son of the one in WW.

Now lets go back. When the King of hyrul was getting ready to die and saved link and that pirate chick, he told them to find a new land, whether or not to name it hyrule was their choice, but as founders they would rule it themselves, therefor the Link in WW would be like King Hyrule to the new hyrule.

Now, since the Link in the new zelda game is probably gonna be a descendent of the Link in WW (who is king of "new" hyrule) wouldn't this make the new Link heir to the throne? I believe so.

I believe that Link will have to take back the throne for whatever reason, and so it becomes a new chapter with a new quest...

[Pro A.]

Whatever the case may be, the new chronology details aren't surprising. I still think Adventure of Link is the final story in the chronology until further notice, and it isn't like Nintendo has bothered to come out and straighten that out for all of us that might be curious.

[Mirai]

Well, if some of us payed attention to the story line in WW, we would know how this all ends up.

At the end the king says "Go, find another land, and it will be your own" or something like that. Well, in almost every Zelda game Link is always a desendent of a prior one. Since every Zelda game takes place a few years to a 100 years ahead of the previouse one, it would be pretty safe to expect that this Link will be son of the one in WW.

Now lets go back. When the King of hyrul was getting ready to die and saved link and that pirate chick, he told them to find a new land, whether or not to name it hyrule was their choice, but as founders they would rule it themselves, therefor the Link in WW would be like King Hyrule to the new hyrule.

Now, since the Link in the new zelda game is probably gonna be a descendent of the Link in WW (who is king of "new" hyrule) wouldn't this make the new Link heir to the throne? I believe so.

I believe that Link will have to take back the throne for whatever reason, and so it becomes a new chapter with a new quest...
Actually, if you paid attention when playing WW you'd find that WW Link had no connections with OoT/MM Link. None of the Link's really have any ties. They are just born when the world needs a hero.

[MTV]

i'll stick to my beliefs and wait till e3.

[Flaccid Acid]

Actually, if you paid attention when playing WW you'd find that WW Link had no connections with OoT/MM Link. None of the Link's really have any ties. They are just born when the world needs a hero.


ERRR sorry that's wrong bucko. During the begining opening sequence it explains (roughly) what happened during and after Oot and MM. Remember it was a legend thats why things seemed sort of exagerated.
Well, Link saved the say in Ocarina, then left forever in MM, then Ganon came back and thats when the flooding of the world took place, a couple of hundred years later, and tada, Wind Waker like was back.

If you play the game a second time you see what all the Gods where saying (instead of the garbled text you got before) and a few of them mistake you for the Hero of Time, also the Deku tree (the little baby one) from Oot was in WW too.

The master Sword was, as was Ganon. Tetra was related to the Zelda of Oot, (grand doughter or more likely, great great great grand-doughter.

Make any sence?

[MajoraBoy]

I would still like to know what happened to the Hero of Time after MM though :(.

[SuperLuigiBros]

Actually, if you paid attention when playing WW you'd find that WW Link had no connections with OoT/MM Link. None of the Link's really have any ties. They are just born when the world needs a hero.
Exactly. At the start of wind waker it has the story that there was the Hero of Time (OoT) and he defeated Gannon and then he disapeared and then Ganon came back and the hero of time never returned and Hyrule got ownd. The WW Link has nothing to do with the OoT one or the MM one, except that they have that old story and thats how he looks like Link in WW. So like, WW is after MM, but a few hundred years after it so botht he stories have next to nothing to do with each other.

[Vishus]

I would still like to know what happened to the Hero of Time after MM though :(.

If you played WW you'd obviously know.

Link did not find Navi. Unless they say he found her we'lll assume that. He spent the rest of his life out side of Hyrule (kokiri forest?) and got seperated from the Legendary Hero power. He had descendants until WW Link came along to do the Hero thing. So yes there is a connection.

Whats with the fucked up "I want a true OoT sequel"? Its annoying and old. You guys haven't even played game or even know what the story is.

[MajoraBoy]

That's a retarded way to end a legend though, shit if I went looking for someone, I wouldn't spend my entire life in the forest looking, especially if I were a Hero and use to fighting things. So no, I wouldn't obviously know because Wind Waker only said he never came back, it never said why.

[Vishus]

Was OoT your first Zelda game? Everything seems to have to be about OoT.

-first zelda to go 3d
-amazing transition from 2d-3d
-awesome hype
-first zelda for a lot of people
-The only game other than GE that was an N64 savior
-etc etc etc

[Sbrother]

it wasent my first zelda game, but it sure was the funnest!

[Flaccid Acid]

The point is the Oot storyline is over. I don't see what the big deal is, I liked the ending, Oot had a nice ending, and MM led the way to cleary say what happended to Link. Maybe he did return, but why would it matter. He obbiously died someway or another, and then the story kept going. A Zelda game can still be great without being related to Oot.

[Eidorian]

I don't get what the problem is. It just takes place after WindWaker.

[OutlawAdidas]

I loved Wind Waker. The only thing they could change was the difficulty of the bosses. Each boss took like 3 hits to kill.

Also make ocean travelling faster

[Mirai]

ERRR sorry that's wrong bucko. During the begining opening sequence it explains (roughly) what happened during and after Oot and MM. Remember it was a legend thats why things seemed sort of exagerated.
Well, Link saved the say in Ocarina, then left forever in MM, then Ganon came back and thats when the flooding of the world took place, a couple of hundred years later, and tada, Wind Waker like was back.

If you play the game a second time you see what all the Gods where saying (instead of the garbled text you got before) and a few of them mistake you for the Hero of Time, also the Deku tree (the little baby one) from Oot was in WW too.

The master Sword was, as was Ganon. Tetra was related to the Zelda of Oot, (grand doughter or more likely, great great great grand-doughter.

Make any sence?
You misinterpretted me. I said the Link's have no real ties. The games however do. The OoT/MM and WW storylines are linked but the two Links are only linked by the fact they both have the name Link and they both end up fighting Ganon.

If you play the game a second time like you said you'll hear the King of Red Lions state that he has no ties with the Hero of Time. They aren't related. That's what I meant.

No need to apologise.

[Hylian-Advocate]

Erhhhh!! I can never follow the story lines......as many times as I've played them,.....I can never seem to remember the plots and how they connect.

I tell you someone should make them into novels or something!.......anybody know a well site where I can find a well crafted chronology! I've read a few, but they are porrly writen and I can't understand them. I really should just buy all the Zelda games. I've never even played any of the GameBoy ones. (I know.....I am shamefull)

[Dashboard]

All this talk reminds me of how good Wind Waker was. I'm tempted to play it through again.

[Eidorian]

Erhhhh!! I can never follow the story lines......as many times as I've played them,.....I can never seem to remember the plots and how they connect.

I tell you someone should make them into novels or something!.......anybody know a well site where I can find a well crafted chronology! I've read a few, but they are porrly writen and I can't understand them. I really should just buy all the Zelda games. I've never even played any of the GameBoy ones. (I know.....I am shamefull)

Wikpedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda_series)

The timeline is in the middle of the page.

[Vishus]

That timeline still sucks compared to when HTLOZ.com was still running. That was an awesome zelda flash site. I have never seen a flash site or zelda site as cool. Too bad it went down. It told the Zelda timeline as if you were reading classic literature stories.

[Xtreme Nemi$i$]

This thread just made realize exactly how damn deep the Zelda franchise is. Now let me go beat WW. And people, please put spoiler at the top of a post when needed since I'm the only poor loser who hasn't beaten WW (although of course I know the ending, just not everything that happens).