I've got the goods on Revolution. Again.

[tonic]

The following are online entries from a former Nintendo employee, who now works in a company that is developing for the Revolution.
It's a long read, but well worth the effort. I nearly ruined a good pair of pants.
Aries Says:
April 26th, 2005 at 4:41 pm

Here you go:

Brooke got some things right, but much of it is flawed. I don’t know whether he just made up a lot of that stuff, because many of the points have been disproven before. For instance, Game Informer wrote an article on the next generation consoles in which it claims the Revolution’s controller will have one giant touch screen. I’m thinking this is where Brooke got that idea. The Revolution will not have a touch screen. Iwata has stated this before. The controller will be quite normal in the sense that it will have a d-pad and buttons. Like I said, I’m not going to tell you the revolutionary aspect of the system. Nintendo has some cool pre E3 plans for that.

First off, the 3D visuals he mentioned have nothing to do with the system. Nintendo isn’t crazy.

It will also have gyroscopic controls, but like Brooke said, not all the games will use it. For instance, earlier I mentioned Nintendo has a Halo killer in development for the Revolution. This game will use the gyroscopic controls for aiming as wel as other things. Our game isn’t using this function.

The controller will be wireless; he’s right about that. As you also know, the Xbox 360’s controllers will be wireless as well. Where do you think they got this idea? That’s why Nintendo is still trying to determine what to show at E3. From what I’ve heard, they will show the design of the system as well as games. I’ll tell you about the software later though.

The controller will also be pressure sensitive. The pressure you put into it will determine certain things, such as movement. This is another optional capibility. Someone on Nintendo’s board mentioned this months ago. They said that “touching is good, but feeling is better.” This may sound strange, but it provides great controls. Racing games will really be helped by this control setting.

The Nintendo Revolution will also include voice control more advanced than anything seen so far. Nintendogs is just the beginning. To achieve this, Nintendo sent us headsets (similar to ones you can use for Xbox Live) that are wirelessless communicating with the console. Imagine being able to merely call for an airstrike or reload your gun by giving out commands orally. So far, we have put this feature to the test the most; as you can see, I’m excited over this feature.

From a graphical perspective, the Nintendo Revolution is very powerful. Many people seem to think this won’t be the case, but rest assured. The games I saw while working at Nintendo were very beautiful. I’ll tell you about those later.

As Nintendo has stated before, the system will be online. In my eyes, the online system they have set up is the most revolutionary part of the system. While Sony and Microsoft are busy turning their systems into trojan horses for their other electronic devices, Nintendo is going to use the Revolution for direct communication with gamers. The only way I can describe it is as an internet service. Imagine turning it on and checking your mail on the system. You see previews and demos of DS and Revolution games that you can download. A magazine similar to Nintendo Power will be exclusive to the system, and you will be able to access it on the Revolution’s homepage. As you check you mail, you will also see various invitations from gamers on your buddy list who want to play you. There are so many other ways this is going to be used. Once the Revolution comes out, there will be no reason to hang out on message boards. Message boards as well as chat rooms will be available on the Revolution so that gamers can discuss and challenge each other all day. And the best thing is that the entire thing is totally free and easy to use. Why play Madden on Xbox Live when you’ll be able to play it for free on the Revolution with much better services?

That’s all I’m going to reveal for now. There are some very interesting games in the horizon for the Revolution; I’ll talk about them later.
Aries Says:
April 26th, 2005 at 5:04 pm

Like Brooke said, console ideas are nothing without good games. Once you see the games, you will understand. I would go as far to say that the Revolution isn’t as revolutionary as Nintendo is saying. It should be called the Nintendo Simplicity, because every aspect I mentioned greatly simplifies the gaming experience. For instance, the pressure sensitive grips on the controller make racing games much easier to control and play. Wave Race (yes, it will be at E3) is going to be very impressive because it will use this function. It will be sort of like controlling a game with one of those stress balls. You squeeze it and you go faster. It’s hard to explain though.

Don’t expect to see too much if any of the controller at E3 though. Nintendo is still trying to decide what to show and what not to show. The games will be revealed, as well as specs and the system design. But the controller is still being considered.

To Jesus: when you see the voice controls, you will be blown away. Go back and watch some sci fi movies with voice controlled vehicles (such as AI or I am Robot).
# Aries Says:
April 26th, 2005 at 2:14 pm

You guys are still talking about the 3D angle of that article? Check the date of the patent in question. This has already been used in a game that’s out right now. I would suggest you pay attention to IGN or N-Sider more.

Like I said, I’m going to give out some details on the next gen hardware, especially the Nintendo Revolution. You guys already know a lot of information on the Xbox 360; you guys have already seen the specs of the system. Gamespy released them around GDC. I was at GDC, and I’ll fill you in on some stuff that IGN can’t talk about. Specs and details on the Nintendo Revolution were given out to developers during the conference. I can verify that my company as well as EA and Midway received them at GDC. I’m positive other publishers received them as well.

From what I’ve heard, Capcom and Namco are sold on the Revolution and are currently playing around with the development kits. I don’t know whether they are actually making games for it though. I was suprised to hear that Square Soft has a game in development for the Revolution. It will be at E3 as well as some other next gen titles for the PS3.

I’m currently working on a game for the Revolution as well. I can’t guarantee that it will be at E3 though. I think people are going to be very suprised. When I worked with Nintendo, I was able to see the earliest builds of the system. It has come a long way, to say the least. There are a lot of graphics whores out there who feel the Revolution will be a weak system. They will be very suprised come E3. Microsoft is banking on stealing the show, but I think they will be upstaged by Nintendo as well as Sony. It’s going to be very funny to see them trying to get people excited about Perfect Dark 0 when both Nintendo and Sony will be showing off Halo killers.
# Aries Says:
April 26th, 2005 at 3:28 pm



I’m not going to share specs with you because they aren’t really that important. I think Iwata said something like that when asked the same question. All three consoles are going to be very powerful, trust me. I’ll give you some information though: it will be more powerful than the Xbox 360. Much more powerful. Many gamers seem to think it will be as powerful as the GBA or something. That isn’t the case at all. From what I saw during my time their as well as our game, it will be very capible.

But having the most powerful console doesn’t guarantee that gamers are going to buy it. Software sells the games. And if that statement holds true next generation, the Nintendo Revolution will be very popular.

In my next post I will “spill the beans” on everything I know about the Revolution. I’ll give you some hints though. All the rumors out there are not mere rumors. Some are planted by people who are working on the consoles. In fact, Nintendo is doing this right now with the information they’ve released on the Revolution. You are going to see why Nintendo hasn’t just come out and said confirmed that the Revolution is going to be very powerful. You’re going to be punk’d by them in a couple weeks. Pay attention to the boards, especially Nintendo’s board. It’s much better than OurColony.

Aries Says:
April 27th, 2005 at 6:10 am

Silicon
Knights is not developing for the Nintendo Revolution right now. They
will show off some Xbox 360 games at E3; I can confirm that. Matt saw
the game, and he knows what they are up to. Once he is able to talk
about it, he will reveal his information to you.

Like I said, I
know as much about Resident Evil 5 as you do. I would guess it is going
to be a current generation game. If Capcom could have it ready for the
holidays (to combat the Xbox 360), it would come out then. But that’s
just my own speculation (and hope; RE4 is amazing).

I can
confirm that Nintendo is currently working on many Revolution titles.
Most are just in the planning stages, but I have seen video of seven.
I’m sure at least three or four of these games will be at E3 in video
form. Perhaps more; we will see at E3. Outside of our game, there are
six 3rd party games that I have heard of. As I mentioned earlier,
Square Enix (happy now?) is developing a new game for the Revolution.
EA, Sega, Zoonami, Namco, and Activision are currently working on games.

3rd party information:

EA
is playing around with the Revolution’s capibilities, implementing them
into another Madden game. This isn’t really news though. From what I’ve
heard, they are really going out of their way to make this more than
just a port. Voice controls are being used to the max in this title.
Calling out audibles will be used this way. The wireless capibilities
of the system are also going to be used. Like I said, there will be no
reason to buy Madden for the Xbox 360 when the Revolution version comes
out.

Sega is developing three games for the Revolution that
should be at E3. I’m not going to reveal too much on what they are up
to for obvious reasons. The three games I listed does not include the
game we are developing for them. You will be very suprised at what they
are doing. I’m sure you have heard of the Xbox 360 title Condemned that
they are working on. This game is something that many wouldn’t expect
Sega to make; you won’t expect what you will see at E3. The other game
they have is a typical, quirky Sega game. It’s very interesting in the
sense that it uses all the system’s capibilities.

Zoonami has
already given out some hints on what they are working on. I have always
felt that Sam Fisher is a much better character than Solid Snake.
Zoonami just might have some characters that are better than both of
them.

Namco is working on a Revolution game, but I don’t have
details on it. I am sure that it is not a Soul Caliber III port. I
don’t see why they just won’t add online play and Link and Ganon to the
game and release it as a launch title. That would be a very smart move.

Activision
is working on some ports for the Revolution. You will see what they
have for the Xbox 360 at E3. At least one of these games will be ported
to the Revolution for its launch.

On 1st party information:

Like
I said, I have seen seven Nintendo titles, some of which will be at E3.
When the DS was launced, it had one sub par 1st party game. This will
not be the case with the Revolution’s launch. If they were to release
all the games I’ve seen at launch, it would easily be the best launch
ever for a console.

I can confirm that Nintendo is working on a
new, orignal Mario game. In my opinion, the last few Miyamoto games
havn’t been that interesting. This will change with this game. Like
Mario 64 for the N64, this game will introduce all of the capibilities
of the console. It will use the pressure sensitive controls mainly, but
the voice controls as well as gyroscopic controls will be used as well.
From what I saw, this game will use mini games to introduce many of
these schemes. All of these mini games could be released as stand alone
games.

A new Super Smash Bros. Melee is in the works as well.
This game will demonstrate the online functions of the Revolution.
Nintendo has added many new things into the game, included a deeper
combat system. Many more special moves are included as well as some
very cool suprises. The levels will include some destructible
environments, and the characters will be fully customizable. Want to
play as Mario in his 80’s outfit? Or would you prefer the 90’s look?
It’s your choice. The most innovative part of the game is the different
modes. In previous games, you were allowed to play in giant mode, metal
mode, small mode, etc. That has changed. You will be able to choose to
play in a “Paper” mode (a la Paper Mario), a cel shaded mode (Wind
Waker), or Viewtiful Joe-esque mode.

As I said earlier, Retro is working on a Halo killer. This game is going to be one of the best games at E3. In my opinion, StarCraft was the best RTS ever. This game is going to use some similar ideas. In most FPS, you play as a hero trying to save the day. In Retro’s game, they allow you to choose which storyline you want to play, just like StarCraft allows you to play as Terran, Zerg, etc. Biological weapons will play a major part in the game. Imagine fighting in a chemical plant, where toxics are stored everywhere. By shooting them, you emit the toxic. If you get hit by this stuff, many different things may happen. For instance, you may lose sight on the screen, your controls might be inverted or slowed down, etc. Or, if your character gets the fever, the controller might get hot. Very hot. The alien races are very interesting also. You will be able to switch to 3rd person in order to move faster (similar to running in Odd World: Stranger’s Wrath). You will be able to “impregnate” human players by grabbing on to them for a certain amount of time. This will implant a NPC in them, which will burst out at your command, instantly killing the human player. You will then be able to use voice control to command the NPC.

[OutlawAdidas]

OMG FUCKING GOD.........+rep I love you Tonic

[C.J.]

Oh my Jesus.

[OutlawAdidas]

CJ, if you want to talk to Jesus........the Revolution will be here soon!

[Kliq]

HOLY HELL!

That was a GREAT read.

omg ... omg ... omg.

If that stuff is true, than I am going to cry (joyful tears).

Awesome details man. That Online Nintendo plan sounded great. Nintendo Power online? I mean, thats just a badass idea. I would love that. How convenient would that be?

The controller sounds very instant. Good thing its not a touch screen though. But I like the idea of pressure-sensitive controllers and the voice feature.

And SMASH BROS. YESS! That sounded great. A paper, cel-shaded and viewtiful joe type mode? HELL YEA.

Once again, if this is true, than I'm DEFINITELY buying a Revolution.

It all comes down to launch titles. I'm in the middle right now. Eithier a XBOX 360 or Revolution.

Reps man, good find.

[Ravster]

nice! very good info!

[Kliq]

Square ENIX - I hope they give us Final Fantasy 12. Come on Square.

Or better yet.

MARIO RPG, a true sequel.

[Michael]

Hell fucking naw! + rep when I can. Very good read, and it seems really really possible too.

[Zeep]

...wow...

[Kliq]

If its true that Microsoft took Nintendo's idea of wireless controllers for the next-gen consoles, than I can see why Ninty is so secretive.

[Sendok]

the last paragraph is pretty kickin.

[Alpha Rioja]

For instance, earlier I mentioned Nintendo has a Halo killer in development for the Revolution. This game will use the gyroscopic controls for aiming as wel as other things.


:praise:

[Zeep]

Can we have a linhk to this blog or message board or whatever it is?

[Kliq]

It's from http://brokensaints.com/blog/.

[Flaccid Acid]

Please be true please be true please be true..

[HereticPB]

Bows down. OMFG!

[Zeep]

It's from http://brokensaints.com/blog/.
i don't see these posts there anywhere.

[ocarinamask]

Or, if your character gets the fever, the controller might get hot. Very hot.

This sounds very interesting and this all seems very believable. I think this is what we can really expect to see on the Revolution.

[Kliq]

i don't see these posts there anywhere.

I don't eitheir, but thats what GCA said.

[HereticPB]

Its in the comments section of the last post about Revolution.

The guy works for a developer, making a game for Sega, the game they are working on is VectorMan!

http://brokensaints.com/blog/?p=48#comments

[OutlawAdidas]

vectorman was a very fun game

[Bloodman]

Omg Omgomgomgogmogmgogmogmogmogmogomgomgomgoogogogog














































Can't Wair!!!!!!!

[Sandman]

If that's true, then it just solidified my plans to buy a Revolution..

[Kliq]

Man, destructible levels in Smash Bros. Even I forgot about that, props to Nintendo for moving the franchise forward.

[HereticPB]

I haven’t heard anything about a new Nights game, which is sad; Nights was a brilliant game. I have heard talk of a new Virtual Fighter though. Just talk though.
Vectorman isn’t coming out for the PS2. Sega was going to bring it to the current consoles, but the plan was scrapped. And no I don’t work for Pseudo Interactive. Or Silicon Knights. Funny you bring them up though. They will have one of the best games at E3. Outside of Zelda, Nintendo’s FPS (developed by Retro), and PD0, it will be the one of the best showings of E3.

I don’t have details on what game Squaresoft is working on. I know that it will be at E3 along with Final Fantasy 3 and FF:CC for the DS.

I’m not going to give out the secret. It’s going to be very fun; wait until E3. Nintendo is going to roll out a trojan horse: something that looks innocent and weak and them bam, it will be unveiled. Just don’t make up your mind on the first day of E3.

There is not a Sonic game in development for the Revolution. It is an exclusive Gamecube game. This one is totally seperate from Shadow the Hedgehog, which will be multi console (and should hit the PSP as well).

That’s all for today. I will be back. Hopefully Brooke will update his site by then. I want to hear more of what he allegedly knows.

--

Like Reggie said, Nintendo is changing. They aren’t going to sit around and let Sony and Microsoft steal all of their marketshare. I think they are going to do very well next generation. But it won’t be a cake walk or anything. I still think the PS3 is going to win the next generation. It is alot closer to completion than many think, and at E3 they will show off some amazing stuff as well.
I will tell you guys about the other four titles later. Zelda is not one of them, although I have seen some preliminary designs for the new one. Go look at the Elder Scrolls: Oblivion pics, and then put Link into those environments. A beautiful sight indeed.
The information keeps coming!!!

[dncardman]

That...is the coolest thing I have ever read. I wasn't gonna read it because of the length but it is WELL worth it. Do I see the Revolution bringing the #1 spot back to the Nintendo camp?!?

[Bloodman]

Omg I Still Cant Wair!!!!!!

[Shadow Voa]

Paramedic 1: This kid isnt breathing at all, if we dont do something hes going to die!
Paramedic 2: We are losing him, we need to shock him now, here goes...CLEAR!!
*ZAP*
Paramedic1: Its no good.. I think we've lost him... omg!
* the patient rise up*
ShadowVoa: I have seen the Revolution's light, I followed the light and it has saved me. Bring me my Nintendo Revolution...please? :cry2:

[bobo_ess]

Holy shizzit.....

[Shade Valkyrie]

I have many times said after I have read something amazing that it made me cry, but never have I actually been serious about the crying part... Well, this time I say it: I read.. I cried... and I'm stil crying, and I'm acctually crying for real! :cry:

It all better be true, it sounds way amazing!

Once the Revolution comes out, there will be no reason to hang out on message boards. Message boards as well as chat rooms will be available on the Revolution so that gamers can discuss and challenge each other all day.This is the only thing I think he is having to big hopes on, I mean, Ninendos official forums are to crowded, nice with activity, but everything has it's limit, if they have not thought about that I won't see them outdo fan-forums like NNow. - But it would be amazing though if NNow and other Nintendo forums rather could add themself to a fansite list or something so that the Nintendo activity was spread over several forums rather than one!

[HereticPB]

As of now, I am leaning towards caution mode of this information.

[pac4life]

lol cannot belive i didnt see this thread, must put it up sometime while i was still reading this

any way

i still have a sour taste in my mouth from nintendo so im gonna wait. i got excited over the gamecube aswell, but its in my closet at the moment while my xbox has some doom 3 in it.

[Shade Valkyrie]

Or, if your character gets the fever, the controller might get hot. Very hot.OMG, the controller is able to change it's temprature level!?! "Touching is good, feeling is better" OMG, yes!!

[Bloodman]

OMG, the controller is able to change it's temprature level!?! "Touching is good, feeling is better" OMG, yes!!

OMG i never thought of it that way. Temperate changing controlers, what else?!?!?!?!?!! E3 COME NOW SEE ME MUST!!!!!

[Sandman]

That would be pretty cool. Imagine in like football games (like NCAA with the crowd) where you're not only kicking a field goal with intense rumble but it's also hot! Or you're racing and your car is about to overheat and so are your hands.

[Kliq]

How about in Zelda?

Fire Temple = controller gets considerably hot unless you wear the red tunic.

So many possibilities.

[Flaccid Acid]

Well im sure, hot to a point, I mean it would be awesome for it to get cold in a snowly level and hot in a valcono but I don't want it to extreme.

[tonic]

I can't wait to control Mario Kart with the new controller. Gyroscoping turning, pressure acceleration.
Should be sick.

[Bloodman]

pressure sensitive buttons for zelda, the more pressure you put in, the more strength Link puts into chopping an enemy in half.

[Tetsuo_Shima]

THIs is my first post but wow. I've been following the revolution for so long and this is amazing. Some parts don't sound to convincing, he seems a little sketchy, but these would be interesting game ideas. Have any of you seen that technology that some company I think named Navint is creating? It's like fully touchable game experience.

[Phoenix]

Oh my God!

That is amazing! I'm going to +Rep you, +Rep the next 5 people in the thread, then +Rep you again!

Words can't describe how amazing it would be if that's true!

[Bloodman]

Pikmin 3 better be there....

[Gilly]

Wow.

Um, wow.

I'm totally speechless and blown away.

Wow.


But I do have one other thing to add

A magazine similar to Nintendo Power will be exclusive to the system, and you will be able to access it on the Revolution’s homepage.

I distinctly remember saying that about a year ago. It was the very first ideas I had about Nintendo's online status.

I am a genius.


and so is Nintendo. :)

[Kliq]

(assuming this is true)

That online plan sounds pure genious. I mean ... having demos and previews everyday when you log onto the Revolution, it will truley become your one-stop source for all Nintendo.

I'm also glad that there was no mention of a DS/Revolution connectivity ... yet. Right now, I just want Nintendo to focus on Online Gaming.

Smash Bros as the first online game from Nintendo, I'm down with that.

[dork]

ALL LIES!!!!!

[Shade Valkyrie]

THIs is my first post but wow. I've been following the revolution for so long and this is amazing. Some parts don't sound to convincing, he seems a little sketchy, but these would be interesting game ideas. Have any of you seen that technology that some company I think named Navint is creating? It's like fully touchable game experience.Welcome! And enjoy you stay at E-mpire, I hope you'll keep posting on a steady basis!

If you are thinking about the the Novint Falcon controller then tonic touched upon that a while back as well, so most of us know about that one, an amazing device.

But compared to the news in this thread... Novint what? *Is still way excited*

[Dashboard]

Well, I just decided to get a Revolution AND a Xbox360.

[Bloodman]

Well, I just decided to get a Revolution

Welcome to Nintendo. Your fun can be found next to innovation which is right next to my clown friend, Bob!

[HereticPB]

Its kind of hard to say this is all fake cause nobody is crazy enough to string along people for a couple days. But if some sort of crazy person did this it is highly well done.

[Bloodman]

If this is fake and its all a lie i hop they get theirs. I dont want them to die or loose their home or anything, but i hope that they get their hopes high for something and then they get droped like bombs.

[Sandman]

pressure sensitive buttons for zelda, the more pressure you put in, the more strength Link puts into chopping an enemy in half.
PS2 already has analog buttons...

[SuperLuigiBros]

The SSBM sounds fantastic. cant wait.

Also...
Zelda is not one of them, although I have seen some preliminary designs for the new one. Go look at the Elder Scrolls: Oblivion pics, and then put Link into those environments. A beautiful sight indeed.
Is this one for the the Rev or is it the Gamecube one?

I think Nintendo will pwn next gen because they have mistakes they can learn from. Xbox seems like it will be another Vitrtual Boy...

[AntiRealityHero]

There are several reasons why I believe most [leaning towards all] of this to be false.

Here's one:

EA is playing around with the Revolution’s capibilities, implementing them into another Madden game. This isn’t really news though. From what I’ve heard, they are really going out of their way to make this more than just a port.This is Electronic Arts he's talking about, right?

*goes back to his side of the fence*

[Kliq]

Nintendo just needs a good launch this time around and they'll probably be able to seal the second, or even possibly the first, spot.

[koten]

Ohh god... this information is amazing... I'm really excited now. I hope it's all true.

Only 18 more days people... 18 more days.

[Deno22]

i know none of this stuff sounds made up, it seems really plausible and all so it really makes u wonder if it is true. i hope so, i was just thinking that there was no way i was gonna get a nintendo system next gen and then this came. E3 is taking forever.

[Shadow Voa]

I was considering buying an Xbox 360 since I owned GC and PS2 originally but now MS an Sony can go *uck themselves ( I said suck) cause, Nintendo is still the best this industry has to offer. The only way Ill end up getting another console this generation is if Square continues the Final Fantasy series on stupid PS3 which Im worried about.

Keh, on a good note though my troubles will matter not as come Super Smash Bros. Revolution time, itll be me taking all your names down and laying down the pain on all your characters. Bring it on is all I can finish off with, " This is how Nintendo shows people what a Revolution is all about!"

[Zeep]

Amen to that!

[Bloodman]

I hope they keep sheik as fast as she is. I dont want Hal pulling off a halo 2 by making what's supposed to be fast slow.

ps2 has pressure sensative buttons? The Revolution will perfect it.

[Lynk Former]

@.@ I have just read the text of the gods!!

[Phoenix]

Keh, on a good note though my troubles will matter not as come Super Smash Bros. Revolution time, itll be me taking all your names down and laying down the pain on all your characters. Bring it on is all I can finish off with, " This is how Nintendo shows people what a Revolution is all about!"Let's just hope they improve people like Roy and Yoshi who I really wish I could like but I can't. Although my money is on Roy getting replaced by Eliwood.

[Shadow Voa]

Being a FE fan of old, its very unlikely they will push Eliwood ( Id be shocked if they even dapled with some old school FE chars or even Hector)since he is by far more unknown compared to Roy who has acquired much more fame in Japan ( Fire Emblem 6 Sword of Seals only debuted in JAP) and I personally put all other characters to shame with Roy,Marth, and Fox if the other 2 are taken.

Character to pwn all = Marth/Roy
Stage of Prefered = Hyrule Castle/Final Destination

[Cofey]

I'm speechless. I am without speech.

[Shade Valkyrie]

PS2 already has analog buttons...That sort of analogy do the GCs A, B and Z button have as well I belive (not sure about the Z button though), but the only "true" analoge buttons this generation is the GCs R and L butons, there is a difference, I'm no techie though, but on the previous forum I went to some dude explained this really well... I wish I remembered how he explained it, lol.

[Bloodman]

They never take characters, they only add.

I wip so much ass with Sheik. Once i get you in the air you will never touch the ground.

[The Dude]

sounds too good to be true

[OnBake Platinum]

I'm waiting until E3 before wetting myself.

[dork]

You n00bs. I hope your all very disappointed come E3. I might believe all this crap if it were currently the 24th century. Hahahahahaha *reps self*

[Phoenix]

They never take characters, they only add. Yes but Americans would be much more familiar with Eliwood, plus he looks like Roy in almost every way except for the fact that he would use Durandal instead of Sword of Seals. That's why I think they might replace Roy. Eliwood would still have the same moveset as his son.

[disrupter006]

A new Super Smash Bros. Melee is in the works as well.
This game will demonstrate the online functions of the Revolution.
Nintendo has added many new things into the game, included a deeper
combat system. Many more special moves are included as well as some
very cool suprises. The levels will include some destructible
environments, and the characters will be fully customizable. Want to
play as Mario in his 80’s outfit? Or would you prefer the 90’s look?
It’s your choice. The most innovative part of the game is the different
modes. In previous games, you were allowed to play in giant mode, metal
mode, small mode, etc. That has changed. You will be able to choose to
play in a “Paper” mode (a la Paper Mario), a cel shaded mode (Wind
Waker), or Viewtiful Joe-esque mode.


If this portion alone is true, I'm dropping any cares for the Xbox 360.

[Zeep]

if what this guy says is true, i think it's safe to say the the XBox 360 will crash and burn. or be in last place, at least.

[OutlawAdidas]

If your supposed to be able to download stuff.........that means that some type of harddrive or higher memory storage will be involved

[Deno22]

i just don't get what gives this guy the right to spill the beans when so many others can't such as IGN.

[Zeep]

what gives him the right is that no one knows who he really is. even if nintendo found out someone was posting this, they wouldn't know which developer was leaking it, and they might even be glad he's not giving away the 'revolutionary' feature.

[Lynk Former]

If your supposed to be able to download stuff.........that means that some type of harddrive or higher memory storage will be involved
I believe someone from Nintendo did mention a hard drive for the Revolution a long time ago.

[Xtreme Gamer]

All of it was very interesting, but the part that caught my attention the most was the info on the next Super Smash Bros. game. Honestly, if this is true, then I am definitely getting the Revolution.

[SuperLuigiBros]

For the next Smash Bros. do you think theyll re-introduce tropies, or do you think there will be something different?
I personally like the trophies, but i cant really think of anything else they could make all these different items/characters/levels into.
Any ideas?

Also, i hope they bring back "Board the platforms" that was totally awsome.

[Hylian-Advocate]

Well... ...I REALLY would like to believe all of this information. It sounds absolutly fantastic and if it were true, I wouldn't doubt for an instant that nintendo could regain the number 1 spot.

Even still, I am a big worrier and doubter.....I like to have cold hard facts......which is a good thing because I will be at E3 MUAHAHAHAAH

I am really intigued by the possabilities of Retro's new game...we know they are developing something for the REV because Reggie said so.....so even if this info is wrong on the details.....I cant wait to see what it's all about. ....I really hope it's truely at E3

and if those online implications become facts..... ......I will wet myself. I really am in a state of supreme anticipation and I hope that I will not be dissapointed.

[Glenn2K4]

just wow...if this info is TRUE, I will come running with my cold hard cash in Nintendo's direction. Great ideas, for sure.

*crosses fingers for it to be 100% true*

[linkgomez]

OMG i am so going 2 get a revolution i dont care if it costs $800

[Bloodman]

it will be $300 at most.

And outlaw, why have a hard drive? Memory cards work just as well. And I think Nintendo knows that if they dont include a hard drive then their mem card is going to have to be really good. Besides, hard drive is too expensive for me.

[C.J.]

Some of you folks are getting some pretty high hopes that the 360 will die. I wouldn't count on that. Not only because of the fact that the Xbox has such a strong userbase because of its target audience (What celebrity/adult male doesn't have one?), but because it's launching this year.

[Shade Valkyrie]

The reason why I'm so excited is because, unlike other rumours and speculation, this seems like something Nintendo could do!
It sounds realistic, and that developer was explaining this in such a way that it's hard not to belive he knows what he's talking about.

I don't think Nintendo would go with a built in harddrive though, MS learned the hard way that a built in harddrive wasn't such a smart move, you Xbox people can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think MS went with the possibility to switch your harddrive on the Xbox360 without the need to send in your whole system to them. If Nintendo will go with a harddrive it should be one you can hock up and from your system, not built into.

And yeah, the revolution won't kill the Xbox360 or PS3, but it may regain the top spot in sales and marked share.

[C.J.]

I wouldn't even count on that.

[fishbonetaher]

I am suing nintendo for stealing my super smash brothers ideas, the guy says here the following about super smahs brothers "A new Super Smash Bros. Melee is in the works as well.
This game will demonstrate the online functions of the Revolution.
Nintendo has added many new things into the game, included a deeper
combat system. Many more special moves are included as well as some
very cool suprises. The levels will include some destructible
environments, and the characters will be fully customizable. Want to
play as Mario in his 80’s outfit? Or would you prefer the 90’s look?
It’s your choice. The most innovative part of the game is the different
modes. In previous games, you were allowed to play in giant mode, metal
mode, small mode, etc. That has changed. You will be able to choose to
play in a “Paper” mode (a la Paper Mario), a cel shaded mode (Wind
Waker), or Viewtiful Joe-esque mode."

This is the letter i sent to nintendo a year ago, and posted it on the website about a year ago:
"If you like these ideas and if you believe that they
will be helpful for SSBM please use it:
1) same 2d style, but cel-shaded (such as viewtiful
joe)
2) Each character has his/her own adventure mode,
through his/her world. The advernture mode will be
more advance, it will be longer and after you finish
your world you move onto the next world (of a
different character)
3) There should be a main story (evil in the world,
you choose a hero (not baddy) and u go through
different worlds with the help of the hero of that
world (co-op or computer) to defeat the evil.
4) New bosses and worlds will be created
5) Each character gets a huge library of movies and
has the ability to custom which moves he/she wants.
Obvioulsy each different attack(up a,etc.) will have
its own roster of moves. If you like it can be that
you can put whatever move you want on which ever kind
of attack, BUT B ATTACKS CAN NOT BE USED TO SUBSTITUTE
THE A ATTACKS.
6) deffinitly online
7) more character (Obvious) + create totally new
characters
8) Viewtiful Joe should be added (but since it is
coming on the ps2, i don't think that he will be
added)
Please if it is possible, e-mail me back with an
opinion of what you think. I don't mind any criticism
at all, so criticize as much as you like."

I think i have a vlid case here,

anyways greate find can't wait till E3

[Bloodman]

Some of you folks are getting some pretty high hopes that the 360 will die. I wouldn't count on that. Not only because of the fact that the Xbox has such a strong userbase because of its target audience (What celebrity/adult male doesn't have one?), but because it's launching this year.


There is always a possibility. If Nintendo really doeas give it there all then there is gonna be a real battle.

[Shade Valkyrie]

I am suing nintendo for stealing my super smash brothers ideasThis is the letter i sent to nintendo a year ago, and posted it on the website about a year ago:
"If you like these ideas and if you believe that they
will be helpful for SSBM please use it:It's hard to prove that someone stole an idea for a game and even harder to prove stolen ideas for such details, especially when they can use your proofs against you. Belive me, you would get screwed. ;)

And what did you think when you asked about having Viewtiful Joe in SSB? He's not a Nintendo character, it's a Capcom game...

[fishbonetaher]

^ i know that, but back then viewtiful joe was a GC exclusive, so i thought oh i might as well dd him in there. And plus, i wasn't really going to sue them, atleast i don't think i was.

[Flamin Scotsman]

all i can say is re ask the week 6 pool of will you buy the rev for 500$ now... also add in, ill would sell my soul for the chance... i can predict whcih is going to have the most checks in it

[fishbonetaher]

knowing nintendo, they always try to sell the best hardware, but make the price consumer friendly. Look at the DS, it has two screens, wi-fi, touchscreen, michrophone, etc. and it is only 99 pounds, the revolution will not debut for more than $200 and i am pretty sure about that. Nintendo has already said it before, that it is going to make its prices for next-gen more customer friendly.

[Bloodman]

If anyone would care to read the blog that i did where all this info came from, you can see that this is a 50/50 true of false thing. Anyone can go there and post as him. If he's lying then he's a damn good lier by making page long posts for six days. I hope this is all true though.

He also said the revolutions start screen would be navigated by the tilt thingy.

[Flamin Scotsman]

the suspence is killing me.. i have more important things to worry about, like my a level exams and my future.. but they seem small in comparrison to nintendo potentially kickinh ps's ass and showing the world that they are stll and have always been the best

[linkgomez]

if any of this is true i might just buy the super pass for e3 for $550! maybe

[HereticPB]

He said that the online will be controlled by the gyroscope in the controller. Like those gyroscope mice that toohuman mentioned.

[OnBake Platinum]

Hey, guests, where did you guys comes from? Someone linked you to this thread, and we got 300+ guests isntantly, and it's totally pwning us. This thread has over 3000 views!

You should take this 'news' with a grain of salt, don't get all hyped up, or you will let yourself down!

Also consider registering...

[Skull Kid]

Holy shit!

[Kliq]

MESSAGE TO GUESTS: Register.

ON-TOPIC: Destructible levels in Smash Bros!

[Xer0]

Bah, i hate rumors and speculation, its always just a lil to good to be true. Still, Nintendo can do it, and i have my fingers crossed, E3 is almost upon us, we will see.

[Gilly]

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 273 (3 members and 270 guests)

^
That speaks for itself.

Kliq, you are a genius.

[Phoenix]

That would explain how slow the forums are loading. Register, guests!

[tonic]

What can I say, I rock.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v382/tonicStyles/ghests.jpg

[Kliq]

I don't think Nintendo would go with a built in harddrive though, MS learned the hard way that a built in harddrive wasn't such a smart move, you Xbox people can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think MS went with the possibility to switch your harddrive on the Xbox360 without the need to send in your whole system to them. If Nintendo will go with a harddrive it should be one you can hock up and from your system, not built into.

I don't think so.

On one of the leaked XBOX 360 pictures it had "40 GB" written on the side, which means the XBOX 360 will have a hard drive.

I would actually like one in the Revolution, I don't mind dishing out money for it. Act least make it a option.

And for god's sake, throw in the DVD playback to shut up all the fanboys.

[HereticPB]

Its pretty much over now. I think the original aries is done.

[OnBake Platinum]

There were over 500 guests viewing this thread at one time.

[Shade Valkyrie]

On one of the leaked XBOX 360 pictures it had "40 GB" written on the side, which means the XBOX 360 will have a hard drive.Yes, it will have a harddrive, I know that, but I think it will be a removable one rather than sending the whole system to service if you need to get a new harddrive.

Anyway, that guy keeps posting info it seems like and here is another intresting piece:

With respects to the Mario game, it is not Mario 128. Mario 128 is a Gamecube game, and it should be shown at E3 this year. The Mario game for the Revolution is still in development, and right now Miyamoto is just using it as a tech demo so to speak. There is a story and everything, but the game is far from finished. I think everyone will be very impressed by it.We'll be getting our Mario 128 on the GC!!
However, this probably means the Mario game on the revolution won't be a launch title...

[Kliq]

Nintendo already confirmed Mario 128 would be on Gamecube.

I don't really care if Mario isn't at launch for Revolution ... but for the sake of god ... NO LUIGI's MANSION 2. Or Nintendo is doomed.

And we still got 250+ guests in here.

[Bloodman]

i think mario will be a launch title. It has to be.

[linkgomez]

i want 2 go 2 e3!

[Kliq]

i think mario will be a launch title. It has to be.

Not really. As long as Super Smash Brothers is there (online ready) as well as some other first party and strong third party titles, Revolution will have a good launch.

[Bloodman]

E3 has to come@!@@

[HereticPB]

Your also forgetting Rev is backwards compatible so any GC game will be a launch game. Even Mario 128 or Zelda 2005.

[Shade Valkyrie]

More on the games:

As I mentioned many times, a new Wave Race is in development, and it should be at E3. Many people wrote off the Gamecube as a weak, baby console, but the Wave Race game on it proves that it is very capible. The water effects in that game are amazing; they still look very good today. With the new Zelda and the water in it, Nintendo is again showing how good they are at what they do. But I think this Wave Race is going to top everything out there in respects to graphics. It is going to be the GT of water racing games. You will be able to around in many different levels, all of which will sport many obstacles for the player. For instance, one early design I saw had a racer avoiding enormous cruise ships, which could destroy your speeder if you got too close to it.

One of the more interesting games I saw was a totally new IP. Outside of Geist, Nintendo has never really worked on a “mature” game. This all is going to change. They are working on a 3rd person action game that is very, very interesting. When Ninja Gaiden came out, I remember hearing that Aonuma was really into the game. I found this very interesting, but I didn’t take much interest into the story. Later, one of my co-workers showed me what he was working on. Nintendo, along with Hideo Kojima, are working on a futuristic action game. There is a reason why Kojima isn’t directing the next Metal Gear game. He’s been working with Nintendo on this game. In many ways, it reminded me of a apocolyptic, futuristic version of Zelda and Ninja Gaiden mixed. The earliest ideas I heard involved a cult of humans (humans are near extinction) who are menacing a cybernetic country. In the game, humans were almost wiped out by a race of higher beings, who then created cybernetic humans to take their place as rulers of the planet (not earth). The main character is one of the synthetic robots. Very, very interesting. I only got to see this one time, and I pray it will be at E3.

More later. I haven’t been getting the amount of sleep I thought I would during my break. I will talk about a couple more games later. I’ll also clear up some rumors floating around about Camelot and what they’re up to.I hope I won't be posting anything of those trying to impersonate him, but I'm good at filthrating peronalities and I'm sure this piece is from him as well (besides, I doubt a faker would bother to type so much).

[Bloodman]

I love waverace!

[HereticPB]

You can usually tell who is the real Aries. That's the real Aries. His written work is thought out and written very well.

Though some people are pretty good copies.

[Kliq]

Wave Race? Hmph, I dunno. Wave Race Blue Storm was too hard to be fun. Hopefully Nintendo can make this one fun.

Nice to see Nintendo isn't going to fall back in terms of graphics. Get Um' Nintendo.

And taht game that Kojima is working on = very interesting. I love the idea and storyline so far.

The good news keeps rolling in - I've already gone through four pair of pants :susp:

[Bloodman]

the blog is full of racists, so if you see "THE REVOLUTION IS GONNA BE BLACK PEOPLE PROOF" then its probably not by Aries.

[Shade Valkyrie]

After E3 I’m sure many people will dust off their DS’ and start getting excited. Like I said, Metroid Hunters and Mario Kart are very good games. NST gave people a mere glimpse into what they are doing with the Hunters demo. The final version will be very different and much better

As you know, Nintendo will release details on the online plans for the system. That will be very interesting.

Nintendo has three Mario games in development. One for the Gamecube, one for the Revolution, and one for the DS. Like I stated earlier, Mario 128 will be a Gamecube title. The Revolution game is early in development, but it will be shown at E3 in video form. Once Mario 128 is completed, I’m sure Miyamoto will go back to work on the Revolution followup.

Retro isn’t working on a new Metroid. The game I mentioned earlier will be their first Revolution title.They are also working on a DS game.

I can’t comment on the disk format, because that would give away far too much. All I’m going to say is that the disk format will play an interesting role in the “revolutionary” aspect of the console. The battery issue is also involved with this part of the console, so I won’t comment on that either.Some DS love as well. :)

The disk format and the wireless controll battery is secret and related to the revolutionary part of the console? I'm intrested - Totally!

Camelot is not working on a new Golden Sun game. They are not woring on the DS either. Before I left Nintendo, they began working on the Revolution. They are working on creating a new RPG to combat Final Fantasy, which is strange. Square Enix is working on an RPG for the Revolution’s launch, so I don’t think Camelot’s game will be a launch title. If Square Enix leaves Sony (which is not a big if), they could possibly rejoin with Nintendo. Or they could wind up with Microsoft, but I doubt that.We knew about this RPG, but I really wish they would make another Golden Sun as well. :(

That part about Square-Enix leaving Sony is a big Yay from me though. :D

[Bloodman]

damn, revolution seems to have more than one revolutionary aspect. Could the battery power for the wireless controlers be transmited through this air? I hope this is all true, unless nintendo has something better.

[Lynk Former]

The disk format has caught my attention...

EDIT: Transmitted battery power? Is that even possible? XD

[Bloodman]

i heard a rumor that game data was not gonna be a disk. Heard this one a long time ago though.

[OnBake Platinum]

Oh yeah, I kept forgetting to post this, but remember he said the mic headsets would be wireless? Then that means it would require a battery, which is hella ghey.

[Shade Valkyrie]

i heard a rumor that game data was not gonna be a disk. Heard this one a long time ago though.Yeah, in reply to Monkey C about talking about double sided disks (that are read by two lasers rotating while the disk are stuck) Aeries only said "You are very smart; that's all I'm going to say" in reply!

[OnBake Platinum]

2 lasers rotating? Wouldn't it be easier just to spin the disc?

[metal64]

Omg Omg Omg Omg *explodes*

[Puppet Master]

Could someone please give me a link to the blog?

[Bloodman]

damn, i fucking cant wait till E3

[Shade Valkyrie]

2 lasers rotating? Wouldn't it be easier just to spin the disc?Read for yourself.

hmmm I feel special cause your asking me a question now. haha

No but in all seriousness I read about this new disk stuff online somewhere. I dont have an exact source. But I know for a fact that I read that new disk drives comming out in the future would be able to read double sided disks and instead of having a disk spinnning while being read by the lens, companies were making it so that the lens would rotate around the disk. This would help bring disk reading speeds higher. This is because at a certain speed while the disk is rotating, it can start to damage itself due to the speed. Im not sure if what im saying is totally correct but it’s the basic concept about what I read.

And the reason im thinking that NIntendo maybe using this concept is because it’s planning to use dual sided disks for the Rev and for that to work, they would need a drive that would be able to read top and bottom at the same time…. this would need the machine to have two seperate lenses reading the information from top and bottom but at the same time the lens would rotate around the disk as both lenses would be reading two seperate pieces of information of the disk. Hence the disk does not move at all.

Sounds kinda crazy but I really have a feeling that this theory is sound.

Anyways what do you think? Is it possible for you to help me know if im correct on this or not? cuase i have a feeling im kinda close to what they’re doing which is why you cant really say anything but you havent really said that my theory earlier was wrong either so im thinking…

[HereticPB]

Its kind of pointless of going to the blog now as the spammers and racists have taken over!

But if you want to look
http://brokensaints.com/blog/?p=48

[Shade Valkyrie]

Ok, HereticPB beat me to it, but welcome to all you new guys regardless, lol. :)

Here is some more:

I’m not going to tell you what I do. I’ve given enough information about myself. I don’t plan on staying with this developer for long, to tell the truth.

I left Nintendo in 2004, but I never heard anything about a concrete launch date. From what I’m hearing now, Nintendo is watching Sony very closely. The Revolution will come out before the PS3, but I don’t know exactly when thay will happen. I am pretty sure that they will battle it out during the 2006 holiday season. That would give developers (including us) more than enough time. I can confirm that they will not be released before E3 of 2006. The Revolution won’t be on the E3 floor this year.

The portable Gamecube rumors are not credible at all. There is no “Gameboy Evolution”. I’m sure Nintendo has some plans for a new Gameboy, but it won’t be out any time soon.

[Puppet Master]

Thanks and even if the advanced voice recognition is true that'll just be awesome. With the gyroscopic controls would the Revolution be an RTS friendly system?

[Shade Valkyrie]

I will give you a hint to the revolutionary aspect of the system, but I won’t tell if you are right or wrong.

Hint: Begins with an S, ends with a T. Ten letters. Think about it.Any good crossword solvers around here? *sigh* What could that mean...

EDIT: That was from an imposter, blah... I felt a bit suspicous about that one, should have read a bit further before I posted, sorry.

[Bloodman]

that is a hard ass ridle.

[OnBake Platinum]

I'm thinking of a word that begins with B, ends with D. Six letters. Think about it.

[Kliq]

THey really spammed the mess out of that Blog - I hate idiots.

[Bloodman]

I'm thinking of a word that begins with B, ends with D. Six letters. Think about it.

no more puzzels!!! :mad:

[Shade Valkyrie]

I'm positive this one is the true Aries:

The next generation battle is going to be very intense. All three companies are pulling out all the stops in order to come out on top. I think the PS3 is going to win the battle though. It is always hard to bet against them. From what I’ve heard, the PS3 is alot closer to completion than many think. I have also heard that it is rather hard to develop for in many ways. Although Sony isn’t forcing developers to implement certain components into their games (like Microsoft is), the system development process has a long learning curve. In the end, I don’t think this is going to stop larger publishers like EA and Square Enix from making games for them. Obviously, I don’t have too many concrete details on the system. I do know that it is a very powerful system; it will be more powerful than the other two.

Nintendo is really doing something special with the Revolution. This is a system that will appeal to all gamers, and developers will find it pretty easy to work on. I think it is going to be very successful, especially in Japan. The Gamecube has been a failure over seas. The Revolution should do much better, mainly due to the fact that it will correct many of the mistakes made this generation. There will not be a sub par Luigi game at launch. The system isn’t going to resemble a purple lunch box either. But in my mind 3rd party suport was the biggest reason the Gamecube failed. I don’t see any reason why developers would shun the Revolution. If it is able to sell, it will be supported. Like I said earlier, it will have the greatest launch titles ever seen on a console.I don’t know anything about Earthbound. Many people are hoping for another game in this series. The same can be said of Kid Icarus. There is a lot of mystery surrounded both series. But, I have no information that would make me think that sequels are in development.

Anyone: When I first joined the studio I currently work at, we had just begun developing for the Nintendo Revolution. We recieved development kits early, but it took Nintendo a while to get us the controller details. That’s why I doubt it will be shown at E3. They have been trying to keep it under wraps for a long time now. It did not have different capabilities previous to the ones it has now. Like I said, it has gyroscopic and pressure sensitve controls. It never had touch screen controls; Game Informer wrote a very misleading artile on this aspect of the system. I will once again verify that the controller will be wireless. Microsoft stole this idea from Nintendo.

Like I said earlier, Nintendo is watching Sony very closely. They do not think that the Xbox 360 is going to be a competitor next generation. As many of you have probally heard, Microsoft is going to launch the Xbox 360 in November. Nintendo has plans on releasing the new Zelda game on whatever date Microsoft chooses. I have also heard rumors that Sony is planning on doing something similar. Apparantly, they are going to release Final Fantasy 12 in Japan to combat the Xbox 360 launch. I actually think there is some truth behind this rumor, but I could be wrong. I think Nintendo is making a mistake by not taking the Xbox 360 seriously.

[OnBake Platinum]

So 360 will be the weakest and PS3 the strongest? Wow, they just swapped positions. Meanwhile Nintendo is still in the middle...

[WadeTyhon]

Heh, seems like half the board is viewing this topic.

I'm very very very optomistic after reading the flurry of posts by this guy, and it sounds much more believable than Brooke Burgess. (that his name?) But I'm also a little discouraged that no one will be able to get a hands-on experience with it at E3.

I just wish they'd do like they did when they revealed the DS, having the system on display with various tech demos, but no actual games. Just so we can get a feel of the new controller, y'know?

Granted, I can understand their paranoia. If I were a high-rank Microsoft employee, and was pit before this type of competition, I'd definately steal some of the ideas in order to keep my job.

[Kliq]

The Gamecube purple lunchbox look was a huge turnoff, I know that for a fact. So many people didn't buy it simply cus it was purple (casual retard gamers, that is).

[Bloodman]

If this is true then i can see nintendo taking first place.

[HereticPB]

2 weeks and about 5 days till Nintendo's conference!

[#1MarioFan]

Console developers sure are more aggressive than they used to be. Zelda and FF12 on the launch of Xbox 360. Halo three on launch of PS3. Ovcourse they're all rumors. It is this kind of stuff that propells the industry.

[Shade Valkyrie]

People are so f*cking imature (refering to the spammers and imposters at the blog)!

Seriously, it takes a lot to piss me off, but seeing stuff like that just makes me so... GRRRRRR!!

[GamerDude]

wow e3 will be great. im so pumped for revolution(i need to get a job at gamestop for cash)

but i need to keep focused on school work until then.

[OutlawAdidas]

I think that they will use Floppy disks, 10 gb floppy disks ;)

[GamerDude]

yeah right.

i think they will use mini or regular disks

[Snarkey]

SHIT! This is more amazingly amazing than the before posts about the "Falcon" controller thing that you can really feel.

[Hylian-Advocate]

Wow....the blog is totally overun by that bastard who is racist. He force Aries to stop posting till tommorow.....


by the way... Heretic....and Shade...I saw your posts :)

[bobo_ess]

holy shat there is alot of people on this thread....This keep s getting more interesting...

[OnBake Platinum]

Everyone should stop getting hyped up. This might be all fake. You don't want to be disappointed by the real revolution do you?

[Lynk Former]

There's a 50/50 chance of it being true, we'll know when E3 comes around, but if it is all bullshit then what did we lose other than a simple fantasy?

In the end Zelda 2005 is coming so I win either way :D

[bobo_ess]

really though

[Teh Roxor!]

Originally Posted by Aries (April 27th, 2005 at 3:06 pm)
I don’t know anything about Earthbound. Many people are hoping for another game in this series. The same can be said of Kid Icarus. There is a lot of mystery surrounded both series. But, I have no information that would make me think that sequels are in development.

Sadness fills me.

...however, this contradicts the fact that Mother 3 has supposedly been in developement for GBA.

[Hylian-Advocate]

I just hope that even if this stuff is false.. ....that the launch actuall IS the best in history and that the revolution online is actually kick ass

[Rabunis]

These are juicy tidbits of info. My revolution speculation whistle has been wetted.

[nanika]

crazy.........*in love*

[Hylian-Advocate]

lol..... brooke posted that Aries probably was a fake and made a new forum that he could monitor alot better.... hope none of you get dissapointed!

http://s11.invisionfree.com/Broken_Saints_Realm/index.php?act=idx

I for one just like reading this kinda stuff.... ....even if alot of it turns out to be false, it sometimes just fun to think or the possabilities. So as many have said, do not get your hopes up on anything you read until it come out of Nintendo's mouth!!!!

Of course..this Admin guy could be a complete fake too!!!! hehe

[Shade Valkyrie]

Brooke did not think he's a developer because of his adress\IP or something leading to a bank or something, but stuff like that are not accurate to say the least, and Aries denied that he was posting from anywhere near a bank, it's just he's words though, but he never admitted to being a lier, that response was from an imposter.

[Lynk Former]

Well most of what was said is possible and not too far fetched, it does sounds pretty big though since no one has tried it before but it is achievable. Personally, I don't give a rat’s ass about all the bickering that was going on in their about who's right, who's lying, who's impersonating who. What was written is an example of the kind of thing that is very possible. There is a chance of it seeing as the next generation will greatly surpass this generation in terms of innovation if the cards are played right. At this point, E3 is where we are all looking towards for our answers and maybe a little bit of the truth of what's really going on.

[Flamin Scotsman]

arg

[Flamin Scotsman]

hrm, it could be possible if the game managed to create some sort of electromagnetic field, if they make one strong enough with pick ups, perhaps they could create an emf between two rods of some sort...highly theoretical of cource...
im so gutted about golden sun...if the rpg isnt called silver mon, and about a paralel golden sun world... im kicking some ass

[Bloodman]

Okay, seeing as there is thousands of people trying to immitate Aries I would suggest you guys dont read any more into this. Leave this thread for your own sanity. If this is all fake the mabey by the time E3 rolls around we can actually get some sleep and have forgotten about this.

Yes, this is all highly believable and all makes sence but then again, there are really good liers ot there. And some of you may be thinking "But he wrote atleast 12 pages on it, no "lier" would do that!". Good point, who would? Someone who is really determined to trick you.

Im not saying I dont believe this, for Gods sakes I hope it's true. But I just dont want to see any of you get pumped up only to be dissapointed later on. This guy may be from Sony trying to dissapoint you so you can buy their system.

[Shade Valkyrie]

This guy may be from Sony trying to dissapoint you so you can buy their system.That's another thing why I belive him, no Sony or Xbox fanboy could possibly have that much knowledge about Nintendos personality and thinking to make something this beliveable, heck not many N-fans even could, and a sane NIntendo fan would usually not mock their own breed.

Not to mention that not everything he said was positive, he mentioned things some N-fans would find disapointing as well, like that stuff with Earthbound...

The truth is often harder to belive than a lie, but I suggest we all wait until E3 as you said Bloodman.

But I do keep one thing in mind from what Aries said, and I suggest everyone else do that as well, don't belive everything you see and hear from media and Nintendo the comming weeks and first days of E3, they may try to mess with us all before they reveal the Revolution.

[fishbonetaher]

I will now provide proof that what this Aeries guy is saying is a fake, he told very good lies and left no trails behind him except 1, and that is square-enix, he says in one of his first posts:

[I don’t have details on what game Squaresoft is working on. I know that it will be at E3 along with Final Fantasy 3 and FF:CC for the DS.]

and then he says later on,
[Camelot is not working on a new Golden Sun game. They are not woring on the DS either. Before I left Nintendo, they began working on the Revolution. They are working on creating a new RPG to combat Final Fantasy, which is strange. Square Enix is working on an RPG for the Revolution’s launch, so I don’t think Camelot’s game will be a launch title.].

He obviously forgot that he said he didn't know what square-enix was working on for the revolution, then he later on says that they are working on an rpg. But i thought he didn't know what they were working on???

And plus one thing he forgets to say is which studio he works for, which makes me belief there is no studio.

As much as i want a lot of his theories to be true, i think he is a fake. And i think this is enough evidence to prove so.

[SuperLuigiBros]

1. All he knows about Square Enix is that they are developing an RPG that is all. He doesnt know what they are working on, it could be a final fantasy game or something completely new.

2. He wouldnt want to give away who he is (where he works) so he doesnt get into trouble.

[GamerDude]

i wont be disapointed, but i do beleive it.

like shade said "The truth is often harder to belive than a lie" the reason thats true is because this sounds so real. plus no guy is gonna go to all that work for somthing fake and he didnt even reveal the real revolution.

some people are just party poopers

[Bloodman]

I will now provide proof that what this Aeries guy is saying is a fake, he told very good lies and left no trails behind him except 1, and that is square-enix, he says in one of his first posts:

[I don’t have details on what game Squaresoft is working on. I know that it will be at E3 along with Final Fantasy 3 and FF:CC for the DS.]

and then he says later on,
[Camelot is not working on a new Golden Sun game. They are not woring on the DS either. Before I left Nintendo, they began working on the Revolution. They are working on creating a new RPG to combat Final Fantasy, which is strange. Square Enix is working on an RPG for the Revolution’s launch, so I don’t think Camelot’s game will be a launch title.].

He obviously forgot that he said he didn't know what square-enix was working on for the revolution, then he later on says that they are working on an rpg. But i thought he didn't know what they were working on???

And plus one thing he forgets to say is which studio he works for, which makes me belief there is no studio.

As much as i want a lot of his theories to be true, i think he is a fake. And i think this is enough evidence to prove so.


squar enix only makes rpgs...

[SockHyren]

*Cannot Speak because his jaw is currently sitting on the ground.*

[Bloodman]

Has anyone solved the puzzle? It begins with s and ends with t and is ten letters long.

[Kliq]

Im beginning to doubt this stuff only because I don't want to be hyped up going into E3 and than end up dissapointed.

But I do have faith in good ole' Nintendo.

[Shade Valkyrie]

Bloodman, I updated my post, that riddle was posted by an imposter, sorry, my mistake.

He obviously forgot that he said he didn't know what square-enix was working on for the revolution, then he later on says that they are working on an rpg. But i thought he didn't know what they were working on??? Well, if he know Square-Enix is making a game for the revolution like he obviously do in the first statement, then it's not so strange that he could know the genre of the game as well. Knowing the genre of a game doesn't mean he knows what kind of game they really are making though, like if it's going to be a new FF game, Tactics game, CC game or something else.

And plus one thing he forgets to say is which studio he works for, which makes me belief there is no studio.He repeated that several times in the blog, a reason that are quite obvious too, he won't be revealing informative pieces that would make it possible to track his identity - it could cost him his job!

[Bloodman]

If he loses his job he'll have to go back and teach science.

[Crosman]

Good mighty jesus.


Had to show me this didnt you.

[Hylian-Advocate]

well.....what about THIS guys and gals:

http://forums.warppipe.com/viewtopic.php?t=17803&highlight=revolution

[HereticPB]

I read that on the blog but since by that time there were so many imposters and spammers I ignored it and read on.

[Bloodman]

Uhg, This Is Driving Me Insane! I Cant Sleep Now!

[Serene Samus]

Well that kinda sucks.

[Kliq]

For some odd reason I think I'm going to be a bit upset at E3.

Fug it, not more hyping myself until E3 gets here.

[Shade Valkyrie]

well.....what about THIS guys and gals:

http://forums.warppipe.com/viewtopic.php?t=17803&highlight=revolutionIt was that post I was reffering to where an imposter pretended Aries admited fakenes...

The real Aries kept posting a little while after that and was still insisting he was not lying.
In fact, he have started posting again today, yay!

I didn’t know a new PunchOut was in development. Are you sure? If they just filed a patent for it, I have no concrete information on the game. I would be willing to bet that it will be a Gamecube game though. Nintendo has done a bad job of releasing software for the Gamecube throughout the year, but the holiday lineup should be very impressive. Zelda alone justifies the purchase of one.

I have met Miyamoto a few times as well. As I’m sure you know, he doesn’t work in Washington; he’s busy at EAD. I have never seen Miyamoto smoke, but obviously I don’t know him personally. I don’t see how me knowing that detail would prove/disprove my credibility.

You already know what the Xbpx 360 development kit looks like.

Microsoft isn’t going to “buy” Nintendo anytime soon. There is a huge misconception about Nintendo’s financial standings. Despite the Gamecube’s poor preformance, Nintendo has never had a problem posting a quarterly profit. On the other hand, Microsoft has only posted one quarterly profit off the Xbox. They are losing hundreds of dollars for every Xbox sold. That isn’t new information.

All I know about Square Enix’s project is that it will be an RPG. I have no other details on it.

I do not work for Silicon Knights, and I am not female. I don’t know how those misconceptions came about.That was his first post for today as a clear proof that "his" post yesterday about admitting he was fake was from an imposter.

And Fishbone, he explains in this post that he knows the genre of the Square-Enix game, but not anything else - backing up my claim that he did not really blow it.

Ok, here is another one:

superdouche: I have answered that question many times. By signing up for a message board, I would risk being exposed. I am not going to share any personal information on a message board. It’s quite easy to tell when someone is impersonating me.

N-Zero: The controller will have a similar design to the Gamecube one, but there will be more functions. The pressure sensitive controls are located on the each of the controller’s handles (right under the L and R shoulder buttons). The buttons, analog stick, and c-stick will be mapped on the front of the controller, similar to the way it is found on the Gamecube controller. The gyroscopic functionality will be located where the wire is on the Gamecube’s controller. There is another function on the controller, but I am not going to reveal it. I have given my reason for this before.

Cool Guy: I left Nintendo for personal issues. I didn’t expect to work in the gaming business again, but my current employer convinced me otherwiese. The gaming industry is a very exciting world, but most people cannot imagine the level of work and hours that is put into it. I am on break this week, but on Monday I’ll be going back. We are trying to gear up for E3.

I’m sure many gaming journalists would even tell you that covering E3 isn’t as fun as many believe it to be. There is a lot of work and running around to do.Great to know, the Revolution controller will be like a Gamecube controller with more input features, just like I suspected it would be. :)

That would mean there would be no need to use GC controllers to play GC games on the Revolution. - And if you think about it, that makes sense, personally I don't think the idea of hocking up a GC controller to make use of the backwards compatibility would have worked in practice for several reasons.

[Serene Samus]

Does this mean it's true?

[Shade Valkyrie]

It means he has neither been proven or admited to be fake yet, there could always be a chance he is fake still though - but belive what you want, we will know for sure after E3.

Paladin: It won’t use AAA batteries. Like I said yesterday, I will not reveal any information on the battery or disk format because they both play a role in the “revolutionary” aspect of the system.

Once again, I’d like to apologize to Brooke for the hectic traffic and spamming his site has been receiving this week. I didn’t expect so many spammers and hackers to pay attention to this.

Moz: You are very correct. This is always an exciting time for gamers, but journalists and developers are the ones who work hard to make it exciting. Last year everyone was blown away by the new Zelda, Splinter Cell, and Resident Evil 4. The DS and PSP were also impressive. This year is going to be even better. All three systems will be revealed (in one way or another), and some great games are going to keep everyone busy. I can’t wait to see what some of my favorite developers are working on. Perfect Dark 0 is going to be very interesting, and I can’t wait to play around with Final Fantasy 12. But, like I said earlier, Nintendo is going to steal the show. The Revolution isn’t the only show stopper they have up their sleeves.Like I said earlier, I have not posted any specs. They are not that important.

Paladin: I don’t really find the “revolutionary” part of the system to be that innovative. It makes games easier to play, but all the Revolution’s functions do that. I really think Nintendo throws around the words “revolutionary” and “innovation” too much. A perfect example would be Mario 128. It is basically just a better version of Mario 64, and Miyamoto added some interesting camera schemes as well as some other cool funtions. That’s it, unless they totally revamped the game after I left. It will be an amazing game, but I don’t see any developer’s “stealing” the ideas. With the Revolution, other companies might take some of Nintendo’s ideas; Microsoft has already done this.As long as we get a decent Mario platformer I will be in heaven, I want to feel like I'm playing a real Mario platformer not some random ultimate washing adventure!

[Kliq]

"The Revolution isn’t the only show stopper they have up their sleeves."

Next Game Boy?

[HereticPB]

Why does he keep saying Majesto its Majesco!

[Shade Valkyrie]

And his final post so far today, he'll be back after IGN have updated the Nintendo minute:

Cool guy: How do you know I actually develop games? There is more than one way to work on a game. I am not going to give out any information that could put my job at risk.

Bloodman: We do not have actual Revolution consoles; we have development kits. When I worked at Nintendo, I never heard anything about USB ports. The early designs of the system did noy have them either.

That’s all the information I’ll give for now. I won’t be back today until Brooke’s next article is posted on IGN. If it isn’t posted, I’ll just come back after the Nintendo Minute is posted later today. Talk to you soon.

[Bloodman]

No, I Only Post Here, On Nnow! Im Not A Traitor! I Swear! Dont Burn Me!!!

[Phoenix]

*Burns Bloodman*

BURN THE WITCHES!

[HereticPB]

Ok guys/girls I have something to say. I have been thinking and using clues from the blog and I seem to think this guy is Dennis Dyack from Silicon Knights. It seems to fit very well.

[Teh Roxor!]

squar enix only makes rpgs...
Hate to be a prick, but...

The first game ever made by Squaresoft was Rad Racer. And they even made a sequel. And that's not the only deviation from their RPG norm. (Bust a Groove? ;))

As for Enix, how about Actraiser?

[OutlawAdidas]

Maybe they throw around the word Revolution and Innovative to much but still, its something new to the industry or to the customers so I'll classify it as innovative

[HereticPB]

Bloodman is right Square Enix only makes RPGS. They started with other games yes but all they do now is RPGs now. They never come up with anything new.

[fishbonetaher]

dont' they have a mech. game that came out a couple of months ago?

edit: valyrie can you post the link from which you are getting all of this info.

[Flamin Scotsman]

i was sure i heard that the ds is not connecting with the rev

[fishbonetaher]

^ heard the samething as well.

[Kliq]

Ok guys/girls I have something to say. I have been thinking and using clues from the blog and I seem to think this guy is Dennis Dyack from Silicon Knights. It seems to fit very well.

Big D? Hmm, that would be interesting. Could it be? And could he get in trouble if exposed?

[Shade Valkyrie]

edit: valyrie can you post the link from which you are getting all of this info.Sure, it's already been posted a dozend times, but here you go: Touch Me! (http://brokensaints.com/blog/?p=48)

Anyway, I myself can't remember any quote from Nintendo that they won't be using handheld to console connectivity again, care to quote that anyone?

I myself will find it weird if they don't - Pokemon stadium\colloseum or Pokemon DX basically requires a console to handheld link-up and I doubt Nintendo will stop making those games next generation; especially now when the two machines can communicate through Wi-Fi.

[Bloodman]

i heard that there would be no DS connectitvity but there would be GBE connectivity.

[koten]

Sure, it's already been posted a dozend times, but here you go: Touch Me! (http://brokensaints.com/blog/?p=48)

*touches Shade*

[Shade Valkyrie]

Perhaps they meant it in some other way, that it would not be any DS\Revolution connection the same way it's between GBA and GC. - If I could see the exact quote I could see what they really ment.

Here is more from Aries:
Lostlegend: One word to describe the “revolutionary” aspect of the system? I already have used the word “simple” to describe it, so I’ll use another one. Evolution. And I am not using the word in the sense that games will be able to grow or anything like that, as SnsoryOverload suggested. I am using it in the sense that the Revolution will use a function that is just the logical evolution of interactive media. When you see it you will understand what I mean. It isn’t going to be anything totally alien to the average person.Intresting, perhaps he means the Revolution will make use of what is considered to be the next evolution in interactive media, Artificial Intelligence, will we be able to talk to our system? Like tell it to reset and so on?

*touches Shade*Wheeeee. :D

Anyway, here's more quotes:

OJ: A couple months ago, Microsoft announced a deal with Mistwalker that will have the developer make two Xbox 360 games in the future. Look for Nintendo to announce some similar deals in the future. Gamespy mentioned awhile ago that some interesting partnerships are going to be announced at E3. Wait and see.

Word Assassin: I agree with you. I was disappointed with Super Mario Sunshine, mainly because Nintendo hasn’t made a “real” Mario game in so long. I think Mario 128 is going to please a lot of people. As you already know, the game has been in development for a very long time. It could have been shown at E3 2004 in video form like the Zelda game, but Nintendo chose not to. I really don’t understand that. I think Miyamoto has hyped this game too much. Developers are not going to steal anything from this. In my opinion, Mario 128 will be a great game; it will include many older features that were not in Mario 64. But, like I said, it isn’t going to be the “innovative” work of genius some think it will be.Lostlegend: As Reggie has said before, Nintendo will be creating some new IP’s for the Revolution. For instance, Camelot’s new game will be totally original; it will not be another Golden Sun. Retro is also working on a new game. These are smart moves in my opinion. Outside of Pikmin, there weren’t any new gaming series introduced on the Gamecube. I was really disappointed in this. For instance, I’m sure you all are familiar with the whole Star Fox Adventures fiasco. It was originally supposed to be a new, original game, but Nintendo pressured Rare to turn it into a Star Fox game. The end result was not really imressive.Dam0: The wireless controller function was stolen from Nintendo; believe me on that. There is a reason why Nintendo rarely makes positive statements avout Microsoft. They don’t even think the Xbox 360 will be competitive.

Terrin: From what I heard while working at Nintendo, the next Pokemon game will be a true RPG. At one time, there was discussion on actually having it cel shaded. This idea was dropped, obviously; I’m sure you’ve seen pics from the game by now. I can’t wait to see what happened to this game. It wil be very different from the GBA versions in the sense that it will have many RPG mechanics; I’m sure we’ll see some interesting mini games as well. Although I think it will be a good game, I’m sure it won’t be the best Pokemon game released this year (in Japan, at least).

I mentioned many details on Super Smash Brothers already. It will include online play as well as many different play modes. You will be able to change the graphical presention to a paper theme (Paper Mario) as well as a cel shaded theme (Wind Waker and Viewtiful Joe). The combat system will also be increased.

[fishbonetaher]

can someone clear up what is happening with this whole burgess and aries fiasco. Is the forum that was created 2 nights ago i think, which said that we should go to sleep because the next day ign are releasing an article on the revolution, was that made by a hacker or was it fake. If real, were there some burgess and aries impersonaters. Is everything said on brokensaints website by aries coming from aries himself, or is part of it from that person claiming that he was imporsinating him.

What the heck is happening?

aries also said that after nintnedo update the nintendo minuite they will be posting an article on the revolution which was supposed to come out yesterday, where is that article? or was that said and made by the aries imporsinator.

[Bloodman]

it was said by an imposter.

[Shade Valkyrie]

Yes, it was the real Aries who said he would be back after the Nintendo minute, and that feature was updated yesterday like it should. Read the Nintendo minute here (http://cube.ign.com/articles/608/608635p1.html)

He came back for a while like he said after that feature was posted. He went to bed after that and hopefully he will be back posting more later today.

Yes, there was a lot of impersonators and shit some days ago, luckily it seems most of those impersonators have grown bored by now. :)

Obviously, the real Aries is still around answering peoples questions, I got a nice talent when it comes to see a persons personality from their typing and if you don't have any such ability that stuff is really chaotic.

But just stick to this thread, I'll keep posting those posts from the real Aries whenever there is even a slight piece of new info.

[tonic]

One of those posts that you quoted was really mine.
I guess I just have a talent for emulating people's personalities through text...

[Bloodman]

One of those posts that you quoted was really mine.
I guess I just have a talent for emulating people's personalities through text...

ok, time to die:)

[koten]

^Threatening staff...

BANNED!

[Shade Valkyrie]

One of those posts that you quoted was really mine.
I guess I just have a talent for emulating people's personalities through text...What post was it? I was doing some of this posting while I was growing quite tirred and could always had an imposter or two slip past my judgement...

And I have edited one quote already because I realised that was from an imposter, even though I'm a girl, I'm still not quite a super-human. ;)

I just post what I find intresting and think is from the real Aries, so that other people won't need to wade through that chaos of 2000+ posts (all on one page too).

Oh wait, perhaps this one was by you tonic?

I’ve just been informed by a source, who’s name i cannot reveal, that Majesto will not be making a RPG for revolution after all. They have had sever problems with the dev-kit, which ofcourse is a fact I connot believe.

Here is one more feature which the revolution will take advantage of; RevolutionS connection (WiFi ofcourse) Much like the connection between GC:GBA used in FinalFantasy-CC, where the GBA works as a controller. DS game to Revolution game connection will not be present at anytime due to some quite old Nintendo agreements.

More to come in the next couple of days. Rest assured.When I read it now (not being in the middle of the night for me) I think that post sounds very imposterish out.

I guess DS to Revolution connectivity could be a no-no next generation anyway then.

[fishbonetaher]

wasn't there supposed to be an aricle published by IGN that reveals info. on the revolution by yesterday.

[Shade Valkyrie]

No, it was an imposter who said that (it was not just Aries that had his nick stolen by others)

[HereticPB]

off-topic: Shade what is my personality? Hehe

[Shade Valkyrie]

HereticPB, I won't answer that, sorry, but everyone got a written personality and ID, I notice things like that instinctively while for others text is just plain text whoever that have written it.

I myself always type "lol", "lmao" and "rofl" rather than "haha" or "hihi". That's one type of written ID.

Written personality could be how a person express themself, whether the text is written in a more careful or more "agressive" way, I myself think my written personality is "bitchy", so obviously your written persoanlity could be different than your real personality (in real life I'm an angel, honestly!).

Anyway, here's an intresting piece from Aries:

Foster: I don’t understand why people are so fixated on the “Game Boy Evolution”. The DS is going to be around for a very long time. I’m sure Nintendo has talked about the next Game Boy, and I would be willing to bet that they have some ideas written down. But I also bet that it won’t be discussed at E3 unless a journalist brings it up.

The DS is going to have a very goof E3 showing. The promise of free online play for Metroid Hunters, Pokemon, Animal Crossing, and Mario Kart is enough to convince me to keep my DS.Pokemon is going to be Online! Yay!!

[Rabunis]

The DS is going to have a very goof E3 showing
omfg megaton disney is coming to DS

[koten]

HereticPB, I won't answer that, sorry, but everyone got a written personality and ID, I notice things like that instinctively while for others text is just plain text whoever that have written it.

I myself always type "lol", "lmao" and "rofl" rather than "haha" or "hihi". That's one type of written ID.

Written personality could be how a person express themself, whether the text is written in a more careful or more "agressive" way, I myself think my written personality is "bitchy", so obviously your written persoanlity could be different than your real personality (in real life I'm an angel, honestly!).

Is that how you figured me out so fast?

PM me with the details of my personality. I'm curious now.

[Phoenix]

Roffle.

[Bloodman]

if pokemon DS is going online then I'm getting it!

[Cofey]

[The next Super Smash Bros.] will include some different characters. Some of the older characters will will not be in this one; Falco isn’t going to be in it. The only new characters I have heard about are Krystal (from Star Fox) and Pit (from Kid Icarus). The inclusion of Pit is very interesting to me. Would Nintendo actually bring back a series this old? We’ll see. I have no information on a new game in the series though.

You know, part of me wants to, and I think really does believe Aries is for real. But there's a nagging doubt at the back of my mind. Although I must say, everything he's said so far, if true, is going to blow me away when I actually see it.

In regards to this quote, I'm pissed that Krystal could be a new SSB character, as I don't like SFA. But I'm glad they've realized they can ditch some characters. Falco is not needed, and neither is Dr. Mario, and I'd LOVE to see Pichu and Jigglypuff go. Luigi definitely needs to stray more from Mario's move set and get his own. There are basically 3 Marios in SSB:M. That's two too many.

[fishbonetaher]

there is one thing i don't understand about the DS, and that is:

if the Ds is the 3rd nintnedo pillar, where exactly is it going to end up. Are there next-gen ds's, because as far as i'm concerned the ds is the new gameboy with innovative features. I think nintendo's claims that the DS is not a gameboy for mere marketing reasons, in order for people not to compare the mighty gameboy with the powerful psp.

[Phoenix]

You know, part of me wants to, and I think really does believe Aries is for real. But there's a nagging doubt at the back of my mind. Although I must say, everything he's said so far, if true, is going to blow me away when I actually see it.

In regards to this quote, I'm pissed that Krystal could be a new SSB character, as I don't like SFA. But I'm glad they've realized they can ditch some characters. Falco is not needed, and neither is Dr. Mario, and I'd LOVE to see Pichu and Jigglypuff go. Luigi definitely needs to stray more from Mario's move set and get his own. There are basically 3 Marios in SSB:M. That's two too many.Why would Jigglypuff go? Why would you even consider her on the same level as Pichu?

I think Krystal would be a good addition. Sure she's in a crappy game, but that's not her fault. Falco is definately needed, because a lot of people (such as myself) prefer him over Fox. The guy who could very easily be the best player in the world uses Falco. A lot of people don't understand that "clones" are their own characters. When you get good enough, you can't just transfer your playing style over between them.

I really don't believe that they would remove characters. I'm not sure that's the real Aries.

[OutlawAdidas]

Jigglypuff is awesome, ten times better than Pikachu. Falco owns fox but shiek owns falco

[fishbonetaher]

i am a master at jigglypuff, and that is something which i hold with pride, not alot of players can use jigglypuff, atleast non from what i have seen, and i can defeat practically anyone with jigglypuff. I have also master the down B move, which makes it an added bonus for me.

[Cofey]

Jigglypuff may be a good character, but I just can't stand her. Maybe I'm just being anal.

Falco and the rest of the clones are ok, but they need their own moves. They need to have at least slight variations, like Luigi and Mario. I'm a master with Link, and I can dominate anybody with him. But Young Link is the same damn character. He's not needed. Why have 2?

You want to know what I think they should do? Keep the clones, but give them all their own move sets. If they have some moves in common that's fine. But make them unique (don't tell me they already are, I've heard it before, that's not the way I mean it). They should keep Link as the mature version and change Young Link to WW Link or something. Give him a different arsenal. Fire Arrows is a start I suppose. But what about the grappling hook? Or the Deku Leaf? Just some ideas.

Kill Pichu, I don't ever want to see him again. I suppose Jigglypuff can stay, she is a unique character and contributes to the game. I just don't like her personally.

I have so many ideas that I think would make a new SSB game so much better than Melee, as I'm sure everyone here does. It gets me excited talking about this. But I digress; that's not a topic for this thread.

*Runs to play SSBM*

[Bloodman]

There better be sheik or something......bad......is gonna happen......

[Shade Valkyrie]

I think it's great that they'll add Krystal to SSB, it's always to few female characters to chose between in Nintendos games and Krystal is a perfect addition in that regard.

I do hope they keep Ganondorf though, I'm not good with Falcon, but own with Ganondorf!

Well, I used to be really good with Luigi too, but oh well.

[OnBake Platinum]

If Falco is in it (Which he probably is) he probably has different moves than before so it doesn't really matter. You just have to find 'your' character again.

[Cofey]

I was just messing around with Young Link....and for the first time I'm starting to see what you people mean about the clones. Link has been "my character" since the original, but Young Link is great because he's a lot faster, and that helps a lot. And when you think about it, Ken and Ryu were the same too, and that never bothered me.

I guess the thing is, I'm afraid they'll add so many clones and not too many original characters. We need new original fighters too. I want the next game to be massive. I want at least 50 fighters. They could do it easily, Nintendo has plenty of characters. And more levels too. A lot more.

When they finally release an online Smash Bros. title, we should organize a tournament. They go up to 64 fighters in SSBM right? Have like an official NNow Smash Bros. competition. I'm getting so pumped....yet it's still at least a year away :(

[fishbonetaher]

i myself don't try to restrict myself to one character, i like to have different characters which i have mastered, especially the tough ones which a lot of players don't seem to like to use, because their moves don't seem to be very powerful, when in matter of fact they are the most powerful moves in the game. My list of characters which i have mastered are:

mario, link, jigglypuff, falco and fox (the diffference is speed, the front A attack, and jump which allows different combo variations), ness, ganondorft, captain falcon, and the ice climbers.

but because my GC got stolen and the lack of competitors, if i were to use any of these characters today, i would most probably get my ass kicked.

[OutlawAdidas]

Oh shit, I got the perfect pokemon for the next SSB game. Scyther.

They also need a koope or something.

Sheik, Luigi, jigglypuff owns.

[Phoenix]

Jigglypuff may be a good character, but I just can't stand her. Maybe I'm just being anal.

Falco and the rest of the clones are ok, but they need their own moves. They need to have at least slight variations, like Luigi and Mario. I'm a master with Link, and I can dominate anybody with him. But Young Link is the same damn character. He's not needed. Why have 2?

You want to know what I think they should do? Keep the clones, but give them all their own move sets. If they have some moves in common that's fine. But make them unique (don't tell me they already are, I've heard it before, that's not the way I mean it). They should keep Link as the mature version and change Young Link to WW Link or something. Give him a different arsenal. Fire Arrows is a start I suppose. But what about the grappling hook? Or the Deku Leaf? Just some ideas.

Kill Pichu, I don't ever want to see him again. I suppose Jigglypuff can stay, she is a unique character and contributes to the game. I just don't like her personally.

I have so many ideas that I think would make a new SSB game so much better than Melee, as I'm sure everyone here does. It gets me excited talking about this. But I digress; that's not a topic for this thread.

*Runs to play SSBM*Just so you know, if you really could own anyone, you would not be seeing much progress with your ability if you use Link. His potential is mediocre.

Young Link is actually the least "cloney" clone besides Luigi. That doesn't stop him from being average, though.

Pichu is the only character who has no purpose. 99% of the experts proclaim Bowser as the worst character in the game, but at least he beats other characters in one tiny way. Pikachu > Pichu in every way except running speed. They still shouldn't remove him, they should just make him better. Give him more punch if he's going to hurt himself.

[Cofey]

I use Link as my main fighter, but I'm also good with DK, Mario, and Dr. Mario.

As for characters they need, a Koopa would be cool, but I really want the Koopa Kids: Ludwig, Roy, Morton, Wendy, Iggy, Larry, and Lemmy.
I'd like some more obscure characters too, like Mouser, Wart, or Poo.

[Cofey]

Just so you know, if you really could own anyone, you would not be seeing much progress with your ability if you use Link. His potential is mediocre.
I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. I don't think any character's potential is mediocre. And I don't know what experts you mean, but I don't buy all that.
The bottom line is this: it doesn't matter what character you use. Characters don't make good players. It's how you use the character. Any character can be better than any other character. It all depends on who is controlling him.

....yeah, sorry 'bout the double post.

[Bloodman]

King K Krule can throw his crown....


And when Revolution comes out, I'm definetaly gonna participate! I'LL OWN YOU OUTLAW!

[OutlawAdidas]

King K Krule can throw his crown....


And when Revolution comes out, I'm definetaly gonna participate! I'LL OWN YOU OUTLAW!


If you think that you'll own me, then you are sadly mistaken. I am good in SSB, but I have seen alot of other players who are ten times better

[SuperLuigiBros]

I think Krystal would be a good addition. Sure she's in a crappy game, but that's not her fault. Falco is definately needed, because a lot of people (such as myself) prefer him over Fox. The guy who could very easily be the best player in the world uses Falco. A lot of people don't understand that "clones" are their own characters. When you get good enough, you can't just transfer your playing style over between them.
If they took out Falco then I woul be really pissed off. I Falco is my number one character, but the other day i tried out Fox and i think it was one of the only games that ive ever quit before finishing. (fox is shit) I especially hate his jump because its like he is experiencing some sort of fucked up gravity thats 1000 times worse than ours.

I think it's great that they'll add Krystal to SSB, it's always to few female characters to chose between in Nintendos games and Krystal is a perfect addition in that regard.
Why would you want more female characters when you have Peach? [/extremesarcasm]

I do hope they keep Ganondorf though, I'm not good with Falcon, but own with Ganondorf!
arg! Gannon is way too slow for my tastes, falcon is awsome cause hes strong and fast. i dont use him though.


They shouldnt take anything out, they should just add an assload of stuff. Melee was awsome, but the only problem with it was that board the platforms was missing. that was awsome. I hope they have 3 of those things. ("Boards the platforms", "break the targets", and another one (possilby "find the item"?))

[Primehunter]

hello i am primehunter i have some "info" on revolution. as soon as i can find it again i will post the link here. No I am a not industry insider or aries or anyone like that, I am just a gamer who has spent alot of time on the computer finding rev. info.
When I display this info take it with a grain of salt.
DON'T state it as truth till nintendo confirms any of this.

[Shade Valkyrie]

Welcome PrimeHunter, look forward to see you post! Hope you stick around on this boards. :)

[SuperLuigiBros]

^^ cool. welcome to the forums - i take it you will stay here for a while? or just until the revolution info dies down like the 5000 other people?

EDIT: curse you shade you beat me.

[Primehunter]

I have found the link to it,
would you like to see?
I am very tempted to tease you.
Then again it could all be bs.
Even I don't know.
But it works with Aries theories.
There are some of the parts that even I think are false.
You decide.
The link will appear soon.

[OutlawAdidas]

or you could just post it and stop being a jerk

doesn't matter anyways, cuz in 16 days, I will be at E3 gazing at the Revoltion. Four days after that I'll be taking the Revolution home

[Primehunter]

ok you want it you got it and ill try and back it up with all i got to see if this is right
http://www.gamer-girl.org/features/revolution.html
go there and see for yourself

[Primehunter]

what do you mean you'll have it four days after

[Rabunis]

lolololol pardon me for being skeptical but that information is impossible

[Primehunter]

I know it is just someone's idea
but it does kinda of fit
I dont know i just thought i would share

[Eidorian]

ok you want it you got it and ill try and back it up with all i got to see if this is right
http://www.gamer-girl.org/features/revolution.html
go there and see for yourself
ROFL, Shiggy in The Great Machine. It's satire people...

[HereticPB]

That is a bunch of crap. For one, Area 51 is in Rachel, Nevada not Arizona! Two, Rev is backwards compatible. Three, they are talking nuts.

[fishbonetaher]

bogus, i don't believe asingle word of that.

[Eidorian]

Wow, guys. It's a satire. It's funny. It's obvious that it isn't true at all.

[Primehunter]

Try to be a little open minded and look at aries stuff and this stuff plus what nintendo has announced.
Someone said that it was an old idea just never applied to gaming.
This is the idea of a mainframe comp.
But i dont completely understand how it will play gcn games or how the controls will work it that is the revolution.
And remember Aries said that it would be a Trojan Horse. It would appear stupid then all of the sudden nintendo will show off its true power.
Aries said it will be the ultimate prank.

[Primehunter]

You would be suprised on how many ppl are geographically illiterate.
plus this is just a idea of someone's.

[Eidorian]

Stop double posting...

[Primehunter]

alright

[OutlawAdidas]

PrimeHunter use this little doohicky http://forums.e-mpire.com/nnow/new_buttons/edit.gif

[Eidorian]

PrimeHunter use this little doohicky http://forums.e-mpire.com/nnow/new_buttons/edit.gifThat or put ALL of your ideas in a single post.