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Twilight Prince
06-06-2005, 08:33 PM
As I was reading some intresting thoughts by the incredilble Gollum in the forums I decided to write this.


So now what? Another graphics upgrade...more in depth online. And what comes after that? Nintendo really are right. Things are slowing down. This gen I have lost so much of the passion for games that I used to have. Next gen I think I'll lose even more, or would if it weren't for Nintendo.


Let me tell you about my domestic revolution!

I do agree with you Gollum, I have been feeling the same way... how can it really improve from here?
But some games do stand out. If someone would have let me play windwaker or RE4 and told me it was on a next gen machine i would have believed them because these games are so solid that they feel one level up.

And when it comes to graphics, who can say that they would NOT like to play a game that looks as real as that final fantasy movie they did some years ago?

But it's probably right that we will not know so much difference over the next years' progression... the peak is really soon to be reached. Now it's just up to the creators' innovation.

THOUGH...
I can proudly say that I've created my own little revolution in my home. It cost me extra money but it's definitely been worth it.

The story begins two or three years ago. I had been doing other things than playing video games for a couple of years but when I bought a cube with Zelda Windwaker i found that the magic was definitely still there and looking really good too.....
Halfway through the game I was thinking: "this game is so beautiful... but still i have a pretty hard time sometimes to keep up with what's happening on the screen". I was sitting on a wooden chair, in a smelly room in front of a 14" tv with mono sound and the sun was shining in, ruining the picture... AND my flatmate was playing music in the other room. I was hungry with no food in the fridge and no clean plates to eat from either.
I knew I was going to move to my own flat in two months and since I loved the game so much I decided to wait with playing the second half until i could find a situation where i could do the game justice...

At the time i was moving a friend of mine who worked at a Hi-Fi store said they had a projector for sale for only 1200 $. At that time it was a killer price, but it's cheaper these days. I had to buy it. Also I borrowed my friend's Logitech surround sound system.

Finally installed in my new flat I had a clean room, a nice comfy sofa and blinds for the windows. After a good dinner I sat down in front of the 2x2 meter screen, i had lit some nice smelling aroma candles, i had some dark chocolate and a glass of whisky on the rocks. I started the cube and took a deep breath as the landscape of Link's home island was panned over in the opening sequence. The sound system revealed bass sounds that i didn't even know was in the music, the wind blowing behind me in the rear speakers, and the huge screen covered almost my entire field of vision...
I started to play the game from the very beginning again.

It's easy to predict that in a peaceful and comfortable enviroment, with fully enhanced vision and sound, I was in the game. It was a totally different experience. And that's what it boils down to: the experience. Right?

Sometime's i think: why do we care so much about the system specs of the consoles and the sound and graphics of the games when most people still only play them on their old TV? It's a bit like talking about CD-quality audio and still have crappy speakers from the 70's.
Ok, I know a projector is not the only choice, there are big screen HDTV's out there and a lot of people probably allready play with both good vision and sound. But then again a lot of people don't.
Also I know a lot of gamers are teenagers who don't make their own money yet and can barely afford the console and that's, of course, understandable.

But what I'm trying to say is that there are ways of enhancing your gaming experience other than waiting for the companies to upgrade the specs of the consoles we play on. Take a game like Eternal Darkness for example. There has been a lot of effort put into making it in widesreen and surround... and most gamers never even experience those dimensions of the game!
When I heard the regenerator sniffing behind me for the first time in that autopsy room in RE4 and turned around to find out it was right behind me, throwing it's head back, revealing it's razor sharp teeth taking a big bite on my head! Am I being too bold if I claim I was twice as scared as if i would have played on a normal TV with the lights on?

Sure, you can't make your gamecube's graphics 6 time's better. But with a projector you can make them 6 times bigger!! That's a pretty revolutionary step if you ask me!
And with surround sound you get the whole picture of what's happening around you character. Playing super mario bros. 1 on a projector is, of course, a bit pointless but ever since games turned 3D i think surround is a pretty important part of the experience.

I get the impression a lot of people just play video games like they'd be taking drugs... game after game just playing them through without relally feeling it.
I only have so much time playing games. I'd rather buy 5 really good games in one year and play on a massive setup for a really great experience than afford buying 15 games every year and just play games whenever like a zombie (like i used to do).

It's not super expensive to get really good vision and sound these days. For example my setup (Projector and good surround sound) cost under 1000$ (750+220=980$) together.

I do realize this text probably comes across as a pretty camp statement from someone who thinks he's become a mature connaiseur gamer just because he's 24 years old. And it's probably the sad and naked truth. :) But if you're able to ignore that then do take the domestic revolution into consideration.
I cannot recommend it enough, for me it's been totally worth it.

Zeep
06-06-2005, 09:10 PM
I'm sure it would be 100%, or more, worth it.but some, or a lot, or even almost all of us, have no way to afford that. at all.

pac4life
06-06-2005, 10:41 PM
an upgrade in graphics is fine for me....
sire RE4 looks great, but have you seen the unreal 3 engine?? UT2007 demo? amazing...
but if the games are gonna be more $, then screw next gen lol

Lynk Former
06-07-2005, 12:06 AM
I have a big projection TV, I also have the component cable and pro logic 2 surround available to me. When you have a setup like that the PS3 looks even more stupid lol.

I refuse to play Metroid Prime 1 and 2 on any other TV lol.

bobo_ess
06-07-2005, 04:41 AM
I used the same ole 13 inch screen since i was 3 which started to make a buzzing after a while...during the 64 era...but then i graduated...bought a 27 inch screen TV with my grad money, though i wanted a 35 inch but my mom complained about the price...then i went to maine to work and i got my self a home theatre system for my room too...i tell you it is better to play those games on better things...

But i still play my SNES and if i luck out and get the NES running, i'll plug n the ole 13 inch for the nostalgia.

I wouldn't mind getting a projector though

Fallax
06-07-2005, 05:36 AM
Two things. First thing, I agree. Second thing, do you work for a TV company or something, trying to make people want to buy these big and expensive things? Oh well, I all ready have them, so its cool.

And I mean no offense. Please take none.

:1337:
Fallax

OnBake Platinum
06-07-2005, 08:48 AM
This is off topic, but I know who you are Twilight Prince.

Carry on...

Lynk Former
06-07-2005, 09:37 AM
It's not about buying just any old big and expensive TV. It's all about enjoying these games in the best possible way that you can afford to enjoy them. I have played many games on normal sized TVs that everyone has in their house, but then I've played them on HUGE TVs and sound system setups and it is sooo worth it to go for the highend setup if you can. Now quality like this really isn't THAT important to me of course, if it was then I would be supporting Microsoft and not Nintendo lol. But if you can, then go for it cause it is worth it.

Also. I so hope that Metroid Prime 3 supports 16:9, I really do.

tpfkanep
06-07-2005, 09:47 AM
It's all about enjoying these games in the best possible way that you can afford to enjoy them.I fully agree. I was a bit upset with MS and all this "HD-Era" stuff they were raving about. Gaming is already expensive enough for me. If I had the cash I would surely love to upgrade to surround sound and all that, but at the moment, it's not an option.

Twilight Prince
06-07-2005, 02:59 PM
Nice replies everyone... no i'm not working for a projector company lol :trismile:

Good to hear that so many of you agree with me... and allready have enhanced equipment. And of course it's not a must. "Enjoy the games in the way you can afford" goes without saying.

I have a big projection TV, I also have the component cable and pro logic 2 surround available to me. When you have a setup like that the PS3 looks even more stupid lol.

I refuse to play Metroid Prime 1 and 2 on any other TV lol.
I want to ask you: is there a big difference with the component cable? It's kind of expensive isnt it?



But i still play my SNES and if i luck out and get the NES running, i'll plug n the ole 13 inch for the nostalgia.


yeah i know what you mean I hooked up the NES to the big screen and played ice hockey... that was just like... epileptic :)
Also newer platform games like Viewtiful joe actually are better on the tv, I think.


This is off topic, but I know who you are Twilight Prince.


Lol... and i know who you are. And? well i still love you bakeboy so if u feel like it please do take some time to write something in response to my long and beautiful post, now that I've made an effort to contribute with a serious and inspiring topic to your wonderful forums. (Instead.)
Well, carry on... btw have you seen the south park episode fingerbang? ;)

Flamin Scotsman
06-07-2005, 05:17 PM
i actually know what you mean dude
theres something called a pyromat.. its bed type thing you lye on and connect to your game system. The cushions and head rest rumbles and all the sound comes from these huge speakers in the headrest.
it makes games so much more intense. My only problem is i have a tiny tv, this means if i lye on the pyromat i can barely see the screen... whic ruins it a bit lol.

Lynk Former
06-08-2005, 01:37 AM
I want to ask you: is there a big difference with the component cable? It's kind of expensive isnt it?
If you have a big TV it makes a world of difference. But if you have a little or normal TV you won't notice any difference.

Twilight Prince
06-08-2005, 02:00 AM
If you have a big TV it makes a world of difference. But if you have a little or normal TV you won't notice any difference.


I'm thinking how much difference it will be on the projector.... the projector is really huge but it's also has a natural blur... hmmm

Lynk Former
06-08-2005, 11:40 AM
Depends how old the projector is. Technology is funny that way actually, you buy something and 20 seconds later something more advanced has just been created or released or even invented lol.

MicVlaD
06-08-2005, 03:44 PM
Nyes, I do agree with you that better equipment can provide better experienced, even planning on buying a new TV myself "soon", maybe even Surround Sound.

Problem is, I still have a year of school left (curse you added 7th year!) so I'll have to endure a bit longer, unless I manage to get a well-paying job during the summer vacation, which isn't very likely...

Twilight Prince
06-17-2005, 01:39 AM
I'm gonna get one of those cables.... read stuff on the web about it and it seems it'll improve everything :)

Also, what do you people consider to be the most cinemtic game on the cube?

Deno22
06-17-2005, 07:48 AM
well if u don't have much money which part of the whole thing do u think is more important, the big TV or the surround sound?

Twilight Prince
06-17-2005, 05:54 PM
i'd have to say a big tv or a projector... surround on a 14" tv is pretty daft :)

Deno22
06-17-2005, 06:14 PM
ya everytime it hink of Halo i think of gettin surround sound for it so i can listen to the trees ruffle and the birds chirp all around me. Damn that would be sweet.

AntiRealityHero
06-17-2005, 06:20 PM
I've been looking into buying a projector for a couple of months now, but I'm having a tough time deciding on one. May I ask what kind you have - LCD or DLP, brand, model number?

I understand that there are pros and cons for each, [DLP will give you more vibrant colors and a better picture quality, LCD will give you darker blacks with no bulbs to replace] and I'm still not sure I'm going to go through with it - i.e. saying bye bye to all my money. :(

But having a 100 in. diagonal screen playing Zelda.. :eek:

MicVlaD
06-17-2005, 08:52 PM
Also, what do you people consider to be the most cinemtic game on the cube?
Resident Evil-games, Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes, Metroid Prime-games, Rogue Squadron-games (a masterpiece in the audio-department), Baten Kaitos (likewise) and Eternal Darkness.

Beyond Good & Evil and Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time are possibilities aswell, though I'm not entirely sure.