A world without Nintendo

[Lynk Former]

The gaming company everyone used to love is now the gaming company everyone loves to hate... except a few, of course. But the majority either hate Nintendo or are very critical of them. It seems to me that the majority of people believe that Nintendo should not be in the gaming industry any more...

So then let's ask ourselves a few questions. What would the world be like WITHOUT Nintendo? But let's ask this question with three different era's in mind.

What would the gaming world be like if Nintendo never existed? No NES, no Mario, no Nintendo at all.

What if Nintendo died around the same time as Sega? the N64 being their last console.

What if Nintendo dies today? No Revolution, no more DS, no more Nintendo.

What do you think the world woudl be like in those three different possibilities? Think about what you're going to post here, I don't want any "teh Nintend0 suxxors!! Who carez!!!!!!!!!!111" crap in here. These are serious questions and demand serious answers. I am interested in seeing what people REALLY think about Nintendo seeing as the general opinion is "we don't need Nintendo."


edit: fuck... move to general nintendo please XD lol

[SuperLuigiBros]

I think that Video Games would be nothing without Nintendo. If they never made games or the NES never existed there would be hardly anyone who plays them. It would be like anime in a white society. Only a few people would actually appreciate it.

[Generosity of God]

i dont agree about no mario if there was no nintendo. i mean it would have still been possible for miyamoto to create mario for a different company. its just that he ended up working for nintendo and creating it for nintendo.

[Flamin Scotsman]

wasnt marion origionally jump man, created by miamoto but for an arcade in a donkey kong game?

weather or not people like nintendo the game comany needs them. just think of how many greatideas nintendo had and integrated into their consoles to get stolen. with none of those ideas.. the ps and xbox would be mediocrer devices.

[HolyPaladin]

If it hadn't been for Nintendo, there really wouldn't be much of, if any, video game industry today. Prior to the Famicom (NES), the video game industry had crashed. It died a horrible, painful death. Experts didn't think it possible to revive the industry, and consumers had no interest in video games anymore, but Nintendo took a gamble on it anyway and did the impossible: the revived the industry and made it bigger and better than it had ever been before. Sony and Microsoft were both around prior to the NES, but neither one had any interest in video games, so if it hadn't been for Nintendo reviving the dead industry, we wouldn't have seen Sony or Microsoft going for it.

Might somebody else have come along and did what Nintendo did back in the early 1980's? Maybe, but they might not have had Nintendo's success with it, or it might have come years later. If someone else had tried and failed to revive the industry, they might have succeeded only in making it even more impossible to bring it back. If somebody else would have come along and revived the industry some years later, it wouldn't likely be as developed and vast as it is presently.

The industry pretty much owes its very existance to Nintendo.

[Bloodman]

Games wouldn't survive. Nintendo saw an opportunity to bring back gaming from the crash while everyone else was too scared. If there was no Nintendo, there would be no miyamoto. Miyamoto went with Nintendo because they were around and they needed creaters. Sega just followed Nintendo later on and Miyamoto wouldn't be able to join them because of the time frame.

So yes, while games were around before Nintendo, Nintendo made them better overall and that set the path for other companies. In my mind, both Sony and Microsoft should be PAYING Nintendo a large portion of their income. Without Nintendo, sony and microsoft wouldn't be where they are now.

[Phoenix]

No NES = Still dead. The industry will never come back. No more video games.

No Gamecube = I can see a similar thing to what's currently happening, except there would be little to no creativity. I think the PS2 and the Xbox (if it would ever come up) would be the last. There would be a second crash, with no one to bring us back.

No Revolution = The next generation would go like the speculation for the next generation goes. "Which will win? PS3 or Xbox 360? Because those are the only 2 systems." Eventualy, about half way through I'm guessing, there will be a huge loss of interest due to lack of creativity. Once again, the industry crashes.

[PorpoiseMuffins]

I think that the biggest time for innovation with Nintendo so far, where Nintendo really pushed the industry forward, was with the N64. Graphically, it was a huge step up from SNES, and the games even looked and played far better than any 3D game on Saturn or Playstation. The real innovative part was that the controller was designed for this complete gaming revolution (the move to 3D games), whereas the saturn and playstation controllers were merely reorganized SNES/Genesis pads. The N64 controller was actually ergonomically designed to fit your hand, and the brand new joystick concept felt second nature right when you put you thumb on it. Every system since has switched to using the joystick. In addition, the C buttons were designed to be used as camera angle buttons, allowing for far deeper control over the games. Not to mention the fact that the games were awesome (granted there weren't enough of them). Later on in the system's life, Nintendo introduced the rumble pack, which immersed players even more, and is now ripped off in every console.

In other words, Nintendo made the switch to 3D gaming look and feel right. If they had died out after SNES, who knows whether the competition would have come up with any of those innovations.

[Flamin Scotsman]

yea..
nintendo controllers ARE the way forward..
i have been playing my Dc lately... but i just got naruto ninja gaisen 2 for the gc so i whipped it out.. the controller practicly merges with your hand.
i had inital difficulty with the n64 controller becuase i had a weak thumb... unable to preform the subtlties which the analogue now trains it to to.
even if nintendo never made consoles and this scenario was about third party controllers, you would still have th same answer... every aspect of nintendo is needed...

[MicVlaD]

No Nintendo -> no Playstation -> bye bye mainstream crowd

The most obvious possibilities have been stated so I won't repeat 'em.

[Flamin Scotsman]

no nintnendo = no reggie... then who would kick ppls asses and take their names? OH THE HUMANTIY

[Zeep]

What would the gaming world be like if Nintendo never existed? No NES, no Mario, no Nintendo at all.
Video games would be completely, 100% nonexistant. The industry was dead. Nintendo had the courage to say they would revive it. The Wall Street Journal said they were completely insane, and that it would never work. If you had told someone back then that the industry would be as big as the movie industry, they would want to send you to an asylum. Trust me, I did a history term paper last year on video game history.

What if Nintendo died around the same time as Sega? the N64 being their last console.
That would be a shame, but I don't think it would change much of anything. In fact, right now people are starting to realize that the industry is stale. I think if Nintendo hadn't gotten into their "different" stage that started mid-GameCube, I think the whole industry would believe that the industry was fine as it was, and everything would just get more and more stale.

What if Nintendo dies today? No Revolution, no more DS, no more Nintendo.
Well, a lot of Sony and Microsoft fans would be happy. I know I personally would give up video games entirely (well, except for PC games), and I'm sure some other people would do the same, or similar. And then the industry would just get stuck in a rut again like they already are going to.

Because lets face it, the video game industry is like a well that's drying up, and as Microsoft and Sony continue to try and get the last bit of water out, Nintendo is rushing to try and fill it up again.

[Ocelot9]

It would indeed be a sad world! :cry2:

[reltihite]

Nintendo gave people a reason to play electronic games off their computer...and to stop playing physically active games.

[Vishus]

If not video games I'd like to see them get really active in animation. Anime, non-anime, 3d anime, and non-anime 3d.

[reltihite]

Like the kirby cartoon? Oh yeah, that was reeaaaaaaaaally awesome.

[Vishus]

^ Did Nintendo make that? :P I'm pretty sure most companies that make good games can make better movies.

[Nexus]

I simply can not what it would have been like without Ninty. I would expect that video games would just become an underanted nerds things. I mean look at PC gaming, that existed without the aid of Nintendo, sure some of the things that Nintendo did could have influecend some PC games but I think that it would be extremely different.

If Nintendo looses the current console war then I expect that Nintendo would become 3rd party and make games for multiple platforms so it wouldn't be that bad.
^ Did Nintendo make that? :P I'm pretty sure most companies that make good games can make better movies.
No they did not make that. Big companies like Nintendo usually source things like cartoons out to other companies to do.

[bobo_ess]

a world with out nintendo would suck...big time

[Lynk Former]

http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=1828833#post1828833

i posted this thread on another forum to see what kind of results i'd get there... here's my latest post, it's the explanation of why i posted this thread in more detail.

edit: ...might as well quote myself just in case people can't find it...

@ StormHammer: You've missed the point ENTIRELY lol.

The point was that I had noticed that 99.9% of people I know, meet and come into contact with literally HATE Nintendo and want the company to die. The reason I started this thread is to actually hear what people really think about Nintendo, even if some of their opinions are misguided.

It was a theoretical question which asked what a key figure of the gaming revolution that occured in the mid 80s never existed or died suddenly. In this timeline that key figure is Nintendo, all other "what ifs" are completely irrelevant because they never occured in this reality.

The fact is, it was Nintendo who has been always taken a key role in furthering the innovative ideas that allow the creation of new types of games to be possible in this videogame console arena. Just like Sony is creditted for expanding the market and making it grow into this extremely large entity, Nintendo are the ones who keep this market fresh.

Yet everyone thinks that Nintendo is dead weight. Why? I assume it's because they are ignorant to what Nintendo has done, and whether you believe me or not, the people who have all the facts do say that without Nintendo it would be a very stale videogaming industry at the moment. Without Sony it would be a very small videogame industry, without Sega, there would have been no competition and therefore no growth in ideas, etc.

Everyone who entered this industry gave a key part of themselves to it. Yet in the end, the ignorant masses want Nintendo dead, the one company that is alive to keep this industry from growing dull and boring.

I'm not saying Sony should die, I'm not saying Microsoft should die. All I was trying to find out is the motivation for this hate and want for Nintendo to no longer exist in the videogames industry.

People critisise Nintendo for experimenting with a lot of things which never get used properly until someone else picks it up. Well obviously that is going to happen, the experiment never does out perform the versions that come after it. But because Nintendo experiments, it introduces new factors into the mix which help ensure that the industry doesn't take a step into the grave.

We've had 2 generations of great graphics and 3D worlds. But no real innovation, other than the odd game or too, Nintendo itself is finding it hard to make anything new, though they have, Pikmin is an example of this.

That's why the Nintendo DS is so important, new interfaces are being experimented with. That's why the Nintendo Revolution is so important. More technology to expand the interface between the player and the game, Nintendo is creating the ability to play games in a new way which has never been done before.

Yes you will still be able to tap those buttons like you always have, but something extra will be added which will give developers a fresh approach.

So then... why do these people hate Nintendo?

[Flamin Scotsman]

becasue there twats...who have no personal opinion so steal the mainsteams...
granted some people who have in depth knowledge are allowed to flame nintendo if they have background knowledge.. but barely anyone with that knowedge would be ABLE to hate nintendo. (if you get me). becasue unless your ignorant then you will know how much good ninty have done.