PSX Discussion Thread

[Matt]

As you may have noticed, we've got a fair number of PSX threads scattered across the forum. Some good, and some, well, a bit annoying. So this thread will now be the only PSX thread on the forum.

If you have any questions about the PSX, or any thoughts, you post them here. If you don't, then I'll just delete the new thread that has been made.

From GameSpot (http://www.gamespot.com/):

New Sony console revealed

Sony announces that it will release its new PSX console, complete with hard drive and DVD burner, in Japan this year and in other territories in 2004. First pictures inside.


At a media briefing in Tokyo earlier today, Sony announced that it will release a new game console named PSX in Japan before the end of the year. Scheduled for release in North America and Europe sometime in 2004, the sleek-looking PSX console is essentially a redesigned PlayStation 2--albeit with plenty of additional features.

With the exception of the console's 120GB hard drive and built-in Ethernet support, the PSX console's new features won't offer any benefits as far as gaming is concerned, but--thanks to the inclusion of a TV and broadcast satellite tuner and a DVD recorder--it will instead transform the PlayStation 2 into a set-top box capable of delivering online play, music, and movies straight out of the box.

When playing games, you'll plug your controllers into the rear of the PSX console, where the hard drive and Sony Memory Stick compatibility have clearly rendered the standard PS2 memory cards obsolete. No pricing information for the PSX has been announced at this time, but the box will be marketed as a high-end electronics product rather than as a game console and, as such, will be handled by Sony's Home Electronics Division as opposed to Sony Computer Entertainment.

Screenshots:

Link1 (http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/news/screens_6029048.html?page=1)
Link2 (http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/news/screens_6029048.html?page=7)
Link3 (http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/news/screens_6029048.html?page=9)
Link4 (http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/news/screens_6029048.html?page=10)

[Ramzy]

Shame it's a bit pricey, though. 500 quid last time I checked.

[Matt]

Well at least it isn't £600 any more. Any thoughts of buying it?

[indiekid4]

The thing is, if I buy the PSX, in one year the PS3 will be out. It's kind of not worth buying the psx if you are a gamer. Plus, the PS3 will be more powerful and more worth your money.

[Maxesman]

If I buy it it will be because of its dvd and television capabilitys. I already own a playstation 2 so buying it for the games doesn't seem to bright. unless however you can network the two and play games with many players.

[NickSCFC]

Can anyone tell me which recording format it will use for DVD's? Is it DVD+RW or DVD-RW?

[GodZeRo]

The only thing I saw was -r, but it may change by the time it hits stateside.

[Raiden]

Yeah that's the only thing I found on it but that, like GodZero said that could change. But I don't know if I would buy it or not because the PS3 buy that time wont be long and there's going to be some good games coming out over the next two or three yeirs that mite ceep me happy for the time being.hehehe I think it will just depend on how much money I have at the time like every thing els I buy :lol:

[NickSCFC]

Well aren't Sony using DVD+RW for DVD recorders now?

[GodZeRo]

Wek aren't Sony using DVD+RW for DVD recorders now?

strange aye? Sony pushed the + format, now using -. Must be a cost thing.

[Matt]

Would be a bit odd if they were trying to watch the pennies, considering the stuff they've put into the PSX.

[Ultima X]

Well, my uncle is getting me a psx and and like 14 games. The psx to me is cool and worth the money. Most things that feature as much as the psx does cost like 1000 to like 4000 maybe more, so the psx is actually a bargain. I just hope my uncle gets me a new graphic card for my computer cause mine is like really really old. :(

[Matt]

Of course the PSX will be cool to you if you're getting one. It's just not cool for the people who think that that amount of money is a lot. But nice one for having an uncle with copious amounts of money! :wink:

[Danji]

I agree that it is well worth the money but I will probably never get it because I do not have cable in my room and by the time i move out i think i will have better things to be spending it on. The PS3 will be fairly old by the time I move into a house of my own so that's about when i'd buy a PSX. Though i would absolutely love it if i could get one sooner.. *craves for movie-onto-memory stick writing capabilities for his PSP* Let alone the DVDs, wow this thing is absolutely great for the price.

[NickSCFC]

When is PSX due for its American and European release and what features will be incuded which were absent on the Japanese version?

Also, what are Sony's plans for network content in the west? What are we likely to see?

www.psx.sony.co.jp

[CloudANDTidus]

By the time the PSX hits eurpoe Sony promisses to get it back to the original specs.

The stateside release will probably have more than the japan but maby not everything, depends how much effort Sony put into it.

Release? I have know idea......

[Omega Blue]

By the time the PSX hits eurpoe Sony promisses to get it back to the original specs.

The stateside release will probably have more than the japan but maby not everything, depends how much effort Sony put into it.

Release? I have know idea......

they already said any future releases will have all original specs. meaning US and Euro releases.

[ultimategamer2004]

I heard that the psx is already out in japan.

[the legendary ice man]

the european release at least will lack some of the best features including the CD-R playback, and the MP3 player - but that is easy to get round!

[NickSCFC]

Sony already stated that the missing features from the Japanese version will be reimplemented for the western release.

[the legendary ice man]

well my info was farily fresh - only about 2 weeks old - this is to keep the console on time

I say who cares when its out - i'm not paying nearly £400-£500 for something that can't do the most desirable features!

[NickSCFC]

Upgrade discs were released in Japan to provide the missing features to those who bought PSX at launch. All future releases of PSX will include all features.

[the legendary ice man]

well...as long as the discs are free!

[NickSCFC]

It doesn't atter to us because we get all the features since day one. It's kinda like the first release of PlayStation 2 where Japanese consmers had to buy memory cards (which had video drivers) just to watch DVDs. We didn't have the problem over here though.

[the legendary ice man]

well...hopefully...Sony can keep their console on top - not really hard considering how much of a disaster the xbox is sales wise - during the weeks upto christmas it sold less units than the GBA and SP!

[NickSCFC]

And what does that have to do with PSX?

[the legendary ice man]

dunno...felt like it needed to be said.

I doubt the PSX is going to be a massive hit - probably about as popular as the GBA and SP because of its hefty price tag

[NickSCFC]

PSX will be a success with people who want to get technology before everyone else. We'll have to wait for a PS3 powered PSX ti it finally takes off.

[the legendary ice man]

exactly - i can't see why sony don't develop a much bigger version of the PSX based on some of the Vaio hardware and embed it with PS2 game playability and the CELL chips and sell it off as a new PC - that would be popular

[NickSCFC]

exactly - i can't see why sony don't develop a much bigger version of the PSX based on some of the Vaio hardware and embed it with PS2 game playability and the CELL chips and sell it off as a new PC - that would be popular

Well if they were to do that they'd most likely do a Cell powered PSX that plays PayStation 3 games.

[ultimategamer2004]

Can someone please tell me exactly all the features of the psx.. Although i dont think i will buy one at those prices..

[NickSCFC]

www.psx.sony.co.jp

Specs for the Japanese PSX DESR-5000

• Processor - EE+GS@90nm (Emotion Engine + Graphics Synthesizer).
• DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R and DVD+RW recording and playback.
• 160GB hard drive built-in.
• Store video, music (MP3, ATRAC3) and downloaded content on hard drive.
• Built-in video and picture editing software.
• Compatable with Digicam and Handycam™.
• Memory Stick slot.
• Two Memory Card slots (PS2™).
• Two Controller slots (PS2™), situated at rear.
• Able to play games and record videos at the same time.
• Fully compatible with PS2™, including online games.
• Remote Control (not compatible with PS2™ remote control).
• Web browsing (requires additional software).
• TV tuner.

Should cost roughly £400 when it's launched in Europe. Most likely it'll also include a digital TV tuner.

PSX DESR-5000 unit + Remote Control

http://images-jp.amazon.com/images/P/B00011D1UY.09.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Menu

http://images.amazon.com/images/G/09/other/b00011d1uy_detail_1.jpg

[GT4 RULZ]

the whole console is a work of art even the menu in it look nice plus the remote its great. the first it coms out in oz i am buying i finally saved enough :D

[Matt]

Well I'm sure you'll have plenty of money by the time you guys get it over there..... :)

[NickSCFC]

Had a trip down to my local PC World with a mate to get some speakers. Managed to have a go of a PC using the new Windows Media Center Edition (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/mediacenter/default.asp). Though it doesn't do anything particulary new, it uses a remote and a simpistic menu system to access you video, audio and image files.

Alternatively, all new Sony VAIO (http://www.vaio.net/) PCs come with a media centre very similar to that of Microsofts but with much more modern and stylish looking menu. The remote is also sleeker than its fat, ugly, American Microsoft counterpart.

Both offer a great alternative to Sony PSX if you're looking at buying a new PC, both Windows Media Center Edition and Sony's Media Studio are only available in new PCs and cannot be bought seperately.

[KlawHammer]

Im buying one as well - i hop its under $700.

[GT4 RULZ]

hey guys do any of know you wat os the psx will run on ???

[KlawHammer]

Probably a proprietary Sony OS like the one on the PS2 only better. Maybe even Linux.

[GT4 RULZ]

why ohh why doesnt sony and ibm and all them companies dont backup the linux os its great. :?

[Omega Blue]

are you high? they do! haven't you see the IBM Linux commercials? Sony and IBM have been on a buck wild "Support Linux" compaign. it may not have been as pushed but they have and are still doing it.

[gamingmonkey2004]

PSX looks so cool i cant even want to think or care about the OS cause it looks cool and im trying to imagine how the PS3 will look cause i think the PS# will be simalar to the PSX (by that i mean color scheme)

[brownbeaner2]

i had not really thought about buying one until right now. most likely im going to get it when it is released

[gamingmonkey2004]

your the type of people that i want to rob...they have so much money its not even funny

[draco04]

i had not really thought about buying one until right now. most likely im going to get it when it is releasedI only wish that I coulde get it when it comes out like gaming monkey said.your the type of people that i want to rob...they have so much money its not even funny

[NickSCFC]

Hmm, pay for a Hi-Fi (£100), Digital video recorder (£200), DVD Recorder (£200), Games console (£120), Digital TV tuner(£50) and have a load of ugly boxes cluttering your room, or £400 for a styish box that sits nice and snug under your TV and connects to broadband?

*buys a PSX and saves on the $$$*

[brownbeaner2]

i would love to see you try to do that
in fact i would have a video camera to record it
i would like to see the look on your face when me or my bro
stand in front of you looking down i doubt you could take on two
230 pound guys or one for that matter.

i guess you dont know what name has to do with me.

who says i have money you dont know me so
dont judge what you cant see
book by its cover or something like that

[gamingmonkey2004]

maybe you should get up a little and walk some and loose some weight my friend. and matter of a fact instead of wasting money on a PSX get lypo. anyway i wasnt saying i would accually do that because im not poor. i was just making a statement on how the PSX is fairly expensive but hey flaunting your weight around is...interesting. anyway no hard feelings i was only stating

[draco04]

i would love to see you try to do that
in fact i would have a video camera to record it
i would like to see the look on your face when me or my bro
stand in front of you looking down i doubt you could take on two
230 pound guys or one for that matter.

i guess you dont know what name has to do with me.

who says i have money you dont know me so
dont judge what you cant see
book by its cover or something like thatmaybe you should get up a little and walk some and loose some weight my friend. and matter of a fact instead of wasting money on a PSX get lypo. anyway i wasnt saying i would accually do that because im not poor. i was just making a statement on how the PSX is fairly expensive but hey flaunting your weight around is...interesting. anyway no hard feelings i was only statingso you need your bro to help beat up one person and your 230 pounds............. when I first read it I thought waoh this guy is a musule head but now thinking about it ....................i'm sorry you have a problem. :D :D :D 8)

[gamingmonkey2004]

amen! i mean...maybe i shouldnt be that angery and crazy...i am sorry but still i was kidding about robbing you and now could we get back to PSX discussion

[draco04]

amen! i mean...maybe i shouldnt be that angery and crazy...i am sorry but still i was kidding about robbing you and now could we get back to PSX discussionsounds good to me.








P.S. i'm sorry as well

[gamingmonkey2004]

like i said lets talk about how cool and expensive the PSX will be does someone know where i can find the specs

[NickSCFC]

like i said lets talk about how cool and expensive the PSX will be does someone know where i can find the specs
I posted the specs on page 3 of this topic.

[gamingmonkey2004]

you mean i have to move my hand and hte mouse with it and click page 3? aww :lol: jk ty dude

[draco04]

looks really good. sounds even better.

[brownbeaner2]

if i was fat and didnt mean what i said
i would care but it aint worth it to fight a monkey you
probably have the mind of one to

so lets get back to the subject
hopefully the PSX comes HDTV support
dont have but hopefully i can save up to get one.

[gamingmonkey2004]

if i was fat and didnt mean what i said
i would care but it aint worth it to fight a monkey you
probably have the mind of one to

so lets get back to the subject
hopefully the PSX comes HDTV support
dont have but hopefully i can save up to get one.
dude i was kidding with you can we move on? and yes we were sort of on topic. i think the PSX does its just a matter of reading the specs...which i still havnt got around to do yet :lol:

[KlawHammer]

Lazy itell you lazy. I use a stylus believe it or not .Not a mouse.

[powellmacaque]

Ok I figured out a good estimated cost of the PSX(USD). Since $1= ¥106, I just did a little math. Now keep in mind that there are 2 models of PSX (atleast in Japan)
250GB - ¥99,800/ approx. $942.14
160GB - ¥79,800/ approx. $753.33
Remote - ¥3,500/ approx. $33.04 :shock: :shock: :shock:

Now, knowing companies, they like to make life easy for us lazy Americans and round off. So figure about, for the 250GB $950, the $160 $750, and the remote $35. Good luck raising the money for this baby.

All prices are just estimates. If I am off, don't sue me or yell at me, because that will not be the nice/cool thing to do.

If you think I am b/sing u, do the friggin math yourself. Here is the link for the prices, and the pictures of the models. This is a direct link to Sony.

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/200310/03-1007E/

[powellmacaque]

Sorry, $1 doesn't EXACTLY equal 106 Yen, but it is like .342 cents off.

[gamingmonkey2004]

you might want to make that one post. where do you find out how much each thing is to a dollar? i only know one thing and that is 1 Euro = 1 USD
and i think either 10 or 100 pasos = 1 USD

[powellmacaque]

If you would like to do the math yourself, I'll put a currency chart
U.S. $1= ¥105.93
Aussie $1= ¥78.6846
Hong Kong $1= ¥13.5851
Canadian $1= ¥80.264
Euro 1= ¥128.090
U.K. £1= ¥191.775
Chinese 1= 12.7981

O.K. anybody else just PM me, and I'll see what I can do. :D

[gamingmonkey2004]

but i thought 1 Euro is 1 dollar

[Scott R. Mraz]

Courtesy of IGN.com

New PSX Update Version 2

March 26, 2004 - A few weeks following the distribution of its first PSX upgrade disk, Sony has gone about finalizing details on the second. Set to be made available on 3/31, this upgrade adds even more of the features that went absent from the system in its rush to the Japanese market late last year.

# The new update offers the following features: Recording to and playback of the DVD+RW format. Note that SLP mode content is excluded from this.

# Forward play at 1.3 times speed

# Recording of separate audio channel along with main channel, both to the hard disk and to the VR-Mode of DVD-RW

# Forward/Rewind of retail DVDs at 30-times speed

# Ability to make changes to your upcoming recording list directly from the interactive programming chart.

# Ability to read Sony Cybershot format pictures and movies from CD-R

# Recognition of maximum 99 MP3 music files per folder on a CD-R

# Bug fix involving bug where system would stop during slide-show playback of still pictures.

As with the first update, this update will be downloadable to your PSX by connecting Online starting 3/31. Those without Online access can get their hands on a CD-ROM version either through Sony's website or via retailers who stock the PSX, but will have to wait until 4/21.

The American version of the PSX is expected to have the system's full specifications restored in time for its release later this year.

[NickSCFC]

I'm still undecided as whether to get one or not. It depends on whether Sony include a digital TV tuner in the European version, and as Sony included an analogue TV tuner in the Japanese version (with digial terrestrial TV only being launched in Japan earlier this year) it seems ver likely.

[Matt]

but i thought 1 Euro is 1 dollar

€1 is about $1.21 at the moment.

[ultimategamer2004]

I'm still undecided as whether to get one or not. It depends on whether Sony include a digital TV tuner in the European version, and as Sony included an analogue TV tuner in the Japanese version (with digial terrestrial TV only being launched in Japan earlier this year) it seems very likely.

The only thing is the price for what it is i feel it is slightly expensive.

[NickSCFC]

The cheaper version (PSX DESR-5000 )should be no more than £400 in the UK.

[powellmacaque]

It just doesn't make since to me why the company has change things around from region to region. I mean, if the Japanese get one thing, but not the other, then they spent a huge sum of cash on a product that wasn't even produced to the best standards at the time.

[gamingmonkey2004]

they cange it for the type of people that we are. plus if a certain version didnt go over very well they change it

[NickSCFC]

When it comes out in America they'll have to change the TV tuner to suit American TV broadcasting, and when itr comes to Europe they'll have to have a different TV tuner for each country.

[ultimategamer2004]

The cheaper version (PSX DESR-5000 )should be no more than £400 in the UK.

Thanks for the info thats a lot more reasonable.

[KlawHammer]

You forgot to add New zealand dollars.

NZ$1=70 Yen

[NickSCFC]

The cheaper version (PSX DESR-5000 )should be no more than £400 in the UK.

Thanks for the info thats a lot more reasonable.
It wasn't official, it was just my estimation.

[ultimategamer2004]

Oh i hope you are right. How much will the expensive version be in the uk then.

[powellmacaque]

Sorry about forgetting the New Zealand Dollar. For some reason I thought that New Zealand used the same money as Australia, just different paints/ faces on the bills. Sorry again :?

[ibrooklyn]

Oh i hope you are right. How much will the expensive version be in the uk then.

dude thats RETARDED...dont get ur hopes up, it will not be 400bux.....american cheaper version will be liek 600 bux and so european CHEAPER version would have to be around 600 bux too

[NickSCFC]

Why? It's basically a PlayStation 2, Network Adapter, HDD and DVD+/-RW drive in one.

How does the price of the Japanese PlayStation 2 compare to PSX?

[Matt]

Don't know whether this would be right or not, but I had a look on Lik-Sang:

JAP NTSC DESR-5000: 795USD (435GBP)
JAP NTSC DESR-7000: 995USD (545GBP)

JAP NTSC PS2: 269USD (145GBP)

[NickSCFC]

Don't know whether this would be right or not, but I had a look on Lik-Sang:

JAP NTSC DESR-5000: 795USD (435GBP)
JAP NTSC DESR-7000: 995USD (545GBP)

JAP NTSC PS2: 269USD (145GBP)

When you think about the obvious import cost I'd say I was pretty bang on with my estimation.

[Matt]

The thing is though, will the costs match the conversion of currency?

[NickSCFC]

Isn't "GBP" pounds?

[Matt]

Sure is. I'm just curious to see how the price will turn out when it finally releases here. For example, if it turned out to be 600USD, then would it then match whatever 600USD is in GBP, or just go to 600GBP to match the US price?

[GT4 RULZ]

Sony halting PSX production?


Japanese newspaper reports the electronics giant has temporarily stopped making its PS2/PVR hybrid due to poor sales.


http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/news/news_6093440.html

[ibrooklyn]

Sony halting PSX production?


Japanese newspaper reports the electronics giant has temporarily stopped making its PS2/PVR hybrid due to poor sales.


http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/news/news_6093440.html

wow that friggin blows =(

i guess US might never see a PSX.....i friggin hate how stupid SONY gets sometimes, they rushed this product, left out a whole bunhca original features and the PSX is dead now.

I was waiting for an ALL IN ONE system b4 sony had even thought of makin a PSX and now its all f**ked up.

[GT4 RULZ]

yes it does blow i was waiting for an all one but now with this crap psx might not see the light of day in australia :evil: :x

but it said temporarily stopped so it might be relaunched in the us

[NickSCFC]

Sony rushing something out for the Christmas holidays, where've wee seen that before :roll:

[Matt]

Oh well, looks like I'll be moving to Japan..... :)

[ibrooklyn]

yes it does blow i was waiting for an all one but now with this crap psx might not see the light of day in australia :evil: :x

but it said temporarily stopped so it might be relaunched in the us

yea im guessing they will just fix the original PSX and make it more user fiendly and add all, maybe even some NEW features and then RErelease it, taht would own. Hopefully we will get PSX and CoCoon in America, that would be so nice.

[Matt]

CoCoon?

[CloudANDTidus]

Sony halting PSX production?


Japanese newspaper reports the electronics giant has temporarily stopped making its PS2/PVR hybrid due to poor sales.


http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/news/news_6093440.html

wow that friggin blows =(

i guess US might never see a PSX.....i friggin hate how stupid SONY gets sometimes, they rushed this product, left out a whole bunhca original features and the PSX is dead now.

I was waiting for an ALL IN ONE system b4 sony had even thought of makin a PSX and now its all f**ked up.

You have to remember how well the PSX sold in its first week. Nearly everyone who wanted one in japan has one which is why the sells went down hill. Sony are just waiting for the PSX's they have made to sell before making more. Thats the only reason production was stopped.

It dosn't mean they will never make PSX again and we will never see it.

As for price, the UK will get the same price as america. If it's $600 in america, it will be £600 in the UK. Sony tend to do that alot............

[Matt]

That's what I was worried about. Because £600 would come to around $1100.

[ultimategamer2004]

Don't know whether this would be right or not, but I had a look on Lik-Sang:

JAP NTSC DESR-5000: 795USD (435GBP)
JAP NTSC DESR-7000: 995USD (545GBP)

JAP NTSC PS2: 269USD (145GBP)

When you think about the obvious import cost I'd say I was pretty bang on with my estimation.

Yes i agree it should be near enough bang on your estimation and i dont think ibrooklyn knows what he is talking about i think he thinks we are talking about dollors dosent he or is he just stupid.

[Matt]

I don't know, but I just hope that we don't end up with the same kind of figure as the US for the PSX price. That may put me off, because I could just buy one cheaper from the US.

[ibrooklyn]

CoCoon?

its like an advanced TiVo, very easy to use, has an HDD of upto 500Gb like very slik lookin, user friendly and just sexy.

Its kinda like a PSX but without the PS2 games, and its selling very good in japan, which is very strange cuz PSX is all that plus a DVD burner and a PS2 add on, and people dont buy it =\ not to mention the price is pretty much the same too.

[GT4 RULZ]

any one have a pic of the cocoon ?

[ibrooklyn]

any one have a pic of the cocoon ?

there you go:

http://www.sony.jp/products/Consumer/cocoon/

[GT4 RULZ]

wow thats pic is abosoluly amazing that thing looks soo mad. i would buy this instead of the PSX it looks so cool

http://www.sony.jp/products/Consumer/cocoon/images/topimage.jpg

[gamingmonkey2004]

do you know what it is? i wanna know

[KlawHammer]

The "CoCoon"

[GT4 RULZ]

when i first saw that pic i thought the tv was joined to it .lol

but it aint :(

[Fats]

when i first saw that pic i thought the tv was joined to it .lol

but it aint :(

lol :lol: Sadly not.

[Matt]

I thought that at first, but never mind.....

That looks pretty nice anyway.

[ibrooklyn]

do you know what it is? i wanna know

dude i a;ways knew u were retarded since the first post you tried to argue with me a few weeks ago. Your NEVER read oother posts CAREFULLY and then ask stupid questions.

If you go up 2-3 posts you will see me explaining what The CoCoon is.

CoCoon is SONYs official TiVO.

[KlawHammer]

Finally someone confronts him. As for the CoCoon, the PSX wouldnt look to bad if it looked like that.

[ultimategamer2004]

Yes that looks way better than the PSX i hope we see that over here in ENGLAND 1 day... I doubt we will.

[Matt]

Even if we did, which, knowing our luck, we won't, it would be a fair while.

[gamingmonkey2004]

do you know what it is? i wanna know

dude i a;ways knew u were retarded since the first post you tried to argue with me a few weeks ago. Your NEVER read oother posts CAREFULLY and then ask stupid questions.

If you go up 2-3 posts you will see me explaining what The CoCoon is.

CoCoon is SONYs official TiVO.
get over yourself like youve never done it before and how was i suppose to know at the time cause i didnt know TivOs came with TVs which i know now it doesnt plus i thought it was something like the PSX2 or something since this is the PSX thread and GT4 said where is a pic for one and he posts it up. and what did we argue about before?

[KlawHammer]

Ok monkey, calm down.

[NickSCFC]

do you know what it is? i wanna know

dude i a;ways knew u were retarded since the first post you tried to argue with me a few weeks ago. Your NEVER read oother posts CAREFULLY and then ask stupid questions.

If you go up 2-3 posts you will see me explaining what The CoCoon is.

CoCoon is SONYs official TiVO.
get over yourself like youve never done it before and how was i suppose to know at the time cause i didnt know TivOs came with TVs which i know now it doesnt plus i thought it was something like the PSX2 or something since this is the PSX thread and GT4 said where is a pic for one and he posts it up. and what did we argue about before?
Use this (,), this (,) and this (,).

[Makaveli_786]

I think the one they launch in the UK will have more features...

A DVD-R/RW in the UK costs about £400(A good quality one)

And there are two kinds of PVR's you can buy, one is Tivo, you can get it for about £300 with a 20 gig HDD and the other option is Sky+ I think its about £200 to fit but you have to pay monthly fees of £10 for as long as you have it in your posession, it comes with a 20 gig HDD too.

In other words it will cost you £700 for a smaller HDD and a lower quality DVD-R/RW, while the other option leads you down the £10 a month option.

Overall its well worth it, especially if its really going to cost £400, I thought they would squeeze £700 out of us at least.

[gamingmonkey2004]

do you know what it is? i wanna know

dude i a;ways knew u were retarded since the first post you tried to argue with me a few weeks ago. Your NEVER read oother posts CAREFULLY and then ask stupid questions.

If you go up 2-3 posts you will see me explaining what The CoCoon is.

CoCoon is SONYs official TiVO.
get over yourself like youve never done it before and how was i suppose to know at the time cause i didnt know TivOs came with TVs which i know now it doesnt plus i thought it was something like the PSX2 or something since this is the PSX thread and GT4 said where is a pic for one and he posts it up. and what did we argue about before?
Use this (,), this (,) and this (,).

ill start using commas when i want or when they make a grammer cheaker for this site

[NickSCFC]

You could at least structure your sentances a little beter then, I'm sure I'm not the only one having great difficulty understanding your posts.

[gamingmonkey2004]

You could at least structure your sentances a little beter then, I'm sure I'm not the only one having great difficulty understanding your posts.
have you been not drinking water

Edit: ....there

[Matt]

Ahem, excuse me.....

[KlawHammer]

I think the one they launch in the UK will have more features...

A DVD-R/RW in the UK costs about £400(A good quality one)

And there are two kinds of PVR's you can buy, one is Tivo, you can get it for about £300 with a 20 gig HDD and the other option is Sky+ I think its about £200 to fit but you have to pay monthly fees of £10 for as long as you have it in your posession, it comes with a 20 gig HDD too.

In other words it will cost you £700 for a smaller HDD and a lower quality DVD-R/RW, while the other option leads you down the £10 a month option.

Overall its well worth it, especially if its really going to cost £400, I thought they would squeeze £700 out of us at least.

I think you're getting ripped off pal

[stanDarsh]

I think the one they launch in the UK will have more features...

A DVD-R/RW in the UK costs about £400(A good quality one)

And there are two kinds of PVR's you can buy, one is Tivo, you can get it for about £300 with a 20 gig HDD and the other option is Sky+ I think its about £200 to fit but you have to pay monthly fees of £10 for as long as you have it in your posession, it comes with a 20 gig HDD too.

In other words it will cost you £700 for a smaller HDD and a lower quality DVD-R/RW, while the other option leads you down the £10 a month option.

Overall its well worth it, especially if its really going to cost £400, I thought they would squeeze £700 out of us at least.

I think you're getting ripped off pal

I agree, a decent 8x DVD + & - RW Drive in Australia costs me less than $150AUD! £400 is rediculously expensive, that translates to about $1000 AUD, I could buy all 3 consoles for that much and still have about $300 left over!

[KlawHammer]

Same as in NZ i payed $150 for my HITACHI DVD-R/RW drive and that was a high-end SCSI model mind you...

[Makaveli_786]

Damn I need to move to Australia then :shock:

[ultimategamer2004]

Well at those prices i might also think about...

Back on the PSX topic who is getting 1 i might a load of good features for £400 or 500 quid not bad?

[KlawHammer]

You guys must get ripped off on a daily basis in the UK than aye? How much do you pay for a carton of milk? 10 pounds?

[stanDarsh]

You guys must get ripped off on a daily basis in the UK than aye? How much do you pay for a carton of milk? 10 pounds?
Apu: It may not be glamorous, but it's good, honest, work.
Lady: How much for this quarter-milk?
Apu: 12 dollars!

Seriously though Klawhammer, in most cases I reckon we get more ripped off than UK!

[gamingmonkey2004]

from what ive heard you do. i mean we only pay 50USD for games and you pay w/e and its more

[KlawHammer]

You guys pay what - $19 for Platinum (Greatest Hits as you call them) games, in NZ we pay $60. If you convert the currency it comes to $40 NZ. We pay around $20 more...

[Matt]

Ouch, that's a lot of money. Hard luck.

[gamingmonkey2004]

You guys pay what - $19 for Platinum (Greatest Hits as you call them) games, in NZ we pay $60. If you convert the currency it comes to $40 NZ. We pay around $20 more...
we call the PS2 games greatest hits and its red. then XboX is Platnium hit or w/e

[KlawHammer]

We call PS2 big timers 'Platinum' and Xbox big timers 'Xbox Classics'.
But its all in the same thing - almost...

[gamingmonkey2004]

same game just differnet cover

[KlawHammer]

And sometimes differnet features and content. Depending on PAL or NTSC territories.

[Matt]

I don't think we ever get any new content over here.

[KlawHammer]

You've got a point there Matt, we always get the leftovers - literally.

[Matt]

Platinum is a good idea though, because then people will have a guarantee that the game is going to be half-decent. And they're also cheaper as well, which is always handy.

[KlawHammer]

Having sold 300 000 copies to be ordained with Platinum status....

[Fats]

Has anyone noticed gamers choice for the gamecube, it's exactly the same colour (more or less style as well) as Platinum titles over here. Dirty cheats.

[KlawHammer]

Lol, "Gamer's Choice"...where'd they come up with a name like that?
No i havent noticed any...

[Fats]

I stand corrected, it's player's choice... :lol:

http://img.game.net/ml/2/6/6/9/266990ps.gif

[Makaveli_786]

Damn only 300,000 copies to become a plat, in the music business you need to sell a million copies to become platinum.

[ultimategamer2004]

It should be alot more in the gaming industry now it is so popular...

P.S: a post whore and you havent been here long at all less than a month..

[Makaveli_786]

Yeah im on a roll :P

[Fats]

Cough* NERD *cough

lol, I'm kiddin' ya. Last time I said that some dude took a chomp outta me.

[Makaveli_786]

LOL, Man ive got IT classes, I write up what I have to write up in ten minutes then spend the rest of the time typing on forums like these.

[Matt]

I used to do that a lot as well when I was on an IT course. Probably the main reason I'm doing something else now. :)

[Makaveli_786]

LOL, its fun because you do the work in ten minutes then spend the next hour and 20 minutes typing up on the forums then you get a break, next lesson you repeat the same process, my posts are going to suffer badly when summer roles around though :shock:

[Matt]

As in you'll be posting more crap or less crap? :P

Anyway, we should get back to the PSX really.....

[KlawHammer]

Yes, we have a tendency to veer off-topic alot...

[ultimategamer2004]

Made my desision today if the PSX is launched at less than £400 i will get 1 straight away.

[KlawHammer]

Im not buying that thing - too expensive.

[ultimategamer2004]

Alot of features..

Alot of money :oops:

I want to be able to do things like burn dvds and all the other fetures of the PSX.

[Matt]

If they stick a DMS3 in a PSX, then I'll definately get one.

[KlawHammer]

Alot of features..

Alot of money :oops:

I want to be able to do things like burn dvds and all the other fetures of the PSX.

Thats why we buy DVD burners...

[ultimategamer2004]

Yes you got that right but they are expensive and only burn dvds the PSX is more expensive but it has loads more features.. :lol:

[Makaveli_786]

Yeah I want to be able to modify my PSX, if not then most likely I wont get one.

With a PSX you get a DVD recorder which can record and play the DVD +/-RW formats and the +/- R formats with a 250 GB HDD(which should be able to handle about 325 hours of recordings) and the ability to record from DVD to HDD and vice versa.

On top of that you get a PS2 which when modded can play copied CD's, PS1 games(import and copied), PS2 games(imported and copied) and copied DVD movies plus online gaming.

For me personally £400 for the amount of features it offer is amazing.

[Matt]

Too right. Has there been any more news on a Western release by the way?

[Makaveli_786]

Not any that I know of

[NickSCFC]

Any idea if there's a way of wirelessly connecting PSX to a PC?

Example: PC in one room, PSX in another connected to TV set, transferring video from one to the other.

[Matt]

Does the PSX have WiFi?

[Makaveli_786]

I think it does, dont forget its being remodelled with new features before it flies out.

The rumors about PC connectivity were strong as hell so I would be surprised if they didnt have PC connectivity :shock:

[NickSCFC]

I was on about close range wireless connections, like Sony VAIOs use to connect to modern Sony TV sets.

As for changes, I'd like to see the 4 controller ports at the front (rather than the two at the back), an extra USB port and an iLink port.

[Makaveli_786]

Man id love to see cordless pads, there was talk about it but nothing ever came about, then again maybe they have them in Japan, I didnt know about the cocoon till a few weeks ago :?

It seems like everything that comes from Sony is coming with a wireless interconnectivity system so I dont see why it shouldnt have them :?

[NickSCFC]

With PSX' problems in Japan, I'm wondering whether PSX will ever be released in the west.

[NickSCFC]

Source - www.ign.com

Sony Reveals New PSX

June 16, 2004 - Sony Japan unveiled today a new version of its PS2-compatible digital video recording device, the PSX. Starting July 1, the current DESR-5000 and DESR-7000 model systems will be replaced by the new DESR-5100 and DESR-7100 systems. Pricing is open, but actual retail values are expected to be 74,000 yen for the 5100 and 95,000 yen for the 7100, both a slight drop from original PSX pricing.

Hardware remains unchanged from the original units, with the new versions still featuring, respectively, 160 and 250 Gigabyte hard disks. The new models still lack pass-through ports for cable/antenna and digital connections, but Sony has seen fit to include two sets of splitter cables and four antenna cables with each unit.
The only actual hardware change is in the color of the model 5100 system. Sony will offer a limited edition silver version of the model alongside the standard white color. The 7100 system will be sold in white only.

Included with the new hardware right out of the box will be the latest PSX firmware update. This update addresses many issues with previous revisions and finally takes the system a few steps beyond its original specifications.

In addition to bug fixes, the firmware update brings an improved user interface. The update also adds access to Sony's PlayStation BB broadband service. PSX owners can now browse the various pages available through the service, selecting between the various channels on offer. The update is not compatible with content download, though.

DVD creation is being beefed up considerably with the update. It's now possible to change recording modes when dubbing to DVD (selection from HQ/HSP/SP/LP/EP/SLP), meaning if you recorded something in high definition you can dumb it down a bit to fit it onto a single DVD. It also becomes possible to select between primary and secondary audio channels when dubbing a recorded television broadcast to DVD. Previously, the system required that both channels be recorded, forcing the use of VR-mode, which left the recorded DVD incompatible with standard DVD players.

DVD menu creation, previously an absent feature from the PSX family, is also being addressed. You can select from fifty different templates for menus. Of course, the ability to create menus means you'll at last be able to split recorded footage into chapters.

Those who own the original PSX models will be able to upgrade their system firmware, at no cost, to the new version starting 7/15. As the new PSX systems feature no hardware changes, this upgrade will essentially make the old model PSX equivalent to the new one.

[Matt]

Still no news on a release anywhere else though. I wonder if it'll ever make it here, or even the US for that matter.

[Makaveli_786]

I think theyr taking another shot at making it work there before releasing it here, Sony always cater to the home market first.

[NickSCFC]

This looks like what we can expect for th European release, though I still have my fingers crossed for a Digital (Freeview) adapter.

[Matt]

American and European PSX launch delayed

Sony's DVD recorder and PS2 hybrid machine won't make it in time for the 2004 holidays.

Following the PSX's lukewarm reception in Japan, Sony will be delaying its release of the console in America and Europe. In an interview with Bloomberg, Sony Electronics America president Hideki Komiyama stated that the PlayStation 2/DVD recorder hybrid will not be released in America until sometime during 2005. The PSX will see a similar delay in Europe, although Sony hopes to release it there by the end of the current fiscal year ending March 31, 2005.

Komiyama said the reason for the PSX launch's postponement in America and Europe was so that Sony could make the machine more appealing to its customers in the two regions. In order to make the PSX competitive against other DVD recorders in the American market, Sony is rushing to add as-yet-unrevealed additional specifications and functions to the PSX. The PSX was originally released in Japan last December without previously announced capabilities like MP3 and DVD-RW compatibility, and its sales in the country are still lagging.

When Sony originally announced the PSX last October, its plans were to record 1 million worldwide unit sales by the end of 2004, a goal made all but impossible, given the new 2005 Euro-American launch. Talking to Bloomberg, Ikegin Capital analyst Masayuki Ito commented that while the delay looks bad, its effect on Sony's stock price should not be too big. "It's difficult to imagine that there's a lot of anticipation [for the PSX from overseas] when considering its sales situation within Japan. It [the PSX] doesn't seem to have been counted in much as a part of the company's fiscal forecast, so the delay's influence towards Sony's stock price should be limited."

Sony's shares closed today at 4,000 yen ($36.99), down 40 yen ($3.7).

Source: Gamespot (http://www.gamespot.com/)

[NickSCFC]

Great, if Sony want it to be the complete entertainment system, then it's going to need improvements. Glad to see Sony taking it seriously.

[Matt]

And launching around the same time as the PSP. Do you think that's a good idea?

[ultimategamer2004]

Well i aint sure on that one but probably not but i have no reason for saying no so...

well i dont know.. :wink:

[Matt]

It's just that I'm sure there are some people who would like to buy both, but only have the money for one. If they were to space the releases apart a bit, then I think that the releases wouldn't adversely affect the sales as much as being close to eachother.

[ultimategamer2004]

Yes iu think so to but it should be ok for most as if they gat the PSX they will be able to afford a psp or thats the idea..

[Matt]

Yes iu think so to but it should be ok for most as if they gat the PSX they will be able to afford a psp or thats the idea..

Oh I'm sure there's plenty of people who have money for both, but I'm sure that there are some people that have only saved for one or the other. Say, if the PSX was released in January and the PSP in March, that would give some people the opportunity for people to save a bit of money for the PSP after buying the PSX.

[ultimategamer2004]

Yes i dont know about getting the PSX yet i might or imight not it is without a doubt a good system but i need a new PC which i am saving for and a PSP very close to the launch and i've got what 7-8 months :lol:

[KlawHammer]

Buy the PSP instead of the PC man. Murphy's/Moore's wahteva Law doesnt affect PSP.

[ultimategamer2004]

I am getting both i should get tyhe PSP very near launch if i can get the PC about 3 months before! :lol: I NEED a new PC.

[KlawHammer]

Well im sure we all do...what with our 32MB vga cards and boring old P2 433MHz CPUs...

[NickSCFC]

Apparently when PSX is released in Europe and America, it'll be able to play Blu-Ray discs :mrgreen:

[gamingmonkey2004]

yes SONY did say something about adding new things to the PSX before the release in US and Europe...but of course im saying this only from what i read in GameInformer and they can screw words up to make you think one thing. but very secifically they said SONY is adding things to cater to new technology and the American/European tastes

[cpiasminc]

PSX Prices Cut in Japan

The retail price of the PlayStation 2-based PSX DVD burner/multimedia device has been cut by up to half in Japan, only a few months after a re-launch of the format. The basic, 160Gb hard drive, model is now priced at ¥39,800 ($364), down from ¥74,000 ($677) and the high-end 250Gb version is now ¥52,900 ($484), down from ¥95,000 ($869).


Source : Nihon Kaizai Shinbun.

This looks interesting. Originally, the release prices were not attractive because it pretty much equalled the sum of the price of a PS2 and a comparable Sony DVD-R/PVR unit. Now maybe, the sales may not be so lukewarm. I wonder how this will affect the initial selling price on release in the U.S. Hell, if the 160 GB model is $365-ish on release, I'd gladly sell my PS2 and buy a PSX.

[Domination]

PSX Prices Cut in Japan

The retail price of the PlayStation 2-based PSX DVD burner/multimedia device has been cut by up to half in Japan, only a few months after a re-launch of the format. The basic, 160Gb hard drive, model is now priced at ¥39,800 ($364), down from ¥74,000 ($677) and the high-end 250Gb version is now ¥52,900 ($484), down from ¥95,000 ($869).


Source : Nihon Kaizai Shinbun.

This looks interesting. Originally, the release prices were not attractive because it pretty much equalled the sum of the price of a PS2 and a comparable Sony DVD-R/PVR unit. Now maybe, the sales may not be so lukewarm. I wonder how this will affect the initial selling price on release in the U.S. Hell, if the 160 GB model is $365-ish on release, I'd gladly sell my PS2 and buy a PSX.

Now THAT's what I am talking about.That first price tag really stunk...well not really.I just wasn't looking to pay that much for one until the price got a little lower.I'm really looking to purching one now. :)

[Fats]

Excellent prices, I wonder how much it will retail for over here. :?

[Domination]

Excellent prices, I wonder how much it will retail for over here. :?

I don't know,but it's still considered bang for buck,IMO. I am definitely ready for one.

One other thing,was this box suppose to burn music or was it just wrongly interpreted for saving music? :?:

[gamingmonkey2004]

woah woah...maybe i dont remeber this but it records DVDs? even though SONY is a major anti-piracy company

[NickSCFC]

No, it means that you can record TV programs and personal video onto DVD/CD.

[gamingmonkey2004]

o yea TiVo type stuff yea i heard of that..i guess the way he said it confused me

[NickSCFC]

Following hot on the heels of its recent sweeping price cuts to the PSX range, Sony has announced two new models which will arrive in early December, boasting new software features and minor updates to the hardware.

New versions of both the 160Gb and 250Gb models of the hardware will be shipped, labelled as DESR-5500 and DESR-7500 respectively, and will be functionally identical aside from the drive sizes and the lack of satellite tuner and ghost reduction systems in the low-end model.

The changes to the hardware in this upgrade are minimal, with the main additions being a pass-through for antenna signals - which was considered to be a glaring omission of the original systems - and an updated DVD burner which will support DVD+R media.

Sony is more enthused about the software updates in the new systems, which will now boast a set of applications called X-Appli, which are designed to allow users to exploit the functions of the PSX more fully.

One of these applications is a keyword based recording system which allows the user to set the device to automatically record interesting programs based on a keyword search, the same as TiVo boxes do, while a new slideshow application allows users to view photos on the system in a slide show with music and transition effects.

The most interesting of the programs, however, is x-DJ, which mixes in elements of Sony's PS2 title DJBox (or DJ Decks & FX as it's known here) and gives the PSX the ability to dynamically "mix" tracks on the system according to a mood selected by the user, as well as visualising them on the screen.

The announcement of the new models scotches speculation that Sony's price cuts to the existing PSX range - with two cuts which slashed the price of the high end model by 35,200 Yen (261 Euro) in the space of a month - could indicate that the company was preparing to quietly withdraw the range.

Instead, the firm seems determined to fight on, despite the general consumer apathy towards the PSX devices which has followed on from a promising launch late last year, which saw early adopters snapping up the first allocations of the units.

However, it has certainly relented on pricing, and the new PSX models will be launched without an RRP - instead, they are being quoted as "open price," with retailers free to set final price points as they see fit.

[gamingmonkey2004]

nice article Nick.
anyway...retailers setting price...seems kinda gay one way and good another. it will either be too high so they get alot of profits or cheap and good for us

[Matt]

it will either be too high so they get alot of profits or cheap and good for us

Why do I get the feeling it will be the first of those two? :)

Anyway, at least it's finally going to make it's way out of Japan.

[gamingmonkey2004]

it will either be too high so they get alot of profits or cheap and good for us

Why do I get the feeling it will be the first of those two? :)

yea lol most likly.

[Leedogg]

So have they said if it'll make it to the US yet?

[*G*spot]

Yeah...when are we gettin' this partay started? It has been long enough already, f--k.

[Walu]

When will the PSX be release in North America?I want to buy one. :x

[gamingmonkey2004]

i think early 2005 or late 2005...im not sure cause i forgot

[*G*spot]

hmmm..... :? :? :? still waiting :x :twisted:

[Matt]

I wonder if they'll bother now?

[gamingmonkey2004]

yea if i was sony i wouldnt. i would just concern on just hte PS3 and not make the same mistake

[Matt]

Quite soon after the release in Japan the sales went down, so it may not even be financially rewarding for them release it anywhere else.

[gamingmonkey2004]

PSX wasnt that appealing to me. Plus the price was quite repelling. maybe if it launched in America a few years ago and with a lower price people who didnt have a PS2 could of gotten a PSX..but i guess thats what the PStwo is for right?

[Matt]

If they were to release the PSX now, that would be 3 new products within a few months of eachother, one product could affect the sales of another.

[gamingmonkey2004]

yea thats very true..id say let the thing die. because i dont expect it to ever come out in the US or Europe

[Matt]

Just think how long it would take to get to Europe, considering the delay there has been between the Japanese release and the possible US release.

[gamingmonkey2004]

well most people here never heard of the thing. First i ever heard of the thing was from this site. So the thing really isnt that appealing. Maybe if it was sold more towards an entertainment system instead of a game console. So take the name PSX off it and rename it.

[Matt]

Well it does lean a bit more towards a home entertainment system. I think Sony have got the Cocoon now haven't they?

[gamingmonkey2004]

thats true. no need to flood the market with similar items

[NickSCFC]

I'm still getting one, whenever the hell they come out :roll:

[Matt]

Suppose you could always import one if Sony don't release it here.

Welcome back by the way.....

[NickSCFC]

Yeah, been having a few problems with my PC/job/woman.