Final Fantasy XII Discussion Thread

[Z]

Before Nov 19th official FF12 info relese, you can check out the first real pic of FF12. It is hosted on gearcritech.com
...UNLEASH THE FANTASY!!

The fantasy is never final.
oh, and thanks to TEEDA, you can just scroll down and see the pics.

[Swordmaster Jehuty]

According to that scan the FFXII will have a Metropolis like world and that girl looks so hot. I like the logo too.

[Ultima X]

Yeah that picture does look cool. I can't wait 'till it comes out. And that girl looks like she gonna look good. But im really waiting for
Kingdom Hearts 2, I jus can't wait to play that game. Well there are lots of good games coming out and most of them i will get. :D :shock:

[TEEDA]

here are some more images bigger :

http://www.jeux-france.com/Webmasters/Images/1200520031113_090610_0_big.jpg

http://www.jeux-france.com/Webmasters/Images/1200520031114_193623_2_big.jpg

http://www.jeux-france.com/Webmasters/Images/1200520031114_193618_1_big.jpg

http://www.jeux-france.com/Webmasters/Images/1200520031114_193616_0_big.jpg

[Z]

I really do hate one more thing other than waiting for about eight months for the English version, and that's why in the world does the hero always looks like a girl? I mean look at Van (ff12 main hero), he looks prettier than Ashie (the main heroine) :!:

[GodZeRo]

I really do hate one more thing other than waiting for about eight months for the English version, and that's why in the world does the hero always looks like a girl? I mean look at Van (ff12 main hero), he looks prettier than Ashie (the main heroine) :!:
:shock: yes, quite disturbing.

[Ultima X]

Heres some more pics of ff12 and news information and pics by gamepro


Square Enix held a press conference in Japan today introducing Final Fantasy XII to the world. Directed and produced by Yasumi Matsuno, Final Fantasy XII shares some elements with Final Fantasy Tactics Advance. The Judge, for example, who set and enforced the fighting rules in FF Tactics Advance, will appear as a prominent character in the game (note also that the judge is part of the FF XII logo). Other elements in common with Tactics are the races, with Bangaas (lizard men), Humes (humans) Vieras, and Moogles appearing in the game. Square Enix plans to release the game in Japan in the summer of 2004.

The Background Story


The Judge figure from Final Fantasy Tactics Advance seems to have gotten more menacing.
The Alkaydia empire, who controls the continent of Valendia, has been waging war for many long years against the Rosaria empire, who controls the continent of Odaria. Dalmaska, a small kingdom between the two continents of Valendia and Odaria is caught between the two empires’ conflicts due to its strategic location. The Alkaydia empire invades Dalmaska, taking over the kingdom and killing the king. Ashe, the 19-year-old daughter who is heir to the throne, vows revenge and joins the resistance to oppose the empire’s rule. Her fight seems futile, as she sees countless comrades fall before the empire. It is at this time that she meets Vaan, a cheerful boy living in downtown Dalmaska, who together will greatly change the history of the world of Ivalice. The Characters
Judging from the teaser and screenshots that Square Enix showed, there are at least four playable characters in the game. Ashe, 19 years old, is the royal successor to the kingdom of Dalmaska. After the death of her father, she goes into hiding to join the resistance and fight the Alkaydia Empire. Vaan is a 17-year-old orphan whose parents were killed in the conflict against the empire. Described as being optimistic and one who refuses to be bound by race or politics, he dreams of becoming an air pirate. The identities of two other playable characters, one male and one female, are still unknown.

As stated earlier, the Judge is a key character in the game, perhaps serving as a sort of antagonist. An armored knight with a Darth Vader-like imposing stature, the Judge takes upon the role of both juror and law enforcer. A Bangaa bounty hunter character also appears who also seems to play a notable role in the game.

The Battle System


Ashe and Vaan, off to go change the world.
Square Enix has revealed almost nothing of the battle system, though they have stated that they purposely took battle screenshots that resemble battle screens of other Final Fantasy games, so it could be a different system. The introductory blurb in the prologue section of the official website says that the warrior “transfers his trained skills onto a stone,” so it could perhaps mean that the game will have you equip stones to master skills similar to Final Fantasy VII.

Other Features
The game features a fully 3D world that players enables players to freely move about and manipulate the camera angle. As the artwork suggests, air ships and air battles will also play a large role in the game, as the four-minute trailer showed swarms of aircraft and dreadnought-sized battleships fighting.

[TEEDA]

Here is the first gametrailer of ff XII


http://www2u.biglobe.ne.jp/~nanko/movies/ff12-2.wmv


very beautifull even than ff x and the universe is very amazing

[GodZeRo]

HOLY! Looks great. can't wait.

[solidus]

I'm not such a FF-fan and i have played it for like 5 min (FF-X) and i stopped.
I had just finished Golden sun on the gba and tought it was the same only the gba is portable.

Ok, for the graphics but why buy a game for the graphics if i don't like playing it.

If someone could convert me into playing those games pplease help.
If i rent it will i enjoy it and give me some info on the game specs...

[Matt]

You can't really rent a Final Fantasy game, unless you were to play it absolutely non-stop.

Go out and buy Final Fantasy VII. Trust me.

[Z]

If someone could convert me into playing those games pplease help.
If i rent it will i enjoy it and give me some info on the game specs...

You don't have to like FF games. You said you tried FFX, and if you don't like it, you don't like it. I just can't imagine anyone seeing the Aoran and Tidus cut scene and doesn't feel like playing it more.
Aoran: "this is your story....this is where it begins"
aaah the nostalgia :)

[solidus]

I didn't realy play the game actualy.
I just battled one enemy and that's all.
But i think i will buy it thanx :wink:

[Sony_Freak237]

BUY FINAL FANTASY 7!!! It will get you hooked on all RPG's, it is simply amazing to this day.

Basically you take all types of emotions, Compassion, Love, Honor, Anger, Hate, Romance, mixed them up in a blender, throw in some kick-ass graphics, amazing mini-games and sidequests plus over 60 hours of gameplay and voila FF7. (Well almost all FF but this one is the best).

This is my story, I had never even played a RPG before in my life, but when I heard about this game from my friend I rented it after work the second day it came out.

I got home, popped it in, i played the first five minutes which starts as a full motion CG Cinema and blends right into the gameplay, then another CG cinema all of which an amazing score is playing in the background. At the first save point, I saved my game, quit, then went to walmart and bought it just so I could own the game right then and there!

Ever since I have loved RPG's, even though most don't compare to FF7. I would and do recommend this game to eveyone. :D

[GodZeRo]

I was blown away the same as you the first time I played ff7. Simply an amazing game. Today the graphics look dated ofcoursde, but at the time it was like they used every trick the ps1 was capable of, and used them it the most artfull way. And when I discovered the "arcade town" whatever it was named (think las vegas if you never played it) wew-hew! Chocobo races, video games based on the mini games, for a while there it seemed like the game world went on forever.

[solidus]

I will buy FF-7 if it comes out on the PSP. Again IF!!

But i already am a great RPG-FAN, like i said i just love Zelda and Golden Sun but those are both Nintendo games.

[TEEDA]

Final fantasy 7has been sold no more than 70 millions of copies of the game
it is describe as the most incredible rpg game for the playstation 1
but few people think that the greatiest final fantasy is the 6 th
but like a lot of gamers i think that the first final fantasy for psone final fantasy 7 is the best rpg ever in any console games and i m wiating for final fnatasy 12 , have you taken a look at the video ? i ve posted ?

it is totally amazing , beautiful .
and of course i can t xait until final fantasy 7-2 advent children .

and few people ve notcied than final fantasy series have declines since final fantasy 10 on ps2 because it was too different from the previous games .

but in my opionion it s not true , because square enix said that every final fantasy is a new game with new characters et gameplay .

and try final fantasy 7 even try to beat the first disc you will not be disapointed .
:wink:

I will buy FF-7 if it comes out on the PSP. Again IF!!

But i already am a great RPG-FAN, like i said i just love Zelda and Golden Sun but those are both Nintendo games.



square enix said that there is no point to make another final fantasy 7 on any console , they said " why re-making a great game on another console? , it doesn t need to. the playstation 1 is here to play it .

Edited by Matt: Double-posting.

[solidus]

Yeah but it is more fun if you could play it with enhanced graphics and the fact that it would be portable is enough reason for me to remake it but i'm not the boss of Square am i.
Anyhow i hope they will decide they are going to bring it out on the PSP and if they're not it looks like i'm gonna have to buy it on the Ps1.

[Z]

There is no doubt that FF7 was great. However, we need to keep in mind its age. People new to the RPG genre need to try out the CURRENTLY best game the market has to offer, which, in my opinion, would be FFX. Think about it. It's like taking someone who wants to fly a jet fighter. You don't tell him to try out the Right Brothers ferst ever plane, you give him a Meg, or the SU37- the latest, the fastest..the works! Then, if he becomes a fly fan, he might want to try out the classics just for the fun of it.
If anyone tries to judge the RPG genre by playing FF7, it wouldn't be fair. The entire game is poor by today's standards. I know, you would say the story is great, but I'll tell you that they wont give the story a chance to even begin. So, I think that RPG fans who missed out on the legend of FF7 might want to check it out. But for new comers, they might want to leave it for the time being until they get an idea of the current best games first.
Just imagine someone tells you this: " you love racers? you have got to try out Gran Turismo 1 ( or Ridge Racer 1, Need for Speed 1, etc)!
Common, you would want to try out GT4 and the likes.

[indiekid4]

There is no doubt that FF7 was great. However, we need to keep in mind its age. People new to the RPG genre need to try out the CURRENTLY best game the market has to offer, which, in my opinion, would be FFX. Think about it. It's like taking someone who wants to fly a jet fighter. You don't tell him to try out the Right Brothers ferst ever plane, you give him a Meg, or the SU37- the latest, the fastest..the works! Then, if he becomes a fly fan, he might want to try out the classics just for the fun of it.
If anyone tries to judge the RPG genre by playing FF7, it wouldn't be fair. The entire game is poor by today's standards. I know, you would say the story is great, but I'll tell you that they wont give the story a chance to even begin. So, I think that RPG fans who missed out on the legend of FF7 might want to check it out. But for new comers, they might want to leave it for the time being until they get an idea of the current best games first.
Just imagine someone tells you this: " you love racers? you have got to try out Gran Turismo 1 ( or Ridge Racer 1, Need for Speed 1, etc)!
Common, you would want to try out GT4 and the likes.

I see your point, but you can't compare GT games with FF games. RPG's bring on a totally different type of excitment and feeling to the mix then racing games. You pretty much get the same thing with GT games, same car brands, same car types ( with updated models), same tracks ( some new ones, mostly the same tracks though ). Final Fantasies give you new worlds every new final fantasy game ( except for FF-X-2), new characters, new plots, new fighting systems, new weapons, monsters..eta eta eta. My point is, real video game players won't be turned off by the lesser graphics if the story is amazing and the game play is smooth, which FF-VII is!! Don't be a video game snob and not want to play a game because it isn't the most up to date graphics. I think you get my point.

[Z]

Same thing. I just cant picture someone playnig FF7 for the first time and going like "WOW, WHAT A GAME DUDE!"
He won't even give the story a chance to begin to unfold. As much as it is a calssic, it IS a classic. Its like going to a museum. If you don't appreciate what you are looking at, then it's all just a pile of old junk. When your a fan, then you will appreciate FF7. If not, you need to turn time back to when it was first releast.

[Matt]

Here's a Final Fantasy XII Q&A (http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/rpg/finalfantasy12/news_6084068.html) if anyone is interested.....

[Yogarine]

I let my 11-year old sister play Final Fantasy X and she was hooked!

Then I let her play Final Fantasy VII and she was like, "Dude, the guys don't even talk! And the whole game looks ugly!"

I can't get her to play any other FF-game than X...

What I'm trying to say is: You should just start with the first FF-game of the generation you're in. When I started with FF7, it was just before FF8 came out and I was really impressed, and after I finished it I bought FF8 right away and was even more impressed. (But sadly, more impressed and less entertained, but still very entertained nevertheless.)

So you should just start with Final Fantasy X... I try to play FF6 but simply find that the generation gap is simply to great... Though I still enjoy playing FF7 for the 6th time.

I wouldn't recommend FF7 for people that are not used to 2nd gen PSX graphics though...

[htp314]

Why the hell does the FF leadcharacters start to be more feminin???

[sonyplaystation3]

yes all final fantasy's are diffrent except ffx-2 takes place 2 years after ffx

and god are yuna rikku and paine hot in there new cloths

Edited by Matt: Double-posting.

[solidus]

I think somebody is trying to build-up his post count. :roll:

EDIT !!!

[CloudANDTidus]

If you want to add something there is a little butten called EDIT.

Why does everyone ignour it?

Your just spaming, your second post wasn't even worth posting anyway,

[Matt]

As if anyone is going to take notice anyway:

Stop double-posting! It makes more work for me because I have to clean up your damn mess! So stop it! :x

Grr I'm angry, I think I may go and break something now.....

[redpresleigh]

hey check out the ff12 website. there are some awesome movie and in-game pictures to look at.

http://www.ff12.com/

[CloudANDTidus]

Allthough it just says comeing soon in the charicter section on that site, two more charicters have been anounced.

Taken from http://www.gameforms.com/

Square Enix has released details regarding two new FFXII characters: Fran and Balfreya. Fran is a tall Viera warrior equipped with a bow and arrows, and was previously seen fighting alongside previously announced Vaan and Ashe in the video Square Enix showed at the official unveiling of the game. The Viera are a sharp and advanced race from FFTA that speak to the spiritual realm. Balfreya, whose visual design bears a strong resemblance to Hardin (Vagrant Story), carries a firearm and is part of a group called the Sky Race. The company also released several new images to the press, including a view of Fran and Balfreya, both seen sitting atop an airship with their weapons in hand.

Final Fantasy XII is slated for a Japanese release in Summer of 2004.

[Setzer]

I sure hope they incorporate a good amount of playable characters similar to final fantasy 6. It seems with a more complex storyline this time they may be able to pull it off. NOthin beats havin to find a few secret characters. vincent anyone?

[CloudANDTidus]

Yeah but secret charicters have very little dialog and don't ussually have much of a background (this was aparent in 6)

I hope they don't put in as many charicters as 6. I think they went a bit over the top and ended up haveing a huge group of charicters that I didn't give a damn about.

I like the amount of charicters the newer games have, allthough I want more than 3...(X-2)

[indiekid4]

Totally agree, I think the amount you recieved in FF 7 was perfect, but FF 12 will be a much larger game, so maybe a few more would be just fine.

[kaphwan]

Z wrote:
There is no doubt that FF7 was great. However, we need to keep in mind its age. People new to the RPG genre need to try out the CURRENTLY best game the market has to offer, which, in my opinion, would be FFX. Think about it. It's like taking someone who wants to fly a jet fighter. You don't tell him to try out the Right Brothers ferst ever plane, you give him a Meg, or the SU37- the latest, the fastest..the works! Then, if he becomes a fly fan, he might want to try out the classics just for the fun of it.
If anyone tries to judge the RPG genre by playing FF7, it wouldn't be fair. The entire game is poor by today's standards. I know, you would say the story is great, but I'll tell you that they wont give the story a chance to even begin. So, I think that RPG fans who missed out on the legend of FF7 might want to check it out. But for new comers, they might want to leave it for the time being until they get an idea of the current best games first.
Just imagine someone tells you this: " you love racers? you have got to try out Gran Turismo 1 ( or Ridge Racer 1, Need for Speed 1, etc)!
Common, you would want to try out GT4 and the likes.


I see your point, but you can't compare GT games with FF games. RPG's bring on a totally different type of excitment and feeling to the mix then racing games. You pretty much get the same thing with GT games, same car brands, same car types ( with updated models), same tracks ( some new ones, mostly the same tracks though ). Final Fantasies give you new worlds every new final fantasy game ( except for FF-X-2), new characters, new plots, new fighting systems, new weapons, monsters..eta eta eta. My point is, real video game players won't be turned off by the lesser graphics if the story is amazing and the game play is smooth, which FF-VII is!! Don't be a video game snob and not want to play a game because it isn't the most up to date graphics. I think you get my point
The thing is, with RPGs, graphics don't matter because the first game were fully text-based rpgs that suceeded solely on the story and gameplay. However, ironically, RPGs will _always_ have the best graphics becasue _all_ of that damn processing power is being used for breathtaking backgrounds and pre-rendered FMVs that make you just stop and glare and makes X-box and Gamecube owners to piss in their pants and cry at the power of PlayStation. FFVII was a HUGE help in getting the PlayStation and Sony to where they are today. Remember. NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF PLAYSTATION!!!

oh and btw, if I messed up quoting indiekid4's message, don't laugh much cuz im new to this site and don't really know how to quote things properly :D but to the Forum Moderators and such keep up the good work![/quote]

[CloudANDTidus]

Agh me maty! Never underestamate the power of pie.

That sounds so much better......

Anyway, welcome kaphwan063.

[shaudeus]

has anyone been to this site and saw the updated screenshots they are pretty good

http://gameonline.jp/soft/ps2/finalfantasy12/screenlist.html?p=

[brownbeaner2]

its not that bad maybe the guy looks feminin but most likely like other FF's you might only see him smile a couple of times and almost always see him with a mean face for being angry or something like in which that his face wont look feminin at all or him.
---------
you know square he probably looks how he looks for a reason that we wont know until we play the game

[draco04]

its not that bad maybe the guy looks feminin but most likely like other FF's you might only see him smile a couple of times and almost always see him with a mean face for being angry or something like in which that his face wont look feminin at all or him.
well at least we hope that there is no smiling like there was in FFIX. I don't know about you but I think that FFIX was the worst in the series always smiling and what was up with the little kids...........square should leave FF to the big boys...........and girls. :wink: :D

[gamingmonkey2004]

i dunno why do you have to be old to play FF? are you saying that hte characters in the game should be 18 and up? one thing i think is that they shouldnt have stupid monkey kids (im insulting my own name) as their main characters

[draco04]

i dunno why do you have to be old to play FF? are you saying that hte :!: :?: characters in the game should be 18 and up? one thing i think is that they shouldnt have stupid monkey kids (im insulting my own name) as their main charactersthis is how you spell the...T...H...E.....any way i'm saying that they sould leave the charactors as older people not some...............as you sad stupid monkey kids. 8)

[gamingmonkey2004]

i dunno why do you have to be old to play FF? are you saying that hte :!: :?: characters in the game should be 18 and up? one thing i think is that they shouldnt have stupid monkey kids (im insulting my own name) as their main charactersthis is how you spell the...T...H...E.....any way i'm saying that they sould leave the charactors as older people not some...............as you sad stupid monkey kids. 8)
this is how your spell characters C...H..A...R...A...C...T...E..R...S back off im right handed and my right hand types faster than my right and yes younger kinda looked cool at first when i looked at the cover then once i played i wanted to burn it

[Omega Blue]

i dunno why do you have to be old to play FF? are you saying that hte :!: :?: characters in the game should be 18 and up? one thing i think is that they shouldnt have stupid monkey kids (im insulting my own name) as their main charactersthis is how you spell the...T...H...E.....any way i'm saying that they sould leave the charactors as older people not some...............as you sad stupid monkey kids. 8)
this is how your spell characters C...H..A...R...A...C...T...E..R...S back off im left handed and my left hand types faster than my right and yes younger kinda looked cool at first when i looked at the cover then once i played i wanted to burn it

pWNED!!!

[gamingmonkey2004]

i dunno why do you have to be old to play FF? are you saying that hte :!: :?: characters in the game should be 18 and up? one thing i think is that they shouldnt have stupid monkey kids (im insulting my own name) as their main charactersthis is how you spell the...T...H...E.....any way i'm saying that they sould leave the charactors as older people not some...............as you sad stupid monkey kids. 8)
this is how your spell characters C...H..A...R...A...C...T...E..R...S back off im left handed and my left hand types faster than my right and yes younger kinda looked cool at first when i looked at the cover then once i played i wanted to burn it

pWNED!!!
what is pWNED?

[draco04]

pWNED????????????? what is that ohhhhhhhhhhh...........do you mean owned??? :D :D 8)

[gamingmonkey2004]

maybe he did

[draco04]

we won't know intill he gets back on. 8)

[Pumster]

This is a sad display - go back to talking about the game you know very little about. How about this - look about these screens:

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2003/screen0/459841_20031120_screen008.jpg
The companies famous CG work will return for this latest Final Fantasy.

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2003/screen0/459841_20031119_screen001.jpg
Ok, the picking the nose thing isn't cute. What's Raiden doing on the floor there?

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2003/screen0/459841_20031120_screen003.jpg
The game will offer some diverse environments, but you probably already knew that.

[Omega Blue]

the guy looks like Michael Jackson. :shock: :?

[CloudANDTidus]

whats the point in a chest plate that dosn't cover the chest?

[Matt]

This is Final Fantasy remember, it's not supposed to be sensible!

[gamingmonkey2004]

:shock: it does :shock: look at the tiny nose! yup Michel Jackson is written all over that. i wonder with the two characters since (warning major opinion) maybe with starting a new game you pick which story you want the dudes or the girl.

P.S. how do they walk with all that metal?

[redpresleigh]

Man this game has an uncanny resemblance to Vagrant Story, on the ps1. Anyone notice this as well? The in-game screens to the characters look much like those from Vagrant Story. I know the producer of the game was the same for Vagrant Story, so obivously that explains it. V.S. was a great game, I thought. I like having charaters that look different from the last FF, puts an end to the repetition of similiar characters.

[gamingmonkey2004]

yea thats what i thought when i first saw anything about FFXII im like "that looks just like FFX is that another sequal FFX-3?" but you know what can i say im not controlling Square or have to much say in their game devloping

[Matt]

Actually you're right. I only just noticed when I watched it again. I only played the first part of Vagrant Story, so the part that looks like the inside of a castle looks very familiar.

[redpresleigh]

Actually you're right. I only just noticed when I watched it again. I only played the first part of Vagrant Story, so the part that looks like the inside of a castle looks very familiar.

Yeah, but not only that, but the pictures posted on the tread look like a 'redone version' of the original Vagrant Story. It is kinda cool.

[gamingmonkey2004]

i never heard of Vagrant Story could someone give me a breif overview or a link to a site where i can read about it?

[Matt]

Here's a link, hope this helps:

Gamespot Vagrant Story Page (http://www.gamespot.com/ps/rpg/vagrantstory/index.html)

[redpresleigh]

i never heard of Vagrant Story could someone give me a breif overview or a link to a site where i can read about it?

Matt did find a better link about it, but I managed to find a short review about it;

http://www.gmrmagazine.com/article2/0,2053,1495054,00.asp

Damn, that was a GREAT game, I recommend it to anyone who has not played it or finished it.... Matt

[gamingmonkey2004]

hey thanks alot! anyway i would rent it or something but...i bet i cant find it anywhere to rent

[redpresleigh]

hey thanks alot! anyway i would rent it or something but...i bet i cant find it anywhere to rent

Yeah it is an older ps1 game, probably have to buy it, but good luck for renting it.

[gamingmonkey2004]

no i know i wont be able to rent it. if i cant find FFVII or FFVII or FFIX anywhwhere to rent i doubt id see that :cry:

[Swordmaster Jehuty]

You should buy them all!!!

[shaudeus]

i bought ff7 and 9 from gamestop for a total of 15 bucks with the discount you almost couldnt even rent them for that much, probably is jus worth buyin them used rather than renting

[CloudANDTidus]

My local GAME had five new copys of FF9 last week........no idea where they came from.............

[Matt]

Can we get back to the subject of XII please.....

[Swordmaster Jehuty]

It seems that FFXII looks a bit like FFIX:
medieval looks,
flying ships,
many different species,

Defenitly a whole lot different compared to FFX and FFX-2. For the ones who only played FFX or FFX-2 and not the PS1 games are in for a big surprise.

[draco04]

Yeah it does but I think that it woll be a hole lot different because I don't know about you but I did'nt care for FFIX at all.

[Swordmaster Jehuty]

I also didn't like FFIX that much, but it was still a fun and good traditional FF.

[draco04]

I don't know about fun...but... well...it was a ....game. that's all I can give it.

[indiekid4]

ohh all you haters. FF 9 was fine. It was fun. :o

I don't know why everyone hates on different Final Fantasy's. I find them all exciting to play and I love watching the story line unfold. What I loved about FF 9 was the fact that there are two different endings to the game. I like it when games do that, make syou work that much harder to find out what that alternate ending is.

[gamingmonkey2004]

one thing im secptical about on FFXII is that the characters look almost the same as in FFX i mean cant you see tidus and yuna in those characters?

[Matt]

The only thing I see in common is the genders. :)

Actually, the male character is a tad similar to Tidus I guess.

[gamingmonkey2004]

maybe its just me but hte clothes and put some brown hair on the chick and they look simalar maybe im wierd
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2003/screen0/459841_20031119_screen001.jpg

[KlawHammer]

Nice chick (drools). I think if they showed more cleavage there then she wolud be "O" for "Awesome".

[CloudANDTidus]

Nice chick (drools). I think if they showed more cleavage there then she wolud be "O" for "Awesome".

Go play X-2 you little sad man..................

[Swordmaster Jehuty]

New subject!!!! Who is the hottest Final Fantasy character?!? Gender doesn't matter, as long as he, she or it is hot!!!!

[shaudeus]

does anyone have any summon ideas i think they should add alot more original onces this time around with jus a few of the repeats bahumut ifrit etc

[Fats]

http://www.gametrailers.com/gt_vault/t_finalfantasy_12.html

FFXII trailer just incase no one has seen it...

[Matt]

does anyone have any summon ideas i think they should add alot more original onces this time around with jus a few of the repeats bahumut ifrit etc

It just wouldn't be the same without summons like Shiva, Ifrit, and most importantly, Bahamut.

This may make a good topic of discussion:

What kind of summons would you like to see in the next game?

[Swordmaster Jehuty]

Shiva should defenitly be included, she is my all time favourite summon in the FF series!!

[stanDarsh]

Shiva should defenitly be included, she is my all time favourite summon in the FF series!!

You only liked her because she had big boobies :P

[CloudANDTidus]

They should have some of the old summons but they should also come up with lots of new ones.

E.g. seven had knights of the round ect.

They should also bring back some old ones like the electricity summon (the old bloke with the stick, name?).

Nice to have a chocobo and/or moogle summon again as well.

Also they should have more summons than what X had.


Man..........ant I demanding..... :lol:

[draco04]

Shiva ,Bahamut ,and Ifirt are musts but so are new ones because the games would just seem the some with the same old summons every time.

[gamingmonkey2004]

didnt X have like uhh...10 summons? with the secret summons? yea there is like 30 some summons and it would be nice just to have 15

[Otacon5000]

i think they should really do something about the random battle encounters. i think they should bring back the real world map, no selecting a location to go to. and on the world map, there should be random battles, but when you go in caves/dungeons etc., there shouldn't be random battles, it should be more like chrono trigger where you can actually see the enemy before you encounter him and avoid him and stuff like that.

[Matt]

They should also bring back some old ones like the electricity summon (the old bloke with the stick, name?).

Ramuh.

[rev>thanu]

hey guys i finally found a pic of how the new girl for FF12 looks like.

http://images.ffshrine.org/ffxii/041501.jpg

[Fats]

Hey not bad... Not bad at all... :D

Update:

Thanks to Japanese gaming mag V-Jump, we've learnt a little on one of the new characters set to appear in Final Fantasy XII. Pannero is a 16 year old blonde girl who is apparently a "friend" of strapping lad and main character Vaan.

Of course, the main heroine of the title, Ashe, has already been revealed, and the two main characters tend to get it on in FF title. But maybe Square Enix is cooking up some kind of unrequited love, soap-opera-bizarre love triangle thang. Or maybe it's just decided to go for the adult market and stick in a saucy menage a trois.

Whatever, with the game not set for release until 2005 - and late 2005 at that - there's plenty of time for more juicy details to do the rounds before we actually get to play the title. Expect a slew of info on Final Fantasy XII to emerge at this year's E3, which is just a few short weeks away now.

www.computerandvideogames.com

[rev>thanu]

i think this new girl looks more like yuna than the main character ashe.

[Moridin]

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/rpg/finalfantasy12/preview_6097934.html

Some impressions from E3. Looks like there's going to be a big change in the combat system from previous games. Sounds pretty cool to me, some fans might not like it as much.

*edit* dead links

[shaudeus]

random battle encounters look like thier gone this time around

[Pumster]

BAM! 400th post!

random battle encounters look like thier gone this time around
Hopefully, this change will attract fans of Action RPGs that dislike the abruptness of Random Encounters. In addition, I hope other developers will follow this example. (Personally, Random Encounters are just as annoying as the Resident Evil control scheme.) :P

[draco04]

i know...... it's funny though because can be walking through a field brightly lite just filling the summer breeze in your face with hundreds of people around and then..........blam you are attacked and when the battle is over everyone is still where they were when the got attacked and life goes on like nothing happened hopfuly it will be somwhat like FF11 of FF cristal chronicals.

[gamingmonkey2004]

in FFXI there are random battles...you just see the monster before it gets to you like it starts chasing you. you can run from it but you really cant get to far cause they alwasy catch you. unles your level 75 and a rabbit trys to get you...i think you can get away..plus why bother slash him!

[Pumster]

While reading the latest preview of Final Fantasy XII ( 12 ), I realized that Square-Enix has repeatedly been influenced by Game Arts' RPG’s. Here are my best examples:
Lunar was the first console RPG to feature characters with distinct and varied personalities. Squaresoft later incorporated the use of personalities to create the characters in Final Fantasy VIII ( 8 ).
The next change came when Grandia, Game Arts' epic RPG for the Sega Saturn, was released. Here’s a quick description of Grandia’s Battle System: Enemies could be seen onscreen and avoided by the player. However, during battle, a horizontal Bar in the corner of the screen displayed an icon for each character. These Character Icons, starting from the left, moved to the right. When a character’s Icon reached the right side of the Bar, an attack could be chosen and executed by the player or computer. However, certain attacks could slow, stop, or change the position of a character’s Icon. ( In addition to effecting a character’s HP or MP. ) This was an interesting way to incorporate strategy into an RPG, and was reinvented for Squaresoft’s first PlayStation 2 RPG, Final Fantasy X ( 10 ).
In Final Fantasy X ( 10 ), during battle, a vertical Bar on the screen dictated whose turn would follow a specific action. However, this system was changed drastically from Grandia’s. In Final Fantasy X ( 10 ), certain choices would immediately change a character’s position on the vertical Bar – in Grandia, the effects took place after an action was executed.
Final Fantasy XII (12) marks the next big Game Arts influence - the "Active Dimension Battle" system. This is exactly like Grandia's system, where character positions onscreen change the amount of damage certain attacks can cause. While it probably won’t feature the Bar systems seen in Final Fantasy X ( 10 ) or Grandia, “ADB” promises to be similar in execution.

Fans of Game Arts' various works will immediately notice these influences, but these aren't complaints against Square-Enix. I've always enjoyed Game Arts' RPGs, ( Lunar 1 and 2 and Grandia were all ported to the PSOne. ) and I’ve always found it difficult to get into the Final Fantasy games due to Random Encounters. However, I have played all the mainstream Final Fantasy games up to this point, and it has been interesting to notice how Square-Enix has taken from Game Arts’ RPG’s to improve their own.

Any thoughts on these points?

[slayerx]

The battles in FFXI arent what i would cause random seen as low level you pretty much chose what u fight unless a Yag gets you

[gamingmonkey2004]

the monsters randomly pop up and attack..you really cannot run away...or im just unskilled in running

[draco04]

running away is very simple although no fun but after a while i somtimes even run because i'm trying to get somwere fast or do somthing important.

[rev>thanu]

Anyways here are some new gameplay pics of the game.
looks better by the week. The gameplay graphics look better than onimusha 3 and I'm not exaggerating.

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen0/459841_20040510_screen017.jpg


http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen0/459841_20040510_screen022.jpg


http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen0/459841_20040510_screen019.jpg


http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen0/459841_20040510_screen020.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen0/459841_20040510_screen014.jpg


http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen0/459841_20040510_screen023.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen0/459841_20040510_screen013.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen0/459841_20040510_screen018.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen0/459841_20040510_screen011.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen0/459841_20040510_screen009.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen0/459841_20040510_screen005.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen0/459841_20040510_screen008.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen0/459841_20040510_screen021.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen0/459841_20040510_screen016.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen0/459841_20040510_screen036.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen0/459841_20040510_screen035.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen0/459841_20040510_screen037.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen0/459841_20040510_screen038.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen0/459841_20040510_screen039.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen0/459841_20040510_screen044.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen0/459841_20040510_screen041.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen0/459841_20040510_screen045.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen0/459841_20040510_screen040.jpg

FOR SOME REASON WHEN I SEE THOSE IN GAME PICS THEY JUST GIVE ME THE FEELING THAT PS3 WILL BE ABLE TO DO THOSE CGI PICS IN REAL TIME.

[rev>thanu]

sorry about the double posting but i had to do this on a separate note.
was there a final fantasy game besides crystal chronicles coming to gamecube announced back in 2001. If there was i guess it's been canned because that final fantasy happens to be 12 but now is on ps2 only.

http://members.tripod.com/somicron/ff12preview/ffxii.jpg
http://members.tripod.com/somicron/ff12preview/gc-ffxii-cover.jpg

http://members.tripod.com/somicron/ff12preview/ff12promo.jpg

Or is this a fake because i have never heard of this announcement by Squaresoft back then.

[slayerx]

I love the high rendered pics very nice it does have a sutle vagrant story look may have to find that game it was great

[Matt]

There was supposed to be another FF game apart from Crystal Chronicles. I think that Square and Nintendo had a falling out though.

[slayerx]

I think they were going to make a game similar to legend of Mana which is right up nintendo's alley very cartoon like but very fun :)

[Matt]

They're developing another Mana game aren't they?

[slayerx]

they better i loved the 2 mana games i think Sword of mana was slighlt better than Legend but i would love to see a more updated graphic wise one and with a much longer game

[Matt]

I've only played the one on the SNES, although my copy is called Seiken Densetsu rather than Secret of Mana.

[Pumster]

Secret of Mana was my first Squaresoft RPG, and despite how glitchy it was, the game was awesome. The music was definitely different from other games, and the story was pretty original for a console title. As for future Square projects, I heard they were planning on making another Crystal Chronicles, but that could definitely change. Personally, I think Square-Enix has an incredible software line-up for the PS2. In addition, 2004 and 2005 will showcase one of the largest software line-ups for the company, with titles like Dragon Warrior VIII, Star Ocean 3, and Final Fantasy XII. :P

[rev>thanu]

you forgot kingdom hearts 2 & adven children the movie.

[Pumster]

you forgot kingdom hearts 2 & adven children the movie.
Hahaha, those were just some examples. Like I said before, Square-Enix's line-up has never been larger, and it's worth noting that most of these upcoming games are PS2 Exclusives. Here's a short list of the PS2 titles in development. ( In no particular order. )

Star Ocean III ( 3 ) - Till the End of Time (Director's Cut)
Final Fantasy XII ( 12 )
Kingdom Hearts II ( 2 )
Musashi Samurai Legend ( 2 )
Dragon Warrior VIII ( 8 )
Front Mission 4

Final Fantasy XI ( 11 ) Expansions - Girade no Genei
Final Fantasy VII ( 7 ) - Advent Children

I get the feeling I'm forgetting something, but who cares - that's a pretty sexy list right there. ( Does anyone have a spare $400? )

[Matt]

The only other one I can think of is the FFXI expansion pack. Chains of Promathia isn't it?

[Makaveli_786]

Im going to try and buy all FF's and KH's for every platform soon, ive become a convert recently..

What other RPG's etc do you guys recommend?

[Matt]

I'm sure that others will suggest loads more, but here's the ones I would recommend other than the Final Fantasy games.

Grandia. There are a couple of games on both the PS1 and 2.

Suikoden. You'll be very lucky to find a PAL copy of the first game for under £40 on eBay. Otherwise it's near impossible to buy. The same sort of goes for the second game, although I picked the game up without really knowing about it when it was released. Unfortunately, Suikoden III never even made it to the PAL regions, due to localisation problems. Which basically means that Konami couldn't be bothered to translate it for the Europeans. Strangely enough, Suikoden IV is supposed to be making it's way over here.

[CloudANDTidus]

Im going to try and buy all FF's and KH's for every platform soon, ive become a convert recently..

What other RPG's etc do you guys recommend?

*couth*Zelda*couth*

I also recormend Dark Chronicals and Sword of Mana.

All the FF's?
You do realise there are 21 Final Fantasy games....................
I surgest getting some emu's.

FF1
FF2
FF3
FF4
FF5
FF6
FF7
FF8
FF9
FF10
FF10-2
FF11
FF12
FF:Crystal Chronicals
FF:Mystic Quest
FF:Tatics
FF:Tatics Advance
FF:Legond 1
FF:Legond 2
FF:Legond 3
FF:Adventure (Sword of Mana.......but whos counting?)

[Makaveli_786]

LOL, theyll all be on emu's apart from PS2, PC and GC versions of the games.

[Matt]

True. Getting emu's is good, but I would just go for these ones if you're looking to buy the games:

Origins
Anthology
VII
VIII
IX
X
X-2

[CloudANDTidus]

I'm only missing 11,12 (wonder why..........), tatics and tatics advance.............
I also need a better emu of Mystic Quest.
My one is of crap quality.

[Matt]

Which platform were the legend games on?

[slayerx]

Snes i think

[CloudANDTidus]

Which platform were the legend games on?

Final Fantasy Legonds 1,2 and 3 where on the orginal gameboy.
There emu's are easyer to find than cookies.

[Pumster]

Personally, I can't recommend Anthology or Chronicles for the PSOne. Both games were made during Squaresoft's initial recovery period after the failure of the Final Fantasy movie. Therefore, these PSOne ports were not well programmed, and have an unforgivable number of shortcomings that bleed across each port. (However, I hear these issues were solved for Origins, the last compilation for the PlayStation.)
Waiting is the biggest factor for each game in the two packages, though. When switching between screens, even the Menu, there are long, 10-second waiting periods. (Yes, this includes battles.) These hinder the gameplay more than you'd expect, and, in most cases, become unbearable as you continue through each game. If you've got a Super Nintendo, go for the individual cartridge versions.

[CloudANDTidus]

I only noticed this problem in 6.
The european version of Anthology dosn't seem to have this problem.




Sadly, for the united kingdom, the PSone ports are the only (un-ilegal) way of playing the games..........
When will game companys learn how much we like RPG's............

[Matt]

Which platform were the legend games on?

Final Fantasy Legonds 1,2 and 3 where on the orginal gameboy.
There emu's are easyer to find than cookies.

Where they the ones where you could choose to be one of a couple of characters?

[CloudANDTidus]

Yep. That would be them...............

[Matt]

Ahh right. I remember briefly playing one of those when I was about 6. I'll have to get the emu's I think.

[CloudANDTidus]

Really, unless your like me and have the obseen disier to own and win every Final Fantasy made, theres little point.
I haven't got round to truely playing through the three games but from what I could tell, they wheren't the masterpeaces square are known for.....

I'm sure I read some where that like Final Fantasy Adventure which is part of the mana seris, Final Fantasy Legond 1,2,3 are part of the SaGa seris.........

[Matt]

Really, unless your like me and have the obseen disier to own and win every Final Fantasy made, theres little point.

Well I wouldn't mind all of the Final Fantasy games, I'm not doing too bad so far. But I'd just like to see if I can remember any of it from when I was little. It's a nostalgia thing I guess.

[CloudANDTidus]

A history lesson worth going to. :D

[Matt]

Yep. I've spent a lot of time buying old NES, Mega Drive and SNES games recently. I guess I've reached that age where you finally realise that it doesn't really get any better from this point onwards. So I'm desperately trying to relive my earlier years to try and drown out the depression that is later life. :)

[Pumster]

Hahaha, it's a horrible feeling, but you're right, Matt. Just a few days ago, I got my NES and Sega Genesis working again and right now, I'm reliving games like Double Dragon, Megaman 3, and, a personal favorite, Crystalis. Unfortunately, since I'm so cheap, buying old games just isn't an option - for example, over here, Shining Force II, the one great Genesis RPG, is $59.99! That's actually more than a brand new PS2 game! (Or, if we go back a few years, a brand new Nintendo 64 game.) The memories are great, but, unfortunately, there has to be that cut-off point to make time for other things in life. (That damn outside world - it's always trying to get us out into the sunlight!) Actually, that's probably why I won't be getting a PS3 or other next-generation console - I'm slowly getting worn out by these games, and I don't appreciate and enjoy them like I did back in the days of the NES and SNES.

Hahaha, I've had my moment.


http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen0/914983_20040526_screen001.jpg
Oops, back to reality.

[Matt]

Wow, that's a lot of money for Shining Force. Even though, it is a brilliant game. have you had a look on eBay, or was that how much it was on there?

[Pumster]

Hahaha, I was afraid to look, but chances are, it's a lot less. Personally, I was hoping the game, like many other Genesis titles, was part of the "lost gem" category - An awesome game for an exceptionally low price because no one knows about it. Hahaha, I know, it's not common, but it was worth a look. Since I'm not big on spending more than $10 for an old game, I won't even try buying it, but it's worth noting that it is an awesome Strategy RPG. (For a non-Squaresoft title, the ending was awesome!) In addition, Sega is working on two new titles in the series, both of which will be for the PS2. :D

[Matt]

Yea, I heard about that a while back, can't wait to see them.

Anyways, time to get back to FFXII I guess.

[Brad]

I dunno how well the final fantasy battle system will do...hope its something original. Apparently, we wont have the glass shattering random encounters and no winning music as the team defeats the monsters.

[Matt]

.....But.....But, they can't do that! :)

[CloudANDTidus]

If the screen dosn't change between walking around and battles, how does the game show your experience, gill earned and items gained?

I like looking at that screen.
It was bright and shinny.

[Matt]

My friend was talking about something like having the camera zoom in on the character when you got into a battle. Perhaps something like that?

Although, how could they even think about getting rid of the victory tune?!

[CloudANDTidus]

They allready riped it to shreds with every other tune in X-2.
The next step is pulling the pin on the granade and blowing it up. :shock:

[Matt]

True, but they've still had it in every Final Fantasy game. At least all of the ones I can remember anyway.

[CloudANDTidus]

Wasn't in Adventure.
True it isn't really a FF game, but still............

[Makaveli_786]

Built furniture and plant plants.. what more can you say :shock:

[Matt]

Looks like we've suddenly stepped into a Dark Cloud thread here.

[slayerx]

Ahh good old dark cloud now that brings back memories :)

[Brad]

http://www.ff12.com/







If the screen dosn't change between walking around and battles, how does the game show your experience, gill earned and items gained?

I like looking at that screen.
It was bright and shinny.

i got no clue..some of the guys at gamespot actually played ff12 at the e3 and this is some of what they had to say

This does not play like any previous Final Fantasy games. In fact, you could easily mistake it for an action adventure game rather than a standard console RPG, but don't take that remark the wrong way. All it means is that Final Fantasy XII does away with the awkward, yet ancient, role-playing conventions of random battles and jarring transitions between exploration and combat. Instead, in Final Fantasy XII, you'll never get taken out of the core gameplay experience, except when the game shows you a cinematic cutscene or when you access your status menus.

That means combat occurs seamlessly within the game's fully 3D environments--no screen-shattering, no your-guys-on-one-side-bad-guys-on-the-other-side battle screen, no signature Final Fantasy victory music as you collect your gil and cure potions after you win. None of that. And you know what? We got the distinct impression that this is the best thing to happen to the series in a while. By extension, it may well be representative of a refreshing, new direction for the console role-playing genre to head toward.



Far as ff x-2 goes...i saw some screenshots/movies a buncha months before the game was actually released, and i made up my mind about it. Its about the clouds, the seifers, the sephiroths and the kefkas.

And as for shit like ffx-2


http://www.imagepilot.com/img/shitlikethis.jpg

[Makaveli_786]

It looks pretty good to me, you dont like FFXII brad?

[Brad]

FF12 looks pretty sweet. I didn't like ffx-2 though

[Makaveli_786]

Oh ok

[Matt]

FFX-2 was OK I guess, probably my least favourite of the series though.

[Makaveli_786]

Man im sick of waiting, when does this game reach PAL :evil:

[Matt]

What, Final Fantasy XII?

It's not out anywhere yet, so you'll be waiting a fair while.

[Makaveli_786]

Any possible release date?

Man I swear the things ive heard about this game, you could get married in this game, testing the waters without getting in too deep!! :D

[Matt]

Q4 2004, but that's probably for the US, or even Japan. I'm not sure.

[Makaveli_786]

So say about Q1 2005 for us?

[Matt]

If we're lucky. I would take a wild guess at this time next year.

[Makaveli_786]

One whole year, damn PAL sucks ass :x

[Matt]

You do have to remember that RPGs always have longer delays, due to the text in the games having to be translated into different languages.

That's why games like Chrono Cross, Xenogears, Suikoden III and Xenosaga have never made it over here.

[Makaveli_786]

Ooh good point.

[Matt]

Konami's excuse for SIII was "Localisation problems", which basically meant that they couldn't be bothered to get off of their fat arses and translate the text.

[Illmatic]

This game looks like its gonna be the shit.
Can't wait :lol:

[Makaveli_786]

Anybody got a list of what you can do in this game?

[Brad]

well, from what i gather...its basically like you run into monsters and stuff during the course of your journey, instead of getting random battles and screen shattering. It'll be more like chrono cross, with the monsters walking around im guessing. But unlike most of square's old rpg's, there will be no screen shattering battle start, or the trademark battle end theme. No exp etc. They're saying that your first impression will be that of an action adventure game, but longer...more involving, etc.

you basically get a menu when an enemy is nearby and you get options like attack/defend/magic etc, and when the enemy dies you get his spirit which gives you some ability points. Its all seemlessly integrated with the gameplay...you run around the monster, attacking/defending and whatnot

[Illmatic]

Here's a hands on preview,
sounds like it's gonna be another 50+ hours well spent :wink:

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/rpg/finalfantasy12/preview_6097934.html

[Matt]

Hope that they get the time estimation right for once. They're always shorter than they say they are. Though, you can usually just walk around levelling-up to your hearts's content, so I guess time is nothing.

[Makaveli_786]

Depends on if your directly invovled with the story or doing other things.

[Matt]

Usually you can get through Final Fantasy games quite quickly if you stick purely to the story. It's the side-quests and hidden extras that adds longevity.

[Makaveli_786]

It takes me a while to get through RPG's because I dont stick to the story.

It should be like Fallout where you work for money and when you get more money you can buy better guns to fight bigger enemies, it extends the life of a game dramatically.

[slayerx]

i dunno FFVII said like 40 hours and lasted me at least 100 hours :)

[Makaveli_786]

Depends on your pace as well.

[Brad]

Depends on your pace as well.

That, and usually, the initial gameplay is 40-50 hours. but the side quests, the secrets, special weapons, mastering the game etc lasts for well over a 100 hours. I finished ff10 in about 3-40 hours, but it took me 180+ hours to become pro at it

[Makaveli_786]

180 hours swell spent I bet.

[Brad]

Yea...all ultimate weapons, special arena bosses downed, full sphere grid learnt and modified (deleting every +1 stat or low magic sphere with a +3) for all characters using the sphere drops offa the special calm land bosses, 255 in most stats and so on.

eventually i got more entertainment outta this 1 game than most ps2 games i've played so far.

[Matt]

Yea...all ultimate weapons, special arena bosses downed, full sphere grid learnt and modified (deleting every +1 stat or low magic sphere with a +3) for all characters using the sphere drops offa the special calm land bosses, 255 in most stats and so on.

That's what makes the game a bit more interesting. Well, interesting as far as an RPG gamer is concerned anyway.

[rev>thanu]

Link (http://media.ps2.ign.com/media/488/488222/vid_870399.html?mu=http%3A%2F%2Fxfersf01.fileplane t.com%2F%5E599306939%2Fmovies%2Fps2movies.ign.com% 2Fdocroot%2Fps2%2Fvideo%2Farticle%2F526%2F526499%2 Fff12_062504_trailer_qtlow.mov%3Fposition%3Dfront)

check this finalfantasy trailer out.

[CloudANDTidus]

Pitty I ant forking for an IGN acount. :roll:

[Brad]

Link (http://media.ps2.ign.com/media/488/488222/vid_870399.html?mu=http%3A%2F%2Fxfersf01.fileplane t.com%2F%5E599306939%2Fmovies%2Fps2movies.ign.com% 2Fdocroot%2Fps2%2Fvideo%2Farticle%2F526%2F526499%2 Fff12_062504_trailer_qtlow.mov%3Fposition%3Dfront)

check this finalfantasy trailer out.

gimme your insider account and i'll go check it

[Voyager]

Final Fantasy VII was my first venture into the world of Final Fantasy.
I remember when I got to the world map and found how big the game really was.
It took me 3 solid months to complete.

I missed out Final Fantasy VIII and IX, but I would like to go back and do them.

I went straight to Final Fantasy X which was another shock to find how big a game it was.
It took me 1 whole year to complete easily a 100+ hours.
Like some of you lot I did alot of the side areas and obtained most of the special weapons.

The endings to the Final Fantasy games are the best ever, not many games come any where close.
They really do give you that satisfaction of good job well done.

Well I'm approaching the end of Final Fantasy X-2 at the moment. which is a superb sequal to Final Fantasy X. I've clocked easily 80+ hours so far, many playing sphere break in Luca.
They should bring that game out as a seperate game.

I'm certainly looking forward to future Final Fantasy games, although Final Fantasy XII is going down a different route to what we currently know. :D

[CloudANDTidus]

If you liked VII and X (and amazingly you really liked X-2) you really should hit your self in the head for not getting VIII and IX and rush to the store NOW!

Specialy if you liked Sphere Break. Terra Master (IX) and FF8's card game are far better and more fun.

[rev>thanu]

Link (http://media.ps2.ign.com/media/488/488222/vid_870399.html?mu=http%3A%2F%2Fxfersf01.fileplane t.com%2F%5E599306939%2Fmovies%2Fps2movies.ign.com% 2Fdocroot%2Fps2%2Fvideo%2Farticle%2F526%2F526499%2 Fff12_062504_trailer_qtlow.mov%3Fposition%3Dfront)

check this finalfantasy trailer out.

gimme your insider account and i'll go check it

i don't think so :lol:

you can check the trailer out here for free
http://www.gametrailers.com/gt_vault/t_finalfantasy_12_e3_2k4.html

[Matt]

Sort of old news, but it hasn't been posted on here:

Square Enix has opened a new Final Fantasy XII "sub site," (http://www.ff12.com/special/index.html) which will be releasing new information and media on the game while the main site is closed for "repairs."

"The official site is currently in preparations for a renewal. We're sorry for all the fans that have been waiting a long time for an update. Until the renewal is complete, please check out the latest information from this 'special issue site,'" comments Square Enix on the new site.

The site currently hosts two sections: one for screenshots and one that is an introduction page to the characters. The site also has a story section and a download section, which will go live in the near future.

The character section features information on two characters that weren't revealed on the main site, Penelo and Basch. Penelo is a 16-year-old Hume and is the girlfriend of the main character, Vaan. Though Penelo lost her family during the previous war, she lives a cheerful life by helping out in a bazaar. A singer and dancer, she is also skilled in the military art she learned from her brother, who was a knight.

Basch is a general working for the Dalmascan army. A 36-year-old Hume, Basch is known for his heroism in battle and his strong sense of justice. However, Basch killed the Dalmascan king during its treaty ceremony with the Arcadia Empire. Why he did so is unknown but will likely be explained during the game.

Final Fantasy XII is planned for release on the PlayStation 2 sometime in the winter of 2004 or spring of 2005. No retail price has been announced.

Source: Gamespot (http://www.gamespot.com/)

[Sk Manga]

i heard it was comig winter 2005

[Matt]

To start off the date was Q4 2004, and it's slipped back to 2005. No specific part of the year yet.

[Crono]

I hope they do a decent PAL conversion of FFXII this time! Not like the squashed FFX.

[dragonlance]

Hehe, we dont use palsicam here. :P

[gamingmonkey2004]

maybe it will release in first quarter of 2005 and maybe it will port or a copy onto PSP you know just when your parents are like LETS GO! you grab your PSP and at a Svae Spot there can be a thing where its like save to PSP. or something...i dunno just an idea to throw out there

[draco04]

hmmm...really...yah you did throw that one out there..WAY out there..but you never know maybe in one of the FF games in the future will.... but probily not this game...so but you did throw it out that seems like a good topic to start... :D i think i will.

[gamingmonkey2004]

hmmm...really...yah you did throw that one out there..WAY out there..but you never know maybe in one of the FF games in the future will.... but probily not this game...so but you did throw it out that seems like a good topic to start... :D i think i will.

well being that there wasnt a post in here since aug 11 i think i could start it all over with something new

[Z]

to add to agony, they were going to let FFX-2 be the story of Auron, Jecht and Yuna's father. How they encountered Sin, and their amazing story.... instead, they give me three girls that keeps playng dressup for 30 hours!
I could just doe :cry:

[gamingmonkey2004]

lol really? they were going to make X-2 about auron and Jecht...now there a good game...

HEY LOOK IM A FROG!!...arnt they a little old for dress up?

[\\']-[()619]

i hope there is better weapons :)

[Illmatic]

Sorry bout the length, but here goes.


Everything We Know: Final Fantasy XII (PS2)

The name "Final Fantasy" conjures up different images for different people. For some, it might call to mind the Dark Knight Cecil, rebelling against the corrupt kingdom of Baron. For others, a quartet of pixelated adventurers chasing after the rat's tail and hanging out in Corneria. Yet others will remember the blowing of the Mako Reactor in Midgar, or a grand Blitzball tournament in Zanarkand. Really, the Final Fantasy series is very much defined by just how different each subsequent entry is from the last.

Accidental Success

It wasn't always planned that way. In fact, back in 1987 Square didn't have much of a plan at all past releasing Final Fantasy and hoping that it sold. But sell it did, riding on the winds of the RPG phenomenon started by Enix's Dragon Quest a year before. Square was saved, a sequel was begun, and Final Fantasy failed to live up to its name. This fantasy was just beginning.

After three chapters on the Famicom (NES), the series made the leap to 16-bit with the Super Famicom's Final Fantasy IV (SNES's Final Fantasy II). More than just a technical upgrade, FFIV changed the rules of RPG storytelling. Tiny sprites were imbued with rich characterizations and complex motivations -- complex, at least, compared to what had come before. The plot roiled with twists, surprises and betrayals, all scored to the most dramatic and beautiful video game music ever heard. FFIV was like an epic opera playing out on a SNES, and it would serve as the model for most future console RPGs.

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Two more 16-bit sequels followed to refine that formula, and then the series was reinvented again on the PlayStation. The long-awaited Final Fantasy VII combined pre-rendered CGI with 3D polygons for an amazing increase in production values. Pre-rendered backgrounds segued smoothly into CGI movies, enveloping players in a dark world of technology gone awry. In the States, Sony put a huge marketing budget behind the launch of FFVII, and many people bought it for the pretty graphics, without even really understanding the concept of an "RPG." They soon did, though, and would soon form the backbone of a greatly expanded North American fanbase.

Things just got glitzier from there. FFVIII featured yet more realistic CGI, while FFIX employed the technology in a strange attempt to return to the series' original, super-deformed look. With another trilogy completed, Final Fantasy's creators looked to the future once more. The future they saw was on the PlayStation 2.

A New Generation of Fantasies

In terms of cinematic presentation, Final Fantasy X took its cue from the PlayStation games, only its backgrounds were rendered in real-time. As with the sprites of years ago, extensive story scenes were acted out with the use of the in-game character models, which were, in a series first, fully voice-acted. The increased dramatic flair lead to a game that was felt linear than ever, but the rich presentation, enjoyable characters and solid game system won over legions of fans.

But then something strange happened. FFXI became a massively multiplayer online game, devoid of the usual single-player, highly linear storyline Final Fantasy games had become known for. Then another odd thing occurred -- FFX got a direct sequel, in the form of Final Fantasy X-2! It continued the story of the world of Spira, albeit with a much lighter sensibility. But a sequel to a Final Fantasy game? Unheard of! Change was clearly afoot at Square, which had now merged with longtime rival Enix.

While it will be hard to top the radical divergence of FFXI, perhaps the biggest changes are yet to come. Final Fantasy XII is deep into development, and its gameplay bears only token similarities to any Final Fantasy that's come before. In fact, in some ways it's most similar to the MMORPG, FFXI. The changes really run deep in this one, and it has the potential to alienate fans. It could also be the freshest thing to happen to the series in years.

The Freshmaker?

A lot of Final Fantasy XII's massive changes can be traced back to one person: its director, Yasumi Matsuno. Matsuno is responsible for the highly successful Ogre Battle and Final Fantasy Tactics series, which suggests that FFXII could take on a more tactical aspect than prior games. But he's also the fellow behind 2000's extremely complicated Vagrant Story, which some people believe added far too much needless complication and abstraction to various aspects of its game system.

Matsuno's past body of work suggests that he's a meticulous craftsman with an eye for detail, be it in the form of strategic gameplay or ornately drawn graphics. He also seems to enjoy European names and visual motifs. But other signs, primarily the complicated Vagrant Story, suggest a tendency toward complexity for the sake of complexity and number-twiddling micro-management. In short, Matsuno is both a fascinating and a controversial choice to helm a new Final Fantasy

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One obvious sign of Matsuno's influence is that Final Fantasy XII takes place in the world of Ivalice, known previously as the world in which Final Fantasy Tactics and Final Fantasy Tactics Advance took place. While FFXII occurs in a different time period than FFTA, you can expect to see many familiar elements you may have previously glimpsed in the GBA game. A rabbit-eared Viera woman, for example, will play a prominent role in the storyline. Speaking of which ...

The Story

Final Fantasy XII will tell the story of Rabanastre, the royal city of the township of Dalmasca. A peaceful place of beauty and high technology, Rabanastre sits between the warring empires of Archadia and Rosalia. Alas, Rabanastre's tranquility abruptly ends when the Archadians invade, presumably in an attempt to gain a strategic advantage over its enemies in Rosalia. Rabanastre falls, and an oppressive new regime begins.

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That's all history, though -- the invasion happens two years before the beginning of the game. When FFXII's story truly begins, Rabanastre is still under the control of the Archadians, and its remaining people are powerless to resist. A 17 year-old kid, Vaan, lives as a street urchin of sorts; he steals and swindles to survive, but dreams of a future free of the Archadians. As the RPG gods have smiled upon him, he'll get a chance to make that far-flung dream a reality.

The Characters

Vaan

~ A boy who would be a sky pirate. ~

Vaan is the main character of Final Fantasy XII, the Rabanastrean youth who yearns to be free of the Archadian yolk, dreaming of a future as an airship-faring sky pirate. ""Someday, I'll fly an airship of my own! A sky pirate, free to go where I will." He's also a member of the anti-Archadian resistance, which will shortly lead him into the adventure of a lifetime.

Sadly, Vaan's parents were killed two years ago during the initial Archadian invasion, which goes a long way toward explaining his disadvantaged lifestyle. He does have an older brother named Rekt (or possibly Reks) who's in the royal guard, but they seem to be separated when the game begins. In fact, Rekt is quite possibly dead.

Vaan follows in the footsteps of FFX's lead character, Tidus, in that he's got something of a femininity to his appearance. While he has a good sense of style, I wouldn't say he's too feminine for his own good. And he certainly doesn't look like Meg Ryan.

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Penelo

~A girl who wants peace~

Penelo seems to be something like Vaan's girlfriend, at least as the game starts out. She's a talented dancer and singer, and quite the cutie besides. One scene of the trailer shows her admonishing Vaan for his thieving ways -- quite indignant by the looks of it. It's thought that Penelo will be Vaan's main love interest, though rumors indicate that the romantic subplot will not be as developed as in FFX.

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Basch

~A loyal knight who becomes a traitor~

Basch is a member of Dalmascan royal guard, seemingly among the upper ranks of soldiers. Vaan's brother Rekt appears to be a subordinate of his. Though supposedly loyal to the King of Dalmasca, Basch assassinates him early in the story. He defends his actions, saying, "The king meant to sell Dalmasca ... His majesty was the traitor." Basch's face exudes strength and dignity, quite the opposite of what you'd expect in a traitor.

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Rekt

Rekt is the older brother of Vaan, who is serving the Dalmascan guard during the time of the Archadian invasion. The E3 trailer shows him arguing with Basch, and rumor has it that Basch kills him. Perhaps he raised objections to Basch's role in the Dalmascan king's demise?

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Balthier

~He flies the skies of Ivalice. The sky pirate.~

Balthier is a 22 year-old sky pirate, a freedom-loving rogue who somehow becomes involved in Vaan's adventures. From the brief glimpses of him afforded thus far, he seems to be more of a gentleman rogue than a rogue rogue; he speaks with a dry, perhaps world-weary manner. He's also an accomplished gunfighter, and has a Viera partner named Fran.

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Fran

~She wields any weapon with ease. His partner.~

Fran is a viera, a mostly female race of warriors that sport huge, rabbit-like ears. You might have seen them recently in Final Fantasy Tactics Advance. Not much is known about Fran's personality at the moment, other than that she's Balthier's partner and apparently a master of many weapons.

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Ashe

~A princess. When all is lost, she builds it anew.~

The 19 year-old Ashe is the ninth child of the King of Dalmasca, and the only surviving heir to the throne. However, she has other business to take care of first, joining the resistance after the fall of Rabanastre. She hopes to lead her people to freedom, and really should try to find a longer skirt.

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Judge

Judges are the arbiters of justice in the world of Ivalice, though it's not known if they're affiliated with any one country. My guess, simply based on a few scraps of info and the E3 trailer, is that they originate from the Archadian Empire. Balthier certainly seems worried when confronted with one in the E3 trailer. The Judges have hulking bodies and two wickedly twisted swords. In fact, you can see one in FFXII's official logo, so you know they'll play a significant part in the storyline

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The Races

Just as in Final Fantasy XI and Final Fantasy Tactics, FFXII's Ivalice is a world of many races. Here are the ones we've seen so far.

Humes: Humes are what we would call humans. They're largely responsible for the clashing empires that provide the impetus for FFXII's storyline. Many different cultures of Humes exist, just like in our world. Hume intelligence is the standard by which other races are judged, and there are races both above and below this level. Humes use some of the lesser-gifted races as slaves, while the more intelligent races often try to avoid attracting undue Hume attention.

Moogles: The classic Final Fantasy creature has been reimagined for the world of Ivalice, and now look somewhat like bipedal bunnies. With wings, mind you. Moogles are highly intelligent creatures and are responsible for much of Ivalice's amazing technology, including its fabulous airships. Perhaps because of this, Humes tend to respect Moogles, despite their cuteness and small stature.

Seeq: The Seeq have a hog-like appearance, and a similar level of intelligence. If they happen to speak Hume, it may still be hard to understand. Strong and fast, Seeq are well-suited to becoming warriors and mercenaries.

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Viera: The odd, lithe bunny-women are called Viera. Viera are outstanding hunters, with super-human senses and great strength. Viera come in light and dark-skinned varieties; mixed-race (light/dark) Viera are most likely to live among Humes, with the pure-blooded varieties preferring to stick to ancestral forests.

Bangaa: This reptilian race has a Hume-like level of intelligence, but occupies a lower rung in society due to its bestial appearance. Like the Seeq, Bangaa are very swift and make great warriors. They also have unique potential as mages.

Are there any more races? It's quite possible. However, it's worth noting that all of the party members revealed thus far have been Hume, with the sole exception of the Viera Fran. It'll be interesting to see if any of the more exotic races can be incorporated into the party, or if they'll simply serve as NPCs and enemies.

New World, New Viewpoint

Ever since Final Fantasy VII, Final Fantasy games have featured fixed camera angles. Sure, they moved a bit in Final Fantasy X, but you never had any real control over which direction to look at any given time. That all changes with Final Fantasy XII, the first single-player Final Fantasy to offer a controllable 3D camera. The camera system looks to be very similar to Final Fantasy XI's, only now with the enhanced graphical richness possible in a dedicated single-player game.

This is more exciting than it might sound at first. The world of Final Fantasy XII will be the most realistic ever seen in the series, both in terms of layout and architecture. Now that you can look any which way, Square's artists will have to construct their worlds to a hitherto unseen standard of detail. There will be numerous obscure nooks and crannies for the attentive player to notice, and the feeling of environmental immersion will be another series high.

The fancy new camera will be used for more than just gameplay, as a majority of FFXII's hours and hours of cutscenes will now be acted out in-engine. Square achieved good results with this technique in FFX, but are going further with it now. Full-motion video (FMV) sequences will still be scattered throughout the game, but they'll be the exception rather than the rule. I used to have trepidations over the use of in-engine assets for cutscenes, but the awesome cinematics of Metal Gear Solid cured me of that. I have no doubt that Square-Enix will achieve a similar quality in FFXII's in-game cinemas, leading to better immersion and an easier sense of identification with the characters.

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In addition to the newfound feeling of immersion, another important aspect of the new camera system is that all battles will now occur in the very same environments you explore on foot. No more fade to black or screen shatter -- the battle will occur instantaneously, wherever you happen to be in the current environment. Encounters won't be random, either; as in FFXI, all enemies will be visible as you approach, leaving you the option to avoid combat if you so desire. Now that Final Fantasy has finally adopted this technique, might it become the CRPG norm? Quite possible, and not a moment too soon. Random encounters are so 1986.

So, combat.

The Battle System

While the addition of a free-floating camera is huge, it pales in comparison to the changes Square's making to the familiar Final Fantasy battle system. In short, it's like no Final Fantasy you've ever seen. The classic Active Time Battle (ATB) system, which has been around since FFIV, is being replaced with the new Active Dimension Battle (ADB) system. While there are some similarities to ATB (such as the presence of the old ATB bars, which must be filled before an action can occur) FFXII is really blazing a new path for itself.

Gone are the familiar columns of characters -- enemies on the left, allies on the right. Your characters will now run wherever they need to attack, even splitting up if need be. Likewise, the enemies can move and pursue however they please. You'll only control one party member at a time, issuing commands in near real-time (again, you have to wait for the character's ATB bar to fill before anything can actually happen). Just like in FFXI, if you tell a character to attack something it will keep attacking until it gets different orders or its target dies.

Luckily, you can hop around between characters at any time, issuing them different commands as deemed necessary. However, you can't reliably control multiple characters at once (at least not well), so that's where gambits come in. Gambits appear to be items that can be obtained and then equipped onto a character. Each gambit will trigger different actions; one might make a character mimic the actions of the current player-controlled character, while another could make the character attack on its own initiative. Clearly, the details are still murky. It sounds like gambits will play a huge role in both how battles play out and in character customization, though.

Of course, now that battle happens in the actual game environments, you'll need to take positioning and line of sight into account as well. For example, it's thought that characters who fire down on enemies from above will have an attack bonus. This and many similar rules and circumstances will hopefully let FFXII make the most of its lovely new battlegrounds.

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The Sound

No Final Fantasy is complete without an epic soundtrack, and longtime Matsuno collaborator Hitoshi Sakimoto will be the composer behind Final Fantasy XII. Sakimoto-san has a very strong resume -- Radiant Silvergun, Vagrant Story, Final Fantasy Tactics -- so fans can rest assured that the soundtrack is in able hands. The word is that Sakimoto-san will be creating a more energetic score than usual, presumably to reflect the game's bright and sunny visuals and sense of high adventure. Legendary Final Fantasy composer Nobuo Uematsu will also be contributing the game's main theme, which will have a theme of "love." Last but not least, FFXII will support five-channel Dolby Pro Logic II in both gameplay and cinematic scenes. If you've got the proper equipment, the effect would be awesome.

And That's...

...pretty much everything we know at this point. Final Fantasy XII still has a ways to go before it's released in Japan, let alone America. The Japanese date is merely 2005, and we can only speculate about an American debut at this point. Late 2005 would make sense given Square-Enix's past localization lag, and even 2006 could be feasible. It's clearly going to be a very late release over here, appearing in the twilight days of the PlayStation 2. If everything discussed in this article pans out, though, Matsuno-san will have given the system one heck of a send-off.



Got this info from Gamespy (http://ps2.gamespy.com/playstation-2/final-fantasy-xii/543903p1.html).

[RC Cola]

Accidental Success

It wasn't always planned that way. In fact, back in 1987 Square didn't have much of a plan at all past releasing Final Fantasy and hoping that it sold. But sell it did, riding on the winds of the RPG phenomenon started by Enix's Dragon Quest a year before. Square was saved, a sequel was begun, and Final Fantasy failed to live up to its name. This fantasy was just beginning.

I remember watching a show about FF and how it started. This was pretty cool. IIRC, I think they called it Final Fantasy because it was their Final Fantasy. I think they had made some duds and they had one last shot at making a game that would sell.

Thanks for the info. I got a bit of nostalgia reading it along with some anticipation for the FFXII. Just wish it didn't take so long to come out. :(

[gamingmonkey2004]

what scares me the most about this game now is that it reminds me alot of FFIX...with FFX characters...a pansy main character with horrible plot great..at least in 9 the main character was some what of a man for a 10 year old..and may i add had a monkey tail

[Kiosko]

Well i've been reading up on FFXII for two years now. It looks like we'll have another hit since FFVII. 8)

[gamingmonkey2004]

lets hope so...lets hope so..
that way people will stop with the REMAKE FFVII!!! BLAH BLAH!!

[Z]

I loved FF7, but I especially loved FF8 & FFX - I can't even make up my mind which is better.

So because FF12 looks similar to both I am very excited about it. FF9 was, for me at least, O.K at the most. I just don't fansy kiddy midget drawings that much. :shock:

[gamingmonkey2004]

I loved FF7, but I especially loved FF8 & FFX - I can't even make up my mind which is better.

So because FF12 looks similar to both I am very excited about it. FF9 was, for me at least, O.K at the most. I just don't fansy kiddy midget drawings that much. :shock:

9 was the worst then close behind is FFpornoX-2...or FFXXX2

[Z]

Ok, don't start yelling at me, this is my opinion:
I absolutly hated FF X-2 and every second of it. GOD!! the only thing that was worth were the CG, which were few and far between. I mean COME ON, what final fantasy in history (ok since FF7) didn'y have a finishing CG?! No, having an ugly dressed-almost naked girl on a plain yelling "faster, Higher" and acting like a cute baby is not an ending CG. and if you think it was; get in a sorority sister group, if you are not already in one
that's the whole point for me, to treat my self to a freakin' amazing CG ending that makes you want to play the hole thing again non stop. after the song CG in FF X2 in the rain...that's it. just turn off of the machine, no more CG.
For, one of the BIG reasone to play FF is because of the surreal CG that makes your hair fall in excitment.
Kingdom Hearts hooked me up with its CG opening. Then I got bored as hell and hated the game. when I finished, the gave me an Excellent ending CG that made me love every minuet of it.
I cant wait for FF7: Advent Children. nothing but CG all the way baby. God I love squareenix. :D

[rev>thanu]

Ok, don't start yelling at me, this is my opinion:
I absolutly hated FF X-2 and every second of it. GOD!! the only thing that was worth were the CG, which were few and far between. I mean COME ON, what final fantasy in history (ok since FF7) didn'y have a finishing CG?! No, having an ugly dressed-almost naked girl on a plain yelling "faster, Higher" and acting like a cute baby is not an ending CG. and if you think it was; get in a sorority sister group, if you are not already in one
that's the whole point for me, to treat my self to a freakin' amazing CG ending that makes you want to play the hole thing again non stop. after the song CG in FF X2 in the rain...that's it. just turn off of the machine, no more CG.
For, one of the BIG reasone to play FF is because of the surreal CG that makes your hair fall in excitment.
Kingdom Hearts hooked me up with its CG opening. Then I got bored as hell and hated the game. when I finished, the gave me an Excellent ending CG that made me love every minuet of it.
I cant wait for FF7: Advent Children. nothing but CG all the way baby. God I love squareenix. :D

lol i guess you didn't get the perfect ending of FFX-2. :lol:
There are over 4 endings in FFX-2.

The perfect ending, yes they show Yuna saying, higher, faster etc. Then the credits role and Jade from sweetbox starts to sing 1000 words. then after that the ending picks up againg were it was left on FFX were they show tidus waking up from his dream and faiths around him. he wakes up swims up and guess what? he's on besaid island. he swims to shore and at that same moment the ship yuna's in comes from the sky. makes a rough landing and yuna jumps off and runs to tidus and hugs him. then this coversation takes place.

YUNA SAYS
Are Your Real?.

TIDUS SAYS
I think so.
(Yuna touches him looks againg, smiles.)
Do i pass

YUNA SAYS
HUM

YUNA SAYS
you're back

TIDUS SAYS
I am back.
I'm home.

YUNA SAYS
welcome home...
yes home(hugs him againg).

(then Rikku and Paine get out of the ship they look at each other and give off a smile.)

WAKKA SAYS
(from a far distance)
Hey get a room you too.
(they show everybody the gang of FFX knew from besaid island.)
Wass up.

TIDUS SAYS
who asked you to watch wakka.
(wakka smiles)
(lulu smiles and they show lulu's baby)

(then they show yuna and tidus againg. tidus grabs yunas hand and they both run to shore. then yuna runs faster than tidus getting ahead of him.)

TIDUS SAYS
you know you've changed.

YUNA SAYS
well you missed a few things.

TIDUS SAYS
I wanna Hear everything.

YUNA SAYS
well it all began when i say this sphere of you....
______________________________________________
After that.
There is another clip (is not in CGI) were Tidus and Yuna have a conversation in zanarkand and then that's the true and perfect ending.
if you don't know how to get it well get a guide.


also might i meantion your no RPG fan. you just play these games to see the CGIs and nothing else. that's something simple to solve. download the CG scenes online. Your definetely no RPG fan so don't force it because you will hate the genre more and more. Plus IMO FFX-2 was the funnest final fanatasy i've played. The battle system was great, might i add it wasn't refined to be the best, but it worked for me. is a real time battle system making it more strategic. making the game more interesting and making you respond faster on your attacks etc. i liked it, some of the missions were pointless and had nothing to do with the storyline but all those extra things and mini games made the game really fun to me. If you don't like kingdom Hearts well we have a big problem then, because that really means that you don't like RPGs at all. like i said just download trailers etc. because that's just not the attitude of a real gamer.

[RC Cola]

I got to agree with rev>thanu, if I understood you (Z) right. The CGI scenes are great and are something that I do enjoy watching when I get one of these later FF's. However, it is far from one of the deciding things which defines a good game from a crap game or whatever, IMO. I think RPG's, like FF, depend more on the stories, battle systems, and music than CGI scenes in order to be great, at least IMO. In fact, I like playing those older games with great stories, great battle systems, and great music that either don't have CGI scenes or CGI scenes that look nothing like today's CGI scenes. In fact, I'm playing Disgaea: Hour of Darkness, a Tactical RPG, right now and I love it. So far, I've seen no CGI scenes and all the characters are 2d sprites. But so far, I love the game.

I also agree with rev>thanu about FF X-2 being pretty fun. I didn't really want to play it, given the fact that I felt as though they were doing more harm than good with the game, but after playing, I at least at a fun time. The story did nothing to really change my opinion of it, but the battle system was pretty fun. I also found myself laughing at how goofy the game was. I would have preferred a game that was a little more serious, but it did succeed in being fun, even if a lot of stuff in it didn't really make much sense.

[gamingmonkey2004]

im opposite. i thought the game play and everything was really good...and hte story line sucked

[RC Cola]

Opposite of who? I think both rev>thanu and I didn't really give props to the story, although I shouldn't be speaking for him. I didn't really come out and say it but I didn't really like the story either, although I did say something about it not changing my opinion of what I thought about the game before playing it, which was that it sucked. But I loved the gameplay.

[gamingmonkey2004]

oops...i missread it
"I also agree with rev>thanu about FF X-2 being pretty fun."

part messed me up so i thought you liked it a little. anyway yea i dont know to many people who like it unless they are fat freaks that like computer generated chicks

[RC Cola]

I meant fun literally, as in I had fun playing it (gameplay), not that I loved the game. However, like I was trying to say, although I don't know if I said it well enough, the game is fun, but the story, along with other thing, certainly didn't make it gain any points in my book. If it wasn't for the fun factor, I would have hated it with a passion. I still don't rank it very high compared to the other FF games, but for what it was (a game meant to be fun) I thought it was