PS3 Design Discussion Thread Part 1

[macpakitywak]

psx is still a console eh? will i would just like to know the definition of a console then, pecause if you compare a ps2 to a NES, a ps2 seems to do a hell of a lot more, but the ps2 is still a console supposedly by today's standards...you're relying on definitions that are constantly changing and evolving, and maybe sony is trying to move beyond the pure game console perception that people seem to have about the playstation brand, and in turn draw more people towards their product, hence selling MORE ps3 hardware....you can keep living in the past if you want omega, but the fact is the ps3 will probably come in multiple forms, as sony has seemed to be hinting at with the idea that cell processors will be very prevalent in upcoming products, making it likely that implementing ps3 technology in some high end home theatre products, including very expensive tv's for the super rich, will become a likely option...so unless you can come up with a better argument then basically saying "you're idea is stupid", i will move on from this, considering my argument seems to make the most SENSE when considering the market today....anyway, since most of the people on this forum cant think beyond the idea that a ps3 will be nothing but a game machine and lack any vision whatsoever, i will try and limit myself to this very restriced (and increasingly boring due to peoples' close-mindedness) topic in the future

[KlawHammer]

Fine then, PSX is not a console, its a "home entertainment system"that happens to play PS2 games."

[macpakitywak]

even more evidence for you people who think sony would never think of bulding a tv with a built in ps3:

http://www.sonystyle.ca/html/images/pcvv_product_top.jpg

basically its a sony vaio thats a LCD tv, has a dvd/dvd-r drive on the side, and has a sleek all-in-one design...sound familiar? im now even more certain that sony will offer a high-end tv with built-in ps3 hardware and psx type functions...so screw all of you who think sony wouldnt even consider making this type of device, because they already HAVE...god i love it when im right

the URL for the product is: http://www.sonystyle.ca/commerce/servlet/ProductDetailDisplay?storeId=10001&catalogId=10001 &langId=-1&productId=173095
watch the flash movie, it shows the features of the product, and calls it a "media centre"...and btw omega: YOU LOSE

[NickSCFC]

Sony VAIO's are very smart, but also quite expensive.

[gamingmonkey2004]

psx is still a console eh? will i would just like to know the definition of a console then, pecause if you compare a ps2 to a NES, a ps2 seems to do a hell of a lot more, but the ps2 is still a console supposedly by today's standards...you're relying on definitions that are constantly changing and evolving, and maybe sony is trying to move beyond the pure game console perception that people seem to have about the playstation brand, and in turn draw more people towards their product, hence selling MORE ps3 hardware....you can keep living in the past if you want omega, but the fact is the ps3 will probably come in multiple forms, as sony has seemed to be hinting at with the idea that cell processors will be very prevalent in upcoming products, making it likely that implementing ps3 technology in some high end home theatre products, including very expensive tv's for the super rich, will become a likely option...so unless you can come up with a better argument then basically saying "you're idea is stupid", i will move on from this, considering my argument seems to make the most SENSE when considering the market today....anyway, since most of the people on this forum cant think beyond the idea that a ps3 will be nothing but a game machine and lack any vision whatsoever, i will try and limit myself to this very restriced (and increasingly boring due to peoples' close-mindedness) topic in the future
they might do something like make it do more functions but not in the PS3
even more evidence for you people who think sony would never think of bulding a tv with a built in ps3:

http://www.sonystyle.ca/html/images/pcvv_product_top.jpg

basically its a sony vaio thats a LCD tv, has a dvd/dvd-r drive on the side, and has a sleek all-in-one design...sound familiar? im now even more certain that sony will offer a high-end tv with built-in ps3 hardware and psx type functions...so screw all of you who think sony wouldnt even consider making this type of device, because they already HAVE...god i love it when im right

the URL for the product is: http://www.sonystyle.ca/commerce/servlet/ProductDetailDisplay?storeId=10001&catalogId=10001 &langId=-1&productId=173095
watch the flash movie, it shows the features of the product, and calls it a "media centre"...and btw omega: YOU LOSE

all that is is a computer with a big screen ooo.

[NickSCFC]

Doesn't have a big screen at all.

[gamingmonkey2004]

well its big enough to watch tv on it..thats not much of anything pretty much all Computers have a CD burner/DVD burner. and just making it big enough and having a cable input on the back isnt that big of a deal. but making something complete all-in-one entertainment center is crazy. cause it would cost alot and making it just for the rich is stupid cause they are either tight with their money and there are very few that would spend thousands of dollars on it. plus for just kids they have to buy a freaking TV to get the Playstation!?

[NickSCFC]

Crazy? Pretty soon all the big companies like Sony, Microsoft, Philips, Toshiba, Sanyo and JVC wil be producing these "all in one entertainment systems" (which will retail for about £250) and technology such as DVD players, Hi-Fi's and VCR's will be a thing of the past.

[gamingmonkey2004]

so tell me will it have a PS3, DVD player, VCR, TV, tuner, surround sound, internet ready, HTDV, and some other crap for £250? doubt it. i dont even think that Sony thing would be about £250

[NickSCFC]

It doesn't need all that stuff! A PC can allready do all that and all it needs is the software to make it easier to use. Most of the big brands have deals with Linux (apart from Microsoft) to develop operating systems for these "all in one" systems.

[gamingmonkey2004]

what is all in one? what is all in it?

[NickSCFC]

Basically it's like a PSX. It has a DVD recorder, a hard disc, a TV tuner and broadband connection. It allows you to watch TV, record it, download music and video. Basically it's like a PC but alot more simple and sits under your TV.

[gamingmonkey2004]

a super TiVo yea big deal its not like its a freaking TV and a PS3

[NickSCFC]

What the fuck are you on about?

[gamingmonkey2004]

what? i just think putting a PS3/PSX in a flat screen tv is stupid

[NickSCFC]

You do know that Sony VAIO is the name given to its PCs and that this latest model just combines the system with a monitor.

[gamingmonkey2004]

by systems what do you mean? a PSX? and yes i know about VAIO

[NickSCFC]

No, the new VAIO is a PC and monitor in one.

[gamingmonkey2004]

really? i usually buy my PC without a monitor dont you nick?

[NickSCFC]

I buy a package which includes the PC, monitor and whatever else you need, it's better to have everything matching.

[gamingmonkey2004]

yea...will you get to your point? are you trying to say thats what sony is doing is put everything in one? like the PC goes with the monitor and the PS goes with the tv

[NickSCFC]

Not at all.

[gamingmonkey2004]

then whats your point?

[NickSCFC]

It has nothing to do with putting everything into one. Tell me, does your PC have Windows XP Media Center Edition?

[gamingmonkey2004]

no just home edition

[NickSCFC]

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/mediacenter/default.asp

Have a look at this. Basically what it does is makes your PC function like a home entertainment system and uses a remote. You could do with having a look at it.

[gamingmonkey2004]

this has to do with PS3? or design?

[NickSCFC]

That didn't make sense at all.

[KlawHammer]

Whats going on?

[gamingmonkey2004]

this has to do with PS3? or design?
i was saying that we are arguing over something that doesnt have to do with the topic or PS3...unless you were trying to make a point and plus i made that post fast cause i had to go to bed

[NickSCFC]

Anyway, don't expect anything to radical in terms of design. Most likely it'll look very bland (though stylish) like PSX.

[gamingmonkey2004]

the PS2 was sort of plain but it had style on it with those indensions and etc.. but yes im expecting the PS3 to be plain but still have something that makes it stand out and not look plain

[KlawHammer]

Yes like gold writing on the top saying "PS3" in gold...

[gamingmonkey2004]

silver and gold!? that would be nice alot of things go good with silver and white...except white

[KlawHammer]

true

[gamingmonkey2004]

and Sony is reading this and they are like "Hey, that gamingmonkey2004 guy is very smart lets hire him! And make the PS3...pruple in color!"

[KlawHammer]

gay color bro

[NickSCFC]

SCEE President, David Reeves had this to say in a recent interview:

Reeves further suggested that in addition to a PlayStation 3 "intrinsically linked with PSX", "also there might be a normal PS3 for gamers, who just want to play the movies and have better games." The "home server" version of PlayStation 3, which has "all-singing, all-dancing features with maybe a hard disk drive", could retail for "whatever it might be, 600 or 700 Euros" according to Reeves, while the alternative might be for people who "just want to pay 200 Euros for a new generation games machine".

Quite possibe that there will be two versions of PlayStation 3 or PlayStation 3 technology being used in other Sony products.

[Emcee3]

I think the PS3 should be royal blue with lime green writing. How sweet is that combination.

[NickSCFC]

It'd look like Micrsoft.

[Emcee3]

I dont think so because it would still have the playstation design and i dont see any royal blue on the xbox.

[NickSCFC]

Well look at your PC screens then (providing you're using Windows XP) anyway, it's an awful idea and most people would agree.

[gamingmonkey2004]

I think the PS3 should be royal blue with lime green writing. How sweet is that combination.
not very! im gald you dont work for Sony cause you have a bad sense of color combinations not to mention they dont want anything bright! they want it to blend in with your DVD players and what ever else you have

[KlawHammer]

Wich means it will be silver

[shaudeus]

i think the crystal or translucent cases are pretty interesting

[ultimategamer2004]

I think the ps3 should be made in multiple colours and also a clear case..

[shaudeus]

i would opt for a clear case if i hadent already bought the xbox id go for thier crytal green case it looks alot better than the black one sony would look even better with one maybe even a led lit fan for added effect

[niblets]

I still think that a brushed aluminium case would be by far the best! :)

[Fats]

You're a fucking faggot dude. :lol:

Nah, that would be quite a tasty look. I am feeling the pink, fluffy look though...

10 posts Sanch, you're working your way to the top!!! You'll be a post whore in no time. :wink:

[GT4 RULZ]

i agree with niblets. an aluminium case would look sweet but it might get scratched easily

[Fats]

It would prob need polished quite often as well... Best keep your sticky hands off it...

[Emcee3]

The aluminum casing color would be sweet but its just like everything else. Why not go a little crazy, people will buy the console no matter what and i think that instead of black or silver or any of that stupid shit it should be some crazy ass color

[Fats]

"crazy ass colours" tend to put some people off... Colour sensitive people for a start...

[gamingmonkey2004]

The aluminum casing color would be sweet but its just like everything else. Why not go a little crazy, people will buy the console no matter what and i think that instead of black or silver or any of that stupid shit it should be some crazy ass color
ok your a moron some people might not want hot pink or something under their TV set so im thinking it will be a cool color

[shaudeus]

:lol: ill pass on the hot pink

[brownbeaner2]

i would like a cool color for the PS3 but just by chance that sony makes the PS3 some weird color ill just spray paint it to whatever color i want it to look like

[KlawHammer]

I would spray it the same color as my webserver - blue with little Linux (pronounced LIH-nucks) penguins all over.

[shaudeus]

i sprayed my pc with chameleon paint

[KlawHammer]

Oh coool! It changes color all the time aye? Where'd you get the paint? i need some as welll

[ultimategamer2004]

Yeah i have seen paint like that on cars it looks well nice.

[shaudeus]

i got mine off of ebay it came in a kit with three cans only paid 15 bucks for it ! they sell it for cars i think but you can use it for whatever

[gamingmonkey2004]

i really dont think you need to worry about the PS3 being an ugly color like pink or anything to far away from dark toned colors like navy blue, maroon, dark green, black, then the brightest i think would be white or silver

[Omega Blue]

i think it will look like the PSX, or something to that effect.

[gamingmonkey2004]

yea

with the dark colors i was talking about i was thinking of those being the lettering

[shaudeus]

well hopefully if the conrollers are wired then they will still put them in the front of the device

[gamingmonkey2004]

i would think so only PSX has it in the back and the reason is because its an entertainment system so the ugly controller ports would take away from it...well thats what im guessing

[NickSCFC]

I don't think Sony was intending on putting the controler ports at the back, it probably came down to costs in the end. Anyway, you can use the remote to play games, according to Edge anyway.

[gamingmonkey2004]

plus it wouldnt matter if the controller ports are on the back if there are wirless controllers

[NickSCFC]

The sensors (4 at least) would have to be at the front of the system.

[brownbeaner2]

unless they use bluetooth wireless system which is what sony puts in all of their cellphones it supports from 10-15 meters of distance and theirs no lag either works better then infared

[gamingmonkey2004]

The sensors (4 at least) would have to be at the front of the system.
doubt there will be four because they alwasy have done 4 and they want to gain money on the multi-tap a couple weeks down the road

[KlawHammer]

I got bluetooth on my Sharp GX10i cellphone. So cool. Much better then infrared.

[brownbeaner2]

i have bluetooth my sony erricson cellphone very useful.

[KlawHammer]

I use it mostly for phone-2-phone ringtones/Java games etc

[sub1zero]

Hey GUYS what about a Rainbow Coloured PS3 :lol:

[sub1zero]

So that it would be nice to play Rainbow Six GAMES :lol: :shock: :wink:

[KlawHammer]

ahem...Double post...ahem...

[Fats]

You also forgot to mention the lame joke as well Klawhammer... :oops:

[KlawHammer]

which lame joke? The one about the "tapes dvds"?

[stanDarsh]

which lame joke? The one about the "tapes dvds"?

No the one that by sub1zero that went over 2 posts saying:

Hey GUYS what about a Rainbow Coloured PS3....So that it would be nice to play Rainbow Six GAMES

[KlawHammer]

ahahaha...yes that one...

[Fats]

lol, slowing down in your old age Klaw? :wink:

[KlawHammer]

Yea i think i am....

[ultimategamer2004]

How about the ps3 being a different shape like round or like the ps2 but slimer and the corners a nd edges rounded off like they did with the PS1 when it was made smaller..

[KlawHammer]

That would be good. It would look "cute"

[Fats]

F**k cute, the PS3 will be state of the art gaming technology... It should look like a beast.

[KlawHammer]

It would look more like a block (X-Block). Thats a beast.

[Fats]

That is soooo true... :shock:

[rev>thanu]

i would like ps3 to look something like the PSX but the size of a ps2 or smaller and all in black and the ps3 logo all in RED.

[ultimategamer2004]

yes i hope it is the same size or smaller than the Ps2 but i still think it would look nice in a different shape.

[NickSCFC]

Sony Cocoon

http://www.jp.sonystyle.com/Product/Cocoon/Channel/Csv-ex11/Images/head_csvex11.jpg

http://www.sony.jp/products/Consumer/cocoon/images/topimage.jpg

[ibrooklyn]

i would like ps3 to look something like the PSX but the size of a ps2 or smaller and all in black and the ps3 logo all in RED.

dude have u ever seen a PSX b4? its smaller than a ps2 and its a bit more SQAREish

if u put a PSX on top of as PS2 ull see that ps2 is longer


why does everyone think that PSX is as huge as xbox???

[Fats]

Sony Cocoon

http://www.jp.sonystyle.com/Product/Cocoon/Channel/Csv-ex11/Images/head_csvex11.jpg

http://www.sony.jp/products/Consumer/cocoon/images/topimage.jpg

A very sleek looking piece of hardware I must say...

People just assume that the PSX is as big as the X-box because they have only seen pictures of it, so it's hard to grasp what scale it actually is.

[NickSCFC]

dude have u ever seen a PSX b4? its smaller than a ps2 and its a bit more SQAREish

if u put a PSX on top of as PS2 ull see that ps2 is longer

why does everyone think that PSX is as huge as xbox???
Actually PSX is as wide as PS2, its length is the same as its width.

[Matt]

Sony Cocoon

http://www.jp.sonystyle.com/Product/Cocoon/Channel/Csv-ex11/Images/head_csvex11.jpg

http://www.sony.jp/products/Consumer/cocoon/images/topimage.jpg

A very sleek looking piece of hardware I must say...

People just assume that the PSX is as big as the X-box because they have only seen pictures of it, so it's hard to grasp what scale it actually is.

That Cocoon looks nice, and the PSX is actually a lot larger than the Xbox, in both dimensions and weight.

PSX Dimensions: (Width, Depth, Height)

31.2cm x 32.3cm x 8.8cm

Xbox Dimensions: (Width, Depth, Height)

30cm x 18cm x 8 cm

PSX Weight:

8.8kg

Xbox Weight:

8kg

[rev>thanu]

actually psx is as big as xbox but it's sleak design makes it look smaller. here is a comparison between the ps2 and psx.
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/20031007/ceat1_06.jpg


http://image.lik-sang.com/content/psx-news/psx-news.jpg

http://image.lik-sang.com/content/psx-news/psx-news14.jpg

http://image.lik-sang.com/content/psx-news/psx-news3.jpg


http://image.lik-sang.com/content/psx-news/psx-news11.jpg

[KlawHammer]

OMG its as big as my VCR! Its pretty big though....

[gamingmonkey2004]

..well havnt made any posts in awhile...

anyway...the PSX is fairly big but since its like a entertainment console then its going to stay in the cabnet and not come out or something...and i like the different colors especially that red

[KlawHammer]

I wish they had a pink one with little yellow dandelions on it.

[stanDarsh]

I wish they had a pink one with little yellow dandelions on it.

Is that so it will match the colour of the walls in your room, as well as your Barbie collection? :wink:

[KlawHammer]

How did you know i had barbies in my room? have you been spying on me?

[ibrooklyn]

wow i guess im the ass here.....ive seen some pics b4, must have been photoshopped or something, cuz it made PSX look smaller

its as big as my HOME THEATER. Well thx for the pics =)

[Omega Blue]

techincally, for all the features and capabilities that the PSX has, its not that big, and it is no where near as tall as the X-Box either. so the PSX is actually small in its own right.

[NickSCFC]

It's slightly bigger than Xbox.

[Omega Blue]

It's slightly bigger than Xbox.

oh so they have been released in the UK and you got one?

[Fats]

It's slightly bigger than Xbox.

oh so they have been released in the UK and you got one?

No, he hasn't got one. But he assumed this considering that Matt posted the dimensions for the PSX and X-BOX on the previous page.

[martel]

PSX: 312 x 323 x 88mm

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/200310/03-1007E/



PS2: 301 x 78 x 182 mm

http://www.ps2.geek.nz/site.dyn/Specs/



X-Box: 324 × 265 × 90mm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XBox


Calculator tells me that equals:

PSX: 8,868,288 mm cubed
PS2: 4,272,996 mm cubed
X-Box: 7,727,400 mm cubed

So in conclusion, PSX is a bit bigger then X-Box which is quite a bit bigger then PS2.

[NickSCFC]

OmegaBlue made to look stupid as usual :lol:

[Fats]

Ahhhh, such bliss... :lol:

[Omega Blue]

OmegaBlue made to look stupid as usual :lol:

i still dont see how its substantially "bigger" not to mention looking at it height wise it still looks thinner. dont jump the gun dumbass :roll:

[Fats]

OmegaBlue made to look stupid as usual :lol:

i still dont see how its substantially "bigger" not to mention looking at it height wise it still looks thinner. dont jump the gun dumbass :roll:

Just bow down Omega and accept that you were wrong, if someone else was wrong you'd make sure that they knew about it. :x

[martel]

OmegaBlue made to look stupid as usual :lol:

i still dont see how its substantially "bigger" not to mention looking at it height wise it still looks thinner. dont jump the gun dumbass :roll:

Nick said, and I quote "It's slightly bigger than Xbox.". I said, and I quote, "PSX is a bit bigger then X-Box". What are you argueing about, do you enjoy digging yourself into a hole?

"not to mention looking at it height wise it still looks thinner", thin height wise? Short perhaps?

[Omega Blue]

i guess i'll just have to get an PSX and X-Box side by side and see for myself, i admit im wrong when im 100% sure i am. im arrogant and cocky, both a bad combination, both of which equal that i am 99.9999...ect% of the time not wrong,

[Matt]

Had everybody ignored that I posted the dimensions of the PSX and Xbox a few pages back?

But still, you're wrong Omega :D

[KlawHammer]

The Xbox weighs 8kg? Damn, a PS2 weighs like 2.0kg...
Damn that thing is heavy

[ultimategamer2004]

Where did you hear that i doubt it weighs that much does it :P

[Matt]

The specs I posted two pages ago dammit! :x

For anybody (more like everybody) who missed them the first time, here they are.

PSX:

31.2cm x 32.3cm x 8.8cm

Weight: 8.8kg

Xbox:

30cm x 18cm x 8cm

Weight: 8kg

Also, the PS2 weighs 4.5kg.

[ultimategamer2004]

The ps2 feels very very light. but i suppose the weight doesent matter because it is a home console and not a portable.

[Matt]

Yea. I don't see why the dimensions are of that much importance, as the thing will most probably be sitting underneath your TV. But I didn't actually think that the PSX would be that large.

[KlawHammer]

Yes well i move my PS2 and GC around the house very often between the TVs and PC monitors so i like that they're both light. How light is the GC by the way?

[rev>thanu]

PSX is actually small and XBOX is actually execively big for the parts and components it has inside.


PSX 250gig HDD
XBOX 10gigHDD

PSX Tivo
XBOX NO

PSX 2 USB port
XBOX NO

PSX 2 Controller ports
XBOX 4

PSX Memory Stick slot
xbox NO

etc etc etc

so in the end psx for all the things it has inside it's pretty small. it can basically do everything a computer does. while xbox is a huge box with the same components and a small @ss HDD for storage.

OMEGA admit your wrong psx is bigger than xbox. that was the same reason i was trying to find a pic of an xbox and psx comparison side by side and one on top of the other. psx covers the xbox completely if on top of it. but side by side psx looks a bit smaller because it's got a slick, plain and very cool desing to it. but in reality psx is bigger than xblock. but like i mentioned before is really not for all the functions it can perform.

[klaymen]

PSX $999.99
XBOX $149.99

you get what you pay for

[rev>thanu]

actually the price depends on the size of the HDD.

a 250 gig hdd with your PSX will make the console cost $720
a 160 gig hdd with your PSX will make the console cost $500 something.

i think i also heard that the 250gig hdd will cost less hear in the US.

but i'm sure a PSX will not cost 999.99 here or in the US. the price aint that far from what i paid for a regular complete ps2 in the long run. over the years came out the hdd and network adaptor. i paid $300 for a ps2 3 days after it came out then 50 for an HDD not including the final fantasy game and 50 for a network adaptor so i wasted 400 on a ps2 so far and not including memory cards because at the time there wasn't the HDD. i have 2 memory cards 30 dollars each so in total investment 460 not including tax for all those items. so really i ain't complaining because is true what you said " you get what you pay for". well i paid for the best console and i got it. :)

[klaymen]

actually the price depends on the size of the HDD.

a 250 gig hdd with your PSX will make the console cost $720
a 160 gig hdd with your PSX will make the console cost $500 something.

i think i also heard that the 250gig hdd will cost less hear in the US.

but i'm sure a PSX will not cost 999.99 here or in the US. the price aint that far from what i paid for a regular complete ps2 in the long run. over the years came out the hdd and network adaptor. i paid $300 for a ps2 3 days after it came out then 50 for an HDD not including the final fantasy game and 50 for a network adaptor so i wasted 400 on a ps2 so far and not including memory cards because at the time there wasn't the HDD. i have 2 memory cards 30 dollars each so in total investment 460 not including tax for all those items. so really i ain't complaining because is true what you said " you get what you pay for". well i paid for the best console and i got it. :)

oh, well i just looked it up on lik-sang. But i guess it was more because it would be imported.

[KlawHammer]

I spent about $500 on my PS2. Well $1400 actually since the PS2 itself was $499.

[Ibanez32]

Interesting point that to think how much you spend on it. Additional controllers, memory cards, dvd remote. Whoa the ps2 is the gift that keeps on taking :?

[KlawHammer]

Yes, the PS2 is the only thing other than my PC that i have spent over $1000 not including the console...

[gamingmonkey2004]

yea...you do spend alot on it...i mean especially when your recliner eats your controller wires

[KlawHammer]

LAZY monkey! even i dont have a recliner..........yet. But all the same that little box gobbles up money like a freighter on fire...(bad comparison)I'd hate to imagine how much i would spend on the PS3 when i get it - $5000 upwards???? who knows.

You know the old addage: Nobody said gaming comes cheap...

[gamingmonkey2004]

well i didnt buy the furniture! accually our couch has recliners built into them so yea i like it and i can tell when i dont like a game cause im like leaned back all hte way and half asleep

[KlawHammer]

Lol, thats the life. Gaming makes you lazy and unsociable. I mean look at me, i have no social life left - i think of games, PCs anything electronic (gals) and thats about all. My life is wasted. The PS2 truly has taken me time, money and care.

[gamingmonkey2004]

well i made somewhat of a deal with my parents so i do stuff outside during the day and when it gets somewhat night time HELLO GAMES but yea saturday and sunday i was doing stuff with my freind and some of his friends on his car. and we like stayed up like all night saturday and yea anyway...stupid chair!

[rev>thanu]

only in games i have spent WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFFFFFFFFFFFF like 3 -4000 dollars in all.

i have like 50 games i think for ps2 and i have trade lots of them so

HERE IS MY LIST OF GAMES AND OTHER INVESTMENTS (I PAID FULL PRICE FOR ALL THESE)

ratchet and clanck going commando
jak and daxter
jak 2
DVD remote
2 ps2 controllers
4 memory cards ( so far i have only used 3 of them)
network adaptor
hard drive
final fantasy 11
final fantasy 10
final fantasy 10-2
ico
the mark of kri
kingdom hearts
rygar
devil may cry
devil may cry 2
resident evil code veronica
resident evil outbreak
silent hill 2
silent hill 3
zone of the enders
zone of the enders 2
dark cloud
dark cloud 2
granturismo 3
onimusha
onimusha 2
onimusha 3 (reservation and paid in full price) it comes this month right?
.hack infection
.hack mutation
.hack outbreak
.hack quarantine
breath of fire 5 ( funny i bought it and i still haven't even touched the game)
champions of Norrah Everquest
baldurs gate dark aliance 2
sonic heroes
metal gear solid 2 substance
metal gear solid 2 sons of liberty
suikoden 3
arc the lad
way of the samurai
dynasty warriors 3
drakengard
fatal frame
fatal frame 2
contra shattered soldier
Dead or Alive 2 hardcore
soul caliber 2
virtua fighter 4 evolution
tenchu 3 wrath of heaven
tomb raider angel of darkness
DDRMAX
DDRMAX 2
2 dancing mats
vampire night
1 guncon 2
1 USB head set
socom 2
xenosaga episode 1 (great game) excellent ending too.

GAMES I TRADED
shinobi
grand theft auto 3
GTA vice city
splinter cell (PS2)
oni
The bouncer
winback
maximo from ghost to glory
dynasty warriors 2
tekken 4
virtua fighter 4 (regular version)
bloody roar 3
socom 1
mortal kombat deadly alliance( i actually gave it to my cousin)
( i think i traded even more but i don't remember)

plus this is not counting my xbox and gamecube games :lol: :shock:


xbox
Dead or Alive 3
splinter cell
Ninja gaiden

gamecube
Resident evil 0
Resident evil 1
zelda wind waker


GAMECUBE TRADED GAMES
PN03 sucked sucked she is stiffer than lara croft (so don't feel bad for TOMB RAIDER)
ikaruga

suprisingly i have no interest in PC games and not mentioning my 22 ps1 games

if you think i'm a liar just go get a job and see how the games come flying to you.

:lol:

[niblets]

When do you think that there will be offical designs of the ps3 released :?:

[GT4 RULZ]

i was thinking next years e3

2005 e3 :?:

[Fats]

When do you think that there will be offical designs of the ps3 released :?:

Perhaps E3 they might unveil the actual design, but this might be too early... I'm guessing if not E3 then the first quarter of 2005. :?:

[niblets]

so there still a good we while to wait then :(

[Fats]

so there still a good we while to wait then :(

This is just pure speculation mind you, and this speculation is based on... No facts. So indeed I could just be talking shite. Someone else would be better taking an educated guess as I'm not too sure. Oh by the way Nibblets, hows the house with no stairs coming along? (French voice) "If the house does not have stairs it therefore must be a bungalow..."

[stanDarsh]

When do you think that there will be offical designs of the ps3 released :?:

Im reckon they will unveil the official design of the PS3 at the Autumn Tokyo Game Show 2005.

[NickSCFC]

Well Sony actually unveiled PlayStation 2 only 5 months before it was released in Japan, so I would say late 2005.

[imported_Anonymous]

htt://clickbank.net/?parkcor/mp3center

[klaymen]

htt://clickbank.net/?parkcor/mp3center

whatever that is, stop posting it. it doesnt work anyways

[KlawHammer]

I have truly had enought of that fellow, hes getting on my nerves. Wheres Omega to teach him a lesson.

[Fats]

Can the admin's not just ban the wee f**cker?! :x

[KlawHammer]

Its not that easy. If he has a dynamic IP then its pretty much useless as it changes everytime he connects to the internet. If its a static IP then i pray that f*****r gets kicked out....

[Fats]

Ah right, does everyone not have a dynamic IP? I thought this was the standard for Internet security. Everytime I log on to AOL is my IP address static or does it change?

[KlawHammer]

AOL is the worst of them all. It changes your IP as you browse the net unlike others that only change when you connect.So in other words in one session AOL can change your IP a dozen times.

[Fats]

You say AOL is the worst of them all, but this is a good thing right? This means that some wee bastard has less of a chance of getting into my system doesn't it? What's AOL's firewall like? I have the option to download it, I guess I should really.

[KlawHammer]

Well from a an ordinary surfer this is good news, but for me i run a webserver from home so i need a static IP or people wouldnt be able to find my site. As for the AOL firewall, its not necessary if yu have a constant changing IP.

[Fats]

Ah right, thanks for tha tip Klaw.

[KlawHammer]

Ah no problem anything to help a fellow insider... :P

[gamingmonkey2004]

stop posting klaw! i had more posts than you for awhile then you past me up anyway

htt://clickbank.net/?parkcor/mp3center

what is this suppose to be? and how are you a guest? shouldnt it be new member?

[klaymen]

Ah right, does everyone not have a dynamic IP? I thought this was the standard for Internet security. Everytime I log on to AOL is my IP address static or does it change?

generally, if you use dialup, you have a dynamic IP, if you have cable or dsl (you don't have to log on every time) then you have static IP

Well from a an ordinary surfer this is good news, but for me i run a webserver from home so i need a static IP or people wouldnt be able to find my site. As for the AOL firewall, its not necessary if yu have a constant changing IP.

i should hope you're not running a webserver on a dialup connection :shock:

[Fats]

I'm using DSL and I have the choice to log on/off when I want.

[klaymen]

I'm using DSL and I have the choice to log on/off when I want.

so, it probably changes whenever you log off then back on

[Ibanez32]

I didn't know it could change while your still conected???
Hows that implimentable cause i would have though inorder to have a connection with any other server your ip would have to be constant for that time.

[KlawHammer]

That i'm afraid is not how AOL works. They constanty change IPs for "security" reasons. They know waht all their customers IPs are and change them while not losing a connection to your PC.

[Matt]

That applies with most services. Dynamic IP's change all the time, it's not just AOL.

[KlawHammer]

Dynamic IPs are a webservers worst nightmare but their are ways to deal with it...

[Ibanez32]

Let me just get this straight it changes all the time not just when you reconnect?

[Matt]

It can change even when you're connected.

[gamingmonkey2004]

how did the descussion of design change to ....w/e

[KlawHammer]

Im not quite sure - it kinda drifted along i guess...

[slayerx]

Well i voted Gray just to be diffrent it would be nice to see them release it in more than one colour though instead of making you get it in one like the PS2 then bringing out that loverly Aqua one and Silver one at a much later date.

[Ibanez32]

Even more than tht it would be cool to see them do something that no ones done before and beyond different colours. If there were actually 3 different designs as in different shaps and colour each different one having its own characteristic. Now, although that may put production cost up they would shift more consoles as real rich people would want to buy all 3 as would people wanting them for demostration/ display purposes. This means that cirtain people who would have only bought one will now have bought 3.

[gamingmonkey2004]

dont like gray...even though PS1 was gray

[Matt]

Continue the discussion here:

http://playstation3insider.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2143

Closing.