PS3 Design Discussion Thread Part 1

[NickSCFC]

Shape

Both of Sony's consoles (PlayStation and PlayStation 2) have been rectangular. In my opinion at seeing both of them for the first time I thought they looked pretty ugly. After a while I thought they started to grow on me and they seemed to have a bit of character about them.

Here's an image of a concept design which has appeared in many web sites and magazines...

http://home.btconnect.com/hgi/ps3/ps3con2.jpg

god knows where it originated from, but it looks very interesting. The shape is definately surprising. Maybe something less shinier would definately be welcome. I like the way how the disc, memory card and controller ports are split into three sections too.

Colour

In my opinion it's going to be white. Or will it, seems reasonable to me even though nothing has been confirmed yet. They've done grey (PlayStation) and they've done black (PlayStation 2). Anything other than white or pale silver would look awfully out of place in todays fashion. Plus, Sony would want to distance it from Micrososts consoles.

Logo

http://home.btconnect.com/hgi/ps3/ps3newlogo.gif

Real or fake? It's appeared on every web site and every magaizine, in the UK at least. Apparently it was used in a press conferance by Sony and its Cell allies earlier in the year. But who else could've created something so ugly other than Sony Japan. Look at the background though, it's white. t doesn't look right as it is, but would it look right on anything other than a white console?

Other Sony products

Here's Sony's new range of Walkman's...

http://www.sonystyle.com/intershoproot/eCS/Store/en/imagesProducts/120x120/DFS601.jpghttp://www.sonystyle.com/intershoproot/eCS/Store/en/imagesProducts/120x120/MZS1.jpghttp://www.sonystyle.com/intershoproot/eCS/Store/en/imagesProducts/120x120/SRFM80V.jpghttp://www.sonystyle.com/intershoproot/eCS/Store/en/imagesProducts/120x120/WMFS555J.jpg

I think they look smart as f***. The orange is brilliant, they just look great, lets hope this is the thinking behing the design for PlayStation 3 :roll:

Here's one of Sony's latest DVD players...

http://www.sonystyle.com/intershoproot/eCS/Store/en/imagesProducts/120x120/DVPPQ2.jpg

a bit different, maybe this is the shape of things to come for PlayStation 3 :D

[julps31]

I don't know if thats the real logo but in my opinion I would like PS3 to be silver. This would be perfect for that futuristic hi-tech feel that PS3 should have. Kinda like the fake PS3 shot.

[RichardCypher101]

The concept picture is a FAKE, fanmade picture. Thats explained on the frontpage of this site.

And the logo is a FAKE, mocked up by a gaming magazine, which is said here: http://home.btconnect.com/hgi/ps3/

-Rich

[Matt]

Both images are fake, and many topics posting these pictures are around the forum.

[NickSCFC]

Why does it say...

At a recent RAMBUS/ELPIDA conference, Sony Computer Entertainment and memory company Elpida apparently revealed a first look at what appears to be the new PlayStation 3 logo.

Emphasizing networking with circular designs and connectivity with abstract unclosed curvilinear lines, the PS3 logo looks more like an innovative typeface from the late 1970s than anything else.

[Matt]

Have you got a link for that quote?

[RichardCypher101]

Because that was a rumor from the MAGAZINE. The logo was also a MOCK-UP from the magazine. It wasnt real.

-Rich

[RichardCypher101]

Also notice how no site or other magazine on the web is using that logo as the official or even concept logo.

-Rich

[NickSCFC]

This site is...

http://www.geocities.com/playstationnet2000/ps3.html

[Matt]

.....That's your own site.

[NickSCFC]

Free advertising :D

[Ultima X]

Thats one cool dvd player, how much does it cost?

[Omega Blue]

This site is...

http://www.geocities.com/playstationnet2000/ps3.html

thats a gay site thats promoting false information by using that logo and is also stealing information from this site.

[NickSCFC]

Hey that's my site :(

[Omega Blue]

Hey that's my site :(

woops sorry yeah umm.....












cool site? i guess? :shock:

[NickSCFC]

What? It's a f*cking awful site :D

[Sockatume]

The PS3 logo was a fake created by PSM2 Magazine, for their April 2003 issue. It was part of a traditional April Fools article on PS3. Funnily enough, someone waited a couple of months before claiming it was real.

PSM2's mock-up PS3 design and PSP design have also made it online.

[Fahad145]

I think the Ps3 will have 4 controller ports with 2 usb 2.0. I think they'll get rid of the firewire, cuz i didn't find it any useful. A usb 2.0 transfer is much faster than a firewire. Then in the back of the console will have another power off switch, same as ps2. It will also include a ethernet port(s) in the back. a fiber connection for HD audio. The sound card will be like sound blaster Audigy 2, maybe even better. it will include one dvd disk drive. it will have no expansion slots, since it will include HDD and broadband.

The ps3 will be a silver console.

I was also thinking about something crazy. Like the ps3 will also support two seperate televison at the same time.

[GodZeRo]

ya, a dual headed design would be cool! think of the possabilities, even if one is slow (second display), it could display a map, or stats or something..

[Fats]

The first Playstation's styling was... Well... Bland to say the least, but it was Sony's first attempt at making an actual console so I'll give them that. When I first seen the styling of the PS2 I didn't think it was ugly, but different. The whole purpose of the PS2's styling is that it is a representation of the earth and space. The Black being space and the dark blue ps2 logo being the colour of the sky or sea on our earth, the green and blue lights also representing earth. :?

Anyway...

I really don't know what to expect from Sony this time around... Are they going to create something stylish and sleek or opt for an all round practical concept which will not offend people?

I'm guessing that it will be silver. Simply because silver is the new black. You go out and buy any Sony product today and it is more than likely going to be silver, 10 years ago all their products were black. It's the new thing, I'm tellin' ya the kids will go crazy for it!! :roll:. In order to keep the "silver harmony" I think it will be this colour.

As for features I think it will NOT have four controller ports, as mentioned before, Sony will again be making another multitap for four player action. I do think that it will have USB ports for connectivity, to EYE-TOY 2 perhaps? :D

[AG89]

It'll be nice if it was something small and easy to carrry. Also sleek.

Wonder if Sony will give us the option of using a portable screen?

[Fats]

Talking about the actual size of the console, you kinda wonder what size the X-box 2 will be... It's gona be huge!!!

[Omega Blue]

im guessing the Ps3 to be just slightly bigger then the Ps2 and will be kinda heavy.

[NickSCFC]

It's worrying how big consoles are these day compared to SNES, Dreamcast and Gamecu...

oh wait that's rather new. The main reason PS2 was so big was about a quarter of it was space for the HDD. If they dropped this and had a top loader DVD drive it would've been smaller.

[Omega Blue]

u mean the X-Box right?

[NickSCFC]

Sony actually, I was on about PS2.

[Omega Blue]

the X_Box has an HDD and is pretty big if they has not put an HDD in their aswell im sure it would have been smaller but still the Ps2 is considerably smaller then the X-Box.

[KlawHammer]

the X_Box has an HDD and is pretty big if they has not put an HDD in their aswell im sure it would have been smaller but still the Ps2 is considerably smaller then the X-Box.

That is in a sense true, but the xbox and ps2 size difference isnt that much.The ps2 is longer than the xbox.

[NickSCFC]

Actually I don't think PS2 is wider than the Xbox. My mate has his PS2 above his Xbox and they're about the same size in terms of width.

[Matt]

The Xbox is just slighty wider, and longer, heavier etc. :)

[Dreamcastmagic]

Add a 20 lb weight to the top of your PS2, that makes it almost the same weight as the Xbox lol

[Omega Blue]

or a sledge hammer :lol:

[Cairey]

As far as the PS3 logo goes... here is a registered trademark on the official us patent site. Note that it is owned by sony.

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=doc&state=i4ccd2.16.2

[SunDevil]

But hey, can you pound in nails with your trusty PS2? I think not, but when I'm in a situation where there's just some nails sticking up in the middle of nowhere and I just so happen to have an Xblock on hand, guess who'll be laughing their way all t he way to the bank. Could it be...... ME!!! Hahahahahahahaha.

That logo was pretty old... Both the one that got this thread started, and the one that was copyrighted by sony. (copyrighted? Is that even a word?) Anyway, I think the one made by sony, and not the magazine people... can't remember their name, never read anymore, was probably copyrighted simply to keep their options open. Eh, anyway, honest mistake I suppose.

On the subject of actual hardware design, I'd hope the thing'd be really slick looking. Think one of the Covenant dropships from Halo2. Silver sounds good too. But whatever, could look like a brick, and be made of bricks for all I care, as long as it kicks so much ass in the end that it actually hurts.

[AG89]

Whatever it'll look like, I hope it's light and small.

[Swordmaster Jehuty]

Gun metal with red accents would be nice. Or maybe orange with whit and black.

[Omega Blue]

i'd like a jet black with red accents that would be extremely diffrent but for some reason i see MS going that route but i would like to see some Silver/chrome on the Ps3 with either blue or black accents that would pwn :D

[Scott R. Mraz]

As far as the PS3 logo goes... here is a registered trademark on the official us patent site. Note that it is owned by sony.

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=doc&state=i4ccd2.16.2

Sine the trademark search expires after a period of time, I decide to obtain the serial number so that if anyone wanted to see the image and trademark application you referenced they can simply do a search for this serial number: 75873517

[Omega Blue]

:cry: i couldn't find it? what was it to be exact? to tell you the truth i had no idea even where to start?

[Matt]

Hardly anything amazing:

http://www.mruge.com/images/PS3.GIF

[Omega Blue]

well its black and thats cool. i was hoping it might have been diffrent besides the color but...i guess its still cool... :?

[Matt]

I'm sure that it will develop beyond that, but I think it's good that they've kept it the same style

[NickSCFC]

Who have? Who designed that logo?

[Matt]

Read from Scott's post downwards.

[Ibanez32]

If it was white or silver with some clever use of perspecs and progresivly changing colour LED's (nothing tacky) it would look pretty cool. Not only would it give people a choice of colour but good use of lighting it never a bad thing.

[Matt]

They could use fibre-optic stuff for the changing colour. Interesting idea though.

[Althalus]

I would love it if they made the PS3 customisable. It would have a kind of removable plate that you can change for a different colour or design.

[m!dn!ghtblu3]

Well that idea worked for Nokia and it's mobile phones.

[Althalus]

So why can't it work for games consoles? I think it's a perfect idea, and it will take off if they play their cards right.

[m!dn!ghtblu3]

I didn't say that it wouldn't work for a games consoles. I think making the PS3's colour customisable would be an awesome idea.

[GQ_PIMP]

well i want it to be platnium.........consitering almost all my other sony products are silver. it would be a nice theam. i jus hope it aint somethin like orange or yellow yuck!! :?

[psychogenicscc]

I would like for Sony to Not have one specific Color.....since they end up coming out with different colored ones after a year called Special editions...I would like for Sony to give the Consumer the Choice of Colors to pick from.

[Gexv8]

The ps3 I saw looked like a multicolored ps1. I think it was fan made also. It had to be.

[Ibanez32]

Removable plastic plates sounds kinda tacky and something the would make the consoles alot bigger. Not to mention it would probably break.
My biggest problem with that idea is sony seem to have problems pricing redundant pieces of plastic take the verticle stands for an example.

[Rustophilus]

I don't know if anyone here has found this or if it's even worth showing, but here it is.

http://www.netreach.net/~lestat/experiments/electrical/ps3_tiny.jpg

[CR34T1ON]

Well personaly i think, its going to be see through!
and maybe some neon lights inside, to make it glow a blue or red or something

becuase seeing the inseides of a machine is pretty cool, and ive seen alot of cd players made by sony etc
gone see through!

so it could be an option
it would be realy cool if they had iot see throught with neon light inside glowing the colour of the logo , if its red,blue,green what ever!
:D

[NickSCFC]

www.sonystyle.com

OK, find me some see through stuff.

[CR34T1ON]

ok maybe not full see through bt this is see through

http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=GE9uxxjQJ91u61jEOOZkzFfeTBMvo9hGp44=?Cat egoryName=pa_Walkman%2e_CDWalkman%2e&ProductSKU=DN E1&Dept=pa

And i have it so, i know its see throught its has see through sides, and a titanium top!

[Omega Blue]

the Ps3 wont be see thru i can almost garantee that, that type of style doesn't even moderatly appeal to me. i rather it be Black again then see thru.

[NickSCFC]

The look of PS2 has grown on me, since I put it in the living room I've seen alot more of the top of it. Shame about the front, those lines are terrible.

I'd still like to see PS3 looking like the Dreamcast, though the PSX looks prety smart too.

Oh, and try again CR34T1ON, it only has that tranparent part so that you can see the disc.

[Ibanez32]

If it was fully see thru it would quite tacky. As for its shape it has to look innotive but practicle. It should stand out but not to much as to be stupid.

[Reign22]

Yo, not really sure wut dis really is its a pocket station
i dont know if it is da new psp or wut cause if it is
im dissapointed. cuz dis is lookin like garbage.

http://image.lik-sang.com/images/large/pocketstation2.jpg

here da site where i found it
http://www.lik-sang.com/news.php?artc=3044[/url] :?:

[Omega Blue]

Yo, not really sure wut dis really is its a pocket station
i dont know if it is da new psp or wut cause if it is
im dissapointed. cuz dis is lookin like garbage.

http://image.lik-sang.com/images/large/pocketstation2.jpg

here da site where i found it
http://www.lik-sang.com/news.php?artc=3044[/url] :?:

the buttons are backwards, and i believe that looks fake.

[stanDarsh]

Yo, not really sure wut dis really is its a pocket station
i dont know if it is da new psp or wut cause if it is
im dissapointed. cuz dis is lookin like garbage.

http://image.lik-sang.com/images/large/pocketstation2.jpg

here da site where i found it
http://www.lik-sang.com/news.php?artc=3044[/url] :?:

the buttons are backwards, and i believe that looks fake.

Nah, unfortunately the PocketStation is real! I know because I own one! It came out for PSOne several years ago, and in my opinion was no better than a Tamagochi (anyone remember those? Quite popular in Japan anyway!). It was also similar to the Dreamcast VMU (Visual Memory Unit) in many respects!

While the PocketStation had some potential, it wasn't put to good use, and the biggest flaw it had in my opinion was the fact it had the same capacity as a standard memory card ( 128 KB ) and hence the games on it were tiny.

If it had games like Snake on the Nokia phones, I would've been happier, but alas no such luck! :cry:

[Ibanez32]

Didn't it do clever little things with compatable game saves. like train characters and stuff ?

[Omega Blue]

Yo, not really sure wut dis really is its a pocket station
i dont know if it is da new psp or wut cause if it is
im dissapointed. cuz dis is lookin like garbage.

http://image.lik-sang.com/images/large/pocketstation2.jpg

here da site where i found it
http://www.lik-sang.com/news.php?artc=3044[/url] :?:

the buttons are backwards, and i believe that looks fake.

Nah, unfortunately the PocketStation is real! I know because I own one! It came out for PSOne several years ago, and in my opinion was no better than a Tamagochi (anyone remember those? Quite popular in Japan anyway!). It was also similar to the Dreamcast VMU (Visual Memory Unit) in many respects!

While the PocketStation had some potential, it wasn't put to good use, and the biggest flaw it had in my opinion was the fact it had the same capacity as a standard memory card ( 128 KB ) and hence the games on it were tiny.

If it had games like Snake on the Nokia phones, I would've been happier, but alas no such luck! :cry:

my bad, looks funny tho

[Matt]

The only think I know about it is that you could have a chocobo or something on it with Final Fantasy XIII.

[undergrad93]

:idea:
I think PS3 should be a chip you insert into your PS2 module and thats that! MWHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! :o

[Matt]

That would probably make everything a hell of a lot easier, but no.....

[SuNnYBoY]

I think it should be in more than one color like the gamecube..but i kno its not gonna be

Maybe they will do like a limited edition type of PS3 but if it should be one color it should be PLATINUM with some black and blue not the game cube platinum like a shiny silver or something

[Matt]

They did that with the PS2, so you wouldn't put it past them.

Also, the Panasonic GameCube was silver.

[NickSCFC]

Looking at Edge magazine that white PSX does look very smart. Maybe a cross betwen that and Dreamcast would be great.

[Matt]

What do you mean when you say a cross between the PSX and Dreamcast? Yea, they're both white, but the way you put in the disk is different for both.

[NickSCFC]

God knows, the way you put discs into the PSX does seem a bit clumsy, bound to get alot of scratches. Of course front loading disc drives are more friendly as most people stick their consoles under the TV with their video recorders and don't have space to open the disc flap without moving the console.

On another note, I really do hate the PlayStation style controller ports, they're far too big. Hopefully Dual Shock 3 will be wireless only removing the need for these ports. I suppose Dual Shock 3 would have a switch which can select "1/2/3/4". Ther'll probably be some other complicated s**t in the design to prevent people cheating in multiplayer games too.

[Matt]

Sony never seem to want to put more than 2 ports on a PlayStation, which then means if you want to play multiplayer games you need the Multi-Tap.

If they wanted to release another Multi-Tap, then that would mean that they controllers will have wires.

Unless they release/build in a device that detects the amount of PS3 wireless controllers that are active.

[NickSCFC]

I'm guessing there would be 4 seperate sensors. It's really primative having wires, I think the first video recorders actually had remotes that used wires, according to Peter Kay anyway.

[gamingmonkey2004]

should i re-state my stupidity about the contoller and the couch? thats what i thought! yes wireless should be already part of the PS3 whats the point of having the wires? but if there are corded controllers i would be fine with that...as long as my stupid head set stops getting tangled in it! but i see the new PS3 being a white...or something like that cause bright colors are bad and the draws to much attention cause if it was like orange or red my parents would be like "you cannot pulg that into our tv!" or something so im thinking pale cool colors like black/gray/ or navy blue something that really doesnt draw much attention and i think that was the thinking behind the colors for PS1 and 2.

[ultimategamer2004]

THE PICTURE IS FAKE it was made by a graphic designer.

[the legendary ice man]

As far as Sony have announced only the highest senior employees and the set of designers know what it will look like!

[NickSCFC]

I doubt a final design has been implemented yet.

[the legendary ice man]

how else are they going to test stuff out?

does anyone remember Sony's original PS2 design and the prototype?

[NickSCFC]

There wenen't any. Sony have to design the casing to fit around the interior components (which are currently incomplete)> They should also look at the current state of technological style which they failed to do with the PlayStation 2.

[the legendary ice man]

IBM have been doing cell technology for ages! - though not ion such a small scale - take a look at deep fritz for instance that runs on the original CELL chips

[NickSCFC]

I was on about the exterior casing for the PS3, it can't be designed untill the interior is complete.

[the legendary ice man]

okay then fair enough - they probably have ideas on what it will look like.

If Chip developers had any inteeligence, even though it is very hard...they would develop the Processor in a spherical shape so that it is very easy to cool!

[niblets]

I think that a brushed aluminium style PS3 case would look realy good!

[Ibanez32]

How on earth would you plug a sphere in.

[PogoReturned]

A spherical console?

Your ideas are just as poor as Sony's (and believe me, that's pretty damn poor)

[netee]

I dont know if anubody else has posted something along the lines of this but here is my idea, how about a silvery surfaced round shaped box similare 2 the shape on the first thread of this forum, ok nothing speciell yet, but here comes the twist its got vaines all over it like those found on jehuty in konamis ace game zone of the enders1-2, which just like on jehuty pulsate in different colours depending on its power/output level :roll:

[NickSCFC]

Sony want the PlayStation 3 to have mass market appeal, I doubt any of these mad ideas will become reality. Look at the PSX for an idea of what PlayStation 3 will look like.
http://ongen.econ-net.or.jp/news/photo/200305/SONY-PSX-YOKO.jpg

PSX was designed to look fashionabe in any modern room in the house. It complies with the fact that women choose how the house is decorated.

Have a look at the images in this link...

www.psx.sony.co.jp/style/index.html

[Cinder]

They did that with the PS2, so you wouldn't put it past them.

Also, the Panasonic GameCube was silver.


I really loved the look of the Panasonic Gamecube!

Too bad its price was about a double the price of the normal Cube.


http://image.lik-sang.com/images//large/panasonic-gamecube1.jpg

http://image.lik-sang.com/images//large/panasonic-gamecube2.jpg

http://image.lik-sang.com/images//large/panasonic-gamecube.jpg

[Fats]

That was a very cool looking console... :D

[Gaminglegend]

The Panasonic Gamecube did look excelent. It's sad that they have stopped the production of it, though.



As for the Playstation 3, I would like to see it platinum (silver) in colour, and be reasonably compact. And of course, it needs to be powerful!

[GT4 RULZ]

y did they stop the producttion was it doing badly in sales

[KlawHammer]

I think the PS3 should be green, coz im making a PS3 site wif a green-theme

[Fats]

Dear Sony, please make the PS3 Green so that KlawHammer can develop a website on it with the same colour. Thank you. :lol:

[Ibanez32]

If they made it it green i'll have to save to get it resprayed as if its not gonna cost enuogh already.

[Omega Blue]

I think the PS3 should be green, coz im making a PS3 site wif a green-theme

its been a while since i have flamed, and well i was going to but its just to easy here, so i'll just say this has got to be the stupidest color ever mentioned.

[m!dn!ghtblu3]

It's definitely a stupid idea to release the PS3 in a non-generic colour ie. green :wink: but it would be great as a limited edition version of the PS3 if you were into green.

[stanDarsh]

I think the PS3 should be green, coz im making a PS3 site wif a green-theme

its been a while since i have flamed, and well i was going to but its just to easy here, so i'll just say this has got to be the stupidest color ever mentioned.

Oh I dunno, I think the guy who wanted the PS3 to be orange was worse!:wink: I DON'T want the PS3 to be green or orange! But if I had to pick one of the 2, i'd pick green over orange!

[Omega Blue]

if u want green then why not just put a big a** X on the top of the Ps3

[stanDarsh]

if u want green then why not just put a big a** X on the top of the Ps3

Agreed! And while your at it, make the console a lot bigger in size, so its hard to fit through the front door, and make it weigh as much as a TV :P

[KlawHammer]

At least i dont want a pink PS3. And i was saying green as in dark-green, like Army green (regards to the Royal New Zealand Army for outstanding work in protecting the shores of our bueatiful country).

[Ibanez32]

Thats very good of you to say that but why would sony care?

[Fats]

It shall be White... Or Silver... :?

[KlawHammer]

Or why dont sony just make it black and blue like the ps2?

[NickSCFC]

Because PS2 looked dated before it was even launched. If you want to see a smart design for a system then look no further than PSX.

[Maya 5.0]

Yes the PSX does look HOT. Something like that or like i said before some kind of color scheme like the Apple laptops.

[gamingmonkey2004]

as long as none of you people are saying rainbow colored ill be fine but as soon as someone does ill freak out cause didnt apple used to want/did make their coputers rainbow colored...then they settled to just make the symbol rainbow...i cant remeber if they did or wanted to anyway im expecting PS3 to be a color thats in style so look at your parents appliences and the color of them and expect that...so im thinking white cause their CD player is white...with a little orange
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000066HO4.16._SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpghttp://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000667AP.16._SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpghttp://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000665P7.16._SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

[NickSCFC]

Still haven't managed to find one of those :x

[KlawHammer]

Is that one in the middle a NetMD? Ive been wanting a Sony MP3 player for ages though i just settled for Samsung instead. Anyway back to the topic; if Sony made it to brightly colored like orange or pink(lol,pink) or green for eg. then people will think its a "kiddie console". Look at the Gamecube for crying out loud.

[NickSCFC]

Like I've already said, Sony are aiming PS3 at a wide range of consumers, not just gamers. So expect something like PSX.

[Fats]

I've just been thinking about the design of the PS3... Could you image how it would look if Jonathan Ive designed it? This would be an amazing accomplishment by Sony and would surely be the sexist console ever.

Take a look at what he did for apple:

http://www.powermedia.com.au/hardware/images/imac.jpg


http://www.zdnet.co.uk/i/z/rv/2003/06/g5-250x200.jpg


http://www.nd.edu/~ndoit/solutions/Images/ibook.jpg

I personally think that this would give Sony a huge advantage. I'm sure Sony's design team will be more than capable of designing a very sexy looking console, but I think that they should look at Jonathan's work for some inspiration!!! :P

[gaming ultima]

electronics case desing goes round in fashion so theres a good chance that bu the time it gets 2 2006 the psx design looks outdated

[Fats]

Yes, but the design should be sleek looking in order to give it that inital "wow" factor... Especially to people who crave good looking hardware.

[Maya 5.0]

I've just been thinking about the design of the PS3... Could you image how it would look if Jonathan Ive designed it? This would be an amazing accomplishment by Sony and would surely be the sexist console ever.

Take a look at what he did for apple:

http://www.powermedia.com.au/hardware/images/imac.jpg


http://www.zdnet.co.uk/i/z/rv/2003/06/g5-250x200.jpg


http://www.nd.edu/~ndoit/solutions/Images/ibook.jpg

I personally think that this would give Sony a huge advantage. I'm sure Sony's design team will be more than capable of designing a very sexy looking console, but I think that they should look at Jonathan's work for some inspiration!!! :P


That's what im talking about. I dont own a ibook but if i had the money i sure would get one.

[Fats]

Sorry Maya 5.0, didn't notice your post there, but I understand what you're saying. :D

[KlawHammer]

mmmm... is that a MAC i see? I dont really like MACS so much becuse they cost so much but hey its a good design. Maybe Sony could hire the same person who designed the Gamecube.

[Fats]

Or not... I don't want my console to look like a toy...

[gaming ultima]

well it depends id the person desinged the gamecube that way because of he/she beeing really good at what they do or they were hired because they can only do kiddy desings that lean towards the pervert side of things

[ZipZapPro]

I say it should be a shiney color (Like chrome or gold!) not a regular flat color! Or they should take this idea...it should have 2 plastic covers. One outer shell that you can unscrew and then there is an inner shell. The outer shell however, is made especially for customizing and painting and things. The inner shell is so when you open to paint it, you don't break it and the warrenty is still there! You could buy all different styles of shells and thing! THAT, would be awsome! :D

[rev>thanu]

i think it should be white like the psx and have sleek and smooth desing to it. that the PS3 sing lights up

[KlawHammer]

Maybe if it had customizable faceplates like mobile phones, like NOKIA XPRESS-ON covers.

[NickSCFC]

Sony PSX

http://images-jp.amazon.com/images/P/B00011D1UY.09.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

[brownbeaner2]

personally i think the PSX looks amazing!!!
does anybody have the link to a site with the PSX's Specs and features

[NickSCFC]

Link to PSX discussion topic (http://www.playstation3insider.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=360&start=30)

www.psx.sony.co.jp

Like I keep saying, the deisign of PSX is very cose to how I imagine PlayStation 3 will look, makes a this talk of spheres and changable covers seem quite stupid.

[KlawHammer]

Looks as big or even bigger than the XBlock. But then it does have alot in it (PSX) . If the PS3 looked almost like that jus ta smaller size that would be cool.

[Fats]

But it's not black, and it doesn't look like a VCR on steroids...

[Omega Blue]

Looks as big or even bigger than the XBlock. But then it does have alot in it (PSX) . If the PS3 looked almost like that jus ta smaller size that would be cool.

its actually slightly thinner then the Ps2 and fairly smaller then the X-Box. but then again i guess what would you expect someone who has not seen a PSX compared to other things try and comment on its size and take blank and blinds shots at judging it.

[macpakitywak]

i really like the design of PSX as well, but i hope they borrow some ideas from apple as well in their design...not big things, but small details like when the system is asleep on apples a small soft light gets brighter then dimmer the brighter again until the system is on again...makes it almost like the system is alive, kinda ties nicely with the "Cell" name dont you think?

[Omega Blue]

well if you look at the PSX, you can tell is does have that white, sleek, simple futuristic look to it much like Apple's Monitors.

[KlawHammer]

Looks as big or even bigger than the XBlock. But then it does have alot in it (PSX) . If the PS3 looked almost like that jus ta smaller size that would be cool.

its actually slightly thinner then the Ps2 and fairly smaller then the X-Box. but then again i guess what would you expect someone who has not seen a PSX compared to other things try and comment on its size and take blank and blinds shots at judging it.

Look here, i have seen the PSX before. Its on sale in NZ for $799. And you're right its not that big but don't just assume that the person posting that comment hasnt seen something that been out since last year.

[Omega Blue]

there are various screenshots especially next to Plasma TV's to get a good estimate of how big it is.

[KlawHammer]

I get the message mate. :evil:

[gamingmonkey2004]

i just hope the PS3 wont be all boxy and have a little design like the PS2 it wasnt just a plain box it had a little style that is what sets it aside from everything else and plus white is the new black :D

[KlawHammer]

White is alittle like my mums kitchenware - its plain. Thats partly the reason why the Dreamcast got cooked.

[gamingmonkey2004]

i dont think dreamcast was "cooked" cause it was white i think it was because it really had no good games at all and it was...well just plain crap there wasnt much there to make it special

[KlawHammer]

Its plain color when compared to PS2 were part of it fall. And yea it had a lack of games - it only hit 200 games mid 2003.

[gamingmonkey2004]

i think it was dead before 2003 o and who out there goes out and picks out a system for the color? please dont give me that i dont think cause of the color white is a big deal! if it was good white wouldnt bother me hide it behind something or spray paint it

[KlawHammer]

There, even you seem to dislike white -"if it was good white wouldnt bother me hide it behind something or spray paint it".

[gamingmonkey2004]

your twisting my words mah freind. i ment if i were someone who hated white and hte dreamcast was good i would get it hense if the PS3 was white i would get it no matter what even if it was purple...but i would hesitate a little on the purple idea

[KlawHammer]

You mean even if it were pink you'd like it?

[gamingmonkey2004]

i would wince in pain but yes i would get it..maybe put a blanket over it or something but yes i would get it if it were pink

[KlawHammer]

LOL. :lol: :lol: :lol: So color does sometimes matter.

[gamingmonkey2004]

it doenst matter i would still buy it but i wouldnt like looking at it! geez! how many times do i have to say it!? if it were a good console and it was rainbow, pink, purple, pink with purple poka dots i would buy it cause it is good! but we know it wont be anything outragious like that

[KlawHammer]

Yes probably not.

[brownbeaner2]

yup i would go with the spray painting it idea but i would still get it

[KlawHammer]

Oh i see. Am i the only one who thinks the PS3 should be black?

[Omega Blue]

they already used black. you have extremely bad technological fashion sense. :P

[Fats]

I've said before that I think that it's going to be Silver, simply because a lot of electronics these days are Silver.

[NickSCFC]

Look at Japanese electronic, the're going white, possibly setting the trend for the rest of us.

[Fats]

Overall I think that there are three colours that Sony will definitely choose from... Silver, White and Black. Because the PS2 was Black, then they will most likely consider a different colour. So it's a toss up between Silver and White.

But who knows, they might surprise us with a really surreal colour! :shock:

[KlawHammer]

Japanese electronics are going silver actually. Before that they were black, unless you live in an outdated conutry you would agree. :idea:

[NickSCFC]

Silver is soooooooo 2001.

[NickSCFC]

Ever considered that PlayStation 3 might be wooden?

http://www.sonycentres.co.uk/ProductImages/ProductMainImage/001293_001.jpg

PS, have a look at Sonys UK website (www.sony.co.uk), it's very smart as far as websites go.

[Matt]

I've got that CD Player. Would go well with my PS3 :)

I get the feeling that Sony would want to use something a little lighter and less flammable as well.

[KlawHammer]

Yes lol, like PLASTIC.

[GT4 RULZ]

wow that does look nice macpakitywak. but wat is it :lol:

[macpakitywak]

sorry for my double posts and what not, i was having a bit of computer trouble, but i got it to work,(so maybe one of you forum moderators could delete them for me or something, cuz it doesnt seem to want to do it for me), but yeah i would love if the ps3 looked simliar to my favourite looking computer:
http://www19.pos.to/~cyberdogg3/cube.jpg

the Apple G4 cube, amazing...

[stanDarsh]

sorry for my double posts and what not, i was having a bit of computer trouble, but i got it to work,(so maybe one of you forum moderators could delete them for me or something, cuz it doesnt seem to want to do it for me), but yeah i would love if the ps3 looked simliar to my favourite looking computer:
http://www19.pos.to/~cyberdogg3/cube.jpg

the Apple G4 cube, amazing...

It is nice, but i also think it looks like a futuristic toaster :D

[gamingmonkey2004]

sorry for my double posts and what not, i was having a bit of computer trouble, but i got it to work,(so maybe one of you forum moderators could delete them for me or something, cuz it doesnt seem to want to do it for me), but yeah i would love if the ps3 looked simliar to my favourite looking computer:
http://www19.pos.to/~cyberdogg3/cube.jpg

the Apple G4 cube, amazing...

It is nice, but i also think it looks like a futuristic toaster :D
i can hear/see it now! "this toaster is not your ordinary toaster it toast not one not two but 15 things at once! not only can you toast your childrens bagels and your husbands toast but you can pay your bills electronicly over the toaster information super highway!"

[KlawHammer]

Lol yes. Look the 2 slice of bread go on the sides and in the middle is a griller. :lol:

[GT4 RULZ]

maybe we should set up a topic forr jokes only

[ultimategamer2004]

I think it will also be in white,black and silver i will probably get the silver one. I like the apple g4 but i like the g5 more because i've got one.

[gamingmonkey2004]

i dont think that Sony will go for the "Pick your own color cause purple is ugly!" i think it will pick on good color and leave it like that

[KlawHammer]

It always does anyway

[Archadium]

I have a WILD idea on the shape(Not possible tho...
I think it should be a pyramid... At the base at the front would be the cd tray controller ports and Mem crds above it and have a gold sheen to it... I just think systems are dull as parrallelograms and should be oblong shapes maybe even a Spherical ovel with short supports... I wish i had a camera hooked into my mind so you guys can see what i mean. :roll: :idea: :roll: [/quote]

[KlawHammer]

Very good, yes good concept. But wont it be a little sharp on the top? If a kid comes along and trips and falls on the errr...top.... the kid would suffer from some er... permanent damage.

[CrumCon]

Lenin is right, i think its too sharp on the top. And i dont think they would make that design.

I like PSX design, but it should a litle bit smaller.
on the front:
2 USB Ports
2 controller ports
2 Memorystick ports ( mem-card ports removed and replaced with MS ports)
CD tray
A small LCD

[KlawHammer]

Yea that would be cool. You wont be able to see any pots of any sort except for the open/reset/power buttons - low profile.

[Matt]

Very good, yes good concept. But wont it be a little sharp on the top? If a kid comes along and trips and falls on the errr...top.... the kid would suffer from some er... permanent damage.

It would teach the kid not to run indoors though.....

Good God, 2000 posts. I've wasted my life.

[KlawHammer]

(laughs out loud) Yea it sure would.

[gamingmonkey2004]

"heres my dads card son we will teach Sony to make their Systems pointed" jk
plus another thing bad about it being pyramid is that what about people that want to put it in cabnit or something? anyway nice idea but focus your creativity a little different.

[KlawHammer]

Why not a clear-plastic case? Like hard plastic which you can see right through as if it were glass.

[gamingmonkey2004]

Why not a clear-plastic case? Like hard plastic which you can see right through as if it were glass.
i dunno that might rub certain people the wrong way because people dont want something ugly in their living room that is showing computer chips and stuff. i think they should just have a color and a nice design and nice symbl

[ultimategamer2004]

Why not a clear-plastic case? Like hard plastic which you can see right through as if it were glass.

People have clear cases for pcs so why not put the ps3 in one it would look good if they had neon pipes for the wires to go though.

[ZipZapPro]

Why not a clear-plastic case? Like hard plastic which you can see right through as if it were glass.

People have clear cases for pcs so why not put the ps3 in one it would look good if they had neon pipes for the wires to go though.
Well, if they decide not to make the whole thing see through, they should have a little glass panel over the CD so you can see it spin! :D I wanted to mod my PS2 like that but it was WAY to hard!

[gamingmonkey2004]

you can get a new case and its a flip top case and you can watch the CD spin then

[macpakitywak]

back to the ps3 looking like the G4 cube, i like how the cube has convection cooling(which is what those vents are for, for you people who like making fun of them :wink: ) so no fan is needed, which would be nice to not have a loud fan going to cool the thing, just silence(except for the sound from your game of course)...i also like how the cube has just a picture for the standbye that you touch, its not an actual 'button', its just a picture that has a touch sensitive sensor under it with a cool light that glows through the symbol when you've turned the system on...hope ps3 has some cool little design touches like that

[gamingmonkey2004]

a glowing symbol would deffinatly be cool! and it changes colors according to the color scheme of the PS3

[Omega Blue]

back to the ps3 looking like the G4 cube, i like how the cube has convection cooling(which is what those vents are for, for you people who like making fun of them :wink: ) so no fan is needed, which would be nice to not have a loud fan going to cool the thing, just silence(except for the sound from your game of course)...i also like how the cube has just a picture for the standbye that you touch, its not an actual 'button', its just a picture that has a touch sensitive sensor under it with a cool light that glows through the symbol when you've turned the system on...hope ps3 has some cool little design touches like that

the G4 Cube looks like a Gamecube, and how did that do?

G4Cube is wrong in everyway.

[macpakitywak]

k im sorry but thats like saying the ps2 looks like a bookend and therefore sucks...the fact that the gamecube was also a cubic shape doesnt doom a ps3 based on the G4 cube design to failure...for one, the gamecube looks like a 3 year-old fischer-price toy with its multi-coloured plastic crap, while the G4 cube looks like an expensive industrial design piece and interesting peice of engineering, which it is, and i was thinking a small but powerful ps3 similar in design to the G4 cube would convey the 'cell' theme very nicely...small and powerful on its own, and immensely powerful when working together with its siblings...idk about your feelings on apple design omega blue, but i know a lot of people really appreciate the style of their products, and thats why they are considered sophisticated(and expensive) machines, and i think that thats whats sony is going for now...look at the psx if you need proof

[KlawHammer]

mm. The PS3 wouldnt look bad even if it did in some remote way, resemble the GC. As for the clear disk drive,lol tha twould be cool as with the neon piping. But in the end it would cost a little much to put all that fancy stuff than just putting good 'ol cheap plastic. I think the PS3 should have a "base design" , a sort of platform, in which people can easily modify it like get different parts for the case, like PC-case modding.

[Omega Blue]

the G4 design just looks to plain, and read my sig.

[gamingmonkey2004]

k im sorry but thats like saying the ps2 looks like a bookend and therefore sucks...the fact that the gamecube was also a cubic shape doesnt doom a ps3 based on the G4 cube design to failure...for one, the gamecube looks like a 3 year-old fischer-price toy with its multi-coloured plastic crap, while the G4 cube looks like an expensive industrial design piece and interesting peice of engineering
i know your thinking "i" before "e" except after c but sometimes that rule does not apply and this was the time i mean...we are not eating a peice of pie. anyway i do not think Sony is going to go for the very boxy look. one thing that might be cool is on the top it would have a screen that tells you the game that is in. that could also support the disc changer idea

[macpakitywak]

ok omega, i read your signature, and i guess you got the asshole part right, but thats about it..yes, to the uncultured eye the design of the G4 cube might look plain, but you have to remember sony is going to start going for the simple, elegant, and expensive look. again, look at the psx if you need proof....im one of those people who find beauty in simplicity, as most objects that are considered beautiful are...be it a building or a car or a entertainment system...and thanks gamingmonkey, ill know who to call when i need my term paper proof-read.

[gamingmonkey2004]

your going to be killed...not by me maybe not Omega but with an additude like that watch your back

[macpakitywak]

whoa, tone down the testosterone monkeyman...what attitude are we talking about exactly? i made a very mild comeback to you correcting my spelling mistake, and omega told me to read his sig, and he called himself an asshole, so i dont know where the big surprise is, so just chill out :wink: so lets not turn this into a big argument and stay focused on the design of the ps3

[brownbeaner2]

what is the big deal with spelling,
i say as long as you can read it that should be good enough
and if you do care that much about it go take a typing course

[Omega Blue]

to me, the G4 is just to plain. nothing that stands out. if anything i suggest Sony stick with a PSX like design, its simple yet the colors and design make it seem almost elegant.

[gamingmonkey2004]

well first off i was just trying to help him out i was not getting crazy or psycotic second i dont care much for the G4 and the PSX design and color scheme is great..think i already said this once before. but they should take the PSX and put a little more design to it like on the PS2 it wasnt just a box it had style with those deep in densions arlound and stuff.

[çä§Ñ]

ok omega, i read your signature, and i guess you got the asshole part right, but thats about it..yes, to the uncultured eye the design of the G4 cube might look plain, but you have to remember sony is going to start going for the simple, elegant, and expensive look. again, look at the psx if you need proof....im one of those people who find beauty in simplicity, as most objects that are considered beautiful are...be it a building or a car or a entertainment system...and thanks gamingmonkey, ill know who to call when i need my term paper proof-read.

You're right, simplicity is a key factor in Design. Things shouldn't be too simple but you get the idea.

You know all those logos that are simple, but look great? That's good design. :D

your going to be killed...not by me maybe not Omega but with an additude like that watch your back

What attitude? You pointed out some spelling mistakes he made and he retaliated in a good way if you ask me. Spelling mistakes happen all the time. Live with it.

[KlawHammer]

Dude, do you have to be in an arguement with someone at every single post? There's not one poost of yours Assasn, that i've seen that contains no arguement.

[gamingmonkey2004]

ok omega, i read your signature, and i guess you got the asshole part right, but thats about it..yes, to the uncultured eye the design of the G4 cube might look plain, but you have to remember sony is going to start going for the simple, elegant, and expensive look. again, look at the psx if you need proof....im one of those people who find beauty in simplicity, as most objects that are considered beautiful are...be it a building or a car or a entertainment system...and thanks gamingmonkey, ill know who to call when i need my term paper proof-read.

You're right, simplicity is a key factor in Design. Things shouldn't be too simple but you get the idea.

You know all those logos that are simple, but look great? That's good design. :D

your going to be killed...not by me maybe not Omega but with an additude like that watch your back

What attitude? You pointed out some spelling mistakes he made and he retaliated in a good way if you ask me. Spelling mistakes happen all the time. Live with it.
well maybe you should get your head out your a$$ and se ethat in one of your quotes that you qouted he is calling people assholes and acting like a moron and how bout you stay out of this noob!

[Omega Blue]

Dude, do you have to be in an arguement with someone at every single post? There's not one poost of yours Assasn, that i've seen that contains no arguement.

i agree, it seems he just jions a post to start arguements and has to piont out that he dis-agrees with that person, then why he does, then on to try and make a piont he is failing to make. Asasn seriously, start posting something worthy of being read. how new you are here pionts out that you have no authority of starting shit. if you can not read and except someones oppinion then a message board is a place where you belong. especially one such as this.

[KlawHammer]

Oi Omega, thats a massive avatar!

[gamingmonkey2004]

anyway guys lets stop arguing and get back to the disscusion of the design

P.S. nice avatar thingy or w/e it is

[KlawHammer]

Yea back to the duscussion, doesnt anyone agree with me when i suggested that the PS3 should be like a base platform? ::think PC case modding::

[gamingmonkey2004]

by base platform what do you mean? just plain and boxy?

[macpakitywak]

im thinking maybe the term will just describe the chipset, and the chipset will be put in several products, so the 'ps3' may take several forms, maybe as a pure gaming console, maybe as part of an all-in-one home theater, as part of a psx type machine, or maybe be included inside high-end tv's i.e., or maybe as part of a home computer/server...in all of these machines except the pure gaming ps3, the machine has other uses besides playing ps3 games, but thats the one thing they all also have in common...i think it would be neat to have a big 42'' plasma tv with a little slot on the side to load your ps3 game/blu-ray movie/blank blu-ray to record tv and whatnot...idk if it was in this forum or not but i saw someone right that ps3 will just be the brand of game, and it will be able to be played on any sony product that has ps3/Cell hardware in it

[gamingmonkey2004]

can i kiss your feet! your the first new person that has said anything smart in all the new person ive ever seen!

EDIT: being more respectful and changed noob into new person because the word noob is an insult

[Omega Blue]

im thinking maybe the term will just describe the chipset, and the chipset will be put in several products, so the 'ps3' may take several forms, maybe as a pure gaming console, maybe as part of an all-in-one home theater, as part of a psx type machine, or maybe be included inside high-end tv's i.e., or maybe as part of a home computer/server...in all of these machines except the pure gaming ps3, the machine has other uses besides playing ps3 games, but thats the one thing they all also have in common...i think it would be neat to have a big 42'' plasma tv with a little slot on the side to load your ps3 game/blu-ray movie/blank blu-ray to record tv and whatnot...idk if it was in this forum or not but i saw someone right that ps3 will just be the brand of game, and it will be able to be played on any sony product that has ps3/Cell hardware in it

this completely elemenates them making a game console if every product that has the cell will play a video game. this would be stupid for sony to do if they wanted to ever push as mny units of the Ps3 as they have of the Ps1 and Ps2. and gamingmonkey stop posting like your far superior to some of the new people jioning, you posted some of the stupidest shit alive when you first jioned.

[gamingmonkey2004]

i know...i wish i could go back and read those but still some people really do make stupid posts and yes i did too :oops: and many people are guilty of that and i sometimes make stupid posts no and then like this one so i will tie it into the topic. i really dont mean to act like im far superior than people who just join its just that many ruin it for others and makes them look bad.
...i think it would be neat to have a big 42'' plasma tv with a little slot on the side to load your ps3 game/blu-ray movie/blank blu-ray to record tv and whatnot...idk if it was in this forum or not but i saw someone right that ps3 will just be the brand of game, and it will be able to be played on any sony product that has ps3/Cell hardware in it
that sounds stupid why would sony do something stupid like that? im sure that sony will make it only for the PS3 cause then anyone could play PS3 games..unless they do something like the PSX and call it...PSY or something i dunno but...they could be right

[KlawHammer]

Thats the dumbest thing i've ever heard. A brand of game? Where do we get these people....?

[macpakitywak]

ummm, why is it stupid? playstation 2 is a brand of game, it just so happens that its only playable on the ps2 system, and, depending on where you live, the psx...and im saying only SONY products would have the option of including a ps3 chipset, not all electronics companies, and i dont mean every product with a cell processor would be able to play ps3 games, i mean any product with the ps3 hardware will be able to, however many cells its composed of and its graphics/sound processor, etc....and obviously the majority of the ps3 chipsets sold will be a part of a pure gaming console or possibly a psx type system, but why not include it as a 300 dollar built-in component of a 2000 dollar home theater system that includes the reciever, dvd/blu-rau/ps3 game disc changer, speakers, etc...or as part of an option in some uber expensive huge plasma tv that costs 12000 dollars, im sure the rich bastard who is buying it wouldnt mind shelling out an extra 500 to include a built-in ps3 with a little disc slot on the tv along with an ethernet port so the living room in his mansion doest get all cluttered...again a VAST majority of the products with the ps3 chipset will be a console/psx type device, but for some people who have the money it could be an option...is it really that abstract of a concept for you guys? i mean how the hell do you think the tv with the built in vcr came about? or the computer with the drives built in instead of connecting everything externally...how about you guys try and think OUTSIDE the box for a second, alright?

[Omega Blue]

they WANT TO SELL PS3's do you ever hear sony go to a Ps2 confrence and say "hmm well we sold another 2 million consoles oh yeah but whats even better is we sold 1 million Sony Wegas haha we're so proud of out TV's even tho they dont effect the video game market as much as our console har har har"

your suggestion is you want Sony to push aside the console and implement it into there other products instead so they wont sell as many Consoles and loose the console wars.

i hope you never own a buisness cause you'll go under quicker then you can conjure up about bad marketing skeme.

Sony has specific products for certain purposes. you want a TV? well buy a TV, you want a DVD player? well get one. you want a VIDEO GAME CONSOLE then get A VIDEO GAME CONSOLE. the Psx wasn't a big hit, why? because it was so freakin expensive. sony would be loosing even more money if they were stupid enough to do what you did. the CELL itself might end up in Sony products but it wont play Ps3 games, why? because thats why they build video game consoles.

[Dreamcastmagic]

speaking of overpriced electronics PSP I think will fail

[macpakitywak]

ummm, you're missing the point omega...of course they're gonna sell more ps3s that are purely game consoles, thats COMMON SENSE, but if they're having the same chipset inside a tv or entertainment centre, they are still MAKING MONEY, you think the physical plastic case that the chipset comes in is whats make the profit?! it might cost a total of 20 dollars to make, if that....they are still making the main chipsets in large volumes, and it doesnt matter what the hell its going in....thats the main expense of the system, and thats what gets cheaper if you produce it in large volumes...like i said BEFORE, the main option for MOST people will be a standard game console ps3, maybe a psx type device if they save up, but people who have the money might like to invest in a all-in-one theatre or plasma tv with a ps3 chipset in it, it would be a status thing, or a nice to have, not something that would be a main option for most people...its like with cars, the base model of a car company may have the same engine as the top-of-the-line model, but the people who have the money for the top of the line model might buy it because its NICER, even though someone with the base model could accomplish pretty much the same thing, in fact, thats how car companies, and im sure electronic companies save money as well, by having SIMILAR COMPONENTS, and not specialised ones for each product, because that SAVES MONEY

[Omega Blue]

ummm, you're missing the point omega...of course they're gonna sell more ps3s that are purely game consoles, thats COMMON SENSE, but if they're having the same chipset inside a tv or entertainment centre, they are still MAKING MONEY, you think the physical plastic case that the chipset comes in is whats make the profit?! it might cost a total of 20 dollars to make, if that....they are still making the main chipsets in large volumes, and it doesnt matter what the hell its going in....thats the main expense of the system, and thats what gets cheaper if you produce it in large volumes...like i said BEFORE, the main option for MOST people will be a standard game console ps3, maybe a psx type device if they save up, but people who have the money might like to invest in a all-in-one theatre or plasma tv with a ps3 chipset in it, it would be a status thing, or a nice to have, not something that would be a main option for most people...its like with cars, the base model of a car company may have the same engine as the top-of-the-line model, but the people who have the money for the top of the line model might buy it because its NICER, even though someone with the base model could accomplish pretty much the same thing, in fact, thats how car companies, and im sure electronic companies save money as well, by having SIMILAR COMPONENTS, and not specialised ones for each product, because that SAVES MONEY

omg...since im not in the same place you are, Can you smack your self? plz? thanks.

let me break this down, the Chipset cost money to make. you have to pay for the silicon, the fabrication and the rest of what ever happens. Sony then puts them in a Console, these consoles are severly under priced compare to how much it really cost them to manufacture. ok now with your TV idea, ok lets say a 12000 thousand dollar plasma cost 10000 to make, now your brilliant idea was to put a chipset in for 150 now add that to manufacturing cost . lets say 250 not to mention how much its gonna cost to re-design the plasma's for this function. now the Ps3's are selling for 300 maybe 350 or 400 in some areas. they are now loosing at least 50 more (yes more rememeber they are pricing the Ps3 at already under what it cost them) dollars thanks to your brilliant skeme. not only that but since some people will buy the Plasma screen instead sony now looses Console numbers/sales. as for the PS2 and PSX well i dont know what fantasy land your living in but they didn't do very well in Japan. now this is Japan we're talking about. they are far more likely to by Sony products then any other country. now this is just with the plasma, not with any other product you listed. that money adds up. Sony can't be throwing around there money on a wim. one of the reason the PsX took so long to come out is because they are now safe to try new things since they already sold 70 Mill+ Ps2's. Sony is gonna sell Ps3's, but how many when people are gonna try and buy the other products that can do the same?

and Dreamcast, you know how much the PSP is gonna cost? do you have a link from a confrence that quotes a Sony Rep saying how much the PSP is gonna cost? Do You? if not shut up noob.

[KlawHammer]

Lol, Omega you always have the last word....

[gamingmonkey2004]

well i mean people like that dont need to be so hard headed. why would Sony put PS3 technolgy in a DVD player made by Sony its stupid.

[NickSCFC]

Macpicketywak has some rather good ideas, imagine the scenario...

PlayStation 3

Games console (256 bit), uses Cell, similar in size to Dreamcast, plays PS1, PS2 and PS3 games, plays DVDs and CD, connects to the net for online gaming. Cost £300.

PSX Next

Media Centre (256 bit), uses Cell, similar in size to PSX, plays PS1, PS2 and PS3 games, has built in digital TV tuner, records DVDs and CDs, connects to the net for web browsing, media downloads and online gaming. Cost £600.

[gamingmonkey2004]

but hes not talking about just the next PSX he is talking about all things made by Sony should have the cell chip and play PS3 games

[NickSCFC]

I can't believe how narrow minded some of these people are. Anyone who understands the idea behind digital convergance will be able to understand the direction that Sony and Microsoft are taking.

Imagine in the future you have a box, that sits underneath your TV set, it connects to a secure network where you can download, movies, music, games and watch digital TV. This is all provided by either Sony or Microsoft, depending on which box you own. There will be no games consoles, there will be no DVD payers, no Hi-Fi's, no VCRs.

PSX and Xbox are just trial runs of this idea, it may seem like a "console war", but both Sony and Microsoft are loosing money, they will regain this money when the above has been implimented. Now maybe you'll understand it a little better.

[gamingmonkey2004]

Are you talking to me? :?:

[NickSCFC]

Yes, you were the one calling macpakitywak stupid when he was actually very close to being completely right.

[gamingmonkey2004]

ok...maybe i dont understand the concept of putting PS3 in all things Sony makes. i would think they should make jsut hte PS3 and jsut he PS3 and not make many duplicates of the same thing just in different boxes and looks differnet. i mean w/e i dont care everyone has their own opinion and i think its stupid. if you want to play PS3 games buy a PS3 or the next PSX if there will be one

[NickSCFC]

Sony won't be putting PS3 in "other things", there may not even be "other things" if PlayStation 3 turns out to be the "box" that I described above.

[gamingmonkey2004]

thats like a PSX

[NickSCFC]

Yes, PSX is the first of a kind, but it's just a prototype of the idea of convergance.

[gamingmonkey2004]

macpakitywak was talking about that in all things that Sony makes to put in a Cell Chip so it can play PS3 games....well tahts atleast what i understood maybe i misread ill re-read it

Edit:im thinking maybe the term will just describe the chipset, and the chipset will be put in several products, so the 'ps3' may take several forms, maybe as a pure gaming console, maybe as part of an all-in-one home theater, as part of a psx type machine, or maybe be included inside high-end tv's i.e., or maybe as part of a home computer/server...in all of these machines except the pure gaming ps3, the machine has other uses besides playing ps3 games, but thats the one thing they all also have in common...i think it would be neat to have a big 42'' plasma tv with a little slot on the side to load your ps3 game/blu-ray movie/blank blu-ray to record tv and whatnot...idk if it was in this forum or not but i saw someone right that ps3 will just be the brand of game, and it will be able to be played on any sony product that has ps3/Cell hardware in it yea i was right he wanted to put it in Sony Tvs and stuff

[NickSCFC]

The idea of having a seperate peice of hardware for games, music and video is rather primative, don't you think? Now that television, video, music and games are all using the same digital format they can all be enjoyed through just one simple machine, be it PC or PSX. That's the way I see it and it's the way Sony and Microsoft see it.

You can allready see it happening now, Microsoft launching Xbox (its first peice of entertainment hardware), Sony and Microsoft launching pay for music downoad services later in the year, Sony making PSX, Microsoft releasing Windows Media Centre, the future is begining now.

[gamingmonkey2004]

well Sony wants to make money and the more of the things they sell the better
1) for the tv
2) for the Console

and with it comeing with a tv it would be very expensive! a 27" is like 600 bucks then plus the Playstation technology in it. i think that would be quite ridiculous. every like 5 years. i need to go buy a new TV cause the new technology came out on the gaming section on my tv

[NickSCFC]

You still dont understand what it's all about do you. Take some time to read this link (http://www.playstation3insider.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1332&start=0). It's a little old but it basically explains why Sony and Microsoft started making games consoles and why it intends to dump games consoles, video players and music systems for "all in one" digital entertainment systems.

Read it properly and you'll probably come away from it wanting to buy a PSX.

[gamingmonkey2004]

i know about hte PSX! he was just saying in random things that SOny makes to put PS3 tech in it so it plays games. like "hey look a CD player! o what do you know it plays PS3 games!" stupid things like that not an all in one system

[NickSCFC]

He repeatedly mentions "all in one" and "PSX style system", nothing about CD players though.

[gamingmonkey2004]

quote="macpakitywak"]im thinking maybe the term will just describe the chipset, and the chipset will be put in several products, so the 'ps3' may take several forms, maybe as a pure gaming console, maybe as part of an all-in-one home theater, as part of a psx type machine, or maybe be included inside high-end tv's i.e., or maybe as part of a home computer/server...in all of these machines except the pure gaming ps3, the machine has other uses besides playing ps3 games, but thats the one thing they all also have in common...i think it would be neat to have a big 42'' plasma tv with a little slot on the side to load your ps3 game/blu-ray movie/blank blu-ray to record tv and whatnot...idk if it was in this forum or not but i saw someone right that ps3 will just be the brand of game, and it will be able to be played on any sony product that has ps3/Cell hardware in it[/quote]
PS the CD player thing was just an example

[NickSCFC]

But he's talking about systems that combine video, music and games, just the same as the "box" I was telling you about.

[gamingmonkey2004]

he only says that in one spot and the other things is about in Tvs and what not. but maybe i got thrown off at the part about the tvs and stuff who know i dont care im to sleepy to argue anymore lets call it a draw and disagree in a different thread

[NickSCFC]

In the future TV sets will only serve as a visual/audio output system. Don't confuse TV sets with media systems, they only serve to compliment each other and in the future will be competely dependant on each other.

Thought you could go a whole thread without seeing Linda Barker? You thought wrong, here she is displaying a TV set and a media system working together in harmony.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39891000/jpg/_39891040_home_linda203.jpg

[gamingmonkey2004]

i know. that was hte part that really confused me. but still i dont like the idea of only things of the PSX cause its quite expensive
At the bottom it says how much it is (http://www.playstation3insider.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=360&start=45)
maybe its just me but 750 dollars is alot of money

[NickSCFC]

In the future TV sets will only serve as a visual/audio output system. Don't confuse TV sets with media systems, they only serve to compliment each other and in the future will be competely dependant on each other.

Thought you could go a whole thread without seeing Linda Barker? You thought wrong, here she is displaying a TV set and a media system working together in harmony.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39891000/jpg/_39891040_home_linda203.jpg

Admit it, you found that funny :roll:

[gamingmonkey2004]

yes it was...especially her face...great im going to have nightmares now! thanks alot

[macpakitywak]

finally someone who has the IQ to UNDERSTAND what im talking about, thank you NickSCFC...moneky you are so incapable of understanding what im talking about its not even funny, and omega....sigh...you must live out in the desert and dont have any access to civilized society...which btw is nowhere in arizona....anyway, as per monkey's comment that i supposedly said i wanted the ps3 chipset in everything, you are severly misquoting me, to the point where its not a quote at all....since when did "several" products turn into "everything sony makes"....Nick knows what im talking about, and its the direction sony and other companies are going with there multimedia entertaintment systems, so you guys better DEAL WITH IT...omega, are you completely dense? you're comparing apples to oranges...OF COURESE sony is going to sell more ps3s then a psx type device or plasma with built in ps3 hardware, thats common sense...idk what thread it was but it was this exact same argument: a psx type device isnt going to have the high volume sales that a pure game console will have, because of the price factor, but it would be an option that some people would consider because they can afford it...thats like saying honda is expecting sell the same amount of civics and top-of-the line acuras...people may want a plasma with a built in ps3/psx functionality because its exclusive and very state of the art, but its most certainly not going to be a high volume product...the original POINT of my initial post on this was the the ps3 chipset might make it into SEVERAL(monkey, read: a few sony products, not to exceed the number 10), thus, naturally, affecting the design of the product the chipset is in...yes, initially the ps3 hardware may come in only console form, but since one of the purposes of cell was to include it in many products, i think that manufacturing costs will go down compared to the ps2 chipset (why do you think these companies are investing so much money into it?) and, in turn, will make it feasible to include the ps3 chipset in higher end prodcuts for the people who want a media centre type device, or for the super rich who want a tv that, due to the shrinking of the size of hardware, can include all these things in a very expensive flat screen 42" plasma...some of you guys are so close minded, you dont even look at what the industry is doing right now...the psx is selling well when compared to other tv recording/media centere devices, thats why they are EXPANDING the areas in which they are selling it, i.e. europe and later north america...funny how sony would do that omega, since you seem to think they are going bankrupt over it....dont ignore the signs, its where the indusrty is going, and, like i said earlier, DEAL WITH IT

[gamingmonkey2004]

accually i got confused on your post! i understadn the making things like PSX cause its an all in one "box" (as Nick likes to call it) but putting it in a TV i think is stupid. and like you said DEAL WITH IT! its my opinion and i dont think a person would like to pay that much on something like that and they for sure would lose money on that. Plus Plasma TVs ruin after 5 years cause all the plasma runs to the bottom of the screen. but not to mention gradually the picture gets worst. it may look amazing for like the first year and a half but then gravity sets in and makes the plasma to fall to the bottom making the top of the screen look bad and have bad color

[macpakitywak]

ok to be honest i dont know much about plasma tvs, but im just saying any large, nice, EXPENSIVE flat screen tv....adding another 500, hell, even a 1000 dollars wont matter to a person who wants psx type functionality all inside their tv...it would be expensive, but, for a rich person, very cool

[Omega Blue]

why would sony put it in something other then there consoles. the PSX is infact still considered a console. the Plasma TV idea is just retarded, whether is not you choose to believe it is up to you. boo hoo you can say i have a low IQ but we both know that isn't true.

Macpakitywak: the man who believes who own lies and shitty buisness plans. :lol:

[KlawHammer]

Its all a waste of money

[NickSCFC]

Sounds like a bad idea but when you consoder that smaller companies such as JVC and Tosiba incorporate video players (whether they be DVD or VHS) into their TV sets it sounds rather reasonable.

As I already said in another (quite long) post I would expect Sony to shift focus (after Cell) from hardware manufacturing to media distribution, possibly even a service similar to Sky + (for those of us in the UK) which uses broadband to deliver games, video, music, television, radio and web access to its "box" (maybe even PSX). The same goes for Microsoft too.

[gamingmonkey2004]

a DVD plays is only like 100 bucks so putting it in a TV isnt really that expensive comapred to something like a whole PSX in one tv

[NickSCFC]

It's an option which only a small percentage would take.

[SonySilver]

I would like it to be Silver with either red or orange on it. like PS2 was black with blue on it. They've already done gray and black...i think silver is the logical choice.

[NickSCFC]

Possibly they will release a standard colour at first (maybe white), then release black and silver versions too.

[Matt]

I reckon they'll just do whatever they've been doing with the PS2. Come out with a standard colour, and then release various others over time.

[gamingmonkey2004]

im thinking its going to be white with some oragne and blue like their Cassette player
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00008W2M6.16._SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg
or like their Cd player..which everyone knows what it looks like

[çä§Ñ]

Dude, do you have to be in an arguement with someone at every single post? There's not one poost of yours Assasn, that i've seen that contains no arguement.

Where do you see an argument here? I made one simple post in this entire thread.

It seems like you're only looking for certain post by me otherwise you would have noticed that not all my posts are arguments. I had "one" argument" with "one" person here. So sue me!

Do you actually have nothing better to do than point out some useless crap like that? What you said isn't even true so don't tell me what I do and don't post. You're on a "forum" here and people will argue no matter what you say. It's no surprise when every forum on this planet has at least one or two people like you and Omega.

Notice how I didn't reply to Omega's comments? He's the one I had the argument with before and I don't want to get into that again. He didn't have anything good to say anyway. I don't "WANT" to start arguments, I'm just stating my opinions and you can say whatever you want also, just don't expect me to pay any more attention to your lies. :x Do yourself a favor and move on. I'm not going to argue with you.

Back to topic.........I think the PS3 should follow the PS2 and remain black. (mostly black anyway) Black is the best color out there.

[KlawHammer]

See what i mean? Besides, why are you only replying to that post now? I posted that ages ago....

[çä§Ñ]

Hmmmm, maybe it's because I'm not on this forum every waking moment. That's fine if you're on here all the time, but I have a life to live.

Nice reply by the way. :roll: :lol:

[KlawHammer]

mmmm.. thats good to know.

[Scott R. Mraz]

Come one you two- focus on the topic again please.