PSP Online Discussion Thread Part 1

[NickSCFC]

Any idea of what sort of online capabilities the PSP will have? How will it connect to a network? Is there any chance that network gaming with the PSP will be compatable with PlayStation 2 and maybe even PlayStation 3?

PSP specs:

Input/Output

USB 2.0
Memory Stick
Extension Port (Reserved)
Stereo Head phone Out
Digital Keypad
Triangle, Circle, X, Square, L1, R1, Start, Select
One analog joystick

Communication

Wireless LAN(802.11) [Hotspots, Home Server, etc.]
IrDA [PSP, Mobile Phone, etc.]
USB 2.0 [PSP, PS2, PC, etc.]

If any of this has been announced before then I'm sorry. Looking at the forum, there isn't a topic for PSP Online, so I thought I'd make one anway for discussion.

[JoshD]

Nothing has been announced yet, so it is hard to tell. But with 802.11, the possibilities are there from some great connectivity. It just depends how they decide to use it.

[NickSCFC]

I'm so looking forward to playing Pro Evolution Soccer/Winning Eleven on the bus against my mate who's in his house. Don't mess this up Sony!

What multiplayer games do you think need to be ported to PSP with online play?

How about SOCOM, I'd love to see the old people faces on the bus while I'm playing that online. Round the back, MOVE YOU F*CKING MUPPETS!!!!!!

[DanM7890]

do you think they might have conterstrike or other half-life games to play online :?:

[NickSCFC]

Doesn't seem likely. Most PSP games will be arcade games.

[PSPBoye00]

Imagine counterstrike! WOAH!

[NickSCFC]

What is Counterstrike anyway?

[Matt]

It's a mod of the original Half-Life game. Terrorists Vs. Counter-Terrorists. It was just released recently on the Xbox, and CounterStrike: Condition Zero, which has been due for release for a while now, will be released on the PC.

If you've got ADSL I'd suggest downloading it and giving it a go.

http://www.counter-strike.net/

[NickSCFC]

Who produces these games? Have they announced that they are to develop for PSP?

[PSPBoye00]

no I wish :D

[NickSCFC]

I've noticed that USB (not shown on concept model) is among the specs. How will this be used? Maybe apart from downloading video and audio from a PC it could be used to connect to a PS2. What would a connection with PS2 give us?

[solidus]

Probably the same as what the GC/GBA connection can bring us, plus more.

[klaymen]

I've noticed that USB (not shown on concept model) is among the specs. How will this be used? Maybe apart from downloading video and audio from a PC it could be used to connect to a PS2. What would a connection with PS2 give us?

a lot of people have said things about the usb/L&R buttons/other stuff that wasn't on the concept modle, but you couldn't see the top of it. (nick, didn't mean to single you out) that stuff could be on the top, and some lazy modler didn't feel like making them so they just didn't have a top view.

btw, i meant to post this earlier on another thread, but never got around to it.

[NickSCFC]

Looking at the concept model I doubt it'll be like that anyway. Could you imagine how uncomfortable it would be to hold?

[Znegil]

It is all right there in you first text :D
IrDA [PSP, Mobile Phone, etc.] You can link then by Ir (Infrared)... but this will not be for high speed games (maybe chess :lol: )
USB 2.0 [PSP, PS2, PC, etc.] or by USB-Cable...
Where is the question? :idea:

[dryclean only]

hopefully more places will become "hotspots" so the psp will be even more mobal.

[GodZeRo]

IrDa is as fast as most cable modems... but then again, short range.
But that is good as well... for "secure" IM's to your friend in class,ect.... like passing a note.. you can't read it unless you are verry close.

[dryclean only]

well as long as people dont find out how to hack into your psp's through its online capabilities.

[GodZeRo]

well as long as people dont find out how to hack into your psp's through its online capabilities.
What would be the point? To steal your save game files?
That's why PS2 online and Xbox online have such little trouble.. what's there to get? Why would someone even try.. except for your worst enemy who has hacking skills.
(ps: don't piss off a nerd, it can bite back..LOL)

[dryclean only]

good point but oh forget about it. i wonder if you could transmit mp3s using the online thingy?

[KingTalo]

I've noticed that USB (not shown on concept model) is among the specs. How will this be used? Maybe apart from downloading video and audio from a PC it could be used to connect to a PS2. What would a connection with PS2 give us?

Well as we already know the PS2 HDD is right around the corner; and, most likely, will be bundled with apps like audio/video players, web browsers, IM software and the like. So the functionality is there, the devs only have to take advantage of it. You could be transfering the mp3s/videos you wanna watch your PSP via any old usb cord, and the PSP could store them on its memory stick (what would be nice is if psp supports AAC so you can load ~ twice the amount of music).

Maybe they'll use it in a similar way nintendo has always made gameboy able to link up with its parent console to access special features. The possibilities are endless.

[Danji]

Having the PSP online would only serve to make me pay another $100 on it. I really like the idea of having wireless lan of huge multiplayer but I don't like the idea of me buying a WAN to connect to the internet to play other people. Besides, if you're playing online how can you smacktalk your opponent?

[neptunez]

finally someone who understands! :)

I don't think there will be much online enabled psp games (if any)

though I would be in favor of downloadable extras for games.

example.

Lets say namco released a fighter and offered a downloadable fighter or costume to you memory stick.

Or the ability to play your own mp3 tracks while playing a racing game
(or anything of that nature)

[NickSCFC]

Any news of whether PSP will have Wi-Fi support? I was reading that every street in every major city in the UK will have access for Wi-Fi compatable devices. Apparently many places such as hotels and bars in London already have them.

[NickSCFC]

*realises Wi-Fi and IEEE 802.11 are the same thing*

:roll:

www.wi-fi.org

[Metz]

Hi everybody (hi Docter Nick). I'm a noob :oops: . And noobs have questions. Is there any handheld that is out or coming out, better than the PSP? And how do GC, PS2, PS1, XBox, GBA, Zodiac, Gametrac, compare to PSP?

O ya, and this Wi-Fi thingy, will it be in the U.S.
And one more thing, I've heard that PSP will have a tracking system, is this true?


Thanks, Metz the Noob

[Gegenki]

Supposedly PSP will have GPS, and supposedly there will be different versions of it, but anyway. What does the online thingy mean. Will we only be able to use it near special recievers or what??

I want it to be like my wap(use it anywhere) only faster than the GPRS(56k). Like a wireless Broadband and maybe if you already have Broadband, it can go onto the same bill. What's the point if you can only go online at home. It defeats the objective in the "Portable" sense.

If you can send high quality sound over the phone and pictures and text, you should be able to send otherstuff too
Don't quote me on that. It seems sound but i heard how it isnt possible yet to send video over radio waves but still have a look at your mobile phone, and that stupid "3" phone company, that make the phones you have to hold at arms length

AND AND each one would have a unique number and first time u go online you register and then it's with your Broadband bill meaning you dont have to pay stupid per minute fees.



YEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS It all fits together!!!! :twisted:

[ultimategamer2004]

I think it is very likely that the psp will have online capabilites.

[gamingmonkey2004]

yes it will most likly have online capabilities cause of the "cell phone" add-on but you would be charged per hour most likly on playing it online cause of your cell phone service provider

OMG 200 posts what a mile-stone

[draco04]

Congrates on 200 post I hope I can get that many. anyway I also think there will be some inline capablitys such as music and game downloads.

[gamingmonkey2004]

thanks, but you can do it too if you post enough and do not make meaningless posts like the one you just made

[draco04]

Thanks for the advice...................... meaningless enough for you. :D :D :D :D 8)

[gamingmonkey2004]

im going to assasinate your simling faces but seriously back to topic lets keep this to topic before the thread is deleted

[draco04]

Alright so will it have online capablitys?????????? :D :D :D 8)

[gamingmonkey2004]

YES! look around some a read alittle...i asume you can read right?

[draco04]

Yes I can read ,and I have read that it will have online capiblitys it's just that the bell was ringing so I had to log off and go to class. 8)

[gamingmonkey2004]

why are you on PS3 insider during school isnt that like illegal?

WAHOO! 300 posts 8)

[draco04]

Not that I know of. 8)



p.s. congrates on 300 posts

[gamingmonkey2004]

Not that I know of. 8)



p.s. congrates on 300 posts
well that doesnt matter cause im in school right now also posting

[draco04]

your............sittig .............. right................. next to me...................just kidding. :D 8)

[gamingmonkey2004]

your............sitting .............. right................. next to me...................just kidding. :D 8)
so your a little wierd but thats ok...i guess......freak

[draco04]

well anyway let's get back to talking about what online capiblitys it will have before the thread is deleted............sound familar. :D 8)

[gamingmonkey2004]

this thread wont be deleted because it is sticky but the mods will delete your stupid noobish posts

[draco04]

So but still I would rather talk about what we are suppost to then fight with you because no one is learning anything. :roll: 8)

[gamingmonkey2004]

then stop making stupid posts to bring you out of your noob position

[ultimategamer2004]

Yes I can read ,and I have read that it will have online capiblitys it's just that the bell was ringing so I had to log off and go to class. 8)

PS3 insider has been filtered out in my school i think i will have to try it out some day.

[NickSCFC]

I thought they took web access out of Primary Schools to protect you kiddies from Paedo's such as GamingMonkey2004.

[gamingmonkey2004]

Yes I can read ,and I have read that it will have online capiblitys it's just that the bell was ringing so I had to log off and go to class. 8)

PS3 insider has been filtered out in my school i think i will have to try it out some day.
PS3insider hasnt been blocked because my school doesnt have the software to block out of country sites...or something i dunno.

[draco04]

it's just that schools can't block site that are not in the u.s. so site that are in japan germany china ect. they can't touch.

[gamingmonkey2004]

thats almost the same post twice whats with that? its the same but a few words are the same.
maybe Death Jr. will have some sort of online section but i doubt it online really isnt for a platformer

[draco04]

see every time I go back to edit a post it posts it again and it will not let me delete it.............I must be doing somthing wrong. :x

[gamingmonkey2004]

but its not the same post but it has the same idea. just delete one of them already.

[Matt]

The reason why the sites get restricted is because certain subjects are on a restricted list. At our college PS3i isn't restricted for some reason, but there you go.....

Some sites get restricted after a while depending on how many people visit that particular site, or if the moderators of the network notice a site being visited. For example, a game site that wasn't restricted here was restricted recently because evverybody went on it, knowing that ic ould be accessed.

But anyway, can an we get back to the subject with this thread now.

[gamingmonkey2004]

one thing about online if it was online you would have to be in a hot spot or hooked up to a wall to get to the internet so it kinda defets the purpose of having online. unless your wireless service provider has some sort of service plan for the PSP. or Sony charges per month to have online like Xbox live...but then Sony would have to put cells(cells for cell phones) up or make a deal with verison, cingular or w/e so there will be online for the PSP

[NickSCFC]

In a few years alot of pubs, buses and trains will have Wi-Fi allowing you to connect to the internet from there.

[CrumCon]

okay just imagine, we could play Socom or racing game on our PSP. :)

but how will psp comunicate with our pc wirelessly ?
And is it possible to use PSP's UDB port - connected to PC for online gaming?

[ultimategamer2004]

In a few years alot of pubs, buses and trains will have Wi-Fi allowing you to connect to the internet from there.

Thats a good idea and i think it will happen someday but maybe not 3 years i would say somthing like 10 years for thr majority of places.

[NickSCFC]

This could be of some use...

Wi-Fi Map (http://www.zdnet.co.uk/specials/wifimap/)

Displays where public Wi-Fi access points are in the UK, there's only six in my city (Stoke-on-Trent), but look at London!

[ultimategamer2004]

Huh well i dont know where i've been the map went dodgy on me but 6 in stoke - on -trent well i will have to hunt them down one day...

[NickSCFC]

Apart from the one in PC World, the rest are in bars...



tough luck hey :lol:

[shaudeus]

good ideas always take awhile to develop it will come

[Matt]

This could be of some use...

Wi-Fi Map (http://www.zdnet.co.uk/specials/wifimap/)

Displays where public Wi-Fi access points are in the UK, there's only six in my city (Stoke-on-Trent), but look at London!

Cool, there's 3 in Canterbury, I was expecting there to be none at all.

[Makaveli_786]

Man there are hundreds in Manchester, they were talking about it on NorthWest news:

Two things Manchester are famous for, we have more eating places than anywhere else on the planet and were one of the highest amongst the internet cafe population, its hard to go many places without walking into a cafe with a wifi router which means great for us Manchester people.

LOL I cant wait to go to a cafe with my lady and pull out the PSP while shes freshening up and play a fresh round of GT with some dude half way across the world :D

[Matt]

Hah, are you sure that your lady friend will agree with you staring at a little screen all day? :)

[g_unit2004]

Well maybe the PSP will support USB modems and be able to connect to the internet using that besides wireless. But that would take the "Portable" out of Playstation.

[KlawHammer]

Exactly.

G G G G G-UNIT!!!

[Ibanez32]

Maybe it will come with 700m of extention cable then your portable again.

[DappaDizzle]

do guys no how the sony vaio can connect to internet via wireless lan do think the psp can get online that way to

[ultimategamer2004]

yes the psp will but with a laptop you have to have a connection card in the back it is a very good idea whoever thought of it..

[Matt]

These kind of things:

Link (http://www.dabs.com/uk/channels/hardware/networking/productView.htm?quicklinx=2D13)

[Makaveli_786]

Hah, are you sure that your lady friend will agree with you staring at a little screen all day? :)

LOL damn I wish the PSP was out now, Ive got so much times on my hand, shes not here and my operation means I cant go out so I can play games ALLLL day.

[richjwild]

how close to one of these wifi points do you have to be ?

[Matt]

Not really sure actually. I would guess that you'd have to be in the actual shop it's supported.

[DGKAMD]

if NDS is gonna have wireless capabilities u kno sony will be working thier a$$ off to get a just as good if not better wireless capabilities

[gamingmonkey2004]

i forgot how many square feet it is but i wanna say about 30 sq ft. at least thats what i think it is let me cheak my router

[Ress Cor]

LOL damn I wish the PSP was out now, Ive got so much times on my hand, shes not here and my operation means I cant go out so I can play games ALLLL day.


When you're sick having a PSP would be awsome, I have not thought of that! Thank you! Now I might actually buy one (not that I get sick a lot), but lying around in bed on your back and just playing GT and kickng PSP insider staff off the tracks online would a little too cool.

[gamingmonkey2004]

America and Canada cannot play with Europe they are in a different online server...at least thats what its like on the online games i played..the only game ive seen that the whole world is together is FFXI

[g_unit2004]

America and Canada cannot play with Europe they are in a different online server...at least thats what its like on the online games i played..the only game ive seen that the whole world is together is FFXI
It doesn't really matter, if your from Canada you can still play in the Europe and US servers. But if you play in your own servers it will be alot faster.

[gamingmonkey2004]

on SOCOM II i can only get in North American servers unless you have a cheat to get on Europe servers please tell me. but its the same with other games i have played

[slayerx]

the European Beta testers have tested a Fully functional Server capable of playing in any coutry but it was very laggy they have yet to fix it as there tryin to fix the EU servers first before they look at that possibility

[gamingmonkey2004]

hense. how i cannot play in a european server and neither can the canadian

[richjwild]

can anyone explain how wifi works, and where you have to be to use it

thanks

[gamingmonkey2004]

its just wireless internet and you have to be within range of the router or w/e.

[aaronaja]

Hold on. If the PSP will be able to connect to your computer via the USB and your computer would have internet access... it may be possible for the PSP to go online via the PC.

[gamingmonkey2004]

sure i guess...maybe....but what would be the point? you want to be mobile so you have WiFi internet access

[aaronaja]

I have also heard of some research done using the gps satellites to communicate with other devices and I think that it may be possible in about two to three years to walk practically anywhere and be online via satellite. There are numerous possibilities with satellite technology just look at xm and television it will eventually come down to satellite internet.

[Majes]

But, if u wanna be online via satellite, I think it will be VERY expensive...Maybe we all have to pay a monthly quote for using the online function...

[richjwild]

i hope its free, or a small yearly fee like xbox live

[gamingmonkey2004]

my friend has satalite internet. and he as a 6 second lag. 3 seconds to the satalite then 3 seconds back or something like that...and he has the best one out there

[richjwild]

thats rubbish then

[gamingmonkey2004]

it takes a while to go to the satalite and back its not light speed

[richjwild]

ye not very gud imo

[gamingmonkey2004]

ye not very gud imo


imo.....?

[richjwild]

in my opinion

[gamingmonkey2004]

im not very good?

[Loc]

it takes a while to go to the satalite and back its not light speed

Actually it is light speed, as it is beaming light. What'd you think it sent up there? McDonalds?

[gamingmonkey2004]

there is a 3 to 6 second lag GET OVER IT! i dont know how to explain it

[Loc]

What are the similarities between XM radio and Sattelite tv? Yes, they both use sattelites but one thing is key, they both only receive and cannot transmit. To transmit you need a gigantic sattelite dish.

[aaronaja]

It is not comparing the existing technology but developing new technology the fact is that you don't have to send and recieve information from your sattelite to your device but instead would work like existing internet functions.
The internet would use signal relay points on the ground just like what is used for cellphones but to make it faster and more efficient you send the signals to sattelites and from there the signals are relayed to the signal relay points and to your device but dont expect this technology to come so easily.
In order for this to work the recievers would need to be stronger to pick up signals.
Oh I just remembered about an already existing technology...
Sattelite Phones.
I am not to familiar with how that works but it would be another means of anytime anywhere internet.

[gamingmonkey2004]

im impressed about how many new members there are now amazing...

topic: yea big sattalite dishes...good bye lawn. stays in one spot and you have this form of the stand in your grass. but yea anyway...how did we get on the subject of satalites? can we get back to something that is possible for the PSP now?

[Ibanez32]

So will the psp have a USB satalite? :lol:

[gamingmonkey2004]

So will the psp have a USB satalite? :lol:


ummm...no

[ultimategamer2004]

I pretty stupid question to ask really it would cost to much to send a satalite up when they could spend it on somthing mor useful. :roll:

[Matt]

OK, can we try and get back to some sort of sensible conversation about this please.....

[KlawHammer]

Yea i was getting kinda lost there with the monkey going "ape-sh*t" (no pun intended) over the satellite thing...

[gamingmonkey2004]

i never surrender! they are disagreing with me about my own freaking life. its like "No you did not poke your leg 3 seconds ago!" how would they know unless they are me!? i was saying my friend has sattalite and its expensive and it has a 6 second lag

[KlawHammer]

Ok, calm down gamingmonkey...

[kevindenoyette]

it takes a while to go to the satalite and back its not light speed

Actually it is light speed, as it is beaming light. What'd you think it sent up there? McDonalds?


funny, i always thought it was some sort of radio-waves. you know like they use in radar, GPS. so there is a six second lag.

[Loc]

it takes a while to go to the satalite and back its not light speed

Actually it is light speed, as it is beaming light. What'd you think it sent up there? McDonalds?


funny, i always thought it was some sort of radio-waves. you know like they use in radar, GPS. so there is a six second lag.
Radio waves are lightspeed..the delay is the system going through the information, then the information has to be routed from other sattelites.

[Matt]

Seriously guys, can we stop arguing about how much lag a satallite has, nobody particularly cares.

[kevindenoyette]

it takes a while to go to the satalite and back its not light speed

Actually it is light speed, as it is beaming light. What'd you think it sent up there? McDonalds?


funny, i always thought it was some sort of radio-waves. you know like they use in radar, GPS. so there is a six second lag.
Radio waves are lightspeed..the delay is the system going through the information, then the information has to be routed from other sattelites.


radio waves can't attain lightspeed when you shoot em from the earth to a satellite, it's only theoretically possible in a perfect vacuum. the radio waves experience hindrance in our atmosphere, which adds up to the delay.

[Loc]

it takes a while to go to the satalite and back its not light speed

Actually it is light speed, as it is beaming light. What'd you think it sent up there? McDonalds?


funny, i always thought it was some sort of radio-waves. you know like they use in radar, GPS. so there is a six second lag.
Radio waves are lightspeed..the delay is the system going through the information, then the information has to be routed from other sattelites.


radio waves can't attain lightspeed when you shoot em from the earth to a satellite, it's only theoretically possible in a perfect vacuum. the radio waves experience hindrance in our atmosphere, which adds up to the delay.
Light cannot slow down. It remains at the same constant speed. So you're telling me that light bounces around our atmosphere for 6 seconds?

[Matt]

And still you carry on.....

[Loc]

Does the wireless play include that you can play multiplayer with someone 15 feet away?

[gamingmonkey2004]

And still you carry on.....

doesnt seem like you get to much repect matt...its a shame people are like that :lol: sattalite....PSP...

[kevindenoyette]

if light can't slow down, tell me why the light speed in a vacuum differers from the light speed in a non-vacuum or in water?

[kevindenoyette]

anyways i feel i should contribute something a bit more useful to this thread so..

the psp has wireless lan and wi-fi capabilities, you will be able to play with another friend from 100 ft or so distance, with wi-fi. as for LAN i don't know, you can also play online with your friends, but a number of maximum players isn't allowed yet.

[ultimategamer2004]

i am interested in the wi-fi and i think it will be very good.. I just hope all my mates get a PSP. :oops:

[gamingmonkey2004]

well it really depends on hte price for most people so one would never know...not to mention not to many people even know about hte psp yet

[alternate_ending]

if light can't slow down, tell me why the light speed in a vacuum differers from the light speed in a non-vacuum or in water?

it doesn't. The light simply hits molecules along the way, which means it takes a bit longer to get where it's going. But it is always travelling at the speed of light, just in different directons sometimes.

[games_ fan]

Whats light got to do with the psp online? :roll:

[kevindenoyette]

if light can't slow down, tell me why the light speed in a vacuum differers from the light speed in a non-vacuum or in water?

it doesn't. The light simply hits molecules along the way, which means it takes a bit longer to get where it's going. But it is always travelling at the speed of light, just in different directons sometimes.


trust me, it differs. and differs a lot.

from "what-is-the-speed-of-light.com"

"The speed of light depends on the material that the light moves through - for example: light moves slower in water, glass and through the atmosphere than in a vacuum. The ratio whereby light is slowed down is called the refractive index of that medium. "


refractive index of a vacuum 1.0
refractive index of air 1.0003
refractive index of ice 1.31
refractive index of a water 1.33
refractive index of glass 1.5

the list goes on, the biggest number is 3.5 i think.
anyways, this discussion is uber-foolish and i'm a jerk for keeping this going, but the speed of light differs in different media.

[aaronaja]

I know I am the one who introduced the subject about sattelites but I was talking about in the furute 5-10 years in the future.
I want everyone to drop the subject of sattelites. It is a future technology and I was just pondering about the future.
You people should just focus on the here and now and not worry about the sattelites.
Forget about the Sattelites
Forget about the Sattelites
Forget about the Sattelites
Forget about the Sattelites
Forget about the Sattelites

[kevindenoyette]

can we still discuss satellites though?

[ultimategamer2004]

AHEM,

no satelites get back to topic..
psp will be good online lets hope it goes big for sony and i have a fealing it will be better than ps2 online and bigger. :lol:

[alternate_ending]

But won't internet only be available in a hot-spot? I don't really want to only be able to play online at home...

Unless they fully incorporate GPRS via the mobile phone addon.. But i don't think this would provide a fast enough connection for arcade style online games.

[Takato]

Only at home! OMG, thats a CRIME! :lol:

You can get Satellite Internet Connection, but I don't know anything about it.

[richjwild]

dont start on sattelites, and these hot spots are in places like internet cafes too, and some people say they will be on buses ect in afew years time.

[ultimategamer2004]

yes there is a website that tells u where they are i think the are 8 in Stoke and london i think 60 or somthing forgot what the website is though. and they will be on buses trains near enough everywhere u can think of in the next 5 years.

[games_ fan]

Even in nuclear missiles :shock:

[ultimategamer2004]

dont be stupid :lol:

everywhere that people can go in the public i would say so we could go out and within 10 mins of being out find one and play psp. thing is when on the bus u have to get off at some point not good when you are playing against that bloke in China eh :lol:

[games_ fan]

No it wouldnt so they might not put them on buses.

[Loc]

They put hotspots on ferries overhere in washington. I think they supposed to put hotspots in New York subways next.

[ultimategamer2004]

Yes i imagine the UK will be one of thew last places they will put a load of them... Damm. :roll:

[alternate_ending]

No it wouldnt so they might not put them on buses.

Its not like hot-spots are only used by the psp...
So they will still put them on buses, but you might not play it on buses.

[games_ fan]

Oh yeah :oops: forgot that their used for other things

[Matt]

Hot-spots on a bus over here? They wouldn't last five seconds! :)

[alternate_ending]

Well, with Australia being the asshole of the gaming and technology world, i don't expect to be getting a psp untill mid 2005, and hot-spots on public transport is out-of-the-question. My college has one set up though :D

[Matt]

We've got two where I live, and one of them is in PC World. Argh! :x

[richjwild]

while youre there you could look at there fantastic range of high quality and reasonably priced electronic goods

[Matt]

while youre there you could look at there fantastic range of high quality and reasonably priced electronic goods

Haha, nice one. :lol:

[ultimategamer2004]

Hot-spots on a bus over here? They wouldn't last five seconds! :)

i supose so :lol:

pretty stupid are some people .. :evil:

[games_ fan]

pretty stupid are some people .. :evil:
and very drunk :lol:

[Webmaster]

Yeah its suppose to be wireless internet and you can look at the PSP specs at www.pspinsider.com.. Hey does anybody know when the PSP is coming out??? If you do or there are rumors that sufficent prove of that being the date that its coming out let me know... Thanks a ton for your help from Webmaster... :)

[sworder]

Probably at March in US and Europe and in November in Japan. Who knows??? Probably earlier. 8)

That info is in IGN (www.ign.com) and Gamespot (www.gamespot.com)

[richjwild]

so probably both dates? how do you work that one out?

[sworder]

so probably both dates? how do you work that one out?

What do you mean by that?

I meant that it's being released first in Japan instead of the worldwide release that they announced.

[NickSCFC]

Development set to get underway on integrated PlayStation network system

A new job posting on Sony Computer Entertainment's Synthesis careers site indicates that the company has started recruiting a team to build a common network platform for its PlayStation home consoles and the PSP handheld.

The post advertises positions for network engineers and system planners with experience of large-scale projects in both the business to business and business to consumer space, and specifically mentions load distribution skills as being key for planners.

The new network will serve both the PlayStation 2, the PSP handheld and other Sony devices - presumably including the PlayStation 3 - but details of the services it will provide are thin on the ground.

However, it seems likely that the network will be designed to deliver content such as music and movies as well as providing strictly game-related services, as Sony has expressed a strong interest in providing this kind of digital content through its PlayStation platforms.

It also represents the first information in some time to emerge about the company's plans for networking on the PSP, which possesses 802.11b wireless networking abilities which could allow it to connect to other consoles, PCs, or wireless Internet hot spots.

Earlier this year, it emerged that Sony has floated plans to create a unified PSP network access service by unifying providers of Wireless hot spots, allowing PSP owners to pay a single subscription fee to access in any Wireless-equipped location.

However, no further information on this approach has yet emerged, and it's not clear whether Sony is still pursuing it - or even if the initiative will be limited to the Japanese market alone.

[ultimategamer2004]

Nice 1,

It sounds good to me so lets hope it happens 8)

[richjwild]

Probably at March in US and Europe and in November in Japan. Who knows??? Probably earlier. 8)


u said probably march blah blah and probably earlier

[CrumCon]

Development set to get underway on integrated PlayStation network system

A new job posting on Sony Computer Entertainment's Synthesis careers site indicates that the company has started recruiting a team to build a common network platform for its PlayStation home consoles and the PSP handheld.

The post advertises positions for network engineers and system planners with experience of large-scale projects in both the business to business and business to consumer space, and specifically mentions load distribution skills as being key for planners.

The new network will serve both the PlayStation 2, the PSP handheld and other Sony devices - presumably including the PlayStation 3 - but details of the services it will provide are thin on the ground.

However, it seems likely that the network will be designed to deliver content such as music and movies as well as providing strictly game-related services, as Sony has expressed a strong interest in providing this kind of digital content through its PlayStation platforms.

It also represents the first information in some time to emerge about the company's plans for networking on the PSP, which possesses 802.11b wireless networking abilities which could allow it to connect to other consoles, PCs, or wireless Internet hot spots.

Earlier this year, it emerged that Sony has floated plans to create a unified PSP network access service by unifying providers of Wireless hot spots, allowing PSP owners to pay a single subscription fee to access in any Wireless-equipped location.

However, no further information on this approach has yet emerged, and it's not clear whether Sony is still pursuing it - or even if the initiative will be limited to the Japanese market alone.

LOVE it.. thank you Sony!

And all Nintendo fanboys on gamefaqs.com praising DS and believes DS ill go online just like PS2 and Xbox.. LOLLL.. not a single word from Nintendo. those fanboys though, its so easy to get DS online just by using wireless router stupid stupid fanboys lol

[Sharingan_Ex]

Development set to get underway on integrated PlayStation network system

A new job posting on Sony Computer Entertainment's Synthesis careers site indicates that the company has started recruiting a team to build a common network platform for its PlayStation home consoles and the PSP handheld.

The post advertises positions for network engineers and system planners with experience of large-scale projects in both the business to business and business to consumer space, and specifically mentions load distribution skills as being key for planners.

The new network will serve both the PlayStation 2, the PSP handheld and other Sony devices - presumably including the PlayStation 3 - but details of the services it will provide are thin on the ground.

However, it seems likely that the network will be designed to deliver content such as music and movies as well as providing strictly game-related services, as Sony has expressed a strong interest in providing this kind of digital content through its PlayStation platforms.

It also represents the first information in some time to emerge about the company's plans for networking on the PSP, which possesses 802.11b wireless networking abilities which could allow it to connect to other consoles, PCs, or wireless Internet hot spots.

Earlier this year, it emerged that Sony has floated plans to create a unified PSP network access service by unifying providers of Wireless hot spots, allowing PSP owners to pay a single subscription fee to access in any Wireless-equipped location.

However, no further information on this approach has yet emerged, and it's not clear whether Sony is still pursuing it - or even if the initiative will be limited to the Japanese market alone.

LOVE it.. thank you Sony!

And all Nintendo fanboys on gamefaqs.com praising DS and believes DS ill go online just like PS2 and Xbox.. LOLLL.. not a single word from Nintendo. those fanboys though, its so easy to get DS online just by using wireless router stupid stupid fanboys lol

:lol: Just calm down dude.
Let them get hyped too much, and get broke later when they buy more than 1 ds system. :oops:

[ultimategamer2004]

Good point although if it happens it will be GoooooD..

[Chronocento]

.. not a single word from Nintendo

In a recent interview with IGN, Perrin Kaplan, VP Market and Corporate Affairs of Nintendo of America, said that Nintendo has no interest in internet games or stuctures, because they dislike to impose users to pay monthly fees.

So, no internet play for DS until somebody comes up with a project like Warp Pipe (http://www.warppipe.com/) for GameCube :?

http://chronocento.altervista.org/blogger/ds_warpipe.jpg

(A modified image of Nintendo DS screen took from my blog :lol: )

[Sharingan_Ex]

.. not a single word from Nintendo

In a recent interview with IGN, Perrin Kaplan, VP Market and Corporate Affairs of Nintendo of America, said that Nintendo has no interest in internet games or stuctures, because they dislike to impose users to pay monthly fees.

So, no internet play for DS until somebody comes up with a project like Warp Pipe (http://www.warppipe.com/) for GameCube :?

http://chronocento.altervista.org/blogger/ds_warpipe.jpg

(A modified image of Nintendo DS screen took from my blog :lol: )

so what will be the use of its wifi capabilities if it'll just be stuck in the single player game?

Just a thought, why would nintendo build a wireless adaptor for its gameboy if its range will just be limited to a few meters?

[ultimategamer2004]

WI-FI in a multiplayer game is good and has a range of around 100ft. :lol:

[Sharingan_Ex]

WI-FI in a multiplayer game is good and has a range of around 100ft. :lol:

that is if you are on an open field, but when you are inside a building or a room, it reduces the range dramatically.

[ultimategamer2004]

OH i dident know that!!! i hope it is still at least 50ft though i imagine it would be.

[NickSCFC]

well if you have WiFi connected to broadband in your home (personal hotspot), it shouldn't be more than 20ft away from where you'll use your PSP. With public transport and public buildings (public hotspot) which offer Wi-Fi connection, there shouldn't be a problem at all.

The only problem is a 100 mile jeorney is a car, God knows how we'll do that.

[Sharingan_Ex]

At least now you know :D

Do you have a gameboy too?

Me, I do have one, but I don't play it anymore because I can't find any interesting games. do you have any suggestions?

[NickSCFC]

Metal Slug Advance

[ultimategamer2004]

But the range is what with a public connection???

it isnt 100ft cus if your ojn a bus or somthing you would travell that in no time and it would just cut you off :cry:

[Sharingan_Ex]

well if you have WiFi connected to broadband in your home (personal hotspot), it shouldn't be more than 20ft away from where you'll use your PSP. With public transport and public buildings (public hotspot) which offer Wi-Fi connection, there shouldn't be a problem at all.

The only problem is a 100 mile jeorney is a car, God knows how we'll do that.

put a big wireless receiver onto your car, like those long antennas for receiving radio signals.

It'll rock :!:

I just hope they really exist. :D

[NickSCFC]

Some buses have their own Wi-Fi built in, only in London though I bet :wink:

[ultimategamer2004]

Yes i should imagine it'll be a good 20years before they hit Stoke :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :cry:

[Sharingan_Ex]

But the range is what with a public connection???

it isnt 100ft cus if your ojn a bus or somthing you would travell that in no time and it would just cut you off :cry:

true, especially if the driver drives recklessly. :D

but I think the connection will be ok as long as the vehicle will have a wireless system. I heard some cruise ships are already implementing wifi into their system, so people can still be online even if they are in the North Pole. :D

[ultimategamer2004]

Right Stoke-On-Trent is a place in the UK thats doesent actually stack up that well and me and Nick live there.. Stoke gets stuff very late if at all its the council. :cry:

[Sharingan_Ex]

sorry to hear that, but can't you guys just order the things online? so you can get the console faster? or is the shipping expensive?

[ultimategamer2004]

Yes we can but its not like we can get buses to come to Stoke with wi-fi on them... It isnt like stoke is a deserted place or anything its not to bad with gaming actually but just general everyday stuff.

[Sharingan_Ex]

I see, if almost every house in stroke will have wifi, then I think you'll be alright, especially if your campus has one, then you'll have nothing to worry about, I guess.

[ultimategamer2004]

Yes but thats a scinario that will never happen every house in Stoke will not have wi-fi :cry:

[NickSCFC]

You can get a Wi-Fi receiver (adapter) and plug it into a broadband PC.

I think PS3 has this built in for when you connect to broadband.

[ultimategamer2004]

Good i hope that the PS3 does have it. :lol: Now i've got broadband but no contract to use it for gaming :cry:

[NickSCFC]

Wireless network adapter for PC, connects to USB port. 250m range.

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/images/953270_01_huge.jpg

Alot of people use these so that they can access the internet on their laptop through a PC. They're £30, buy one when you get a PSP and connect it to a broadband PC.

[ultimategamer2004]

Oh yeah i've seen them before they only work to about 100ft dont they cus i know you can use them in the garden.

[NickSCFC]

250 metres. If your PC is in your bedroom, put this by your window and play your PSP in the garden :mrgreen:

[ultimategamer2004]

WHOA, 250M thats not bad at all i'll have to get 1 i could go right over to the marsh.

[Sharingan_Ex]

yeah, 250m is not bad, but you have to be in your house everytime you play online though.

are there any hot spots there in Stoke ?

by the way, have you guys heard that PSP will be released on March 31. Almost 10 months from now. :x

[CrumCon]

did you know that there are plenty of wireless router which could be found for $50-65 :)

Not fast enough though..

[Sharingan_Ex]

did you know that there are plenty of wireless router which could be found for $50-65 :)

Not fast enough though..

yup! but sometimes, even if the router is fast enought, but your system can't take advantage of that speed, it is still useless.

[ultimategamer2004]

I doubt there are any in Stoke but i recall Nick saying there are 8 that he had seen on a website which tells you where they are i think there are somthing like 90 in London!

[NickSCFC]

They have them in some of the bars up Hanley, the posh ones anyway :P

There's one that covers Festival Park too.

[ultimategamer2004]

Whares the on in Festival Park?

[NickSCFC]

PC World, but I think the range covers the whole area.

[games_ fan]

Never knew their was one in their. But I never knew their was any in stoke.

[ultimategamer2004]

Oh right.. I would of thought PC world would have one.

Remember the boy racers on a sunday night Nick?

Anyways we are way off topic.

[NickSCFC]

Wi-Fi Map (http://www.zdnet.co.uk/specials/wifimap/)

Here's the list of Wi-Fi area's in Stoke/Staffordshire:

PC World (Etruria)
Jarvis Clayton Lodge Hotel (Clayton)
Welcome Break (Keele)
Bar 360 (Hanley)
Roebuck Hotel (Hanley)
Hillberry Pub (Berryhill)
Greenstar Pub (Hanley)

[ultimategamer2004]

Ah yes i think that welcome break is the motorway service station at Keele isnt it if you are quick you can get in the back way!

[NickSCFC]

My mate used to work there, I'll ask him about the Wi-Fi :P

This time next year nearly every bar in Hanley will have Wi-Fi, I have no idea why the Potteries Shopping Centre doesn't have it yet, unless they just didn't register with the site.

Maybe those bug screens will have information on it :D

[ultimategamer2004]

I think almost everywhere in Stoke in the next 3 years.

[NickSCFC]

One thing is, there's about 6 different ISPs, the most common is BT. We'll be fine as long as Sony can get this universal ISP set up. If we can get this, then we can connect our PSPs to any Wi-Fi ISP.

[ultimategamer2004]

You know when we do conect that means we can play with somone a certain distance away.

[NickSCFC]

I think it just connects to the internet, so basically you can play anyone in the world.

When Sony talk about distance range, they're talking about connecting to the hotspot.

[ultimategamer2004]

So we have to be a certain distance from the hotspot i think it is 100FT.

[NickSCFC]

Yes, but when you're connected to the hotspot, the hotspot connects you to the internet, the whole world.

[ultimategamer2004]

Oh good so basiclly i could connect in PC world take a bus from there to Newcastle whilst playing a game with a japanese bloke i dont know..

[NickSCFC]

You'll need to be on a bus with Wi-Fi I'm afraid. Once you move out of the 100ft range from PC World you'll disconnect.

[ultimategamer2004]

So when i am playing a game with the japanese bloke i need to stay close to the hot spot?

[NickSCFC]

When you're playing anyone on Wi-Fi, you'll need to be within 100ft of the hotspot you're connected to. It doesn't matter if the other person is in Tokyo or Fenton :D

[ultimategamer2004]

Ok... Thats sounds ok so you cant move more than 100ft from the hot spot and neither can the bloke in fenton?

[NickSCFC]

Move further than 100ft and you'll get disconnected. If you're in a car, bus or train with Wi-Fi, you can simply stay connected while on the move.

I think the hotspots on public transport use satellite.

[ultimategamer2004]

But then if you get off the train you buggered?

[NickSCFC]

Game Over :D

[unreal]

So what do you think the online network will consist of? The E-Business sounds like there will be some sort of downloadable content you pay for - maybe demos of games, or even full games themselves?

[NickSCFC]

Online gaming, music and video. Have a look at this site to get the basic idea.

www.sonyconnect.com

[ultimategamer2004]

The conection to hot spots will be free though won it?

[brownbeaner2]

i doubt it, there might be a monthy fee to play everywhere.
but it wont be the only to play multiplayer games.

[ultimategamer2004]

Well if there is a fee i hope it aint much beside i know it aint the only way i just think it is good to have somone to play all the time. :wink:

[richjwild]

couldnt the wi fi on the bus/train/aeroplane be covered by the ticket price?

[ultimategamer2004]

Good idea but there will be ppl who wont be using it and wont want to pay the extra plus they couldent check weather ppl who aint paid are using it!

[richjwild]

well i meant that ur payin anyway so just have it covered by that - no extra cost.

maybe if you wanted it u could pay a bit extra depending on how far you are going, and you get a login code on ur ticket. then you turn on ur psp, put in the login code and play away

[games_ fan]

Not a bad idea I wouldn't mind paying a bit more for that.

[ultimategamer2004]

well i wouldent but i dont know weather it would work!

[richjwild]

what the login code or wi fi? for the login code ud just be logging into the buses network.

[ultimategamer2004]

No just generally work on an everyday basis.

[Sharingan_Ex]

the idea is not bad, but you should also consider if it'll be a long trip or just a short one.

by the way, what do you guys think about PSP and DS competing on the same month? Ebgames.com released another release date for DS and it now says 3/1/05. Do you guys think it'll try to compete head to head with PSP?

[richjwild]

yeah, no matter what ninty say, the DS is in direct competition with the PSP

[ultimategamer2004]

I dont know i dont think so but who knows i dont think the DS will be out in Jan at all. :cry:

[NeoGoldenBoy]

Wireless network adapter for PC, connects to USB port. 250m range.

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/images/953270_01_huge.jpg

Alot of people use these so that they can access the internet on their laptop through a PC. They're £30, buy one when you get a PSP and connect it to a broadband PC.

How does it work?
The computer needs to be turned on and have Broadband connection (using cable)?

Also...It will use the speed of the broadband, it will divide it between the PC and the other device, or will both have the same speed?

[ultimategamer2004]

Basically you could e.g. have a laptop in the garden and have you PC with the conection set up in the house you can go upto 250M away from your PC and it will keep working... And it uses the full speed of ytour broadband conection i believe. :lol:

[games_ fan]

the idea is not bad, but you should also consider if it'll be a long trip or just a short one.

by the way, what do you guys think about PSP and DS competing on the same month? Ebgames.com released another release date for DS and it now says 3/1/05. Do you guys think it'll try to compete head to head with PSP?

They are in direct competition in some ways but not others. I think release date will be about the same time as the psp.

[ultimategamer2004]

Well do you think they might get it out before for a little sales boost i think they might.

[games_ fan]

So do I but this is nintendo you never know what they could do.

[ultimategamer2004]

I think the majority of sales for nintendo are at the release and now they have some competition they will get it out quick to get more sales!

[games_ fan]

They will both sell well but releasing it earlier could give it the extra boost and make it sell a bit more.

[KlawHammer]

Nintendo will obviluosly sell a lot more thanks to GameBoys (no pun intended), loyal fans will bring in the dosh for nintendo and unless the PSP has something really special, the DS will definately take charge.

[games_ fan]

Nintendo might have the game boy to help boost sales but when casual gamers think of games and sony they think think playstation and anything related with that is good so the sales will probably be very close.

[ultimategamer2004]

Yes all the sony fans buying the PSP and some of the old nintendo fans coming to sony but the fan boys still there the sales are lily to be larger on sonys part.

[NickSCFC]

So do I but this is nintendo you never know what they could do.
What on Earth does this topic have to do with Nintendo anyway?

[games_ fan]

Oh yeah we should get back to psp online :oops:

[ultimategamer2004]

Well Klawhammer started it :oops:

But it aint his fault..

Games_Fan is a nintendo fanboy! :lol:

[NickSCFC]

I'm a Nintendo fanboy, I just happen to be a PlayStation fanboy too.

[ultimategamer2004]

I have nothing against them but i probably would be if i had a GC :oops:

Somthig i have though about getting several times.

[KlawHammer]

You should get one - GCs are awesome.

[ultimategamer2004]

Yes i might but i need money for psp!

but seen as the price is extremly low it is likly i will..

[games_ fan]

Try to get one it's got some brilliant games. Should get back on topic now.

[ultimategamer2004]

Yes it will but lets get back on topic..

-----------2 mins later-----------

But havent we saud all we can about the psp online? :roll:

[games_ fan]

Maybe this should be locked until we get more info.

[ultimategamer2004]

Well maybe but i dont think there is much more we can know we know loads of nfo on it if not all we can!

[richjwild]

all the psp discussion seem to be drying up. with no information available, theres nothing much to talk about :cry:

[aaronaja]

I have just heard of a potential massive wireless broadband system.
Here is the Link... http://wifinetnews.com/archives/003971.html
I think that we could see alot of potential for the PSP for anywhere wireless online gameplay.

[Chronocento]

I read about it too!

Official Sanswire Networks website (http://www.sanswire.com/intro.htm)

http://www.sanswire.com/images/strat.jpg

[aaronaja]

Sounds like we will soon be able to go anywhere and be connected.

[ultimategamer2004]

Only if there are enough wi-fi points!! :P

In 5 years we will have loads even in Stoke!

[richjwild]

maybe we could have small wi fi points on us, in our pockets or something, creating a huge network

[Matt]

maybe we could have small wi fi points on us, in our pockets or something, creating a huge network

Hmm, interesting idea. A battery powered Wi-Fi point.

[ultimategamer2004]

Huh yeah,

You can get wi-fi for your pc cant you?

[Matt]

You sure can, here's some WiFi access points:

Link (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Wireless_Access_Points.html)

maybe we could have small wi fi points on us, in our pockets or something, creating a huge network

Take a look at the top item on the page I just listed. :)

[richjwild]

if i was born 5 years older id be a millionaire!

oh well, back to the giant OLED cinema screen... :cry:

[ultimategamer2004]

Having wi-fi point on your PC would be cool i might think about doing that at some time..