View Full Version : PS3 Price/Cost Discussion Thread
GodZeRo
01-04-2004, 06:24 PM
Due to the large number of questions we recieve about how much the PS3 will cost, I have created this thread for these questions and discussions.
PS: The answer is about $300USA to $400USA, but that is my guess right now, I will update this number when more concrete info comes in....
All other future threads on this topic will be deleted.
NickSCFC
01-04-2004, 09:10 PM
I'd go with £300 at launch the same as the last two consoles. It doesn't matter if Sony sell them at a loss. Sony and Microsoft have lost millions selling their latest consoles so expect alot of cheaply produced games at the launch of their next consoles.
There's also a possibility that a PSX style system that plays PlayStation 3 games will be launched shortly afterwards, but we're looking at £600+ for that.
ainsley
01-05-2004, 02:28 AM
Id go for £349.99 and its gonna be the most expensive console when it launches AFTER nintendos and microsofts console.
Hatchman
01-05-2004, 06:23 PM
It seems to me that the magic price point is $300. PSX was this price at launch, PS2 was also this price at launch. But, then again, we wont have a good estimation of price until we know exactly what features will be implemented into the PS3. For example, will it use blu-ray? Blu-ray's kind of expensive now is it? Will CELL handle ALL operations, like graphical and others, or will there be special components such as a graphics card and such? But, I am sure that Sony will be willing to lose a good amount of money on each console, but with all the expected features, don't you think that $300 will be kind of pushing it?
ainsley
01-05-2004, 06:56 PM
From the locked post:
Console player wrote:
true, but it would be a waste to use ps3 on 640x480 resolution tv sets of today.. imo. Nothing less than an hdtv or plasma tv will do for ps3. lol
So the max resolution for a TV is 640*480?. I wondered why that was the max resolution i could get when i connected my radeon to my TV. Thank god i bought a £400 20ms lcd monitor. Looks like ill be playin my ps3 at my desktop in years to come. wot resolution does the ps2 run @? i know the xbox runs @ 640x480, do all current generation consoles run at that rez? Wot about 100hz telys? does 100hz make difference to the resolution?
Also about the ps3, i think they should have an expansion bay which u could use for a digital reciever and bang its a PSX thats also a ps3 (remember the ps3 will already have a hdd...i hope). Fuck the psx, the ps3 should have an expansion bay (like the ps2) but used for a digital reciever if anyone wants tivo capabilities on thier ps3. Id buy that for a dollar!
Swordmaster Jehuty
01-06-2004, 09:54 AM
Off course they will lose money on the consoles, but they still get a lot of profit from all the legal sold games. And since Sony's Playstation (1 and 2) has a huge fanbase they will still have some profit.
Ibanez32
01-06-2004, 10:04 AM
At the end of the day they want to sell consoles and stay in buisiness. They put the price to high they won't get enough sales and it'll be down hill from there. Put the price too low and they'll loose too much money. Its just finding the balence in 2006 i don't think £300 seems to unreasonably low but 350 seems fair.
In answer to ace's question yes it does make a difference my 100hz tv has a max res of 1024x768
gaming ultima
01-06-2004, 10:12 AM
the refresh rate (hz) has nothing direcly to do with the res
its just that these features tend to go hand in hand as any 100hz tv u get wont be incredably cheap and it wont be very old and the bigger newer weidescreen tv's are starting to hav higher res like 1024x768
Ibanez32
01-06-2004, 10:42 AM
well thats what i mean i was saying the refresh rate was why it was higher its just that if you have got a tv that does have hight refresh rate its likely it will make a difference. but after reading my post it does make that clear. soz
Omega Blue
01-06-2004, 06:27 PM
Console player wrote:
true, but it would be a waste to use ps3 on 640x480 resolution tv sets of today.. imo. Nothing less than an hdtv or plasma tv will do for ps3. lol
they will support 640x480 if they want to make more profit, are you some rich stuck up slob who can afford the lastest and greatest everytime it comes out? cause im 16 and in 2 years 18 and probly going to college i know sure as hell that i wont you moron. :roll:
Danji Ikari
01-07-2004, 03:23 AM
cause im 16 and in 2 years 18 and probly going to college i know sure as hell that i wont you moron. Holy crap! I thought most people here were older than me. Yea, i'm 16 too. ...anyways, back to the topic.
I think the price point will have to stay under $400. Any higher than that or even that price might be too high for the mass market to purchase it. Though I would pay up to $500 for it..
Omega Blue
01-07-2004, 10:07 AM
cause im 16 and in 2 years 18 and probly going to college i know sure as hell that i wont you moron. Holy crap! I thought most people here were older than me. Yea, i'm 16 too. ...anyways, back to the topic.
I think the price point will have to stay under $400. Any higher than that or even that price might be too high for the mass market to purchase it. Though I would pay up to $500 for it..
glad im not alone :D
but yeah i truly do not think it will go above 400 dollars and to tell the truth i wouldn't pay anymore then that, for me thats just to much and i dislike asking people for money.
If they can make something like the PSX so expensive, then I'm sure they would have no problem in raising the price of the PS3.
Omega Blue
01-07-2004, 09:32 PM
well if they do im congratulate Sony on not getting much sales.
Marjoh
01-08-2004, 04:30 PM
I'm pretty sure the PS3 won't be an all-in-one system (like the PSX) like Sony said it would be right out of the box. I also believe that it won't go higher than $400, maybe $299.99 like most new consoles.
And to quote Omega Blue, I agree, not everyone can afford the latest and greatest. And the mass market doesn't seem to mind [playing on a regular tube TV), which is what Sony (and it's competition) are aiming for. Although I'm pretty sure I'll have a better gaming set before PS3 (and other next-next-gen consoles) comes out. Anyone seen the new 70-inch plasma TV Sony showed on CES 2004? That would look good next to my brand-new PS3, ya? And no, I can't afford it unless I sell my soul, which I wouldn't do. So I guess that would be nothing but a fantasy, until I finish college that is...I hope.
Plus, I don't think I'll be switching to computer monitor any time soon. Why? Offline multi-player.
Omega Blue
01-08-2004, 09:07 PM
I'm pretty sure the PS3 won't be an all-in-one system (like the PSX) like Sony said it would be right out of the box. I also believe that it won't go higher than $400, maybe $299.99 like most new consoles.
And to quote Omega Blue, I agree, not everyone can afford the latest and greatest. And the mass market doesn't seem to mind [playing on a regular tube TV), which is what Sony (and it's competition) are aiming for. Although I'm pretty sure I'll have a better gaming set before PS3 (and other next-next-gen consoles) comes out. Anyone seen the new 70-inch plasma TV Sony showed on CES 2004? That would look good next to my brand-new PS3, ya? And no, I can't afford it unless I sell my soul, which I wouldn't do. So I guess that would be nothing but a fantasy, until I finish college that is...I hope.
Plus, I don't think I'll be switching to computer monitor any time soon. Why? Offline multi-player.
i deffinitly hope Ps3 has many options to support HDTV and Dolby Digital 5.1 or 7.1 what ever but like i said Sony does want to appeal to Mass market but just upper class like the guy i quoted "Console Gamer?" seem to have his simple mind filled with. :D
Yogarine
01-09-2004, 07:10 PM
I'm afraid it will be € 599,- for the Dutch release then... :(
XSora_KnightX
01-13-2004, 12:14 AM
:cry: I hope PS3 won't cost $400 because then my dad might not let me get it.
Ibanez32
01-13-2004, 12:48 AM
That all fair and well but sony seem to want it to be able to do everytihng except the washing. Does any one reckon its likely they'll take the same approach as with the PSX and release serveral different ps3's?
Omega Blue
01-13-2004, 04:01 AM
:cry: I hope PS3 won't cost $400 because then my dad might not let me get it.
*comments were slightly over board for a mod and i respectfully remove them* :)
GodZeRo
01-13-2004, 04:56 AM
No, if you are in school, school is the priority. Period. A part-time job usually involves the parent's permition, good grades, ect.
You don't know his/her circumstances, so don't be too quick to judge.
Omega Blue
01-13-2004, 06:15 AM
so the state is so uptight if you get anything below B's you cant mow lawns for money? their fore you have to depend on whatever your parents give you in allownance? im 16 and think that if thats true thats ludacris i couldn't live knowing i cant get a job even doing something as simple as mowning lawns for money without my parents permission. i hate the fact of having to depend on someone else even my parents for extra money.
GodZeRo
01-13-2004, 06:23 AM
so the state is so uptight if you get anything below B's you cant mow lawns for money? their fore you have to depend on whatever your parents give you in allownance? im 16 and think that if thats true thats ludacris i couldn't live knowing i cant get a job even doing something as simple as mowning lawns for money without my parents permission. i hate the fact of having to depend on someone else even my parents for extra money.
Technically, only if it is your own lawn.. but let's keep this off the boards.
The grades part of the post refers to parent's usual/typical rules. Parents are allowed to further restrict any work a minor does, and ussually don't like the child's grades to suffer as a result (from a parent's POV).
Omega Blue
01-13-2004, 06:26 AM
so the state is so uptight if you get anything below B's you cant mow lawns for money? their fore you have to depend on whatever your parents give you in allownance? im 16 and think that if thats true thats ludacris i couldn't live knowing i cant get a job even doing something as simple as mowning lawns for money without my parents permission. i hate the fact of having to depend on someone else even my parents for extra money.
Technically, only if it is your own lawn.. but let's keep this off the boards.
fair enough 8)
bang ya leet
01-20-2004, 07:27 AM
well, over here in New Zealand the PS2 on launch was $1000 (God dam NZ doller being so weak, even thou it's "riding high") so im guessing it will be about $1000+ NZ
well if they do im congratulate Sony on not getting much sales.
Hopefully they will learn by what's happened with the PSX, and not make the price of the PS3 THAT high.
Although the PS3 won't just be an upgraded version of something that everybody has got (if you get what I mean).
m!dn!ghtblu3
01-20-2004, 11:01 AM
well, over here in New Zealand the PS2 on launch was $1000 (God dam NZ doller being so weak, even thou it's "riding high") so im guessing it will be about $1000+ NZ
The PS2 at launch didn't cost that much in Australia from what I remember. I think it was between AU$500 and AU$700. I know the PlayStation cost around AU$800 at launch.
There must be something weird going on in NZ stores because the exchange rate between Australia and NZ is usually between
AU$1.00=NZ$1.20 - $1.10.
GUNDAMSEED
01-20-2004, 09:32 PM
when the ps2 came out it cost down here 1400 - 1800 bds which is 700 - 800us . but things are getting better now where i live ( pay 1400 for my ps2 when it came out ) there cutting the price on duty, tax etc.etc.. so when ps3 get down here is might cost if i bring it in my slelf and not buy it from a store down here, 1000bds (500 us) i would pay the money for it .
GQ_PIMP
01-20-2004, 11:49 PM
yo man the freakin ps2 cost me 500 a year after it came out with the GT package. And with all the hype i hear about this ps3 i wouldnt be suprised to see the ps3 at around $900 around launch.........but shoot, i dont care i got chash to burn on a ps3 :D
psychogenicscc
01-21-2004, 02:24 AM
I hope that PS3 will cost $399+.....with a cheap version at $299 for the cheapo's out there. :lol:
Omega Blue
01-21-2004, 05:25 AM
I hope that PS3 will cost $399+.....with a cheap version at $299 for the cheapo's out there. :lol:
their wont be 2 versions, this was thrown out the window dont start it up again. someone might take it literally.
psychogenicscc
01-22-2004, 03:08 AM
I hope that PS3 will cost $399+.....with a cheap version at $299 for the cheapo's out there. :lol:
their wont be 2 versions, this was thrown out the window dont start it up again. someone might take it literally.
I must've missed that...But Ken K. did say that PS3 was going to come in many different incarnations....Maybe hinting at possible different Versions.
He had said this Before IBM was chosen for the Cell project in a PSM magazine in 2002.He also said that the Cell was going to be 1000x the power of PS2 and he kept mentioning the System on a Chip as "Cell"...Which makes me think of who really has the Concept of Cell Sony or IBM..
Omega Blue
01-22-2004, 08:25 AM
I hope that PS3 will cost $399+.....with a cheap version at $299 for the cheapo's out there. :lol:
their wont be 2 versions, this was thrown out the window dont start it up again. someone might take it literally.
I must've missed that...But Ken K. did say that PS3 was going to come in many different incarnations....Maybe hinting at possible different Versions.
He had said this Before IBM was chosen for the Cell project in a PSM magazine in 2002.He also said that the Cell was going to be 1000x the power of PS2 and he kept mentioning the System on a Chip as "Cell"...Which makes me think of who really has the Concept of Cell Sony or IBM..
hmm never heard that? got a link to an interview or something?
bang ya leet
01-22-2004, 10:16 AM
well, over here in New Zealand the PS2 on launch was $1000 (God dam NZ doller being so weak, even thou it's "riding high") so im guessing it will be about $1000+ NZ
The PS2 at launch didn't cost that much in Australia from what I remember. I think it was between AU$500 and AU$700. I know the PlayStation cost around AU$800 at launch.
There must be something weird going on in NZ stores because the exchange rate between Australia and NZ is usually between
AU$1.00=NZ$1.20 - $1.10.
well it was $999.99 is that helps, well add GST too that which is 12% and not mentional NZ being Gay >_<
solid_snake
01-24-2004, 02:25 AM
He had said this Before IBM was chosen for the Cell project in a PSM magazine in 2002. He also said that the Cell was going to be 1000x the power of PS2 and he kept mentioning the System on a Chip as "Cell"...Which makes me think of who really has the Concept of Cell Sony or IBM..
Sony is NOT contracting IBM to design the Cell processor instead it is a joint development between Sony, IBM, and Toshiba. The technology will be coming from all three of these firms but it looks like Sony has a larger share in the project then the other two. This technology won't be going to Microsoft because Sony patended the design so I guess MS might just go for the older IBM processors or just contract Intel or even AMD. [/quote]
SuNnYBoY
01-26-2004, 08:19 AM
If you look at it this way and i do for all the gamers im sure it wont be regular price.
I mean what do gamers have??? DUH!!!! Games you dummy.. :D LMAO
So if you have a EB games or Gamestop and I do im sure we can trade in stuff who needs a PS2 when your getting a PS3???
trade in that with games and i have a gamecube and i always wanted all the systems when I was little but when you get it its not fair when the other systems lays there next to it collecting dust so either way im not getting my PS3 for regular price
And knowing game stores they have little deals like trade in PS2 and so many games you get the PS3 for half off or something like that.
Ibanez32
01-26-2004, 02:36 PM
Not such a crazy idea although i've never traded a console in my attic is getting full i've kept everytihng since my tape driven comodor 64 to my ps1.
Flameneo
02-08-2004, 02:51 AM
I think $500 dollars
P.S how do i get A different avatar?
:?:
SmoshinvoN
02-08-2004, 09:30 PM
the price always goes down like $100 after the first few months, besides early generation games for new consoles suck anywaysd just wait till the cost goes down and gaes get better,... (my only proof is "Street Fighter EX3 was only good graphics not good gameplay, and the game NBA 2001, nothing special but when ps2 came out it just tested out the graphics!)
psychogenicscc
02-09-2004, 04:44 AM
I hope that PS3 will cost $399+.....with a cheap version at $299 for the cheapo's out there. :lol:
their wont be 2 versions, this was thrown out the window dont start it up again. someone might take it literally.
I must've missed that...But Ken K. did say that PS3 was going to come in many different incarnations....Maybe hinting at possible different Versions.
He had said this Before IBM was chosen for the Cell project in a PSM magazine in 2002.He also said that the Cell was going to be 1000x the power of PS2 and he kept mentioning the System on a Chip as "Cell"...Which makes me think of who really has the Concept of Cell Sony or IBM..
hmm never heard that? got a link to an interview or something?
You have to check Back issues of PSM....I believe it was in early 2001.
Omega Blue
02-09-2004, 04:50 AM
exactly early 2001 :roll: . sorry i dont trust articles quite that old.
PogoReturned
02-27-2004, 12:21 PM
a cheap version at $299 for the cheapo's out there
Then there's a price for you.
1000x the power of PS2
Not only is that the biggest load of utter bullshit I've ever heard, but that multiplication would only get PS3 at Pacman level.
1000X? Hah hah hah hah hah, that's stupid even for dreamland.
You people don't seem to understand. Sony's quality line is being dragged accross the road by a string at 90miles an hour, while Nintendo sits snuggly in the front seat first-class.
stanDarsh
02-27-2004, 12:50 PM
Quote:
a cheap version at $299 for the cheapo's out there
Then there's a price for you.
Quote:
1000x the power of PS2
Not only is that the biggest load of utter bullshit I've ever heard, but that multiplication would only get PS3 at Pacman level.
1000X? Hah hah hah hah hah, that's stupid even for dreamland.
You people don't seem to understand. Sony's quality line is being dragged accross the road by a string at 90miles an hour, while Nintendo sits snuggly in the front seat first-class.
You think all of us here only own PS2s dont you? Truth is a lot of us don't. I own a Gamecube as well as an Xbox, to go with my PS2!
If you wanna discuss your love for Nintendo thats fine, thats why there is an "N5 discussion" thread as well as a "Nintendo DS discussion" thread located, in the "Everything Else" section
You think we are so biased, yet I bet you the majority of Nintendo and Xbox forums don't even have a Playstation discussion thread! So grow up, not down, and maybe one day someone might think there is an intelligent person inside that body of yours!
PogoReturned
02-27-2004, 12:54 PM
I bet you the majority of Nintendo and Xbox forums don't even have a Playstation discussion thread
You'd be right. Why would XBox and GC wanna talk about a console poorer than them?
So grow up, not down
Something you haven't done in a long time I see
might think there is an intelligent person inside that body of yours!
It's about time they came to grips with the facts.........
stanDarsh
02-27-2004, 12:59 PM
I bet you the majority of Nintendo and Xbox forums don't even have a Playstation discussion thread
You'd be right. Why would XBox and GC wanna talk about a console poorer than them?
So grow up, not down
Something you haven't done in a long time I see
might think there is an intelligent person inside that body of yours!
It's about time they came to grips with the facts.........
What facts? The fact you haven't written any intelligent posts since you got here? Whats wrong with you really? Did your mother drop you on your head when you were a baby, and now you have the same IQ as your shoe size?
PogoReturned
02-27-2004, 01:03 PM
You really oughta lay off the insults about intelligence. You should insult people about things you'll never have.
Unidentified
02-27-2004, 02:38 PM
You really oughta lay off the insults about intelligence. You should insult people about things you'll never have.
Ah yes. Because so far you have displayed a vastly superior intelligence. Nintendo, and it's infinitely superior games *cough*StarFoxAdventures*cough* are infallible. Nintendo makes good games. Microsoft makes some good games. Sony makes good games. I own and play all three systems and foresee doing it again with the next wave. So if you can afford all of them, enjoy all of them. Otherwise please leave the elitest, biased attitude at the door. Everyone would get along famously then.
Omega Blue
02-27-2004, 07:49 PM
You really oughta lay off the insults about intelligence. You should insult people about things you'll never have.
Ah yes. Because so far you have displayed a vastly superior intelligence. Nintendo, and it's infinitely superior games *cough*StarFoxAdventures*cough* are infallible. Nintendo makes good games. Microsoft makes some good games. Sony makes good games. I own and play all three systems and foresee doing it again with the next wave. So if you can afford all of them, enjoy all of them. Otherwise please leave the elitest, biased attitude at the door. Everyone would get along famously then.
you and i know that will never happen, its almost human nature to be biased on some subjects.
ultimategamer2004
02-27-2004, 10:42 PM
I am not involved in this argument.
I think the ps3 price will be £349.99 when it is first released.
Unidentified
02-28-2004, 03:44 AM
You really oughta lay off the insults about intelligence. You should insult people about things you'll never have.
Ah yes. Because so far you have displayed a vastly superior intelligence. Nintendo, and it's infinitely superior games *cough*StarFoxAdventures*cough* are infallible. Nintendo makes good games. Microsoft makes some good games. Sony makes good games. I own and play all three systems and foresee doing it again with the next wave. So if you can afford all of them, enjoy all of them. Otherwise please leave the elitest, biased attitude at the door. Everyone would get along famously then.
you and i know that will never happen, its almost human nature to be biased on some subjects.
Sadly true, but the elitism is the part that gets to me, not necessarily the bias.
Omega Blue
02-28-2004, 03:58 AM
well again human nature to have ones opinion about themselves, most of the time they tend to think they are better then the next person, which as Abraham Lincon put "4 score and seven years ago all mean were created equal" sadly most of the time people tend to also forget words or wisdom.
Unidentified
02-28-2004, 05:00 AM
well again human nature to have ones opinion about themselves, most of the time they tend to think they are better then the next person, which as Abraham Lincon put "4 score and seven years ago all mean were created equal" sadly most of the time people tend to also forget words or wisdom.
Close. It's "For score and seven years ago, our forefathers brought forth upon this continent a new nation, concieved in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal." I love that opening to the Gettysburg address as I feel it to be true. I agree with your point, but it gets annoying and is the thing that aggravates me most about the people around where I live. Bay Area. I like that everyone has there own ideas and opinions. It can make for great debates. The ideal that someone is better than others is just wrong. I have no where near the technical savvy as many people here, which is why I started coming here. I want to read opinions and clarifications of people "in the know" on the subject. That doesn't make them better people than me. My working knowledge is just in other areas.
brownbeaner2
02-28-2004, 06:36 AM
it doesnt matter to me as long as it doesnt cost more than $500+ itlle be good for me , if you think about it if youre going to pay $300+ for a hand held might as well buy a $500+ home console but it wouldn't hurt to cost less you know if i have a chance to pay less ill go for it
Ibanez32
02-28-2004, 08:35 AM
Thats all fair and well i payed more than that for my ps2. According to my currency converter my ps2 cost me $554. Man the uk gets ripped off. I suppose i'd pay alot more for it providing the game prices were lower. The problem is if they sell it at a cost they'll want to make their money back from software. If only games could be cheaper.
shaudeus
02-28-2004, 10:26 PM
I'd be willing to pay upto 600 dollars US if the system lived upto the hype, but only if the system as a Leap forward in terms of grapics gamplay in all aspects and all of the flaws the ps2 suffered were fixed- this isnt very much considering how much we pay for top end gaming machines or graphics cards that wont really be realized for years to come.
I will not be paying anymore than £300 on release. If the console is anymore than this on launch I will simply have to wait for the first price drop!!!
Omega Blue
02-28-2004, 11:11 PM
well again human nature to have ones opinion about themselves, most of the time they tend to think they are better then the next person, which as Abraham Lincon put "4 score and seven years ago all mean were created equal" sadly most of the time people tend to also forget words or wisdom.
Close. It's "For score and seven years ago, our forefathers brought forth upon this continent a new nation, concieved in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal." I love that opening to the Gettysburg address as I feel it to be true. I agree with your point, but it gets annoying and is the thing that aggravates me most about the people around where I live. Bay Area. I like that everyone has there own ideas and opinions. It can make for great debates. The ideal that someone is better than others is just wrong. I have no where near the technical savvy as many people here, which is why I started coming here. I want to read opinions and clarifications of people "in the know" on the subject. That doesn't make them better people than me. My working knowledge is just in other areas.
D'oh ah well you get my piont obviously :oops:
KlawHammer
03-05-2004, 08:10 AM
I am not involved in this argument.
I think the ps3 price will be £349.99 when it is first released.
Neither am i, i htink it should be NZ$450 to save us having to wait for a year (like we did for the PS2 here in NZ) till they finally decide to drop the price by atleast 50%.
oneshot187ec
03-19-2004, 03:11 AM
i would think the price will be from 250 to 500 american mula
brownbeaner2
03-19-2004, 05:18 AM
what does the ps2 come with in European countries
rev>thanu
03-19-2004, 05:26 AM
i would pay up to 800 dollars for ps3 if it's online compaitble from the start and it brings linux as it's operating system. also as long as it's CPU and GPU prove to be stronger than anything intel, nvidia, ATI and microsoft can throw at the time. if not well i would wait or just not resist and buy anyway. :D
brownbeaner2
03-19-2004, 06:04 AM
well what ever they cost hopefully its a resonable price but what im more worried about is that their is no shortages like the infamous PS2 shortages
when they came out i had to wait 3 weeks after it was released to get mine
KlawHammer
03-19-2004, 09:59 AM
Hahaha, just wait for a year or so until they drop the price by 50% than buy it.
GT4 RULZ
03-19-2004, 10:00 AM
lets hope that sony learned from there mistakes
KlawHammer
03-19-2004, 10:02 AM
Yea lol.
stanDarsh
03-19-2004, 01:24 PM
well what ever they cost hopefully its a resonable price but what im more worried about is that their is no shortages like the infamous PS2 shortages
when they came out i had to wait 3 weeks after it was released to get mine
I don't think shortages are necessarily a bad thing, think about it. Shortages created anarchy, and make people want the console even more than they wanted it before.
I think it's quite brilliant marketting really. Say you only intended to ship 500,000 PS2 consoles in the first place, but you announce to the public, there will be 1,000,000 consoles at launch. A month or so prior to launch you announce, "sorry there will be shortages due to manufacturing problems, and will only be 500,000 consoles at launch, but we will release another 100,000 every week after that", What does that do? Thats right, makes everyone who has interest in the consoles want it even more, and will step over their own mother just to get one :P
ZipZapPro
03-19-2004, 01:59 PM
I'd be willing to pay $500 or down...but what I'm afraid of are the following two things...
1. Will some games be only fun on internet? I'm not allowed to use PS2 online!
2. Will it have disk read errors like PS2 did?
KlawHammer
03-20-2004, 07:40 PM
About disk read errors that can not be predicted, why arent you allowed to play PS2 online?
ultimategamer2004
03-22-2004, 07:16 PM
i would pay up to 800 dollars for ps3 if it's online compaitble from the start and it brings linux as it's operating system. also as long as it's CPU and GPU prove to be stronger than anything intel, nvidia, ATI and microsoft can throw at the time. if not well i would wait or just not resist and buy anyway. :D
I think $800 is around 500quid and thats quite an amount to spend on a games console i belive it will be much less more like $500 or £300!
gamingmonkey2004
03-23-2004, 12:50 AM
i dont expect the PS3 to be over 400 cause more than that and people will not want to buy it and Sony wouldnt sell to many playstation 3's i mean i remeber back when PS2 came out that price was very contriversal at my school at everywhere else and i remeber in history class we talked about how much it is and crap and tied it in to the school class and crap but anyway dont expect it to be to much and if your willing to pay 800 dollars for it your insane cause why dont you just go buy a computer or something.
KlawHammer
03-23-2004, 10:06 AM
True, buying an $800 PC is better than buying a console for the same price. But knowing Sony, the PS3 will cost ton$$ when it comes out first than it will come down. Bottom Line: You'll have to pay somewhere in the region of $500-$800 initially. Unless you wait for ages for a pricedrop.
phreakypat
03-23-2004, 10:48 AM
I'll gladly pay whatever price the PS3 demands. As long as there's a bundled game or demo disc.
gamingmonkey2004
03-23-2004, 02:10 PM
yes thats what i always got was the demo or the bundle cause it was only a couple extra bucks but you get a game right away and get tp play on your new system and not just stare at it and be like hmmmm... i wonder when i am going to play or go rent a game for 7 bucks at blockbuster or w/e one my PS1 i got the demo and that was pretty cool cause it had the tekken demo and me and my freinds would take turns playing it on the demo one thing bad about it was that it was only one player and you could only have a choice between two characters but thats fine i liked it and i hope the PS3 does have a bundle
ultimategamer2004
03-23-2004, 08:28 PM
Look at this i found on ebay..
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This Wholesale list is endless. Tons and Tons of links to so many suppliers. Electronics are the hottest thing on the market. This is a great place to start if you want to make some REAL CASH on ebay.
I've just started using the Wholesale List and reselling at flea markets & other auctions. This is no joke! Save serious money.
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Obiviously this is wrong $40 for a ps3 he probably means psx and was ment to add an extra 0 on the end of 40.
gamingmonkey2004
03-23-2004, 09:42 PM
can you give a link to that i would love to see that and laugh
KlawHammer
03-24-2004, 08:58 AM
HAHAHA< I would laugh at the gumby that believed that ad....
Heres the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2996065952&category=47 103
gamingmonkey2004
03-24-2004, 02:01 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :D :lol: :lol: :lol: i fell out of my chair when i read that "or the BRAND NEW Playstation 3" OMG what moron would buy from that or put that up in eBay!? how come eBay lets them put stupid stuff up like that!? :lol:
ultimategamer2004
03-24-2004, 07:55 PM
can you give a link to that i would love to see that and laugh
heres the link..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3087212840&category=62 054
gamingmonkey2004
03-24-2004, 11:03 PM
do they think the PSX is the PS3? :lol:
KlawHammer
03-26-2004, 12:56 PM
Obviously do, i mean they are the "general populace" you know.
gamingmonkey2004
03-26-2004, 01:30 PM
you mean the general public right? just wanna make sure what your saying. but i mean i guess i could understand where they are coming from and why they are stupid
KlawHammer
03-26-2004, 09:42 PM
Yes, they see a need to ignore the "tehcnical side" of electronics. GUI has made us all lazy. Go back to the days of UNIX and you'll see why we take technology for granted.
gamingmonkey2004
03-26-2004, 09:44 PM
yup people have gotten alot lazier i mean look at everyone look how FAT everyone is its cause we dont get up and do stuff....which is no better than what im doing right now
KlawHammer
03-26-2004, 09:49 PM
Lol, yea you know the old saying: The TV is nothing to the couch potato if there is no remote control.
gamingmonkey2004
03-26-2004, 11:10 PM
exactly! and speaking of where is that darn remote? :lol:
KlawHammer
03-27-2004, 04:02 AM
Lol. You must be real lazy
gamingmonkey2004
03-27-2004, 05:10 PM
well at times. that post was mearely insulting myself. And yes i am lazy and so is everyone at sometime or another...but i still havnt found that remote :lol: jk its right here *click* *click*
ultimategamer2004
03-27-2004, 11:11 PM
do they think the PSX is the PS3? :lol:
Some :roll: noob :roll: must have got confused like it is not hard to :!:
KlawHammer
03-28-2004, 12:02 AM
Lol, like the "it tapes dvds" bit.
gamingmonkey2004
03-28-2004, 01:57 AM
omg dont bring that up please that was just plain stupid
KlawHammer
03-28-2004, 07:58 AM
Lol, but it still got you.....
gamingmonkey2004
03-28-2004, 06:52 PM
yeah im quite a hot head huh? but still someone would accually say something that stupid
KlawHammer
03-29-2004, 04:56 AM
Lol, yet it appears that it took a long time for you notice that the "tapes dvds" was wrong.
The_One
03-30-2004, 05:52 AM
I'd go with the guess of at least 500+ Us dollars, seeing as how PSP (PS Portable) is going to hit the market at the 300-400 range (sorry, can't back this number with facts 'cause I don't remember the link which I saw it on, so it's still a speculation).
Knishman9985
03-30-2004, 06:39 AM
I think the best way sony can make a $300 price deal would be to turn the PS3 into a desktop computer which plugs in to your TV. I mean if the Cell chip is so powerful, Its going to have backward compatablity with DVD and CD and a nice graphics cardd to boot all they have to do is slap a 80gb hardrive, some extra memory a 56k and 100mps ethernet mondems and they could probably raise the price to about $500 and that would even out their losses. Most of the people i know see the cell chip is something they want on their desktop computers anyway but they dont want to have to buy a game system with the chip and a brand new desktop with the chip.
The bad part about that idea comes when prices of the counsels start dropping. If the price of Nintendo and Microsoft drop sony will have to, to stay competetive so this idea has its good points and bad.
threepac3
03-30-2004, 09:44 AM
There is a reason why the psp will be that expensive. But the playstation3 will probably be $300~400 no more. I say this because the ps1& ps2 came out at the same price point which was $299.99. You would think that Sony should have charged more for the ps2 because it comes with: Backwards compatibility, DVD playback, USB & i-Link, High-end processor technology, etc. So why is so hard for ppl to believe that the ps3 could dabute at a price point of 299.99 or 349.99.
gamingmonkey2004
03-30-2004, 01:35 PM
i got my PS cheaper than 299. and i got mine a few months after it came outLol, yet it appears that it took a long time for you notice that the "tapes dvds" was wrong.
well people are sometimes that stupid so i took it seriously cause you have seen how stupid people are sometimes
KlawHammer
03-31-2004, 08:41 AM
Yes like all the n00bs that ask, "whens the PS3 coming out?"
gamingmonkey2004
04-01-2004, 01:47 AM
and my answer is "its already out but you can only buy it from me...in 5 easy payments of 102.95"
KlawHammer
04-01-2004, 06:07 AM
HAHAHa, and they usually fall for it!
gamingmonkey2004
04-02-2004, 12:36 AM
yup! got a nice ammount of money right now for real PS3s! :lol: jk..anyway the price of PS3 depends on whats all in it so we really cant talk about price right now cause we dont know what monster is inside that plastic :lol:
KlawHammer
04-02-2004, 10:34 AM
True, cant judge a book by its cover heh?
gamingmonkey2004
04-02-2004, 10:31 PM
we dont even know what the cover looks like
NickSCFC
04-02-2004, 10:39 PM
Going on todays news I'd say...
PlayStation 3 "Games system" - £250
PlayStation 3 "Entertainment system" - £500
gamingmonkey2004
04-02-2004, 10:41 PM
your still stuck on that freaking entertainment system thing?
NickSCFC
04-02-2004, 10:42 PM
Haven't seen todays news then?
gamingmonkey2004
04-02-2004, 10:43 PM
guess not. did they say there will be a PSX2 or something?
NickSCFC
04-02-2004, 10:45 PM
Here you go. (http://www.ps3insider.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=103)
gamingmonkey2004
04-02-2004, 10:48 PM
dude i feel dumb :oops: i guess i didnt read that one or i didnt notice it
NickSCFC
04-02-2004, 10:50 PM
Remember when you said my idea was stupid last Friday? Sony don't seem to think it's stupid.
Reeves said that, “there might be a normal PS3 for gamers, who just want to play the movies and have better games.” This version would be aimed at those who are willing “to pay 200 Euros ($243 USD) for a new generation games machine.” Another version, considered to be a “home server”, would feature “all-singing, all-dancing features with maybe a hard disk drive” which would retail for 600-700 Euros ($728-$850 USD).
gamingmonkey2004
04-02-2004, 10:52 PM
sorry. but the main thing i was saying was stupid was putting a PS3 in a TV. But yes Nick im sorry and now im eating my words
KlawHammer
04-03-2004, 06:44 AM
Thats right monkey, eat your words
UltimaWeapon
04-27-2004, 11:53 PM
$300.00
gamingmonkey2004
04-28-2004, 02:10 AM
yea 300 seems like it but never know
ultimategamer2004
05-03-2004, 08:13 PM
$300 is abit low i think that is around £230 it will be more like £300..(at release.)
the legendary ice man
05-03-2004, 09:55 PM
$300 is technically resonable. Samsung and Abit are expecting consumers to be able to pick up Heat Writing HDD's at the turn of the next decade for abuot the price of a 40 gig one now ($75).
I live in britain so my dollar conversion works at abuot £180 and £35
My personal opinion is that the PS3 will be about £250 for the 'home' edition and about £350 for the server edition if they come out like that.
Prices of things will drop within the next 2-3 years. Sony will also want to keep ahead of the 'game' by keeping it competatively priced against X-box 2 and NGC 2.
Makaveli_786
05-03-2004, 09:57 PM
What do you think the server edition will be kicking?
the legendary ice man
05-03-2004, 10:02 PM
hmm. I'd really like it to have double the XDR-RAM (1024mb), a second disc drive (could be fun) and the ability to be set up as a 'hidden' computer on a home/office network.
But in reality, not much else - probably just a more advanced copy of the Linux based OS.
Omega Blue
05-04-2004, 01:39 AM
hmm. I'd really like it to have double the XDR-RAM (1024mb), a second disc drive (could be fun) and the ability to be set up as a 'hidden' computer on a home/office network.
But in reality, not much else - probably just a more advanced copy of the Linux based OS.
no reason for any of that, this is a console not a dam computer.
rev>thanu
05-04-2004, 01:47 AM
i agree no need for that but the extra ram would come in handy just in case. :wink:
the legendary ice man
05-04-2004, 07:55 AM
The point was I'm going on what Sony said about the 'server' edition of the console having the ability to control / be used by other Sony products in the home as well as being used by itself.
Also the extra ram would load games quicker and faster -than what it will do anyway.
Deuce40
05-04-2004, 01:19 PM
I don't know if any of you have heard of this or not, But I read somewhere that they (Sony) was in the process of trying to make a VR set up for the PS3. Has anyone else heard about that?
gamingmonkey2004
05-06-2004, 10:55 PM
no never heard of it and it most likly isnt true but who knows i might be wrong
KlawHammer
05-08-2004, 07:22 AM
Yes ive heard about that. Apparently Sony were in China testing the PS3 VR headset on a few people and reported that after playing on it 4/5 people experienced dizziness, disorientation etc.. so i doubt they incorporate VR.
ultimategamer2004
05-08-2004, 09:33 PM
Wow so lets get this straight if they make a vr headset i will not be purchasing 1 that is quite a funny story where did you hear that.
gamingmonkey2004
05-08-2004, 09:46 PM
yea that is crazy but...is it accual VR or just a headset thingy cause i thought that guy ment a real VR and not a headset
NickSCFC
05-08-2004, 09:46 PM
Your sentance structuring is awful, I didn't understand that last post at all.
gamingmonkey2004
05-08-2004, 09:49 PM
yea that is crazy but...is it accual VR or just a headset thingy cause i thought that guy ment a real VR and not a headset
is it accual VR or a headset? Because i thought that guy (Deuce40) meant it was real VR and not a headset
there i broke it down for you
NickSCFC
05-08-2004, 09:58 PM
There's a headset for PlayStation 2.
gamingmonkey2004
05-08-2004, 10:07 PM
i meant a VR headset thingy
NickSCFC
05-08-2004, 10:09 PM
VR is alot more than just a headset, it's a different method of controlling a game.
gamingmonkey2004
05-08-2004, 10:11 PM
i know i was wondering like...something like goggles or something they go on your eyes and ear pieces then gloves or the eyetoy to control
KlawHammer
05-09-2004, 12:46 AM
Wateaver anyway i heard th story from this mate of mine whos a HARDOUT geek. Like seriuosly he has GEEK wriiten all over.
Like me, i'm still classified as a geek by many of my friends.
GUNDAMSEED
05-09-2004, 10:31 AM
The same thing happen when BIG N made that thing when the games were red it had pretty bad side effects on some people . Forgot what they name it .
stanDarsh
05-09-2004, 11:41 AM
it was the Virtual Boy
the legendary ice man
05-09-2004, 12:26 PM
In japan I think and maybe America you can get VR Fighting Mats but you have to stick all these fourescant stickers on yourself and play in the dark so that the interpreter can understand your movemtents.
gamingmonkey2004
05-10-2004, 12:08 AM
interesting whats the name of that? cause i know of this one arcade game that has camera things all over it (like an eyetoy) and its a shooting game and it moves how you move but only to a left right down diagnal motions. and a gun too
the legendary ice man
05-10-2004, 07:06 PM
Sadly, not a clue. I have just heard about it from my uncle who went out there a few weeks ago.
gamingmonkey2004
05-11-2004, 01:44 AM
yea it was on a cruise ship it was really cool. i remeber it had alot of japenese writing on it and small translations in enligh but there was no talking or anything in the game it was just BANG BANG...next level...BANG BANG DEAD...4 more coins...repeat
Hmm.....odd. Might have to have a look for that.
KlawHammer
05-14-2004, 10:36 AM
yea it was on a cruise ship it was really cool. i remeber it had alot of japenese writing on it and small translations in enligh but there was no talking or anything in the game it was just BANG BANG...next level...BANG BANG DEAD...4 more coins...repeat
Heheh reminds me of Capcom and Midway arcade games of old....
Ibanez32
05-20-2004, 06:36 PM
It it similar to the gametrak controler in any way?
Darknight
05-20-2004, 07:18 PM
interesting whats the name of that? cause i know of this one arcade game that has camera things all over it (like an eyetoy) and its a shooting game and it moves how you move but only to a left right down diagnal motions. and a gun too
That game was police 24/7. It came out for the PS2 and was compatible with a USB camera (pre eye-toy, so I don't know if it works with the eye toy).
Review here (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/r/?page=http://www.computerandvideogames.com/reviews/reviews_story.php(que)id=25697)
KlawHammer
05-21-2004, 10:11 AM
Most unlikely it would b compat with eyetoy seeing it was released prior.
Just an arcade feature. Police 24/7 came out around a year before the EyeToy.
slayerx
05-22-2004, 12:36 AM
Ahh good old 24/7 i loved that game in the arcades it loved my money too :(
KlawHammer
05-22-2004, 06:07 AM
Arcade games are such a waste of tokens really.
menace_13
06-15-2004, 11:09 AM
£350-£400 :(
KlawHammer
06-15-2004, 11:14 AM
I used to waste tons of money at arcades playing hours at a time, Time Crisis, House of the Dead 2 and Soul Kalibur being my favorites, then i discovered the benefits of staying at home.....
the legendary ice man
06-18-2004, 08:22 PM
Above all, I reckon the PS3 may now be priced at around the same limit as the PSX was 74k Yen for the 160GB and 94k? For the "50GB versions.
megadrive
06-22-2004, 01:58 AM
$500 pricepoint for PlayStation 3?
http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/06/21/news_6101035.html
Sony sticker shock: $500 PlayStation 3, $249 PSP are possibilities
Revenues, sales, even price tags are on the rise as analysts address
the upcoming transition to next-gen machines.
In a year-end report that puts Leo Tolstoy to shame, industry analysts
Michael Pachter and Edward Woo of Wedbush Morgan Securities presented
the industry today with a 144-page tome of charts, theories,
prognostication, and predictions. Unlike Tolstoy, however, their book
has a happy ending.
Titled: The Definition of Insanity: Why The Next Console Cycle Will
Start Off With A Whimper, the analysts present an "in-depth look at
interactive entertainment software." And while many of the report's
data points were revealed in May, during a Pachter-hosted E3
Conference Program luncheon, most of the data is, in fact, new.
Probably the most exotic of the report's predictions was a reference
to Sony's PlayStation 2 update. The report suggests Sony is
considering adding PSX and TiVo-like functionality to the PlayStation
3. And if it does, the sticker price on the unit could climb as high
as $500. The report states: "We expect Sony to introduce its next
console with more functionality than its current console. We base this
conclusion on the introduction of the PSX, planned for late this year.
The PSX will include a Digital Video Recorder (similar to TiVo)
functionality; broadband Internet accessibility; wireless LAN
functionality; and DVD read-write functionality. These features add
approximately $500 per unit to the cost of production, resulting in an
expected launch price of around $700. By late 2006, we expect the cost
to include these features to decline to around $250, but speculate
that the next generation console, should it include these features,
could debut at $500. At this level, we believe that many consumers
will be alienated."
Other key findings include an industry-wide growth rate (of revenues)
of 10 percent per year through 2010 and a growth rate of 14.5 percent
in revenues for console and handheld software in the US for the next
three to four years.
The report also suggests US publishers will begin to see a significant
increase in sales of game software in Japan, and that software sales
will surpass domestic music sales (in revenues) over the next two
years. Of note on the hardware front, the analysts expect that due to
increasing multimedia functionality (DVD playback, high-def
capabilities, and Web access) that the percentage of households that
own at least one console will climb from 38 percent seen during the
32-/64-bit cycle to 52 percent during the ongoing 128-bit cycle.
On the PC front, the report isolates three titles that will act as key
market movers: Doom 3, The Sims 2, and Half-Life 2, and that PC sales
overall will be driven to "near record levels."
As well, the Wedbush analysts check in with their estimate of the PSP
launch price, pegging the hardware to sell at $249.99 and software to
retail for around $30.
Ultimately, it will be female gamers, the increased spending power of
"tween" gamers (8-to-14 year olds), and aging but committed gamers
introduced to interactive entertainment on the Atari 2600, for
example, that will fuel the continued and dramatic growth of the
industry.
The report's summary closes with the following brave prediction: "We
expect interactive entertainment to be the fastest growing
entertainment sector over the next five to 10 years. We forecast the
interactive entertainment industry to grow US software sales by
approximately 11.4 percent per year over the next three years. We
project book and music sales to grow less than 5 percent per year over
the next three years and we believe that box-office movie receipts
will grow in the 2-4 percent range over the same time period. Using
our projected growth rates, we forecast that the US interactive
entertainment industry in 2004 will continue to be larger than these
competing entertainment sectors (with the exception of the music
industry which we believe will be surpassed over the next three
years), becoming the largest of these major entertainment sectors
within the US."
BigBoss1978
06-22-2004, 02:11 AM
Yo, that's ass-anine. Who in their right mind is going to pay that much for a new console?! :lol: I would rather wait a year after it comes out till the price drops.
NickSCFC
06-22-2004, 02:16 AM
It's talking about the advanced version of PS3, the one with recording bla bla bla...
KlawHammer
06-22-2004, 10:40 AM
He means the one that "tapes DVDs"...
axia777
06-23-2004, 12:02 AM
that article sounds like someone trying to provoke Sony into revealing how much PS3 is gonna cost. i doubt it will work though. btw, did the writer of that article know that sony is most likely gonna release two versions of PS3? one base version with no extras and one with all the extras. what an idiot the writer is.
KlawHammer
06-24-2004, 10:43 AM
And to think they get paid to write that....
kevindenoyette
06-25-2004, 08:48 PM
i'd pay that much. i even paid 550 dollars to get the ps2 here the day it came out.
brownbeaner2
06-25-2004, 08:51 PM
i paid $520 to get a PS2 out the door two weeks after release.
KlawHammer
06-27-2004, 11:11 AM
I could never buy any hardware as soon as it comes out, even if i have the money - let them "iron out" creases and let the price drop first.
Ouroboros
06-27-2004, 07:41 PM
According to the ongoing speculations, Microsoft is likely to price its Xbox Next PC at around $599, the analyst says. However, the company is expected to continue with its pure Xbox Next game console offering at a relatively low price, Jyske Bank adds.
http://www.xbox365.com/news/news.cgi/article/EplyEElkVAlFaWTpCi8259
The full function Xbox next according to this article might be released at a higher price than the full function PS3 ($500). If that is the case then it would be logical to asume that the pure gaming version of the Xbox will also be more expensive than the pure gaming version of the PS3.
KlawHammer
06-28-2004, 11:23 AM
M$ are yet again copying Sony with the release of 2 versions. I guess they're doing it to make sure Sony is challenged in every sector of the game market...
Word_Life619
07-03-2004, 03:41 AM
it could be $400 USA or $359 or somethig like that
KlawHammer
07-03-2004, 11:00 AM
Prbably more dude.
axia777
07-03-2004, 10:28 PM
M$ are yet again copying Sony with the release of 2 versions. I guess they're doing it to make sure Sony is challenged in every sector of the game market...
Agreed! Microsoft are not "true" innovators". The are copiers and bad ones at that. Look at their flagship product, Windows(which we all truely love... :roll: ). It was stolen basiclly from Apple. They have a long history of copying and stealing ideas from various sources and regurgitateing them back to the public. PS2 is innovation. There is no other system like it in the owrld that I know of with a processor like the EE. Bill and Co. are just scared that PS3 is gonna whup their sorry asses. Which it will, but that is another story.
I am guessing that Sony will continue their stratagy of loseing money on the hardware end and making tons of raw cash in the software end. They did this with both PS1 and PS2. I bet they will do it with PS3. My guess for PS3(basic model, games and movies only) at launch? $299.99 just like PS2. They want to sell as many units as fast as they can to break the market, just like with PS2. Which they will, but that again is another story... :lol:
ultimategamer2004
07-03-2004, 10:38 PM
Is $500 about £350 if so that isnt to bad the PS2 startd at £330 so it isnt to much more is that for the home entertainment one or basic.
KlawHammer
07-04-2004, 10:56 AM
There is no other system like it in the owrld that I know of with a processor like the EE.
Exactly, all M$ did was put a modified PIII or should i say a Celeron/PIII hybrid at 733MHz thinking that "raw clockspeed alone" would topple the PS2, we see otherwise though as MHz is a fallicy.
axia777
07-04-2004, 11:06 PM
There is no other system like it in the owrld that I know of with a processor like the EE.
Exactly, all M$ did was put a modified PIII or should i say a Celeron/PIII hybrid at 733MHz thinking that "raw clockspeed alone" would topple the PS2, we see otherwise though as MHz is a fallicy.
Exactly. It is really so sad. The same will be the same for XB:N vs PS3. We will see, but I predict a royal ass whuppin the likes of which we have not see for a long time.
KlawHammer
07-05-2004, 11:07 AM
M$ will probably go the 3rd party hardware way again..
axia777
07-05-2004, 11:37 PM
M$ will probably go the 3rd party hardware way again..
That is because they are LAME. :lol:
The_One
07-06-2004, 12:46 AM
M$ will probably go the 3rd party hardware way again..
That is because they are LAME. :lol:
Lame? LAME?! Lame does not do enough justice to describe the condemned corporation that we call "M$". But then, again, M$ isn't a hardware developer, so they HAVE to go to a 3rd party hardware producer to support them.... *insert a better word then Lame to describe M$ :P*.
KlawHammer
07-06-2004, 10:19 AM
M$ is nothing more than a corporation of greedy nerds. Is that good?
The_One
07-06-2004, 01:51 PM
Works for me... heh :P.
KlawHammer
07-07-2004, 11:29 AM
Tsk Tsk Tsk, why did M$ evnen bother coming into the games console market in the first place?
axia777
07-07-2004, 10:24 PM
M$ will probably go the 3rd party hardware way again..
That is because they are LAME. :lol:
Lame? LAME?! Lame does not do enough justice to describe the condemned corporation that we call "M$". But then, again, M$ isn't a hardware developer, so they HAVE to go to a 3rd party hardware producer to support them.... *insert a better word then Lame to describe M$ :P*.
Yes, I could say much, much worse things about them. And have in the past. But hey, I wanted to keep is clean, for now. :D
richjwild
07-07-2004, 10:53 PM
this is a family website after all...
The_One
07-07-2004, 11:44 PM
c'mon... Back on topic guys ;).
cek12345
08-05-2004, 01:38 AM
Sorry if this has been posted before but looking through 12 topics can be tedious.
It has been confirmed that ps2's will use blue-ray technology if i'm not mistaken. And someone also pointed out that the ps3 may be very expensive because of this. If Sony is going to incorporate Blue-Ray into PS3 then I don't believe the $300 mark will be enough for the console+blue-ray technology and whatever else. It just concerns me that's all. I just hope Sony can pull a rabbit out of there hat and keep the PS3 price at $300 and still incorporate Blue-Ray in the PS3. Also I hope the Blue-Ray disc games for ps3 will stay at $50.00.
Sorry if I sound like a newb but I only go to these forums once in awhile.
Take care everyone.
Bye :-)
kevindenoyette
08-05-2004, 01:56 AM
I don't know why you said 300 dollars. When the ps2 was released here, it was 550 dollars, and i paid it. I'd probably pay 500-600 for the ps3 as well, i'm a sucker like that.
brownbeaner2
08-05-2004, 02:11 AM
same here. Btw Sony managed to Incorporate Dvd read-only on the Ps2 which at the time of release you could buy a standalone DVD-player by itself for the same price as the Ps2. So im thinking that the Ps3 will once again be 300. I also Spent $550 at launch just to buy the Ps2. so i wouldnt mind paying the same for the PS3 if you think thats allot (get a job J/K :lol:)
cpiasminc
08-05-2004, 02:49 AM
Consoles are sold below cost all the time. Even after all this time, Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft are losing money on every console sold (Microsoft significantly more than the other two combined).
What's going to make the big difference is that the platform becomes popular and that there's a big library of great games available for it. End result that the three of them make it up in developer kit sales, and publishing.
I think that it's become a little more "accepted" that the debut price for a console should be around $300 now. If you told the average guy now that PS2 debuted at $550, they'd probably balk at that because everybody's completely forgotten, and it wasn't all that long in that price range anyway. Personally, though, unless I was a PS3 developer, I wouldn't really pay the debut price anyway, even if it was $150. I just know it's going to come down later and there will be a larger game library available.
cek12345
08-05-2004, 04:46 AM
Sorry about that. I never knew the ps2 price origonally was $550.00. My mistake. :-P
Ragnorok
08-09-2004, 11:43 PM
Hah, it's hilarious how some people were guessing a 300 release at most now they see they don't know what they were talking about.
KlawHammer
08-10-2004, 10:00 AM
Sorry about that. I never knew the ps2 price origonally was $550.00. My mistake. :-P
Yea they came out at ridiculous prices: $1000 in NZ.
threepac3
08-10-2004, 10:19 AM
What the hell are u guys talking about when PS2 was released Boston MA USA it was only $300 infact i payed that for my ps2.
Im wundering in what country u guys live in becuase prices very graetly sometimes in each country. If its true that it dabute at $550 in the US it most of droped incredibly fast becuase i purchased a ps3 only about 6 months after luanch.
RC Cola
08-10-2004, 10:24 AM
Apprently, Americans like us got the PS2 rather cheap. Didn't the PS2 sell for 300 pounds. (no UK currency key, or do I?) Considering that 300 pounds is quite a bit more than $300, and I think it came out later in Europe, we got a good deal. Maybe it converts to $550? No telling how much they sold for around the world.
We're cheap bastards. :lol:
edit: Yep, 300 pounds comes out to just a bit over $550. I guess that's what it meant. :!:
threepac3
08-10-2004, 10:32 AM
That makes total sence i kind of figured that ppl wern't taking in consideration of the country they live and the currency they use.
LOL not only is are American money worth shit compared to the Euro and British pound that we end up getting better deals on products and consumables anyways. HAHA i love America
Ouroboros
08-10-2004, 11:04 AM
The playstation was £300 in the UK. I bought it as soon as it was out. It is still working to this day, and I lately bought another one for my little bro. (worth every penny).
ultimategamer2004
08-10-2004, 11:45 AM
yeah if the price in a country starts high it normally drops rapid but if another countrys price is alot lower the price will drop steady. Well thats what i think.
Ibanez32
08-10-2004, 01:58 PM
It's slightly annoying when you see the millions they invest into processor design yet they won't cough up for a currency converter. For nearly all the consoles that have come out the UK price is just the US price with a pound sign infront.
ultimategamer2004
08-10-2004, 03:00 PM
Huh thats not good then if the more expensive version of the PS3 is a ridiculas price i will wait till the price goes to OK and buy it i dont think i will have to wait long!
brownbeaner2
08-11-2004, 12:31 AM
What the hell are u guys talking about when PS2 was released Boston MA USA it was only $300 infact i payed that for my ps2.
Im wundering in what country u guys live in becuase prices very graetly sometimes in each country. If its true that it dabute at $550 in the US it most of droped incredibly fast becuase i purchased a ps3 only about 6 months after luanch.
yes i am here in the states and i live in California i bought my Ps2 from a best buy and it came out to a total of 550 at launch of course like you said it was the debut price, i was just saying how much i payed for it. i was not complaining about the price. it was a good deal first of all what i was getting was new technology, a Dvd player, Video game console, and a Cd player all of these three things made the purchase a reasonable price to pay back then. and the same will be for the PS3. i sure there are more reasons i just dont have time to name them all
LaLiLuLeLo
08-11-2004, 03:50 AM
clearly you are, on some shit. PS2 launched for $299 in north america. So did the PSone, and so will the PS3. That [is] sony's pricing strategy for launching consoles, because they know that's what consumers will accept. Why is there a thread for this? Really?
LaLiLuLeLo
08-11-2004, 03:53 AM
clearly you are, on some shit. PS2 launched for $299 in north america. So did the PSone, and so will the PS3. That [is] sony's pricing strategy for launching consoles, because they know that's what consumers will accept. Why is there a thread for this? Really?
threepac3
08-11-2004, 11:28 AM
The reason is ppl can't seem to stick on one point, some ppl dispute that ps2 dabute at $299.99 in the US. It is also true that ps1 dabute at $299.99 so why wouldn't PS3 be at $299.99 Sony's Playstation classic pricing point.
But it is also understandable that some retailers might have increased the price because of the limited availiblity of the consoles themselves which is currently not being taken into consideration.
axia777
08-11-2004, 06:11 PM
I bought my PS2 for $299.99 the first month it came out in America. I have no idea why you would pay more, unless you got ripped. Other countries, no idea how much people paid. I bet that the basic price for the PS3 will price out at the same at launch, $299.99(plus tax if yah have sales tax. I don't because live in Oregon! :P Sweet!!!)
ultimategamer2004
08-11-2004, 06:11 PM
Anyways i think the overall feeel for PS3 price is £250-£300 for the gaming only and £350-£450 for the full entertainment system.
threepac3
08-11-2004, 07:30 PM
There is still no confermation that there will be two versions of ps3. The info released so far have been for the Normal ps3.
I said this along time ago on this thread but i still beleave that PS3 will dabute in the US for $299.99 just like the last 2 consoles. Even if Sony loses a lot of money on the initial consoles released(like ps2) they will still keep the price at $299.99(like ps2).
brownbeaner2
08-12-2004, 08:20 AM
that only shit im on is you, hey im not trying to start anything it is the truth i even have my reciept because of the warranty i purchased with it.
Like i said on my post above i payed the debut price this might not having anything to do with it but here in California on Ps2's launch there were shortages of Ps2's because they were so in demand the store's included additional taxes (here in california we do have to pay are taxes for everything) but hey maybe when it was launch with you guys there wasnt any shortages and you might not have had to pay the same sales taxes on the Ps2 as me. that the PS3 will most likely be $299.99 at launch again but because of PS3's popularity if might sell out too and by that make it cost more here where i live.
Ragnorok
08-12-2004, 08:21 PM
All the people planning to buy at launch and camp out and stuff if that is necesary again, will be paying whatever the PS3 costs. From a marketing standpoint it might be worth it for sony to charge more than their intended release price for a month to make substantially more money.
The_One
08-13-2004, 03:54 AM
I said this along time ago on this thread but i still beleave that PS3 will dabute in the US for $299.99 just like the last 2 consoles. Even if Sony loses a lot of money on the initial consoles released(like ps2) they will still keep the price at $299.99(like ps2). If my memory serves me correct, I believe PS2 didn't lose any money upon release like XBox. They probably gained VERY little profit (maybe a few bucks?), but they definately did NOT lose any money on it.
Pappy
08-13-2004, 03:59 AM
As i have read before, the price is roughly around $300-$400 (estimate) and previously i read that some people are saying that it will be that price then get more expensive as the other consoles come out... i believe that it will be 300-400 and it will get CHEAPER as the others come out so if your looking at a new nintendo for like $350 and Xbox 2 for $300 then if you look at a PS3 i think it would be about $200 since it will be out sooner i think. So what looks more appealing: $350, $300, or $200 (note: these arent actual prices)
threepac3
08-13-2004, 07:41 AM
As i have read before, the price is roughly around $300-$400 (estimate) and previously i read that some people are saying that it will be that price then get more expensive as the other consoles come out... i believe that it will be 300-400 and it will get CHEAPER as the others come out so if your looking at a new nintendo for like $350 and Xbox 2 for $300 then if you look at a PS3 i think it would be about $200 since it will be out sooner i think. So what looks more appealing: $350, $300, or $200 (note: these arent actual prices)
Nah Nintendo revolution will be the most likely to be the cheapest no matter what time its released. While PS3 and Xbox Next costing roughly the same (Xbox might be alittle cheaper this round). Ps2 costed me ~$315 if you add my state tax, oh yea i forgot to mention don't bank on PS3 getting a head start on the others. Microsoft and Nintendo probably have a huge head start on Sony becuase they are not creating a new brand of chip and facilities to support it that chip; there just using varients of current ones.
ultimategamer2004
08-13-2004, 01:56 PM
Yeah nintendo always make there consoles low priced so it will most likly be cheaper than both others.
dragonlance
08-15-2004, 10:41 PM
My 2 cents on next gen console prices:
PS3- 300$-350$(no less, for sure)
XB2- 300$-400$(no less, for sure)
N5-150$-300$(i wouldnt be surprised at this at all)
ultimategamer2004
08-15-2004, 10:56 PM
Sounds about right but it would be different if there were toi be 2 versions of the PS3.
5ysT3m cR45h3r
08-26-2004, 06:22 PM
PS3 should be in the range of $300 to $350 depending on if two different versions are released. Remember, this console is practically a supercomputer.
The_One
08-26-2004, 08:29 PM
PS3 should be in the range of $300 to $350 depending on if two different versions are released. Remember, this console is practically a supercomputer. Doesn't matter if it's a supercomputer or not, if the production cost is low, then they can sell the console for lower price.
ultimategamer2004
08-26-2004, 08:32 PM
Very hard to guess as we have no info but my latest estimate is £250-£350 if its the gaming only.. And if there is a full entertainment anywhere from £350-£500.
5ysT3m cR45h3r
09-01-2004, 12:39 AM
Doesn't matter if it's a supercomputer or not, if the production cost is low, then they can sell the console for lower price.
Yeah, that's a good point.
DappaDizzle
10-04-2004, 02:31 PM
do think thier tel us the price at E3
Most likely not, I reckon they'll announce the price further towards the launch of the console.
DappaDizzle
10-04-2004, 07:39 PM
yeah proberly just like thier doing with psp takeing a long ass time
If the xbox2 is released a whole year before the ps3 it could mess Sony's
price policy a bit. When xbox2 is launched I have no doubts about Billy taking the money out from the xbox fans and from impatient gamers who want to play games with next-gen graphix. But they have a whole year to do it and I believe when the time of the ps3 launch draws near Billy will cut the price of xbox2 heavily, trying to harm the ps3 sales. So I'm not sure what Sony would do if this should happen. And what comes to Revolution I think Nintendo will launch it as the cheapest one of the three, because the nex-gen console war will probably mostly take place between xbox2 an ps3.
DappaDizzle
12-01-2004, 02:17 PM
i heard a rumer it will be 299
Hold on, is there not going two different versions of the PS3? One priced at around £150 and the other considerably higher?
DappaDizzle
12-01-2004, 02:22 PM
yeah i heard the higher one was 299
I guess I'll be getting the higher priced one then, £299 isn't too much to ask for. Considering I paid the same amount for my Playstation and Playstation 2.
DappaDizzle
12-01-2004, 02:25 PM
im talking $299 so it propberly be cheaper in uk pounds.......wait no it wont the pound rate is higher
xbdestroya
12-01-2004, 03:29 PM
It's like almost two dollars per pound right now, but all the console makers love screwing the European market, so I'm sure it'll be 249 UK and 349 US or something like that. The exchange rates right now are vastly different than what they were PS2 times, and not to the dollars advantage.
Anyway that's a good point Theo made about M$ and their pricing plans come PS3 launch. I could definitely see them doing that. One can only hope that the components of their system will be so expensive still to them that they will have no choice but to keep the price up somewhat. I mean, a triple-core Power chip that IBM is fabbing for them and an ATI 520 has to cost something! You KNOW ATI is going to be charging like $500+ for that card alone in retail when it launches next year.
DappaDizzle
12-01-2004, 03:31 PM
i checked like the orther night and a pound is 3 dollars and 76 cents ... i have some asetts in england and about to do an exchange into to dollars
xbdestroya
12-01-2004, 03:34 PM
DappaDizzle you're talking crazy man! :shock:
Go on over to this site for real-time exchange rates: http://www.xe.com/
One pound = $1.926 right now. Stop freakin me out! :wink:
Consoles are generally price at £299.99 over here, so I'm expected the dearer one to be above this price. The cheaper one, like I said, at around £149.99.
Cutman3030
12-22-2004, 05:56 PM
Two PS3's? I haven't heard about this yet. Can anyone link me to some info about this please?
Rallyracr420
12-22-2004, 08:14 PM
http://www.ps3gamers.net/news12_Two_versions_of_the_Playstation_3.html
5ysT3m cR45h3r
12-27-2004, 08:48 PM
Two PS3's? I haven't heard about this yet. Can anyone link me to some info about this please?
You must have crawled out of the ground just recently. I knew of this before this page had a forum.
SolidSnake05
01-02-2005, 07:18 PM
if there are goin to have 2 versions (which i hope they dont cuz that will make the better version more expensive)then i say 200-300 for the regular one and 500-600 for the better one but it really depends whats goin to be in it.if they only have 1 ps3 then say the price would be around 300-400 which is pretty good to me.the only thing that sucks is that price wont matter they will sell no matter what like the ps2.im really afraid they will sell fast and i wont be able to get one :cry:
the reason hoe i got a ps2 cuz my dad was manager at a kb toys store and he was able to get me one.HOPEFULLY!! i can find someone that can hook me up cuz i want to buy it when it launches i dont want to wait months like some people.
amod20002004
01-03-2005, 03:40 AM
I think 300$ debut price is a safe bate for ps3. But actually it totally depends upon Microsoft. Means suppose MS debut xbox2 with 300$ launch price then it will force Sony to use same debut price.
Price of new competing products is very tricky. Look at what happened between PSP and DS. However, since Xenon is expected to launch a couple of months before PS3, then that will not be the case. I expect PS3 to be $300, unless Xenon turns to be less. If that happens then Sony HAS to follow suit. If Xenon turns out to be more than $300, then PS3 will still sell at $300.
Just to keep in mind, the launch price of PSOne and PS2 was $300. If I remember correctly, Xbox was too. I think this is a new fad that will reach nex-gen as well. The only system that MAY be cheaper would be Revolution- and that is a big 'may'.
Keep in mind that PSP's price tag shocked the world, whether be an analyst, consumer, etc. reports say that even people in side Sony were equally 'awed'. Will we have the same experience with PS3?
threepac3
01-03-2005, 04:26 PM
Price of new competing products is very tricky. Look at what happened between PSP and DS. However, since Xenon is expected to launch a couple of months before PS3, then that will not be the case. I expect PS3 to be $300, unless Xenon turns to be less. If that happens then Sony HAS to follow suit. If Xenon turns out to be more than $300, then PS3 will still sell at $300.
Just to keep in mind, the launch price of PSOne and PS2 was $300. If I remember correctly, Xbox was too. I think this is a new fad that will reach nex-gen as well. The only system that MAY be cheaper would be Revolution- and that is a big 'may'.
Keep in mind that PSP's price tag shocked the world, whether be an analyst, consumer, etc. reports say that even people in side Sony were equally 'awed'. Will we have the same experience with PS3?
I sure hope Sony has another priceing epiphany, and prices PS3 at $199.99 or $249.99 but that more then likely wont happen.
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