Which Next Gen Will come out FIRST????

[wingster23]

From the looks at things, it look like Microsoft will release early inorder to get a head start on things.especially sony :)

[Omega Blue]

im going to estimate X-Box 2 will be released fall 05 and Sony will release the Ps3 in 2006 March JPN

[JoshD]

I voted for Xbox2 because that is the only one I know of that has SDK out right now.

I also changed the poll so that it made sense.

[ultimategamer2004]

I voted for X-BOX 2 beacause i also feel they will want to get a head start on sony but i'm not shore weather anyone knows when the N5 will be realeased.

[shaudeus]

i really think xbox will end up waiting to 2006 to make sure they are cometitive with sony otherwise im waiting till ps3 comes out anyways before i make my choice on any one of the 3 majors

[megadrive]

obviously Xbox 2 will be out first.


PS3 and N5 will come out at roughly the same time in 2006. no more than 3-4 months apart.

[KlawHammer]

Mot likely Microsoft will release theirs first. They dont want a repeat of this generation now do they?

[BigBoss1978]

In my opinion, and from what I've been reading, XBOX Next (or XBOX 2) will be released first. Probably (not sure of course) late 2005, with the PS3 following in early 2006.

[KlawHammer]

Mot probably, but i though big N was not making a next-gen console?

[Mitri]

i think that the N5 will be released first because their not releasing any type of information about it.

in some article way way back i was reading that it wont be a whole home console it would be an add-on for the gamecube. so if theat article is true then its already released.

but im not sure about that info. i'll have to see if i can find the article.

[GT4 RULZ]

an add on for the gamecube that would be just plain stuipd. what graphic power are they gonna get of that :?

[Mitri]

here's a recent article about an add-on for the GC to increase its longevity:

http://cube.ign.com/articles/505/505413p1.html

[Marjoh]

It seems that Microsoft is changing its strategy. Either they're sick of loosing millions of dollars or Ed Fries departure has anything to do with it. And Nintendo has confirm that they are releasing a successor to its GameCube. And they said that they are mostly focusing on innovation, instead of graphics.

Anyway, back to the original question. I too vote for Xbox Next. BTW, an add-on to add more graphic power to a console is not a very good idea.

[Matt]

I would have to go with the Xbox 2, for the same reason as Josh has stated, also, they've given us previews of XNA pretty early as well.

[KlawHammer]

M$ are probably gonna do everything they can to make sure they are first in the upcoming console wars even if it means being the first one to release....

[greatfeelings]

I speculate that If X-box 2 Comes out first then Xbox wil be less powerful and if Ps3 comes out last then Ps3 will be more powerful. But I speculate Ps3 now has a better shot as the power king no matter what cause of cell technology.




What if I find the truth in my emotional instability :shock:

[KlawHammer]

How is that? How is it the PS3 will has a better shot as the power king no matter what cause of cell technology?

[greatfeelings]

Check these sites out. The PS3 with use cell Techonoly which Is faster than the Deep blue computer " which beat a chesschampion in chess" And Use XDR Ram which is the fastest ram there is now.







http://nkcp.zive.net/cgi-bin/mt-comments.cgi?entry_id=1146




http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/04/21/HNsonytoshiba_1.html


What if I find the truth in my emotional instability :shock:

[Omega Blue]

thats basically summing up and confirming what we have been discussing for roughly over half a year or more.

[The_One]

thats basically summing up and confirming what we have been discussing for roughly over half a year or more. Agreed.

And the XBox Next will probably be released first so that M$ can copy Sony's last generation strategy... "snatch the market before your competition arrive on the race tracks." But I doubt that'll do them anygood... if anything, it'll probably just get them a million or two consoles lead ahead of PS3.

[Omega Blue]

thats basically summing up and confirming what we have been discussing for roughly over half a year or more. Agreed.

And the XBox Next will probably be released first so that M$ can copy Sony's last generation strategy... "snatch the market before your competition arrive on the race tracks." But I doubt that'll do them anygood... if anything, it'll probably just get them a million or two consoles lead ahead of PS3.

and that million or 2 console lead will last only by my guesses, about 2 month's after the Ps3 is released in Japan. after that Sony will dominate. Sony will show tech demos that wow people, and make them wait for the Ps3 to drop.

[martel]

thats basically summing up and confirming what we have been discussing for roughly over half a year or more. Agreed.

And the XBox Next will probably be released first so that M$ can copy Sony's last generation strategy... "snatch the market before your competition arrive on the race tracks." But I doubt that'll do them anygood... if anything, it'll probably just get them a million or two consoles lead ahead of PS3.

Actually, that was arguably Dreamcasts strategy. If Microsoft release early but Sony manage to stir alot of interest in PS3, M$ are gonna be in alot of trouble as Sony will be able to analyse and learn from X-Boxs market performance and get a little extra developement time, as will games developers. Nobody beats Sony for marketing, and with an even technological playing field (or perhaps uneven in Sony's favour), I think they can dominate this gen too. Just as long as Sony and PS2 hold strong for the next couple of years.

[Fats]

I would say that Coca cola's marketing is much more effective that that of Sony's... Perhaps they should strike a deal with Coca Cola and construct the PS3 in such a way that it dispences Coke while you feel the need for a drink after a hard session on GT5...

[martel]

I would say that Coca cola's marketing is much more effective that that of Sony's... Perhaps they should strike a deal with Coca Cola and construct the PS3 in such a way that it dispences Coke while you feel the need for a drink after a hard session on GT5...

:lol: True. Their marketing dep are very active, after that whole thing about the Columbians that Coca Cola supposedly had knocked off, they got straight into pushing Sprite, made by Coca Cola I believe, as the new Christmas soft drink. Was given a free bottle by a bunch of elf-like carol singers, singing "We wish you a Spritey Christmas" :roll: .

Anyway, back on topic, sort of, your idea isn't any madder then that car cigarette lighter for your PC I suppose, though they'd insist in making the console red and pushing for a 5000% profit margin on each one sold.

[Fats]

lol, Nah I was only joking mate. I think Coca Cola make just about every soft drink there is over here anyway... They even make River rock water. ANYWAY. I personally think that the X-box 2 will be released before PS3, down to the fact that Microsoft seem to think that they will have an advantage over Sony if they get their console out first. I do not see this as being true, I believe people will just hold off from buying an X-box 2 until the PS3 is released.

Of course, X-box fans will buy an X-box 2 but you see what I mean here. I believe that the majority of people will still purchase a PS3. Sony have nothing to worry about.

[The_One]

The majority of the people will probably still get a PS2. But if PS3 was released before XBox Next then it might actually get some former XBox fans to buy into their product. But I still think the Xbox Next will be released first... unless big N pulls out a rabbit from an empty hat, I doubt that'll change (meaning, unless something radical is done by big N, I'm pretty sure XBox Next will be released first).

[KlawHammer]

This reminds me of DC, when Sega released it most people instead of buying one, waited for Sony to release the PS2...if M$ make a mistake similar to Sega lets just say they better just stick to their buggy WIndows software that crashes once every month....

and that million or 2 console lead will last only by my guesses, about 2 month's after the PS3 is released in Japan. after that Sony will dominate. Sony will show tech demos that wow people, and make them wait for the Ps3 to drop.

Yes Sony has a HUGE fanbase in Japan and its almost impossible for any foreign company to dominate, this is what M$ are facing now, there exists a "glass ceiling" that limits domination. So as long as Sony have the Japanese gamers support then they're alright.

[BigPapaSmurf]

XBOX Next will probably be released fall of 05(U.S.A) and the PS3 will also be released fall of 2005(Japan) with the ps3 making its release in the U.S probably in march or april. Microsoft would be smart to release its system around xmas time here im sure they would get alot of sales. but sony will release it in japan at that time and build major hype for the ps3 and im sure many people are gonna wait till the ps3 is released. sony is very good at marketing and im sure they will have a really awesome marketing campaign much bigger than microsoft.

[KlawHammer]

Yes SOny always release products at a strategic time.

[The_One]

Don't underestimate Billy Goats... he's still got some marketing schemes of his own up his sleeves....

[Domination]

thats basically summing up and confirming what we have been discussing for roughly over half a year or more. Agreed.

And the XBox Next will probably be released first so that M$ can copy Sony's last generation strategy... "snatch the market before your competition arrive on the race tracks." But I doubt that'll do them anygood... if anything, it'll probably just get them a million or two consoles lead ahead of PS3.

Actually, that was arguably Dreamcasts strategy. If Microsoft release early but Sony manage to stir alot of interest in PS3, M$ are gonna be in alot of trouble as Sony will be able to analyse and learn from X-Boxs market performance and get a little extra developement time, as will games developers. Nobody beats Sony for marketing, and with an even technological playing field (or perhaps uneven in Sony's favour), I think they can dominate this gen too. Just as long as Sony and PS2 hold strong for the next couple of years.

I agree.Releasing a console first was Sega's strategy to Sony,but it didn't work because Sony's console was just way too powerful with a number of excellent titles to aid it.Sony's strategy to Microsoft was software.This is the strategy Microsoft is trying to copy from Sony because it worked so well on them.Now,if it were up to Microsoft,they would be going right back into the fight with power first and software last just like this gen.

[The_One]

Now,if it were up to Microsoft,they would be going right back into the fight with power first and software last just like this gen. Then they'd suffer another defeat :P. And too bad it's not up to them, so they're gonna have to change their battle tactics to suite the new battle field and terrain :P.

[ricois300]

First, it's good that Microsoft is coming out strong trying to one up Sony, because it makes Sony bust their ass to outdo MS. If there were no MS, Sony wouldn't be innovating like they are.

Second, it will be good to have MS out first because there will be a small pool of next gen games already done that can be ported to PS3 so there is a bigger variety at launch. The quality might not be great since they're early in the cycle, but the more the better to start out with. And the developers get a chance to tweak anything that didn't work from the Xbox release.

[The_One]

First, it's good that Microsoft is coming out strong trying to one up Sony, because it makes Sony bust their ass to outdo MS. If there were no MS, Sony wouldn't be innovating like they are.

Second, it will be good to have MS out first because there will be a small pool of next gen games already done that can be ported to PS3 so there is a bigger variety at launch. The quality might not be great since they're early in the cycle, but the more the better to start out with. And the developers get a chance to tweak anything that didn't work from the Xbox release. Agreed. Those are two very good points.

[KlawHammer]

That's exactly what M$ are doing to Sony. Games come out first on the PS2 then a while later they get Xblock releases and have been ironed- out with not as many bugs and more levels, characters items etc.. and ofcourse enhanced graphics and sound.If Sony do this then we can look forward to some good launch titles com 2005-06.