View Full Version : If Nintendo went third party...
NickSCFC
04-19-2004, 10:53 PM
would you buy their games?
(this is aimed at those who do not own a Nintendo system)
klaymen
04-19-2004, 11:42 PM
though, nintendo said that the day they stop making consoles is the day they go out of buisness.
Pumster
04-20-2004, 12:42 AM
though, nintendo said that the day they stop making consoles is the day they go out of buisness.
Hahaha, that quote's the classic. Unfortunately, it really doesn't matter who said it - Nintendo is a business, and if they have a choice between milking their franchises on rival consoles and shutting down altogether, you know they'd go for the more profitable choice. "Honor and dignity" don't have much of a say in decision-making policies, and if you've got the resources, why shut every last building down when there's still money left to be made?
Personally, I don't think Nintendo would last very long as a third party developer. If Nintendo plans on cranking out more Mario Party and Pikmin games, they might find out that PlayStation and X-Box provide very different audiences. Despite Nintendo’s famous name, they’ve changed significantly since the days of the NES and SNES, and there’s no way to hide the choices they’ve made since the N64. If Nintendo planned on falling back on their "key" franchises without displaying any originality or creativity, they’ll quickly be buried by other developers. (Especially those that previously developed for their consoles, such as Silicon Knights, Konami, and Capcom.) Yeah, there would still be a huge group of Nintendo-supports, willing to buy all their third-party products, but in the end, I don't think Nintendo would be able to go very far if they didn't improve the quality of their software when switching over. For example, let’s assume Nintendo has created a line-up for the PS2, and their games are competing with other titles on the market. (Pretend all the following titles were just released. In addition, pretend, regardless of your financial status, that you could only choose one of the two games listed.) Would you buy Jak II or Mario Sunshine 2? 1080 Snowboarding 3 or SSX 4? Metroid Prime 2 or Killzone? Think about it.
stanDarsh
04-20-2004, 04:30 AM
I'd definately buy Nintendo games, Metroid Prime is one of my favourite games! Zelda, Mario and Metroid are all top games and if Nintendo were to become a 3rd party developer, I believe they'd develop a lot more games than they do at present.
Omega Blue
04-20-2004, 06:09 AM
if Metriod prime and more games from Nintendo get aimed at my style and show up on the Ps3 i would deffinitly buy them
GT4 RULZ
04-20-2004, 11:31 AM
star fox adventures 8)
stanDarsh
04-20-2004, 01:18 PM
star fox adventures 8)
I thought star fox was owned by Rare
GT4 RULZ
04-20-2004, 01:50 PM
oh my god ur right standarsh thanks for that
:(
im stupid
Star Fox Adventures
Publisher: Nintendo Developer: Rare Ltd. Genre: Action
NickSCFC
04-20-2004, 02:15 PM
No, it was developed by Rare but Nintendo have the pubishing rights to it.
klaymen
04-20-2004, 02:22 PM
the reason nintendo is failing is because they are ahead of there time. They are thinking that people care more about intuitive gameplay than they do about graphics. But it's not true yet, because graphics quality is still on the rise. If nintendo would have kept focusing mainly on hardware for a few more years, and then started making innovative and fresh games, then they might be doing alot better.
NickSCFC
04-20-2004, 03:10 PM
Yet some Gamecube games have the best graphics on any console, take these for example...
Resident Evil 4
Super Masrio Sunshine
Super Mario Kart: Double Dash
F-Zero GX
Metroid Prime
klaymen
04-20-2004, 03:13 PM
Yet some Gamecube games have the best graphics on any console, take these for example...
Resident Evil 4
Super Masrio Sunshine
Super Mario Kart: Double Dash
F-Zero GX
Metroid Prime
yes, but gamecube doesn't have games with graphics that are trying to simulate real life. that is what most of the superficial jackasses who play games because "its cool" are looking for......GOD DAMN AMERICANS!!!!!
NickSCFC
04-20-2004, 03:48 PM
Tough luck to them then.
Pumster
04-20-2004, 06:40 PM
the reason nintendo is failing is because they are ahead of there time. They are thinking that people care more about intuitive gameplay than they do about graphics. But it's not true yet, because graphics quality is still on the rise. If nintendo would have kept focusing mainly on hardware for a few more years, and then started making innovative and fresh games, then they might be doing alot better.
Hahaha, it's time to clear some stuff up. (With examples!) Nintendo's weakness isn't in the Hardware, but the quality of their Software. You see, the PS2 is the "worst-looking" console of the three, but its Software gives it twice as much potential. The problem with Nintendo is not being ahead of their time, but not being prepared to handle the present.
While Nintendo's famous for supporting their consoles with plenty of first-party titles, the quality and care that was once seen in the company name is quickly depleting. This is due largely to the fact that Nintendo follows a mentality that the GameCube is their way of "starting over." However, they've taken this philosophy and used it as an excuse to rehash old ideas and butcher new ones. For example, Mario Sunshine is the least inspired mainstream Mario title currently available. Boasting the "adequate for its time" gameplay mechanics of Mario 64, the game attempts to simply bring the Mario name to the next generation. This is the wrong way to do things - Mario needs to be reinvented to hold the interest of fans. Rehashing the same ideas with minor additions and ultra-awesome graphics is not the key to success, which has been evidenced by Mario Sunshine's sales. The next example is, of course, Zelda: Wind Waker. I'll spare everyone my speech on Nintendo being "kiddy," how its ruined their best franchises, and where it will ultimately lead them, but it's worth noting that Wind Waker is hardly an achievement. The game is clearly a "fetch quest," with the only rewards being the five dungeons. However, these dungeons feature simplistic layouts, simple enemies, and "one-try is all you need" bosses. Wind Waker brings the mechanics of Ocarina of Time into the next generation, but again, high production values don't replace lackluster gameplay and absolutely no recognition of the previous Zelda's. (Yes, the story makes reference to previous Zeldas, but as far as presentation, theme, and content go, the game is clearly not influenced by them.) As for everyone wanting "more realistic" graphics, that's just not true. Yes, we go crazy when we see it done right, such as Resident Evil, but overall, we just want to play something that looks good. (Odd logic, isn't it?)
I don't want to go into a big thing about Gameplay, but it's worth noting that games such as Jak II, Gran Turismo, Metal Gear Solid, and Final Fantasy are successful because they offer the best of both worlds. (Graphics and Gameplay.) Let's face it, a game has to be fun to be played, and if anything, that's something Nintendo has to acknowledge if they want to continue their influence in the industry. Graphics and Presentation are significant, but if the game is unresponsive, clunky, and just plain boring, it won't sell.
NickSCFC
04-20-2004, 06:56 PM
True Mario Sunshine bought a few new ideas but didn't really have the impact of Mario 64. I don't think we should be judging Mario's influence on Gamecube just yet, from what I've heard, the next Mario game will be nothing short of revolutionary, we may well see it at the E3.
imported_Anonymous
04-20-2004, 07:04 PM
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klaymen
04-20-2004, 07:05 PM
i thought most of nintendo's games were fun. My game picks from nintendo: pikmin, luigi's mansion, mario sunshine, mario kart double dash. all of these games are original (except mario kart, but it is still fun). just because nintendo games are colorful doesn't make them kiddy games. they are fun and new, and thats what i like about nintendo.
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