Gran Turismo 4 Mobile Discussion Thread

[NickSCFC]

Publisher: Sony
Developer: Polyphony Digital
Release Date: March 2005
Homepage: www.granturismoworld.com
Trailer: PlayFrance TV (http://www.playfrance.com/psp/downloads/videos/view/55,25335751,314294.html)

http://www.ebgames.com/ebx_assets/product_images/520622.jpg

"Gran Turismo Anywhere" - Gran Turismo 4 Mobile, coming from the Gran Turismo series, is the PSP version of the real driving simulator. Its product quality is not at all inferior to its PS2 counterpart, and is compatible to competition over wireless LAN, a unique feature to the PSP.

[Matt]

Way-hay, good to see GT4 on the PSP. I'm guessing that apart from that picture there is no info yet.....

[NickSCFC]

Not many screens, but there is these promotional images. I'm guessing the visuals are the same as the PS2 version.

http://www.psinext.com/SPix/images/aac.jpg

http://www.ukpe.net/images/psp7.jpg

[richjwild]

the speedo on the umd luks gud

[Matt]

Can't go wrong if it's basically GT4 on the PS2. Looking forward to seeing it in action on the PSP.

[Makaveli_786]

800 cars on the PSP too?

[NickSCFC]

I only have screens to go on, graphically it's very close to the PS2 version.

[neptunez]

post them

[Omega Blue]

800 cars on the PSP too?

most likely no, 1.8 gigs is not alot to work with when your talking about a double CD Ps2 game. the Ps2 disc hold 4.7GBs

[Makaveli_786]

The dude said 3 CD's I think so thats 700*3=2.1 GB, i still get your point though, the PSP graphics looked far superior to PS2 graphics though.

[neptunez]

http://loveandhate.free.fr/11052004/pspsc7.jpg
http://loveandhate.free.fr/11052004/pspsc2.jpg
http://loveandhate.free.fr/11052004/pspsc3.jpg

[Omega Blue]

the PSP graphics looked far superior to PS2 graphics though.

:lol: LMAO that had me rollin, nice joke.

[Matt]

Hehe, good one. I would imagine that there will be around 150-200 cars. Which is about the same as the amount on the 2nd game I think.

[Makaveli_786]

LOL, will somebody who saw the conference tell this dude about the PSP graphics, man unless I was day dreaming during the conference the PSP graphics were friggin amazing.

[Matt]

It probably looks fairly good because of the small resolution, but there is no way that it will be as good as the PS2 version.

[Omega Blue]

well not ment as an insult, but you have been known to stretch the truth when it comes to topics about Sony. thats why id' rather wait for screenshots and movies to see for myself and be my better judgement.

[Makaveli_786]

LOL, well I can live with that I would be a little skeptical myself, shit in fact I was skeptical even when I saw the graphics but the demos they ran were truly spectacular, anybody who saw the conference will tell you that :shock:

[UltimaWeapon]

that case is interesting. I would have thought it would have been much smaller.

[Matt]

With all the features they're putting in and the power of the whole thing, they probably couldn't make it any smaller!

[UltimaWeapon]

With all the features they're putting in and the power of the whole thing, they probably couldn't make it any smaller!

I'm talking about the game case...

[PSPBoye00]

I cannot wait to play this....*drools*

[Danji]

They might be able to fit the full amount of cars from the PS2 ver. on the PSP ver. but you could expect some dulling of textures. Textures and sound files are the largest files that a game has, no?

[jaxmkii]

the PSP has analog??? :o

[ultimategamer2004]

800 cars on the PSP too?

I dident think there wee going to be that many on the ps2...500+?

[Matt]

I'm talking about the game case...

Whoops, sorry. :oops:

the PSP has analog??? :o

Yes.

I dident think there wee going to be that many on the ps2...500+?

The PS2 version of GT4 has around 500 cars and 100 tracks. I would say that the PSP version would have around 1/3 - 1/2 of that amount.

[solidus]

the PSP has analog??? :o
Yes but on the wrong side!!

[Makaveli_786]

800 cars on the PSP too?

I dident think there wee going to be that many on the ps2...500+?

Omega put up a link the other day, they predicted 700-800.

[richjwild]

100 - 200 cars is still alot, alot more than most games, and more than enough on a handheld

[Matt]

800 cars on the PSP too?

I dident think there wee going to be that many on the ps2...500+?

Omega put up a link the other day, they predicted 700-800.

specialpro posted this in the GT4 thread. Can't verify it myself as there is no link to where it came from:

"In addition, Gran Turismo 4 will boast more than 500 cars and up to 100 courses from around the world."

[martinj]

Gran Turismo 3 if you ripped out the cars images for the night then you could fit it on a cd.

[Makaveli_786]

Good point.

Besides im wondering UMD probably stores data differently right so maybe it compresses it in some way.

Also is UMD flexible as in can the capacity be increased?

[Matt]

I would've thought that they would come up with a way of creating higher capacity UMD's at some point. But 1.8GB isn't bad to start off with.

[DappaDizzle]

i agree with matt 1.8gb isint bad 2 start of with the umds but in due time they will proberly increase it

[Fats]

Here's a link so you can verify that I'm not talking shit...lol.

GT4 new details (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/news/news_story.php?id=104554)

[Matt]

It's not that I didn't trust what you had written, there just wasn't a link with the piece you had posted.

Well at least we know you weren't talking shit now :)

[NickSCFC]

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/screenshots_library/dir_247/vortal_pic_123789.jpg

[Makaveli_786]

Looked much better than that in th video :shock:

[NickSCFC]

That's from the video.

[Makaveli_786]

You sure, the lighting was a lot better in the video.

[richjwild]

the pic isnt rely a very high quality pic, they neva r wen they r taken directly at a screen

[NickSCFC]

I just said it was taken from the video!

[Makaveli_786]

the pic isnt rely a very high quality pic, they neva r wen they r taken directly at a screen

Yeah good point, ive noticed that too.

[gamingmonkey2004]

o boy im excited at first when i heard about hte GT4 PSP i was scared that it wasnt going to be on PS3 and they tricked us and made it for PSP only!

[NickSCFC]

The trouble is, will you buy it on PS2, PSP or for both?

Apparently you can use the same save data on both versions.

[gamingmonkey2004]

i think you can transfer save files so like you have to go and you plug your PSP in your PS2 and transfer the data over then go play but yea most likly get both

[NickSCFC]

Never bough the same game twice :roll:

[Danji]

You can buy it in bundles including the PSp version and the PS2 version, that way when you are about to leave you can continue your game at the point you were at at your house. This is great, now I can devote more time to games.

[brownbeaner2]

welcome back - Danji Ikari
now that we have true hard facts this seems like a great idea to me. bundle packs.

[NickSCFC]

Sounds bloody boring to me.

[DappaDizzle]

i think bundle packs whould be a ok idea but it might cost quite a bit

[NickSCFC]

Special edition PSP (Gran Turismo)

http://www.pspinsider.com/screens/album03/aat.sized.jpg

[gamingmonkey2004]

that cool but i kinda like the other white one it kinda looks pearly or something. its not a normal white

[alens5]

i cant wait for this game to be released i can look at screens and videos all day because i'm visually impared so i bring a laptop to school to help me work easier and i get bored in math alot


ive got a 40 gig hard drive and 23 gigs are filled up with porn :D :D :D

[stanDarsh]

ive got a 40 gig hard drive and 23 gigs are filled up with porn :D :D :D

Can someone get this kid some tissues? :lol:

[Majes]

Before, we all was talking about the car number...I think it can be...something like 400 cars, remember in GT2 in the ps1, 650mb CD, and there are somethng like 250 cars, if remember well.

So , in 1.8gb, 400 cars can fit easily, and more tracks...audio...many things!

I hope that you have to buy the car pieces, and not win them (as GBA GT)

[richjwild]

400 cars would be fantastic, i just hope they pick the best 1s, i wonder if anything will be exclusive to the psp

[gamingmonkey2004]

is thre a difference between the one thats going to be on PS2 and the one on PSP or are they going to be the exact same? cause if they are im only going to get the PS2 version

[limbfilter]

Maybe there will be a game bundle pack...Like buy gt4 for ps2 and psp in one box....Nah...that'll never happen. :P

[richjwild]

it probably will happen actually, and you can share your saves and the cars you have bought, and lap times etc

[gamingmonkey2004]

move saves over from PS2 it PSP yea i think that is one of the reasons they made it like that

[richjwild]

ye it will almost definatly be like that

duno if id get both tho, maybe just the psp version.

it would be gud if sum1 on a psp could play against sum1 on a ps2, i dont no if that wud be possible tho

[gamingmonkey2004]

it could be possible if there is an online thing for GT4

[LaLiLuLeLo]

I've seen the movies (ps2.ign.com), look it up. It is not inferior to the ps2 version.

[ultimategamer2004]

Yes the graphics will be brilliant and they say it will be at leasst the same as the PS2.

[Matt]

I've seen the movies (ps2.ign.com), look it up. It is not inferior to the ps2 version.

Only because the video shown was run through an emulator. That video shown was EXACTLY the same as one of the PS2 videos circulating, graphically that is. I seriously dont think that the PSP version will look exactly like the PS2 version. It'll be good, but not equal.

[gamingmonkey2004]

o yeah i keep forgeting that they were running those on hte PCs! dang but the PSP will be close to the PS2 graphicly right? but not exactly

[Fats]

Yea, I've heard a lot of publications saying that the power of the PSP will be very close to that of the PS2. 8)

[ultimategamer2004]

Yes i have seen loads of things saying it will be very close or even the equilvilent power of the PS2 so this will be good.. Plus i belive that this is the truth.

[NickSCFC]

move saves over from PS2 it PSP yea i think that is one of the reasons they made it like that
I'm guessing you'd use a USB connector for that.

[Makaveli_786]

Yeah theyll have some way somehow to do that, long time nick :D

[NickSCFC]

I'm guessing you just connect your PSP to your PS2 or PSX with the USB cable and the PSP's Memory Stick just shows up on the PS2 or PSX's "Browser" screen as a Memory Card.

[Matt]

Would seem like the most sensible option. Is access to data on memory sticks as fast as the memory cards?

[kevindenoyette]

it's far faster.

[NickSCFC]

Well seems as you can play video and music from Memory Stick, I'd think so :lol:

[Matt]

Well seems as you can play video and music from Memory Stick, I'd think so :lol:

OK OK, just checking.

[NickSCFC]

Sony have launched a new official Gran Turismo website - www.granturismoworld.com

More images (E3 2004 trailer):

http://gamesradar.msn.co.uk/media/gamesradar/gt4m1.jpg

http://gamesradar.msn.co.uk/media/gamesradar/gt4m2.jpg

http://gamesradar.msn.co.uk/media/gamesradar/gt4m3.jpg

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http://gamesradar.msn.co.uk/media/gamesradar/gt4m5.jpg

http://gamesradar.msn.co.uk/media/gamesradar/gt4m6.jpg

http://gamesradar.msn.co.uk/media/gamesradar/gt4m7.jpg

http://gamesradar.msn.co.uk/media/gamesradar/gt4m8.jpg

http://gamesradar.msn.co.uk/media/gamesradar/gt4m9.jpg

[Matt]

Hopefully we'll see some actual in-game footage of Mobile at TGS.

[NickSCFC]

Looks pretty much similar to the PS2 version but at an obvious lower resolution, as you'd expect.

[Makaveli_786]

Man I cant either, im sick of seeing photocopied images, they blurr the picture so much the damn games look horrible.

[NickSCFC]

Man I cant either, im sick of seeing photocopied images, they blurr the picture so much the damn games look horrible.

There's a trailer in the opening post, it's short but it does look pretty decent, worth watching.

[Matt]

Even the trailer is a bit fuzzy. Can't wait to see some clear pictures and seeing it in action.

[richjwild]

It's been a bit of a dull period for the PSP in terms of news lately, hopefully when we get out of summertime there should be a big tidalwave of game news :D

[Matt]

There will be a lot more info when we come to TGS. There will be a load of playable demos there I think. Tales of Eternia has been the only playable demo on the PSP so far, and that was at E3.

[NickSCFC]

Would the controls be any different to the PS2 version?

Does the PS2 version make use of L2, R2 or R3?

[Matt]

Erm, I guess that if you use the manual transmission, then you use L2 and R2. Don't think that R3 is used for anything.....

[ultimategamer2004]

Very low res images dont do the game justice.. It will look better in game.

[NickSCFC]

Even though the game actually is lo-res, well, it doesn't look jagged on a tiny screen, but you catch my drift.

[ultimategamer2004]

Supose so seen as they are much bigger!

[Matt]

All of the PSP demos were projected onto a monitor weren't they?

[NickSCFC]

They were running on the PSPs at the E3, there were a load of them lined across the wall.

[solidus]

According from an article i read a while ago it wasn't.
The Psp's were empty shells with lcd screens connected to some kind of Pc or another device...

[NickSCFC]

Hopefully we'll see some actual in-game footage of Mobile at TGS.
So when is TGS? It seems quite a long way away :(

[ultimategamer2004]

Think its September or Oct its this winter anyway! :P

[games_ fan]

24-26th of september. I can't wait :D

[ultimategamer2004]

Not as bid as E3 obiviously but it is still a major event! :lol: 8) :shock: :?

[Jack Skellington]

According from an article i read a while ago it wasn't.
The Psp's were empty shells with lcd screens connected to some kind of Pc or another device...

Yep, you're dead right. No one (outside of the SONY boffins) has yet to lay their hands on a finished machine playing a game on an inserted UMD. Strange given the proposed release date. :?

[NickSCFC]

Apart from Tales of Eternia, which was playable, and just happened to be 2D. Hmm...

[Chris Metal]

I going to ECTS '04 so I got that 01-03 September... be interesting to see whats there :D

[NickSCFC]

Doubt PSP will be there though.

[ultimategamer2004]

:lol:

He may have high hopes so dont ruin them!

I would like too go to a game show one day........ :cry:

[NickSCFC]

A couple of people I know went to ECTS last year, Kojima was there and one of them met him :mrgreen:

[Sockatume]

According from an article i read a while ago it wasn't.
The Psp's were empty shells with lcd screens connected to some kind of Pc or another device...

That's been suspected, however there was one playable PSP demo (and there were about a dozen more at the recent PS event thingie) which suggests that, if it's an emulator, it's a very good and consistent one. An E3 showgoer also managed to trick MG:A into showing its main menu, from which a playable demo could be selected (the same demo that was at the aforementioned PS event), again suggesting that, if the PSPs were just screens and controls, they were hooked up to very well-behaved emulators.

[ultimategamer2004]

A couple of people I know went to ECTS last year, Kojima was there and one of them met him :mrgreen:

Yeah well i bet that was good fun! I would like to go and maybe in a few years i will go the EIGF..Might be bit rubish though i mean it isnt major.

[NickSCFC]

I thought the games at PS Meeting 2004 were playable? Unless those people in the vid are good at pretending to play games...





abitlike those kids you find in arcades [mrgreen]

[NickSCFC]

Source - www.gamespot.com

Series director says hardware similarities between the handheld and console make a straight port of the racer the logical move.

TOKYO--Gran Turismo 4 Mobile for the PSP will essentially be a port of the PlayStation 2 Gran Turismo 4, said series producer Kazunori Yamauchi in an interview featured on Sony's official Japanese PlayStation Web site. In the interview, Yamauchi states that he plans to keep the same amount of content on the PSP version, but the developers at Polyphony Digital are determining what needs to be done to the PS2 version to make it playable on the handheld.

"The PSP is a portable game machine, and people may think it's oriented towards playing simple games, but it really has the same hardware performance as the PS2," comments Yamauchi in the interview. "Since we're already developing the GT4's system on the PS2 hardware, we're planning to port that directly to the PSP."

Yamauchi broadened the discussion to PSP games in general. "There's basically two ways of making games for the PSP. One way is to develop an original new game, which in general will be limited in its content since the price of PSP games aren't going to be too high, meaning the game's development budget will also be limited. We're going to be taking the second method, which is to take a system from a major title, and effectively sliding it onto the PSP hardware," he said.

Yamauchi also said that Gran Turismo 4 for the PS2 is currently still around 75 percent complete and that he plans to release it by the end of the year. Given that fact, though, it is unlikely whether the PSP version will be finished in time for the PSP launch in Japan this fall and in the US in early 2005.

[richjwild]

Yamauchi states that he plans to keep the same amount of content on the PSP version, but the developers at Polyphony Digital are determining what needs to be done to the PS2 version to make it playable on the handheld.

is that saying he'll have to make cutbacks in the ps2 version just for ease of porting it over to the psp :?: :shock:

so cars may be left out, graphics toned down (lighting etc)

[games_ fan]

i think he meant their are looking at what needs to be changed for the psp version they wouldn't make cutbacks on the ps2 version they want to make it as good as possible.

[ultimategamer2004]

Thats true and the lighting is very good on the psp so i dont or hope there wont be cut backs!

[NickSCFC]

Don't see the need in pushing the PSP with all that graphical detail, what with it only having a small screen and all :)

[raVen]

Also in the article he says he plans to keep the content the same (i.e Cars, tracks, parts, etc.)

What I think he's refering to by cutbacks are the controls Ps2 has R2,L2, right analog, L3, R3 Psp doesnt. Also some graphics have to be moved and/or made bigger to be seen easier on the Psp screen like the did with Amored Core: FF

[PS2warrior]

PSP Gran Turismo confirmed as port

In news that will do no harm whatsoever to the prospects of Sony's upcoming entry into the handheld market the Gran Turismo that appears on the PSP will be the same game that is imminent for the PS2. Series producer Kazunori Yamauchi revealed in an interview on Sony's official PlayStation website that he intends to keep the same amount of content in the PSP version as the PS2 Gran Turismo 4.

"The PSP is a portable game machine, and people may think it's oriented towards playing simple games, but it really has the same hardware performance as the PS2," comments Yamauchi in the interview. "Since we're already developing the GT4's system on the PS2 hardware, we're planning to port that directly to the PSP." Yamauchi broadened the discussion to PSP games in general. "There's basically two ways of making games for the PSP. One way is to develop an original new game, which in general will be limited in its content since the price of PSP games aren't going to be too high, meaning the game's development budget will also be limited. We're going to be taking the second method, which is to take a system from a major title, and effectively sliding it onto the PSP hardware," he said.

Gran Turismo 4 is apparently around 75% complete and still on course for a release by years end, but it is looking unlikely that Gran Turismo will be a PSP release game.

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[NickSCFC]

Apparently GT4 Mobile was shown at PlayStation Meeting 2004 on two UMDs.

[ultimategamer2004]

Yeah they probably will have 2 but how they will do it i dont know bit like MGS i think but it will be hard to find a point for disk2 to come into play!

[NickSCFC]

Told you it comes on two UMDs, infact I bet half the games will come on two UMDs, hence why they kept the standard case size. You could fit two UMS in each case, one above the other.

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[PS2warrior]

i knew that the bottom one is turned backward so u can see the back duh!

[ultimategamer2004]

Good point seen as the case size is the same i supose it could be most games having 2 UMDS but some i am sure will still have 1.

[games_ fan]

I think they will split the game like like GT2 was with multiplayer and arcade on one disk and the "simulation" mode on the other disk.

[ultimategamer2004]

its obivious that they will split the game but it is which parts will be on each disk but that is highly possible.

[PS2warrior]

is the disk size the same as Gamecube?

[ultimategamer2004]

Dont know but i think that UMDS are very slightly smaller.

[NickSCFC]

I think PS2Warrior mentioned in the PS2 GT4 thread that there are two lists of tracks. Tracks for Simulation Mode, and tracks for Arcade Mode. Seems like one disc will be Simulartion Mode and the other will be Arcade Mode. Like Gran Turismo 2 then.

Seems like it'll work out like this:

UMD 1 - SIMULATION MODE - 1 PLAYER
(600 cars)

Real Location Street Based Tracks
HONG KONG
NEW YORK
SEOUL
KASHIWA
PARIS
LAS VEGAS

Real Race Racing Tracks
TSUKUBA
FUJI
NURBURGRING
MONACO
LAGUNA SECA
INFINEON
MOTEGI

Tarmac Rally
CITTA DI ARIA
AMALFI
PARIS

Rally
GRAND CANYON
GRAND CANYON NORTH
NURSNOW
TAHITI MAZE
YOSEMITE

Fantasy GT Tracks
HIGH SPEED RING
MIDFIELD RACEWAY
DEEP FOREST
APRICOT HILL
GRAND VALLEY
ROUTE 5
ROUTE 5 RAIN
TRIAL MOUNTAIN

Test Tracks
20R 60R
TEST
TEST COURSE
OVAL
MINI
GYMKHANA

Photo Locations
SAN MARCO
SHIBUYA (Tokyo)
SAGANO (Kyoto)
BROOKLYN (Brooklyn bridge)
TSUGAMO (Nagano)
FREEMONT
TSUKIJI (Tokyo)
NANZENJI (Kyoto)
RIALT (Venice)
LOUISBERG
FORUM
FORUM
GION (Kyoto)

UMD 2 - ARCADE MODE - 1-4 PLAYERS + ONLINE PLAY
(100 cars)

Tarmac
SUPER SPEEDWAY
TAHITI ROAD
SEATTLE SHORT
SEATTLE LONG
ROME SHORT
ROME LONG
ROME NIGHT
RED ROCK VALLEY
GRINDLEWARD
CLUBMAN STAGE 5
GRAND VALLEY EAST
SSR11
AUTUMN RING
AUTUMN MINI
COMPLEX STRING

Rally
TAHITI DIRT
SMOKEY MOUNTAIN NORTH
SMOKEY MOUNTAIN SOUTH
GREEN FOREST
SWISS ALPS
PIKES PEAK

[ultimategamer2004]

yeah that looks right but 600 cars i thought there were only 510 altogether!

[NickSCFC]

Makaveli said about 800, but then it was Makaveli :P

[Fats]

I don't understand how one person could talk so much shite. He was a legend. :lol:

[NickSCFC]

Gran Turismo 4 will have PlayStation 3 graphics. Sony achieved this by pulling their fingers out of their arses and doing something with the Emotion Engine

[Fats]

God... We'll be quoting Makaveli for a long time. Classic. Someone should make a thread, "top 10 Makaveliers of all time!" :)

[NickSCFC]

Shpould be a sticky :mrgreen:

Anyway, here's a final car list for the PS2 version, according to PS2Warrior :?

http://home.zonnet.nl/rooy08/carlist/afb/acura.jpg

Acura 3.2 CL Type-S
Acura DN-X Concept
Acura Integra GS-R '92
Acura NSX Alex Zanardi Edition '99
Acura RSX Type-S '03
Acura TSX '04

http://home.zonnet.nl/rooy08/carlist/afb/alfa.jpg

Alfa Romeo 1300 Junior Zagato '71
Alfa Romeo 147 GTA '03
Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI Race Car '93
Alfa Romeo Super Turismo Race Car '01
Alfa Romeo 158 Formula 1 '50
Alfa Romeo 1600 Duetto Spider '66
Alfa Romeo 166 3.0 V6 24V '98
Alfa Romeo 179 Formula 1 '80
Alfa Romeo 33 TT12 Race Car
Alfa Romeo 33-2 Race Car
Alfa Romeo 33-2 Stradale '67
Alfa Romeo GTV '03
Alfa Romeo GTV '73
Alfa Romeo Montrreal '70
Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0 V6 '98

http://home.zonnet.nl/rooy08/carlist/afb/amc.jpg

AMC AMX
AMC Javelin

http://home.zonnet.nl/rooy08/carlist/afb/am.jpg

Aston Martin AMV8 Vantage Concept '03
Aston Martin DB AR1 '03
Aston Martin DB2 '50
Aston Martin DB3S Race Car '53
Aston Martin DB4 GT '58
Aston Martin DB5 '64
Aston Martin DB6 '66
Aston Martin DB7 '99
Aston Martin DB7 GT '03
Aston Martin Lagonda '82
Aston Martin V12 Vanquish '00
Aston Martin V8 Vantage
Aston Martin Virage '88

http://home.zonnet.nl/rooy08/carlist/afb/audi.jpg

Audi 100 Coupe S '69
Audi A4 Touring Race Car
Audi TT-R ABT Race Car '02
Audi RS6 Geneva Avant '02
Audi R8 Race Car '03
Audi RS2
Audi RS4 Avant '95
Audi S3 '04
Audi S4 '01
Audi S6 '99
Audi S8 '01
Audi Sport Quattro '84
Audi Sport Quattro S1 Rally Car '85
Audi Steppenwolf

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Bentley Arnage T '02
Bentley Azure '05
Bentley EXP Speed 8 Race Car '02

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BMW 2002 Race Car
BMW 2002 Turbo '74
BMW 320 Turbo Race Car '78
BMW 323i Coupe
BMW 330i '03
BMW 507 '56
BMW 540
BMW 700 RS Race Car '60
BMW 750iL
BMW 840Ci Sports
BMW LMR Race Car
BMW M coupe '01
BMW M1 '80
BMW M1 Race Car '80
BMW M3 '01
BMW M3 Evo III '90
BMW M3 GTR Race Car '01
BMW M3 GTR Streetversion '02
BMW M5 '01
BMW M5 '94
BMW M6 635 CSi '84
BMW X Coupe Concept
BMW X5 Le Mans Concept '00
BMW Z1 '86
BMW Z3 M Roadster '01
BMW Z4 3.0i '03
BMW Z8 '00
BMW Z9 Concept '99

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Bugatti 16/4 Veyron '02
Bugatti EB Veyron 14-4 Quad Turbo
Bugatti EB 110 GT '94
Bugatti LMP Race Car

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Cadillac Cien Concept '02
Cadillac Eldorado '67
Cadillac Eldorado ETC
Cadillac Evoq Concept '99
Cadillac LMP-02 Race Car '02
Cadillac Steinmetz Catera Concept '99

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Callaway C12-R
Callaway C12-R Race Car '01

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Caterham 21
Caterham 7
Caterham Super 7

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Chevrolet Camaro '69
Chevrolet Camaro 35th Anniversary
Chevrolet Camaro SS '01
Chevrolet Camaro SS '69
Chevrolet Z28 '01
Chevrolet Z28 '77
Chevrolet ZL-1 '69
Chevrolet 2.2 Turbo Concept '02
Chevrolet Z24
Chevrolet SS '68
Chevrolet Corvair '63
Chevrolet Corvette 427 Stingray '69
Chevrolet Corvette 50th Anniversary '03
Chevrolet Corvette Astrovette Concept Car
Chevrolet Corvette C5R '01
Chevrolet Corvette CERV III Concept '90
Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport '63
Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport '96
Chevrolet Corvette Split-window Coupe '63
Chevrolet Corvette XP-830 Mako Shark II Concept '65
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 '03
Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 '93
Chevrolet El Camino SS '69
Chevrolet Impala SS
Chevrolet Malibu Cruiser Concept '01
Chevrolet Monte Carlo DuPont Race Car '01
Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS '01
Chevrolet Nova Concorde '76
Chevrolet SSR Concept '03

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Chrysler 300M Special
Chrysler Atlantic
Chrysler Chronos Concept '98
Chrysler Crossfire '04
Chrysler GT Cruiser Concept
Chrysler LMP Race Car '01

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Citroën C5
Citroën C-Airdream '02
Citroën Saxo 1.6I VTS
Citroën Saxo Rally Car
Citroën Xantia 3.0I V6 Exclusive
Citroën Xantia Rally Car
Citroën Xsara 1.8I 16V Exclusive
Citroën Xsara T4 WRC Rally Car '03
Citroën ZX Raid Car Paris Dakar

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Daewoo Mya
Daewoo No. 1 Concept '96
Daewoo Nubira X

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Daihatsu Copen Concept '01
Daihatsu Feroza '93
Daihatsu Midget II
Daihatsu Mira TR (4WD) '98
Daihatsu Mira TR-XX '90
Daihatsu Move SR-XX (4WD) '97
Daihatsu Opti Club Sports '97
Daihatsu Storia Rally Car
Daihatsu Storia X4 '98

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Datsun 240Z '69
Datsun 260Z '74
Datsun 280Z
Datsun 510 '70

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De Tomaso Mangusta '69
De Tomaso Pantera GT5-S '86

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DMC-12 Delorean '81

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Dodge Challenger R/T Hemi '70
Dodge Charger Daytona 500 Race Car '70
Dodge Chager R/T '69
Dodge Chager R/T Concept '99
Dodge Copperhead Concept '97
Dodge ESX3 Concept
Dodge Hennessey Venom 650R
Dodge Interpid Police Edition
Dodge R/T Race Car '02
Dodge Neon R/T '01
Dodge Neon SRT-4 '03
Dodge Ram SRT-10 '04
Dodge Razor Concept '02
Dodge Stealth R/T Turbo '91
Dodge Stratus Touring Race Car
Dodge Stratus Turbo Concept
Dodge Super8 Hemi Concept
Dodge Venom Concept '94
Dodge Viper ACR '00
Dodge Viper GTS '02
Dodge Viper GTS-R Race Car '98
Dodge Viper SRT-10 '03
Dodge Viper SRT-10 Competition Race Car '03

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Fiat 124 Spyder
Fiat 500
Fiat 600
Fiat 850 Vignale Spyder '65
Fiat Abarth 1000 Race Car
Fiat Barchetta
Fiat Coupe 2.0 20V Turbo Plus '98
Fiat Punto Abarth Rally Car '02
Fiat Punto GT

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Ford 427 Concept '03
Ford Capri
Ford Cortina Rally Car
Ford Cougar '02
Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor
Ford Escort Cosworth RS
Ford Escort Rally Car
Ford F150 SVT Lightning '00
Ford Fairlane '75
Ford Falcon XR6 Turbo
Ford XR8 V8 Supercar
Ford Fiesta Rally Car Concept '02
Ford Focus FR200 Concept '00
Ford Focus Ghia 2.0 '98
Ford Focus RS WRC Rally Car '02
Ford SVT '02
Ford ZX3
Ford GT40 '03
Ford GT40 MK1 Race Car '68
Ford GT70 Race Car '70
Ford GT90 Concept '95
Ford Ka '99
Ford Mondeo ST220
Ford Mondeo Super Touring Race Car '99
Ford Mustang Boss 429 '70
Ford Boss Concept '00
Ford Mustang Cobra R '00
Ford Mustang FR500 Concept '99
Ford Mustang GT '82
Ford Mustang GT '94
Ford Mustang GT Concept '03
Ford Mustang Mach 1 '03
Ford Mustang Mach 1 Fastback '69
Ford Mustang Mach III Concept '93
Ford Mustang Super Stallion Concept '98
Ford Probe GT '95
Ford Puma Rally Car
Ford Puma ST160 '99
Ford RS200 '85
Ford Sierra Cosworth
Ford Sierra RS500
Ford StreetKa '03
Ford Th!nk Concept
Ford Thunderbird '65
Ford Thunderbird Supercharged Concept '03
Ford Torino Race Car
Ford XR8 Xplod Concept '01

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Gillet Vertigo '97
Gillet Vertigo Race Car '98

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Heuliez Pregunta Concept

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Holden Commodore V8 Supercar
Holden HSV HRT 27 '02
Holden Monaro CV8 '02

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Honda Accord Concept '02
Honda Accord Coupe V6 '03
Honda Accord Euro-R '00
Honda Accord SiR-T '98
Honda Accord Type-R Touring Race Car
Honda Accord Wagon 2300VTL 4WD '97
Honda Beat Version Z '94
Honda City Type-Z '02
Honda Civic SiR '98
Honda Civic Type-R '03
Honda Civic Mugen Si '02
Honda Civic R Race Car
Honda Civic Si Concept '02
Honda Civic Vti '93
Honda CRX SiR '89
Honda del Sol LM Edition
Honda Dualnote Concept '01
Honda Fiat W '01
Honda Intergra LM Race Car
Honda Intergra Type-R '02
Honda Jazz '01
Honda Life T-Type '98
Honda Logo TS '98
Honda Mugen SS2200 Concept '00
Honda NSX Castrol Mugen JGTC '00
Honda NSX Coupe '02
Honda NSX Loctite Mugen '01
Honda NSX Takata Dome '03
Honda NSX Mobil 1 '01
Honda NSX Type S Zero '97
Honda NSX-R Concept '01
Honda NSX-R Prototype '01
Honda NSX-R Prototype LM Road Car
Honda Prelude 2.2 Vtec '03
Honda Prelude Si Vtec '91
Honda Prelude SiR S spec '98
Honda RA272 Formula 1 '65
Honda S2000 '01
Honda S2000 GT1
Honda Z Turbo '98

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HSV Commodore
HSV GTS GEN3
HSV Monaro GTS

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Hyundai Accent WRC Rally Car '02
Hyundai Clix Concept '01
Hyundai Tiburon GT V6
Hyundai Tiburon Rally Car

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Infiniti FX45
Infiniti G35 Sport Coupe '03
Infiniti Q45

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Jaguar D-Type Works Race Car '54
Jaguar E-Type S3 '72
Jaguar F-Type Concept '00
Jaguar R-Coupe Concept '01
Jaguar S-Type R
Jaguar XJ220 Race Car
Jaguar XJ series '03
Jaguar XJ220 '93
Jaguar XJR '04
Jaguar XJR-15 Race Car '90
Jaguar XJR-9LM Race Car '88
Jaguar XJR-S V12 Celebration Coupe '88
Jaguar XK180 Concept '00
Jaguar XKR '00
Jaguar XKR Trans-Am Race Car '02
Jaguar X-Type Racing Coupe '02

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Kia Magentis
Kia Rio
Kia Spectra Touring Car

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Koeningsegg CC 8S '02
Koeningsegg CC Concept '98

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Lamborghini 400 GT '66
Lamborghini Countach 25th Anniversary '89
Lamborghini Diablo JGTC
Lamborghini Diablo VT 6.0 SE '01
Lamborghini Espada 400 GTE S2 '69
Lamborghini Gallardo
Lamborghini Miura P400 '68
Lamborghini Murcielago '02
Lamborghini Urraco P300 '76

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Lancia 037 Rally Evo 2 Rally Car '83
Lancia Beta Monte Carlo Race Car '81
Lancia Carcerano Gran Turismo Concept '02
Lancia Delta S4 Rally Car '85
Lancia Stratos '72
Lancia Stratos Rally Car
Lancia Thema 8.32

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Lexus GS300 '96
Lexus IS300 '02
Lexus IS300 Sportcross '02
Lexus IS430 Concept
Lexus SC300 '96
Lexus SC430 '01
Lexus SC430 Pace Car '02

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Lincoln LS
Lincoln MK VII
Lincoln MK9 Coupe Concept '01

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Lister Le Mans '90
Lister Storm GT2 '99

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Lotus 11 S2 Le Mans '57
Lotus 18 Formula 1 '60
Lotus 340R
Lotus 46 Europa S1 '66
Lotus 49B Formula 1 '70
Lotus Carlton '89
Lotus Elan S2 '64
Lotus S2 '90
Lotus Elan S4 Sprint '71
Lotus Elise '02
Lotus Elise 190
Lotus Elise GT1
Lotus Elise II Type 25 '02
Lotus Elite '63
Lotus Esprit GT2
Lotus Esprit S1 '76
Lotus Esprit Sport 350 '99
Lotus X180R Race Car '91
Lotus Europa Race Car
Lotus Exige '00
Lotus M250 Concept '00
Lotus Sport Elise Race Car '00

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Maserati 3200GT
Maserati 320S Concept '01
Maserati 5000 GT Touring '59
Maserati BiTurbo Si '87
Maserati Quattroporte IV '94
Maserati Sebring '62

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Mazda MX-6 GT '91
Mazda 323 4WD Rally Car
Mazda 323 MPS Concept '01
Mazda 626
Mazda 767B Race Car '89
Mazda 787B Race Car '91
Mazda AZ-1 A-Spec
Mazda Cosmo Concept '03
Mazda Eunos Cosmo 20B Type-E CCS '94
Mazda Lantis Coupe 2000 Type-R '93
Mazda Mazdaspeed Protégé '02
Mazda Miata V-Special '93
Mazda MX Sportif '03
Mazda MX-3 '90
Mazda MX-5 '89
Mazda MX-5 '98
Mazda MX-5 1.8i '00
Mazda MX-5 MPS Concept '01
Mazda RX-01
Mazda RX-2 '70
Mazda RX-3 '71
Mazda RX-4
Mazda RX-7 '76
Mazda RX-7 GTUs '89
Mazda RX-7 RE Amemiya Race Car
Mazda RX-7 Spirit R '02
Mazda RX-7 Type RS '98
Mazda RX-7 Type RZ '00
Mazda RX-8 '02
Mazda RX-8 Type S '03
Mazda RX-8 LM Race Car
Mazda RX-7 SAvanna GT-Turbo (SA22C) '83
Mazda Xedos Super Touring Race Car

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MCC Smart ForTwo
MCC Smart Roadster Coupe

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McLaren F1 GTR FINA '97

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Mercedes-Benz CLK GTR
Mercedes-Benz W196 Formula 1 '56
Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.5-16 Evolution II '90
Mercedes-Benz 300SEL 6.3 '68
Mercedes-Benz 300SL Gullwing '56
Mercedes-Benz 380SL Convertible '80
Mercedes-Benz 450 SLC Rally Car '78
Mercedes-Benz AMG A32K '02
Mercedes-Benz AMG C55
Mercedes-Benz AMG CL65 '03
Mercedes-Benz AMG E55
Mercedes-Benz AMG SL55 '03
Mercedes-Benz AMG S63 '01
Mercedes-Benz AMG SL73 Roadster '95
Mercedes-Benz AMG SLK32 '01
Mercedes-Benz C112 Concept
Mercedes-Benz C230 Sport Coupe
Mercedes-Benz C9 Race Car
Mercedes-Benz CIII '69
Mercedes-Benz CLE Concept
Mercedes-Benz CLK DTM Race Car '02
Mercedes-Benz CLK GTR Super Sport '02
Mercedes-Benz CLR '99
Mercedes-Benz SLR

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Mercury Comet
Mercury Cougar '99
Mercury Cougar Eliminator '70
Mercury Marauder '03

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Merkur XR4Ti '87

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MG EX257 LMP
MG TF Xpower 500 '02
MG ZT XPower 500

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Mini Cooper 1.3i
Mini Cooper Race Car
Mini Cooper S Works '02

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Mitsubishi 3000GT '92
Mitsubishi 3000GT Twin Turbo '92
Mitsubishi 3000GT Twin Turbo '95
Mitsubishi 3000GT Twin Turbo '99
Mitsubishi 3000GT LM
Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 '00
Mitsubishi Colt '78
Mitsubishi Colt SR 4X '02
Mitsubishi CZ3 Tarmac '01
Mitsubishi Eclipse '02
Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX '97
Mitsubishi FTO GP Version R '97
Mitsubishi Galant GT-Z '03
Mitsubishi Galant Super VR-4 '98
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution '92
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution II '94
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution II Rally Car '94
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution III GSR '95
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution III Rally Car '95
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IV GSR '96
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IV Rally Car '97
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution Rally Car '93
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution V GSR '98
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution V Rally Car '98
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution V RS '98
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI GSR '99
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI GSR Tommy Makkinen Edition
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI Rally Car '99
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI RS '99
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VII GSR '01
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VII Rally Car '01
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VII RS '01
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII '03
Mitsubishi Lancer GS-R '85
Mitsubishi Legnum Super VR4 '98
Mitsubishi Mine's Lancer Evolution VI '00
Mitsubishi Mirage Asti RX-R '98
Mitsubishi Mirage Cyborg R '92
Mitsubishi Pajero Evolution '03
Mitsubishi RPM 7000 Concept
Mitsubishi Starion Turbo '82
Mitsubishi Taeivon Trampio FTO

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Morgan Aero 8 '02
Morgan Aero 8 GT Race Car '02

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Nismo 270R '94
Nismo 350Z Concept '02
Nismo 400R '97

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Nissan MM '01 (Micra Concept)
Nissan 200SX '96
Nissan 300ZX '90
Nissan 300ZX Version R 2by2 Twin Turbo '98
Nissan 300ZX Version S 2 seater Twin Turbo '94
Nissan 300ZX Version S 2seater Twin Turbo '98
Nissan 300ZX Z-Tune '03
Nissan 350Z Gran Turismo Aero '02
Nissan 350Z Razo Version '01
Nissan Altima 3.5 SE
Nissan Blue Bird 1600
Nissan Cedric
Nissan Cefiro
Nissan Cima
Nissan GT-R Concept '01
Nissan GT-R Concept LM
Nissan March Super Turbo '89
Nissan March 12c '03
Nissan Maxima '04
Nissan Mid4 Concept '85
Nissan Mine's Skyline GT-RN1 Vspec(R34) '00
Nissan MM R (Micra R)
Nissan Nismo GT-R LM Road Car (R33) '95
Nissan Nismo GT-R Race Car
Nissan NP35 '92
Nissan Primera 2.0Te '90
Nissan Primera GT Race Car '99
Nissan Pulsar Gti-R '91
Nissan Pulsar VZ-R N1 '97
Nissan R390 GT1 Race Car '98
Nissan R390 GT1 Road Car '98
Nissan R89C Race Car '89
Nissan Sentra SE-R Vspec '02
Nissan Sileighty
Nissan Silhouette
Nissan Silvia C-West Razo '00
Nissan Silvia K's (S14) '96
Nissan Silvia K's Aero SE Sports Package (S14) '98
Nissan Silvia Spec R Aero (S15)
Nissan Skyline 2000 GTR '69
Nissan Skyline 25GT Turbo (R34) '98
Nissan Skyline 300GT '01
Nissan Skyline Blitz GT-R R348 '99
Nissan Skyline Calsonic GT-R '00
Nissan Skyline Gran Turismo GT-R V Spec (R34) Pace Car
Nissan Skyline GT-R '70
Nissan Skyline GT-R Autotech Version 40th Anniversary (R33) '97
Nissan Skyline GT-R M Spec 34 '01
Nissan Skyline GT-R Nismo (R32) '90
Nissan SkylineGT-R Nur Edition
Nissan Skyline GT-R Vspec (R32) '93
Nissan Skyline GT-R Vspec (R33) '97
Nissan Skyline GT-R Vspec (R34) '99
Nissan Skyline GT-R Vspec II (R32) '94
Nissan Skyline GT-R Vspec II (R34) '00
Nissan Skyline GTS25 Type S (R32) '91
Nissan Skyline GTS-4 (R32) '91
Nissan Skyline GTS-R (R31) '87
Nissan Skyline HKS Drag Car
Nissan Skyline Loctite Zexel GT-R '00
Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R LM Race Car '95
Nissan Skyline RS-X Turbo Intercooler (DR3) '84
Nissan Stagea 25t RS Four V '98
Nissan Stagea Autech Version 260RS '98
Nissan Stillen 300 GTZ '93
Nissan Sunny B110
Nissan Xanavi Hiroto GT-R '01

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Oldsmobile Alero OSV Concept '00
Oldsmobile Aurora GTS Race Car
Oldsmobile Toronado '67

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Opel Ascona
Opel Astra SRi 2.0i 16V
Opel Astra V8 Coupe Race Car '02
Opel Astra Xtreme Concept '01
Opel Calibra DTM Race CAr
Opel Calibra Turbo '91
Opel Corsa GSi OPC
Opel Corsa Sport 1.6i 16V
Opel GT
Opel Manta
Opel Speedster '00
Opel Tigra 1.6i
Opel Vectra 2.0 16V
Opel Vectra Super Touring Race Car

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Pagani Zonda C12 '99
Pagani Zonda C12-S 7.3 '02

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Panoz AIV Roadster
Panoz Esperante '01
Panoz GTR
Panoz Le Mans Racer '01
Panoz LMP 07 '01

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Peugeot 106 1.6 S16
Peugeot 106 Rally Car '94
Peugeot 205 T16 Rally Car '85
Peugeot 206 GTi '00
Peugeot 307
Peugeot 206 Rally Car
Peugeot 405 T16 Vatanen Pikes Peak Car
Peugeot 406 3.0 V6 Coupe
Peugeot 406 Super Touring Car
Peugeot 607 Feline Concept '00
Peugeot 905 LM Race Car '90
Peugeot C60 Courage (team Pescarolo)
Peugeot Oxia Concept

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Plymouth GTX
Plymouth Hemi Cuda '70
Plymouth Pronto Cruiser Concept '98
Plymouth Pronto Spyder Concept '98
Plymouth Prowler '00
Plymouth Road Runner
Plymouth Superbird

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Pontiac Fiero SE '84
Pontiac Firebird Formula 400 '70
Pontiac Firebird Trans Am WS6 '02
Pontiac G6 Concept '03
Pontiac Grand Prix G-Froce Concept '02
Pontiac GTO '04
Pontiac GTO Judge '70
Pontiac Rageous Concept '97
Pontiac Solstice Coupe '02
Pontiac Sunfire Touring Race Car

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Renault 5 Turbo '84
Renault 5 Turbo Rally Car
Renault Clio Cup Race Car
Renault Clio Williams
Renault Espace F1 Concept '95
Renault Laguna Touring Race Car '99
Renault Megane Rally Car
Renault Clio Sport V6 Evo II '03

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Rolls-Royce Corniche Convertible '00
Rolls-Royce Phantom '03

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Rover 25
Rover 45
Rover 75
Rover ZS

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RUF 3.4 '87
RUF 3400S '00
RUF RUF 911 Turbo R '01
RUF BTR 3.8 '93
RUF CTR-2 Sport '97
RUF RGT '00
RUF Turbo R '98

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Saab 9-3 Viggen Coupe '99
Saab 9-3 Viggen Pikes Peak Rally Car ‘00
Saab 9X Concept ‘01

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Saleen Mustang S-281 ‘00
Saleen Mustang S-351 ‘99
Saleen S7 ’00
Saleen S7R ‘01

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Saturn SC2 Concept '01
Saturn SCX Concept '01

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Seat Formula Concept ‘99
Seat Ibiza Cupra R
Seat Leon Cupra R ‘01
Seat Salsa Concept ‘00

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Shelby Cobra 427 ‘67
Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe Race Car ‘64
Shelby Mustang GT 500 KR ‘68
Shelby Mustang GT350
Shelby Series 1 ‘98

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Skoda Fabia RS
Skoda Octavia RS
Skoda Octavia WRC Rally Car ‘01
Skoda Tudor Concept ‘02

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Spoon Civic Type R ‘98
Spoon Fit ‘03
Spoon S2000 ‘00
Spoon S2000 Race Car ‘00

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Spyker C8 Double 12
Spyker C8 Laviolette ‘01

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Subaru 2.5 RS sedan
Subaru Alccione SVX Version L ‘95
Subaru B11S Concept ‘03
Subaru Fleet-X Concept ‘99
Subaru Impreza 2.5 WRX STi
Subaru Impreza 22B STi ‘98
Subaru Impreza Electra One Concept ‘99
Subaru Impreza P1 ‘00
Subaru Impreza Rally Car ‘01
Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX STi Version III ‘96
Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX STi Version VI ‘00
Subaru Impreza Wagon WRX STi Version III ‘96
Subaru Impreza WRX STi Type R Version V ‘98
Subaru Legacy B4 Blitzen ‘02
Subaru Legacy Touring Sports RS ‘93
Subaru Legacy Touring Wagon GT-B ‘98
Subaru Outback Limited ‘01
Subaru Preo RS ‘98
Subaru Rex Supercharger VX ‘90
Subaru Vivio RX-RA ‘97

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Suzuki Aerio SX
Suzuki Artworks RS-Z ‘98
Suzuki Capuccino ‘98
Suzuki Concept-S ‘02
Suzuki Cultus Pikes Peak Rally Car
Suzuki Escudo Pikes Peak Rally Car ‘96
Suzuki Ev-Sport Concept ‘99
Suzuki GSX-R 4 Concept ‘01
Suzuki Hayabusa Racecar Concept
Suzuki Kei S ‘98
Suzuki Wagon R RR ‘98

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Tommykaira (leading Edge) ZZ-II
Tommykaira (leading Edge) ZZ-S ‘95

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Toyota 2000 GT ‘67
Toyota 88C Race Car ‘88
Toyota Altezza RS200 ‘98
Toyota Aristo V300 ‘97
Toyota bB 1.5 2WD X Version '00
Toyota Ist 1.5RS
Toyota MR-S Autobacs Apex ‘00
Toyota MR-S Blitz ‘00
Toyota Camry SE ‘98
Toyota Supra Castrol Tom's ‘01
Toyota Celica GT ‘92
Toyota Celica GT-Four (ST165) ‘88
Toyota Celica GT-Four (ST205) ‘95
Toyota Celica GT-S ‘00
Toyota Celica Pikes Peak Special Rally Car ‘97
Toyota Celica Supra II ‘83
Toyota Celica TRD Sports M ‘00
Toyota Celica Ultimate Concept ‘00
Toyota Chaser ‘03
Toyota Corolla Levin BZR (A111) ‘98
Toyota Corolla Levin GT-Apex (AE86) ‘85
Toyota Corolla Rally Car ‘99
Toyota FXS Concept ‘01
Toyota Gardena GT-T ‘97
Toyota GT-One (TS020) Road Car ‘99
Toyota GT-One Race Car ‘99
Toyota Mark II Tourer S ‘92
Toyota Matrix XRS ‘02
Toyota MR2 1600G-Limited Super Charger (AW11) ‘86
Toyota MR2 GT-S ‘98
Toyota MR2 Targa ‘90
Toyota MR2 TTE Concept ‘01
Toyota POD Concept ‘01
Toyota Prius hybrid car ‘03
Toyota Prius Rally Car ‘02
Toyota RSC Rally Car ‘01
Toyota Scion ccX
Toyota Soarer 2.5 GT-T VVT-i ‘96
Toyota Solara ‘02
Toyota Starlet 3 door (KP61) ‘82
Toyota Starlet 3 door Turbo S (EP71) ‘87
Toyota Starlet Glanza V ‘98
Toyota Supra Esso Ultraflo Race Car ‘01
Toyota Supra WoodOne Race Car ‘03
Toyota Supra GT Turbo Limited (MA70) ‘89
Toyota Supra HKS Drag Car
Toyota Supra RZ ‘97
Toyota Supra Turbo ‘89
Toyota Supra TwinTurbo-R (JZA70) ‘91
Toyota Supra Veilside Limited ‘99
Toyota Vitz F ‘99

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TRD 3000GT

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TVR Cerbera 4.2 ‘00
TVR Cerbera 4.5 ‘00
TVR Cerbera LM Race Car
TVR Cerbera Speed 12 ‘00
TVR Cerbera Speed 6
TVR Chimaera 500 ‘00
TVR Griffith 500s ‘00
TVR T350C ‘02
TVR Tasmin ‘81
TVR Tuscan ‘70
TVR Tuscan S ‘01
TVR Vixen 2500M ‘73

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Ultima GTR ‘00
Ultima Spyder ‘00

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Veuxhall Vectra FIA Super Touring Race Car ‘99
Veuxhall VX220 ‘00
Veuxhall VX220 Turbo ’03

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Vector M12 ‘96
Vector M12 LM
Vector W8 ‘91
Vector WX3 Concept ‘92

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Venturi Atlantique 300 ‘95
Venturi Atlantique 400GT ‘95
Venturi Atlantique LM Race Car
Venturi Grand Prix Concept ‘02

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Volkswagen 1-Litre Concept ‘02
Volkswagen Beetle ‘64
Volkswagen Corrado ‘93
Volkswagen Golf GTI 25th Anniversary ‘02
Volkswagen Golf III GTi VR6 ‘95
Volkswagen Golf IV 2.3 V5 ‘00
Volkswagen Golf R32 ‘02
Volkswagen Golf Race Car
Volkswagen Karmen Gia
Volkswagen Lupo GTI
Volkswagen New Beetle 1.8 Turbo ‘98
Volkswagen New Beetle 2.0
Volkswagen New Beetle RSi ‘00
Volkswagen Oettinger Jetta 1.8T ‘00
Volkswagen Passat W8
Volkswagen Phaeton W12 ‘02
Volkswagen Super Beetle ‘78

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Volvo 340
Volvo C70 ‘96
Volvo S40 Race Car ‘99
Volvo S60 R ‘03
Volvo S70 R
Volvo S80 T6

[ultimategamer2004]

Yeah i think it looks pretty real all the cars that would come to mind so i think thats is probably real nicly ilistrated by Nick there.

[Fats]

Good news for all boy racers - an interview with Polyphony Digital president Kazunori Yamauchi has revealed that the PSP version of Gran Turismo 4 is likely to be a full port of the PS2 game, making it a potentially exciting racing prospect for the handheld.

Speaking to Sony's Japanese website PS World about the forthcoming racing instalment, likely to be named GT4 Mobile, Yamauchi said: "As far as volume is concerned, because we're using the GT4 name, we're of course envisaging the same level of volume [in the PSP version] as the PS2 GT4."

He also attempted to diffuse any lingering preconceptions that the PSP would be 'child's play', adding: "The PSP is a portable game machine, so many will think is used to play only simple games. Say what you will, it's a new generation of portable hardware, with performance that stands up against the PS2.

He finally concluded with the promise that "...given that we're already making the GT4 systems on the PS2 hardware, we will probably end up porting them to the PSP."

Think about it - a fast night-time ride through the glitzy environs of Vegas, all compacted onto a handheld with fluidity, speed and excitement intact. It's a promise that, if realised, should reaffirm the power of the new next-gen handhelds, which has certainly had us quietly excited since E3.

Whether that will make it quite as much fun as GBA Mario Kart though is another matter.

As for the PS2 version of GT4 itself, Yamauchi said that the game was roughly 75 percent complete, with several new unannounced courses still in the pipeline. The game is set to release around November this year.

Needless to say, there are no confirmed release dates announced for the PSP version as yet, although our (rough) guess is that it will be some time close to the console's 2005 launch in Europe.

www.computerandvideogames.com

[richjwild]

nick that list- GT doesnt have lamborghinis in, does it?

[ultimategamer2004]

The list that Nick just posted above you does yeah thats if you are on about that.

[NickSCFC]

nick that list- GT doesnt have lamborghinis in, does it?
Well it does now...



according to the list anyway.

[NickSCFC]

Larger box image. It's basically the same Amaray case used for PlayStation 2, Xbox and Gamecube games and DVD videos, but in a white transparent colour.

http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/513/513565/e3-2004-gt4-psp-is-real-200405110236658.jpg

[ultimategamer2004]

Yeah basicallly the same buut room for 2 UMDS 1 above theother but thats obivious they are smaller.

[NickSCFC]

Has to be the only reason for putting such small game disks into such large cases.

[PsP_will_rock]

nick in your track list i noticed Super Speedway isnt there but somone told me it would be in GT4

[ultimategamer2004]

Well no but i dont think that anyone knows all the tracks that will be in the final game.

[gamingmonkey2004]

im glad to see Polyphon (or w/e) got the permision for all those cars. nice wait for it and its worth it. Im glad to see a SVT lighning most of all..i know for sure ill have that one. Im also glad there are so many Skylines. what is it 24? or 23? something like that. oo boy i saved my Bestbuy giftcirtificates for that game...but on PS2. anyway. it will be ironic accualy. i mean im on a roadtrip and im playing a car game..hilarious...um...sort of

[NickSCFC]

Thing is, how many cars do you think you'll actually use? Usually you just find one you like and then just stick to it.

[sworder]

I think they have too much cars. GT4 has cars you'll never use.

[Illmatic]

Maybe, but still, GT4 gives you a very wide range of options.A car to fit everyones taste, no matter how good/bad.

I don't think there's a such thing as too many cars in a racing game, just like too many characters in a fighting game, I could be wrong, but i think it depends on the quality of cars.

[ultimategamer2004]

I would have to agree no matter how many cars there can never be enough cars seen as ppl have different tastes.

[gamingmonkey2004]

yes i just hope there will be more cheap cars to start with because i remeber there was very little starting cars in the first one. i remeber i got the miata because it was hte only car that was cheap and was good. also with more cars there is also many cars that are expensive and some that you are unable to get. the annoying ---- sign really pissed me off alot and im like I WANT IT! but yes with more cars...and truck! anything can apeal to you. i mean you want a jap ricer or a american brute? its all in the player. and nick is right. there is no such thing as to many cars

[NickSCFC]

I think you were given a choice of 6 manufacturers at the start of the original Gran Turismo

[kevindenoyette]

I hope they implement the F1 cars and drag cars as well. The polyphony f1 race car in gt3 owns all.

[alternate_ending]

There were far more than 6 manufacturers in the original, and it was cool, because you could choose to go to a used car dealership or new car dealership. Then you get your 1992 Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo with a 4th stage turbo kit and racing intercooler, get some weight reduction, maybe some racing tires, and then best of all, you could put all those stickers on it and make it look like you were sponsored!!!
I miss the good old days

[kevindenoyette]

yeah, the racing modification was the best. my viper looked so pimp with those stripes, now you have to go through a shitload of trouble to get the team oreca viper. all golds in amateur league? jesus.

[gamingmonkey2004]

yeah, the racing modification was the best. my viper looked so pimp with those stripes, now you have to go through a shitload of trouble to get the team oreca viper. all golds in amateur league? jesus.

yea i didnt care much for the unlocking the cars then paying for them...how much did they cost? because i got tired of trying and just got a gameshark and made it 1 buck on GT3

[malfranco]

800 cars on the PSP too?

most likely no, 1.8 gigs is not alot to work with when your talking about a double CD Ps2 game. the Ps2 disc hold 4.7GBs

:lol: You are indeed right about the space issue in terms of dvd verses umd. However this is not such a disadvantage as you might think because the PSP screen is so much smaller the graphics do not have to be so detail thus the game will be noway near as big.

Example: Playstation 1 graphics look rubbish on a big screen however stick the same game on a small portable and it appears a lot more detailed that will be the same for PSP games and movies.

[NickSCFC]

Exactly, Polyphony wouldn't bother clogging up the CPU with tiny little texture details that would be too small to see on the little screen anyway.

[gamingmonkey2004]

yea like the side view mirrors accually refectling something i think they wont get to detailed on little things but the majority of the main things your looking at will be detailed nicely

[DappaDizzle]

i think this is the most detailed psp game ive seen thus far


Dappa Out 8)

[NickSCFC]

You haven't seen it yet.

[DappaDizzle]

nick do u write post for no reason i mean the screens u twat lol just kidding

[Fats]

Sarcasm, the Internet's biggest enemy.

[DappaDizzle]

i no man lits team up and kill it lol

[solidus]

How would the gameplay be seeing the controls aren't pressure sensitive. It wouldn't be much of a driving sim now would it... i played prologue and i noticed how much this game makes use of the pressure sensitivity as do alot of other games.

[Matt]

Yea, Prologue uses it a lot more than GT3 did. I'm sure it will still be good.

[DappaDizzle]

Gran Turismo 4 Mobile Update

Just a few tantalizing words on the PSP game everyone wants.


October 27, 2004 - Sony Computer Entertainment has provided a tiny update on the status of Gran Turismo 4 Mobile. There's a bit of bad news (or expected news), first off. Those who had the absurd idea that this game would be released to Japan before the end of the year are going to have to wait a bit longer than expected. GT4 Mobile is scheduled to hit Japan in Spring of 2005. Of course, given SCE's history with the series, some form of delay should be expected beyond this date.

A few vague hints at game have also been given out. Developer Polyphony Digital seems to be going for something a bit different this time around, apparently aiming to reform the game at its core in order to provide something that's not available in the home. Those peeved about the lack of network play in the home release of GT4 will be pleased to learn that GT4 Mobile will make use of the PSP's Wireless Lan capabilities to allow for races against real life opponents. Specifics beyond this have yet to be revealed.
As with the PS2, we expect Ridge Racer to come out first and give us a taste of PSP racing, then Gran Turismo to follow (a ways later) with the main course. Stay tuned for more on GT4 Mobile as we learn it.

[speedis]

How would the gameplay be seeing the controls aren't pressure sensitive. It wouldn't be much of a driving sim now would it... i played prologue and i noticed how much this game makes use of the pressure sensitivity as do alot of other games.

Well, atleast the analog one is sensitive..

What does the PSP's analog controller feel like?
Like the PS2's analog controller. It has the same sensitivity (resolution).
"the PSP feels comfortable in the hand, with all the buttons, and the analogue thumb pad, falling right into place. We actually found the analogue thumb pad to be perfectly situated for making our pointer fingers fall onto the shoulder buttons"
Source: Techjapan (http://www.techjapan.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid= 612)
Source2: IGN (http://psp.ign.com/articles/549/549978p1.html)

[solidus]

Yeah i know but i wasn't really talking about the analog stick or even the D-pad. I was talking about acceleration, brake, etc.
When you slightly press the accelerator button you accelerate slowly but without pressure sensitive buttons you would accelerate to top speed no mather how hard you press the accelerator button.

[98GTi-VR6]

Gran Turismo 4 Mobile Update

Those peeved about the lack of network play in the home release of GT4 will be pleased to learn that GT4 Mobile will make use of the PSP's Wireless Lan capabilities to allow for races against real life opponents. Specifics beyond this have yet to be revealed.


This doesn't look like it means online, just via a direct Wifi connection between 2 or more PSP's. :(

[kevindenoyette]

i thought the buttons only had 3 pressure sensitive rates? or am i wrong. anyways, that doesn't matter one bit to me, i always press my buttons hard. or just tap em

[DappaDizzle]

since this a direct port i will proberly get it for psp .. so i can play it via wi-fi

[98GTi-VR6]

since this a direct port i will proberly get it for psp .. so i can play it via wi-fi

But will it be just like a LAN or direct connect game?

Or will it be like SOCOM2 on PS2 where you find different races online and join up and race?

C

[PseudoChron]

http://news.spong.com/x?art=7971
Gran Turismo 4 US Version Goes Gold – PSP GT Details Emerge
More fallout for the GT conference inside
Polyphony has announced that the US and Japanese versions of Gran Turismo 4 have gone gold, with all final bug testing ironed out. The final versions will be sent to production facilities ready for printing within days according to Polyphony head Kazunori Yamauchi.

He went on to make some of the most detailed comments to date concerning the mysterious Gran Turismo Mobile for PSP, about which little aside from a few screens shots has been seen.

“The PSP Gran Turismo will be a little smaller in comparison with the Gran Turismo 4, but it won't be any different from the Gran Turismo series that everyone knows. I think that the key trait of the PSP is that it can be carried around and used for communication. Communication between players and consoles will probably be one of the key aspects of the console and the game.”

For reference, GT4 hits Japan on December 4th and the US on the 14th in the same month. PAL copies are expected on 23rd February 2005.

[amod20002004]

Wait a minute; this means PSP version of GT will be short against console version of the game.

[gizmo]

Wait a minute; this means PSP version of GT will be short against console version of the game.

Of course, a UMD disc is only 1,8 GB compared to the 4,7 GB of a DVD disc. Still sounds great to me, a portable version of GT4 :D

[98GTi-VR6]

Wait a minute; this means PSP version of GT will be short against console version of the game.

Of course, a UMD disc is only 1,8 GB compared to the 4,7 GB of a DVD disc. Still sounds great to me, a portable version of GT4 :D

Unless they give us GT4 Mobile on 2 UMD's

-C

[Wobbleshot]

Wait a minute; this means PSP version of GT will be short against console version of the game.

Of course, a UMD disc is only 1,8 GB compared to the 4,7 GB of a DVD disc. Still sounds great to me, a portable version of GT4 :D

Not by much. If we assume the PS2 version was designed for standard TV resolution of ~640x480, then the PSP version would be a little more than 2x smaller from the start. So the UMD version would be short by 0.55Gb.

Regardless I do not expect GT4 Mobile to be an exact copy of GT4 for PS2. I am sure they will have to cut something.

(of course I have no real idea if any of the above is correct) :wink:

[kamikaze_ops]

Hey just wanted to tell you guys that the release of GT4 in Japan has been delayed.
So instead of releasing it on December 3rd, its going to be December 28th 2004. :(
They could not finish the game as planned. There are still a few adjustments to be made.
The game will have 80 manufacturers 700+ cars with 90 courses as planned. :D
this sucks because im gettin mine from japan

[98GTi-VR6]

you have a link confirming that?

C

[kamikaze_ops]

well i do have a link but its in japanese. I got it off of www.jp.playstation.com so it should be accurate since it is the official site.

[Fats]

I posted that news in the GT4 thread...

[senas8]

Lets just face it..the PSP is the new IPOD of portable video games...Period.

[Gordon Litch]

Lets just face it..the PSP is the new IPOD of portable video games...Period.

Err, what has that to do with this topic?

[Danji]

Nothing whatsoever..

I just grabbed me a copy of GT3 from Gamespot for $4.75 WITH tax. Great deal since I've been playing it since I got it three days ago. I would be more than happy if the PSP version was as deep as GT3 seeing as how it would be portable.

[Black Ops]

Nothing whatsoever..

I just grabbed me a copy of GT3 from Gamespot for $4.75 WITH tax. Great deal since I've been playing it since I got it three days ago. I would be more than happy if the PSP version was as deep as GT3 seeing as how it would be portable.

You mean Gamestop. And thats pretty cheap. It is quite a old game though. Good game still. I haven't gotten into racing much. I will once I get a PSP.

[gamingmonkey2004]

Nothing whatsoever..

I just grabbed me a copy of GT3 from Gamespot for $4.75 WITH tax. Great deal since I've been playing it since I got it three days ago. I would be more than happy if the PSP version was as deep as GT3 seeing as how it would be portable.

heh i traded mine in for like 2 bucks or something small like that. ive said the story a million times so ill pass on explaining it again.
the mobile GT$ would be nice, to like port cars from PS2 over to the PSP like your file or something...still wanna know if it will be the exact same..i bet they will just cut some of the A class races because face it not to many people race those

[DappaDizzle]

i hope their will be like a double pack gt4 and gt4 mobile for like 10-20 bucks extra

[gamingmonkey2004]

i hope their will be like a double pack gt4 and gt4 mobile for like 10-20 bucks extra

thats a very good idea! but the GT4 is going in a bundle with the PStwo...well atleast thats all ive seen so far...keep your fingers crossed!

[DappaDizzle]

i hope their will be like a double pack gt4 and gt4 mobile for like 10-20 bucks extra

thats a very good idea! but the GT4 is going in a bundle with the PStwo...well atleast thats all ive seen so far...keep your fingers crossed!

i shall

[barney_2k]

looks brilliant,

i still want more details on the multiplayer stuff though

any1 know a confirmed jap release date?

cheers

Barney

[EMAGDNIM]

does anyone have the import release date for it :?:

[ZYirAH]

Cool thread. Thanks for all the info. All I've heard about a Japanese release date is spring 05 if we're lucky. It's still not listed here (http://www.playstation.jp/psp/software.html).

[Black Ops]

Cool. I might actually buy GT4 then. That would be a first. I never bought just played the GT series. Not a huge racing fan.

[gamingmonkey2004]

Cool. I might actually buy GT4 then. That would be a first. I never bought just played the GT series. Not a huge racing fan.

niether am i, but with GT games i like to pop it in once in awhile just to relax.

[senas8]

I read somewhere that GT4 is dual layer ..9Gig's if I remember right...how ...well what a dual layer for the UMD disk? 1.8Gig's isn't going to fly....anyone know? Dual Layer for the UMD..what 4Gig's ...Yeah I can see that for the size psp is.

[gamingmonkey2004]

i dont think it will be the exact same...or they will make two discs

[EMAGDNIM]

I have no clue how they are going to pull it off but from the press release of GT4 for PS2, they said that it was similar to the PS2 version...I guess they are going to take out arcade mode or something...

[gamingmonkey2004]

yea have just story mode and less cars...i guess

[barney_2k]

actaully i think i read on IGN that the UMD has 1.8 on a dual layer disc,

i cant help but start to think that on every game series that is being ported to PSP disc space seems to be an issue

it will be interesting to see how it is dealt with in the long run.

Barney

[Black Ops]

yea have just story mode and less cars...i guess

That would be cool.

[EMAGDNIM]

Well, if they do manage to make the discs dual layer, they would still need to take out stuff...no worry :wink:

[amod20002004]

I think they will reduce some no of cars. Texture detail will also get reduced. Let’s see how they are going to handle it.

[barney_2k]

well i am sure that they will somehow get round the space issue and still make a great game

i dont know why everyone is so worried GT4 is a HUGE game

even if GT4 portable was only half as big, it would still be a long game, with lots of replay value, and loatsa things to unlock

Barney

[EMAGDNIM]

All this GT4 talk is getting me excited...I ordered an import verion of it for PS2...I know...I have to slow down :shock:

[Black Ops]

I want my GT4 now!!!

[barney_2k]

dont we all!

i think its looking great at the moment.

i still want more details on multiplayer though.

Barney

[gamingmonkey2004]

well i am sure that they will somehow get round the space issue and still make a great game

i dont know why everyone is so worried GT4 is a HUGE game

even if GT4 portable was only half as big, it would still be a long game, with lots of replay value, and loatsa things to unlock

Barney

well i could see maybe two UMDs you know "Story" mode continues on the second UMD and it also has Arcade on it. Just an idea :lol:

[barney_2k]

maybe

but it would be a bit costly

and sony are not in the best financial system on the PSP front

so i duno

Barney

[gamingmonkey2004]

it costs like 52 cents to make a single UMD. :roll: im pretty sure tehy could get their money back from selling the game.

[barney_2k]

those 52cents add up when you produce hundreds of thousands of games

Barney

[gamingmonkey2004]

its just an extra disc. back in the PSone FF era there were like 4 discs. i dont think two UMDs would be that costly. They could always sell GT4 a little more. Because if the games are like 39$ they could sell it for 49$ or something. Seriously it wouldnt be that big of a deal.

[barney_2k]

yeh id be willing to pay extra for GT4

but many people may not, and they will surely loose a lot of sales through the price increase

therefore they will in the long term loose money on GT4

Barney

[gamingmonkey2004]

but they really dont have to raise the price. Because the sells would be very high because its a GT title. And there really couldnt be anyway theyd loose money. Maybe not get as much with one. But with one disc it has less and people may not like that. See what i mean? So they are split. Save money or make everyone happy with a tad bit less profit

[EMAGDNIM]

A price increase would only really upset a small amount of people. I know that there are a lot of GT fans that would pay what ever the price is just to PLAY the game...GT4 just got released and you should see the amount of people paying extra just to IMPORT it. An extra $10-$30 is not going to bust a lot of peoples banks...

[barney_2k]

yeh i suppose

hopefully they will find a way to make it a great game, but still a big game

i would sure be willing to part with a few extra ££

Barney

[gamingmonkey2004]

GT4 is out? i dont think so. Maybe im wrong though but i thought it was delayed until 2005

[DappaDizzle]

not for japan

[gamingmonkey2004]

what!? :shock: i thought it was coming out in America before Japan. Are you talking about Gran Turismo 4 Proludge(think i spelled that wrong)

[98GTi-VR6]

what!? :shock: i thought it was coming out in America before Japan. Are you talking about Gran Turismo 4 Proludge(think i spelled that wrong)

nope, Japan release was always going to be first.

[smileyboy]

where can i preorder this game. (other than lik-sang) :?

[EMAGDNIM]

GT4 is out? i dont think so. Maybe im wrong though but i thought it was delayed until 2005

Err...Ive got the Japanese verion sitting infront of me right now. It was released a little before the new year...

I can tell you that its FREAKING SWEET!!! I love the fact that its HDTV compatible (Im running it at 1080i on my HD Sony TV)...

[import_tuner]

Yep, GT4 is out in Japan. I wish I bought it when I had the chance..... oh well, I'll wait until it comes out in the US and the PSP release.... :)

[ZYirAH]

where can i preorder this game. (other than lik-sang) :?

Play-Asia is similar to Lik-Sang (Hong Kong based). I've never had any trouble with either but if you're looking for an alternative to Lik-Sang you might want to try them out. They still list PSP GT4 ship date as TBA so they haven't started pre-orders yet but you can put yourself on an alert email list so they'll let you know when they open up pre-orders.. (link (http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-9f-70-4lt.html#))

Another good import site is NCS (http://www.ncsxshop.com/cgi-bin/shop/results?mv_session_id=WdNr62CJ&mv_pc=395&cid=15&si d=2&alpha_id=0).

[PsPimporter]

I defenitly gonna import it at when it comes out in japan. Played gt3 damm lot. Still 1 of my ps2 favorites besides ffx

[gamingmonkey2004]

I defenitly gonna import it at when it comes out in japan. Played gt3 damm lot. Still 1 of my ps2 favorites besides ffx

its out in japan...i have one question why bundle the game with shoes!? of all things...shoes...

[EMAGDNIM]

those are the ones that the pit cru wears during some of the japanese touring car demos...Thats why they package the case, shoes and shirt with the game.

[Rei 76]

Can you enjoy GT in Japanese? If you have played the other games,or do you think there is too much menus and stuff to tweek etc?

To put it short:If i get,can i play it with no big hick ups?

[ZYirAH]

I'm wating for the U.S. release of GT4 for PSP. Although I'm sure you can play the Japanese version without much trouble if all you want to do is drive. The main reason I'm getting this game is to get into the tweaking and tinkering so I want to understand everything.

[EMAGDNIM]

Can you enjoy GT in Japanese? If you have played the other games,or do you think there is too much menus and stuff to tweek etc?

To put it short:If i get,can i play it with no big hick ups?

Well, there is a large GT community so I would say you would be able to get by. There is already a whole lot of translated screens for te GT4 PS2 release.

but I would say to really enjoy the game, you have to be able to read SOME japanese...

[strengha]

Wait is GT4 mobile allready out in Japan??

[import_tuner]

I don't believe so.... only GT4 for the PS2 is out. GT4 mobile probably won't be out for a few months.... :(

[EMAGDNIM]

I was speaking about the GT4 for J-PS2 :wink: