Is the PS3 going to be more like a Computer than a Console?? [Archive]

Seto

06-06-2004, 10:46 PM

julps31

06-06-2004, 10:57 PM

When I first heard about the PS3 and Sony's plan I was worried that they were taking the focus away from the games to much and puting to much focus on the multi-media function. Not to worry though Sony knows what there doing. They are contemplating having two consoles one that has a mulimedia feature where you have a dvd burner and tivo like features and one just to play games. There might be an option to download whole games but I wouldn't worry about not having disc or anything that would make it feel to much like a computer.

Makaveli_786

06-06-2004, 11:02 PM

Sony are catering for more markets, I mean if you look at it theyr making a Direct-X competitor, they made Middleware, they made the cell and they made XDR-DRAM, these all point at the PS3.

There will be two versions of the PS3, one will be a simple version with blu-ray and PS3 abilities and one with PVR, DVD and CD recorder etc etc.

Sony are focusing more on the simple version because theyll sell more basics and they know that.

Everything Sony have announced so far has been linked with games but the reason they keep comparing Consoles to PC's is because they want consoles to overtake PC's.

The PS3 wont be a PC it will have plenty of focus on games but for those who might want to turn it into a PC theres no doubt theyll be able to pick up on things.

No need to worry the PS3 will run on its own OS(not that windows shit) and cyberworld is basically 3D internet most likely.

Seto

06-06-2004, 11:09 PM

I don't have a problem with all the Tivo stuff added, Sony already makes them, adding them to the PS3 just puts them in one package with not too much extra work. The thing that was bothering me is the ability to download all sorts of stuff, including whole games. I would like to put songs on my Hard Drive and listen to them while playing my games, but would it have a special Kazza like program to download that stuff? specialy made for the PS3 with no viruses, but wouldnt that be illegal???

Makaveli_786

06-06-2004, 11:13 PM

You pay about 10 dollars a month to Sony and you can download music off their service to your HDD.

They plan to sell games so you can download them off the internet(legally, through theyr server, none of that kazaa shit, much faster, no viruses as its coming from Sony themselves, you could be playing a game or whatever and it will be downloading itself).

But like right now you will also be able to buy games from shops, theyr not CHANGING theyr just adding more options for those who might want them.

julps31

06-06-2004, 11:13 PM

I would rather have a game that I could hold in my hand and take to my freinds house than to just take the whole system. If Sony did have a download program i'm sure it would only be for games. The only illegal stuff would be things that Sony didn't register as downloadable. Things not related to Sony.

Makaveli_786

06-06-2004, 11:17 PM

Sony have a downloading music service right now too, dont forget they own a lot of movie studios so they basically own the rights to it anyway.

By the way im guessing there will be some kind of output you can store downloadable games onto, isnt blu-ray recordable too?

Loc

06-06-2004, 11:58 PM

I rather buy a hard copy, i dont want the hard drive crashing on me. Although maybe it'll redownload it.

julps31

06-07-2004, 12:01 AM

Yeah. If Sony did have a download service the probably would give you the option to download but still sell disc.

Seto

06-07-2004, 12:17 AM

but then people could download the game, store it on a disc and then sell it to people illegaly, right???

Ragnorok

06-07-2004, 12:49 AM

A playstation has always been a computer console, you just havent seen it that way. A graphics card top of the line cost around $500. The ps2 cost 300 at launch. The playstaion is basically a computer thats just a graphics card. It would never hurt to have a little more functionability, but don't fret over the new ps being PC3 instead of PS3, its just offereing a little more for those who want it. And if you dont want to have downloaded games, then don't, just buy them. I highly doubt sony will have linear choices on what you can and cant do.

julps31

06-07-2004, 01:14 AM

but then people could download the game, store it on a disc and then sell it to people illegaly, right???
Maybe. But I was talking about them selling a seperate game. Not being able to download the game from the internet and than burning it to a disc. The disc Sony will sell probably would be write protected so you couldn't simply download a game off the internet easily. Piracy's bad enough already.

KlawHammer

06-07-2004, 04:07 AM

I rather buy a hard copy, i dont want the hard drive crashing on me. Although maybe it'll redownload it.

I think your sig is a tad too big.

GUNDAMSEED

06-08-2004, 11:42 AM

Sony giving the option to d\l PS3 games . lol you guys are not thinking . first they will need the company premission to do that you can bet money that some companies won't .

Second Some of thoses games are going to be huge and broadband is not that big right now . Some people that play games could care less about the internet .
Also after you d\l the game what are you going to do burn it on dvd then that will mean the ps3 would have to have a burner not going to happen and if they use blu ray that even worst .
Hell think if d\l a game was such great idea PC companies would have done it long ago .
hell companies don't even want to give you the option to put your game on the HDD must less letting you d\l there games .
I could be wrong but i don't see it happening . To much things are not going to work . For a long while games are going to be sold out of box and only a box .

Rallyracr420

06-08-2004, 12:06 PM

Sony giving the option to d\l PS3 games . lol you guys are not thinking .

Yeah and the Phantom game console, which relies on only downloaded games isn't even going to exist. Oh wait, it already does. If you don't think games will be downloadable, even the 2-3GB+ games, you're thinking of the pre-internet era. Besides, Sony can offer any type of incentive to the game companies for making online content available such as lower royalties. Or there's the fact that so many next generation games will be online that the game companies will make mass amounts of online content just to be competitive in the market.

Sony are catering for more markets, I mean if you look at it theyr making a Direct-X competitor, they made Middleware, they made the cell and they made XDR-DRAM, these all point at the PS3.

Middleware is not a product made by Sony. Middleware is like saying freeware, shareware, spyware, adware, etc. Its a generic term used to describe any software compatibility layer.

Like I said befor, I am hopeing I am wrong because I hate computer gameing and don't know what I would do if Sony started being like that.

The PS3 won't be anymore of a computer than the PS2 was. I mean technically, the PS2 had a CD/DVD drive, USB ports, FireWire, an HDD, ethernet port, memory and a CPU. Sounds like a computer eh? Sony is going to do the same thing with the PS3 by making all the cool computer features just as easy to use as the PS2. Ease of use is what ppl want in a console. Sony knows if the gamers wanted expandability they'll go out and by a PC instead.

Brad

06-08-2004, 03:41 PM

I am hopeing this is not true and that I am sadly mistaken, but from what I have read it sounds like the PS3 will be more of a computer than a console. Yes, it would be nice to have downloads for the PS3 and stuff, but downloading whole games, and cyber worlds and all that stuff. Has Sony completly forgot about the true focus of gameing and started makeing its own type of computer.

Like I said befor, I am hopeing I am wrong because I hate computer gameing and don't know what I would do if Sony started being like that.

Please someone tell me im wrong and that it will be a real Videogame System

even if it is computer gaming, which the ps3 will be..an advanced computer console of some sort, whats so wrong about it? Its not like you gonna play with a keyboard or anything. you'll still get your discs from stores and get titles from companies like square enix, konami, namco and capcom etc. whatever they do, it'll probably be for the better. i don't care if they give me a cardboard box, as long as it got killer graphics/gameplay and mcPro games.

chances are..they'll release the console with its own harddrive,key board, joysticks and the works. cos if they're goin all out on-line this time (which the ps2 was supposed to do, but xbox beat it at that), you'll get all the accessories needed. You don't plan to type with your joystick right? choosing 1 word at a time and clicking the x button. i want as many single player rpgs as i want multiplayer games on it

Makaveli_786

06-08-2004, 04:20 PM

Middleware is not a product made by Sony. Middleware is like saying freeware, shareware, spyware, adware, etc. Its a generic term used to describe any software compatibility layer

Middleware is middleware and Sony have or are going to design Middleware for the PS3, I dont even understand what your point was :?

GUNDAMSEED

06-08-2004, 08:09 PM

""""""""""""Yeah and the Phantom game console, which relies on only downloaded games isn't even going to exist. Oh wait, it already does. If you don't think games will be downloadable, even the 2-3GB+ games, you're thinking of the pre-internet era. Besides, Sony can offer any type of incentive to the game companies for making online content available such as lower royalties. Or there's the fact that so many next generation games will be online that the game companies will make mass amounts of online content just to be competitive in the market """"""""'''

online content and having a whole game to d\l are not the same thing . No i am no living in the pre internet era the fact is that online gaming is not that big right now and alot of people that play games could care less about playing games online so why would they d\l a whole game.

Also when the Phantom comes out and sells 70 million plus, then you can tell me about how great only be able to d\l a game to play is .

How many MMORPG can they bring out and have runing the same time hell TFOL by M$ got cancel because they thought the market was full of them .

This point was to show you that yes alot of next gen games are going to be online but sooner or later companies are see the probs with it .

the legendary ice man

06-08-2004, 08:17 PM

""""""""""""Yeah and the Phantom game console, which relies on only downloaded games isn't even going to exist. Oh wait, it already does. If you don't think games will be downloadable, even the 2-3GB+ games, you're thinking of the pre-internet era. Besides, Sony can offer any type of incentive to the game companies for making online content available such as lower royalties. Or there's the fact that so many next generation games will be online that the game companies will make mass amounts of online content just to be competitive in the market """"""""'''

online content and having a whole game to d\l are not the same thing . No i am no living in the pre internet era that fact is that online gaming is not that big right now and alot of people that play games could care less about playing games online so why would they d\l a whole game.

Also when the Phantom comes out and sell 70 million plus, then you can tell me about how great d\ling a game is . Also it could be that online gaming will go down the drain or never get that big .

How many MMORPG can they bring out and have runing the same time hell TFOL by M$ got cancel because they thought the market was full of them .

Actually, If you want, you can go out and buy thr games from stores...I think...

GUNDAMSEED

06-08-2004, 08:23 PM

""""""""""""Yeah and the Phantom game console, which relies on only downloaded games isn't even going to exist. Oh wait, it already does. If you don't think games will be downloadable, even the 2-3GB+ games, you're thinking of the pre-internet era. Besides, Sony can offer any type of incentive to the game companies for making online content available such as lower royalties. Or there's the fact that so many next generation games will be online that the game companies will make mass amounts of online content just to be competitive in the market """"""""'''

online content and having a whole game to d\l are not the same thing . No i am no living in the pre internet era that fact is that online gaming is not that big right now and alot of people that play games could care less about playing games online so why would they d\l a whole game.

Also when the Phantom comes out and sell 70 million plus, then you can tell me about how great d\ling a game is . Also it could be that online gaming will go down the drain or never get that big .

How many MMORPG can they bring out and have runing the same time hell TFOL by M$ got cancel because they thought the market was full of them .

Actually, If you want, you can go out and buy thr games from stores...I think...

do you mean for the Phantom or PS3 . Also when was it said that sony will let you d\l the games for the ps3 . also content and extras stage are not same as d\ling a game .

Omega Blue

06-08-2004, 08:24 PM

Actually, If you want, you can go out and buy thr games from stores...I think...
*sigh* no you can't whens the last time you saw the Phantom console with a freakin disc drive in it?

Middleware is not a product made by Sony. Middleware is like saying freeware, shareware, spyware, adware, etc. Its a generic term used to describe any software compatibility layer.
middleware is term used to decribe the SDK. at least on this forum, with non-picky untrivial people.

KlawHammer

06-09-2004, 10:36 AM

Actually, If you want, you can go out and buy thr games from stores...I think...

*sigh*Phantom has no disc drive. It relies only on downloaded content.

Cloud384

06-09-2004, 05:00 PM

Makaveli, I don't mean to sound arrogant, but it takes more than Sony has to make an operating system that can be sold with a computer system.

However, I think you're right in saying that the B.I.O.S. of the PS3 will be able to FUNCTION LIKE AND OS.

And if Sony does choose to place an O.S. on the PS3, it will be Sony's customized version of Linux, I promise.

They planned to put an O.S. on the PS2 years ago, but they couldn't because the operating system wouldn't be suitable for basic users to use.

An operating system on a HDD console could cause a lot of difficulties for the basics they're aming to sell to.

ultimategamer2004

06-09-2004, 05:03 PM

well i hope if they do put in an OS they do put there version of linux but at this stage i doubt they will. :roll:

Brad

06-09-2004, 05:08 PM

And if Sony does choose to place an O.S. on the PS3, it will be Sony's customized version of Linux, I promise.

Yea..imbedded linux or something, old news. no need to promise :)

ultimategamer2004

06-09-2004, 05:29 PM

So has it been comfirned there will be an OS.

Brad

06-09-2004, 06:03 PM

That is what Sony is leaning towards, apparently

According to a recent article published by CNET Asia, the Playstation 3 may run on Embedded Linux. Sam Greenblatt, a senior vice-president with Computer Associates and chief architect of its Linux Technology Group recently stated that Sony Computer engineers were looking at utilising the "Embedded Linux" based technology to operate the Playstation 3.

http://www.ps3insider.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=34