Nintendo DS Discussion Thread Part 3

[Matt]

Continuation of the DS thread:

Part 1 (http://playstation3insider.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1318)
Part 2 (http://www.playstation3insider.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2288)

Keep it on-topic please.

[games_ fan]

So how much more info do you think will be released at TGS about the ds.

[Matt]

There will probably be a lot more info as far as games are concerned, as they didn't really show us any at E3.

[Makaveli_786]

There were loads of games at E3 just not in the actual conference, I saw about ten on a movie.

[games_ fan]

Their wasn't any games not made by nintendo was there. They should show some of them.

[Makaveli_786]

I can remember one Square Enix one.

[games_ fan]

What was it :?

[Matt]

There were loads of games at E3 just not in the actual conference, I saw about ten on a movie.

I only saw a couple, must have missed something.

I think it will be nice to see the features of the DS in action a little bit more, as in games implementing things like the voice recognition and touch screen capabilities.

[games_ fan]

They might show how some of the features will be included in games at TGS it will help get more people interested in the system.

[Makaveli_786]

There was a movie but the website is down, ill post it once the website is back up.

[ultimategamer2004]

hopefully there will be a good amout of news at TGS! but it will be more handheld talk!

[games_ fan]

At the moment their pushing the ds and psp so I wouldn't expect to hear much info on anything else.

[Makaveli_786]

Damn DS and PSP made enough of a stir at E3..

At TGS I think MS will stay quiet while Nintendo might present something to counter Sony's showing of the cell..

XNA isnt going to be able to stand up against the cell so theyll stick to Xbox's lineup, Nintendo will probably say a little about next gen and revolutionary games and Sony might give a preview of what the cell workstation can push or might just show the cell workstation and talk about what they expect it to be able to do.. At the very least TGS will be very interesting!

[games_ fan]

It will be interesting. Sound exactly like what they will probably do. Can you read minds :lol:

[Makaveli_786]

LOL, Man I had to study Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft and all these other companies in Business classes for a long time.

It becomes a pain in the ass after a little while but its pretty easy to assess what theyr upto so all those classes came in use afterall.

[Ress Cor]

Where did you study? Learning about game companies in classes lucky you!

[games_ fan]

So learning stuff is actually worth it :shock:

[Makaveli_786]

Business studies in Oldham Sixth Form College.

This year im doing CAD so I get to mess around with computerss all day, next year im doing Graphics Design so ill be messing with graphics all day, education is great if you know what to choose :D

[ultimategamer2004]

yes i have only done a f1 car thingy at school talking about CAD i have pro desktop but i dont use it at home :lol:

[Makaveli_786]

CAD is great, graphics design is better though becuase you can read about games all day and your technically studying :D

[solidus]

Hey makaveli, how old are you, just to be curious.
I'm gonna learn some graphic stuff next year.

[Makaveli_786]

18.

[solidus]

Ok, just wondering how old you were for following those courses.

[Makaveli_786]

At secondary school I did IT from year 7 to year 11, the last two years I did a GNVQ in Business as well.

Then when I left college I went into AVCE in Business including an A-level in IT.

Anyway I had problems getting there after moving so I had to leave that college behind, when I went to the other colleges they didnt follow the same subject so I had to change to engineering, thats where I learnt about CAD and CNC.

Now next year im going to do A-levels or an AVCE in Graphics Design.

[ultimategamer2004]

This has gone way off topic so lets get back to the ds eh. :cry:

[richjwild]

yes i have only done a f1 car thingy at school talking about CAD i have pro desktop but i dont use it at home :lol:

i did that :D ive still got my car i designed, it won :D

[ultimategamer2004]

i dident even end up making mine it is very interesting though i might have another go.. they go very fast dont they. i have seen 1 on the net 2000mph.. i have a rocket that goes 600ft with the same kind of co2 cartriges.

[Matt]

Can we get back to the DS discussion please.

[Mitri]

can someone tell me where the speakers are on the DS?

[richjwild]

i couldnt see any but i always thought that the recess where the buttons go when it is folded up would make a perfect place

[ultimategamer2004]

Thats the best place i think... as long as they work it aint that important to me :!:

[games_ fan]

Can't see them anywere but if they have good sound quality who cares.

[ultimategamer2004]

Well if they give good sound and dont look very crap it does not matter. :wink:

[games_ fan]

The only thing i'm worried about is if they can make the touch screen be used without hurting your wrist.

[ultimategamer2004]

Wheres the risk of breaking your wrist???

[games_ fan]

Through having to hold the ds in one hnd while holding the stylus. MAybe not break your wrist :oops:

[ultimategamer2004]

just forget about it :lol:

[Mitri]

as i have said a many times before: i am sure the stylus will NOT be the only way to contol the game. i am sure that nintendo will make it so that you can use the directional pad like on any other game. if not what is the point in putting one on the DS?

[games_ fan]

Some games seem not to be able to work without the stylus. There will be games that use the d-pad but others will have to use the stylus or your finger.

[Matt]

Doesn't really matter that much. It's not as if you have to pay extra to buy the stylus afterwards so that you can play certain games.....

[richjwild]

id expect every DS game to have at least a mini game using the stylus

[Matt]

I don't think that they'll have every game using it. I think that the developers would want to be able to have the freedom to do what they want, rather than to feel that they need to include some kind of feature in their game that uses the stylus.

[Loc]

What do you think about Nintendo’s DS? Was the touchscreen function a surprise to you?
It’s a surprise in that Nintendo should know better. It’s a short-term benefit.

So you’re not viewing the DS as competition for PSP?
It’s a very different product, aimed at a very different audience.

Some believe that Nintendo is risking cannibalising its existing GBA audience. What do you think?
I think that you’d have to ask Nintendo that question and try to understand why they appear to have made such a knee-jerk reaction.

You think Nintendo’s DS is a knee-jerk reaction to PSP?
I am convinced of it.

From Edge Magazine.

[ultimategamer2004]

id expect every DS game to have at least a mini game using the stylus

Well not every game just a majority. :lol:

[games_ fan]

Probably every game that has menus will use the stylus because it makes it much easier.

[Mitri]

i would expect almost every RPG to use the stylus because those are the games with the most menus to move through.(i think)

speaking of RPG's does anyone think that we will see any MMORPG's on the DS? or games like PSO where you can play online or off?

[richjwild]

i still think that every game will use the stylus in some way, or why would it be on the DS? touch screen is THE main feature off the DS (i think behind the 2 screens) so i would expect EVERY game to utilise it in some way.

[ultimategamer2004]

Maybe so but noy all would use it in thye game..

[games_ fan]

When the developers start using the features better after a few months 9/10 games will use the stylus in the game probably.

[ultimategamer2004]

OK maybe so but maybe in mini games within a gameif you get me. :lol:

[games_ fan]

some games are just minigames :lol: I still think the stylus will be used in nearly all the games not just for menus and minigames.

[ultimategamer2004]

Well thats your opinion but i think that they wont be used most of the time in the actual game. :arrow:

[games_ fan]

Depends what type of game it is realy certain types of games will work brilliantly with the stylus.

[ultimategamer2004]

So thats that then i will go with certain types of game. :lol:

Finally we come to an end!

[richjwild]

Depends what type of game it is realy certain types of games will work brilliantly with the stylus.

well theres a sonic game where u rub the stylus on the screen fast to make sonic run - that just seems like using touch screen for the sake of it - thats why i think EVERY game will use it

[Mitri]

i don't think that every game will use the stylus for instance what could they use a stylus for in a a madden game or basket game?

[Nas]

I think you have to be a "little" stupid to think every single game playable on the DS will use the touchscreen considering you can play GBA games on DS :roll:

[sworder]

Depends what type of game it is realy certain types of games will work brilliantly with the stylus.

well theres a sonic game where u rub the stylus on the screen fast to make sonic run - that just seems like using touch screen for the sake of it - thats why i think EVERY game will use it

The sonic game was a demo showing the DS capabilities. The sonic game is gonna suck after a while if the only thing you do is use the stylus and jump. Also how are you gonna hold it? With your right hand you hold the DS and jump, both at the same time(if you can), while with the left hand you rub the screen? :lol: Don't think that will be comfortable.

[richjwild]

yeah but that IS a real issue. on the metroid game u have to use the dpad, action buttons, shoulder buttons and the touch screen all at once

[sworder]

Yeah!

People say that the PSP is heavier than the DS, but you hold the PSP with 2 hands all the time, while you(sometimes) hold the DS with one.

[richjwild]

meaning it creates more pressure on your hand so the DS would seem heavier, seen as the psps weight is spread out

[sworder]

I know the PSP weights 260g. How much ounces is that?

How much does the DS weight?

[richjwild]

why the hell would you want to know it in ounces?

[sworder]

why the hell would you want to know it in ounces?

Because I don't have an idea of how much it weights. :oops:
Maybe like a cellphone, like a gameboy, like a PS2 controller? I don't know.

[Loc]

It weighs as much as my Sidekick, so probably teh weight of your Mouse.

[ultimategamer2004]

why the hell would you want to know it in ounces?

Because I don't have an idea of how much it weights. :oops:
Maybe like a cellphone, like a gameboy, like a PS2 controller? I don't know.

Well its about 3 times the weight of a modern cell phone.

[Matt]

why the hell would you want to know it in ounces?

To put it into perspective, it's like having two Nokia 3310 phones.

[ultimategamer2004]

and about 15 gramms of sugar :lol:

[Matt]

Well a 3310 weighs 133g, so it's actually just less than two of them.

[ultimategamer2004]

Oh yeah :oops:

i think we can safly say nthe PSP is far from a brick!

[klaymen]

is 260g over a pound?

[ultimategamer2004]

Dont be silly now as matt has said in perspective it is the same as 2 nokia 3310 phones and as far as i've always known 1000g is a pound...

[sworder]

Not as heavy as I thought! :)

What about the DS? Is the PSP a lot heavier or just a little?

[ultimategamer2004]

Who said tyhe PSP was a any heavyier i dont know the weight of the DS anyways. :?

[games_ fan]

The ds is about the same weight as the psp and it has to be if you have to hold it with one hand sometimes.

[ultimategamer2004]

Yeah the weight of both is OK.

[Matt]

is 260g over a pound?

1 pound is equal to 453.6 grams

So roughly half a pound.

[ultimategamer2004]

Quite light! How much did the GBA SP weigh??

[Matt]

The SP weighs about 5 ounces, which comes to around 150 grams.

[ultimategamer2004]

Well thats come as quite a blow...

It isnt as light as i thought but it is ample i mean the SP is very light so the psp is not a brick.

[games_ fan]

Should get back on topic. Any games on the ds you lot are looking forward to?

[ultimategamer2004]

Well i aint sure of all the DS games so i cant say..We are on topic really talking about the weight of the ds compared to PSP and so on. :lol:

[games_ fan]

Maybe but it did go of topic with the sp weight.

[ultimategamer2004]

I wanted to know that to see what the DS and PSP were like in a comparison.. So we know that PSP and DS are around the same but the sp is much lighter than the 2.

[Matt]

With the hardware that both the DS and PSP are carrying, I don't think that it's much of a surprise that they would be heavier than something like the SP.

[ultimategamer2004]

Yes thats true but take a Sony VAIO X505 laptop thats only 800g thats somthing lighter than you would expect.

[games_ fan]

The PSP and DS aren't exactly as heavy as a brick they are preety light realy like a handheld should be.

[ultimategamer2004]

Well i dont own a SP and that weighs 150 so considering that weight it is heavy but its not relly a brick.

[NickSCFC]

LOL, Man I had to study Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft and all these other companies in Business classes for a long time.

It becomes a pain in the ass after a little while but its pretty easy to assess what theyr upto so all those classes came in use afterall.
Aaaah, this topic is full of gems :)

[ultimategamer2004]

Yeah that would be good if it is true dont you think :lol:

[Matt]

Can we keep this on topic please. Seriously, I don't want to have to keep on saying this every 10 posts.

[ultimategamer2004]

This may have been said before but do you think the ds will be competition for the psp and how do you think it will sell.

[games_ fan]

It will be competition to the psp and I think it will sell about the same as the psp.

[ultimategamer2004]

Maybe because of nintendos reconition in the handheld market but i dont think that older gamers will buy it some how.

[games_ fan]

I doupt anyone over 20 would buy it and not that many people over 16.

[ultimategamer2004]

Theres loads of 16+ gamers and even 21+ so thats wrong! The older ppl maybe 14+ will uy the psp along with a few under that age bracket but the DS will sell mainly to 14- gamers and a few over that age!

[games_ fan]

I mean people that will buy the ds :roll:

[ultimategamer2004]

Ok i wasent all hear....

Sorry :oops:

But thats what i think will happen do you think the DS will be more for under14's?

It will be good to anyone but i think the most sales will be to the under 14's...

[games_ fan]

Probably maybe 16 and under mostly but thats better than previous nintendo handhelds.

[ultimategamer2004]

What do you mean??? :roll:

[richjwild]

i think he means that under 14 isnt bad for a nintendo handheld from nintys point of view, and ther usually a lower age, like below 10 or sumthin

[games_ fan]

Yeah thats what I mean. I should have made it more clear :oops:

[ultimategamer2004]

OK i see where you are coming from i would say under 12 fo the last handhelds...

[Mitri]

what about the games will we see any type of older audience games to boost sales? more older audience games than on the GC?(those sad very few)

[games_ fan]

Their will probably be a few mature games on the ds because nintendo are starting to release more mature games on their systems but still not as many as most people would like :(

[NickSCFC]

(those sad very few)
What was that supposed to mean?

[games_ fan]

I think he means the few mature games on the GC.

[NickSCFC]

That doesn't make sense either.

[ultimategamer2004]

I think he means the few mature games on the GC.

They are few.. not enough that nitendo need so that doesent make sense..

[NickSCFC]

I just got the idea that he was having a go at the people who buy Nintendo's products, which isn't very nice :)

[ultimategamer2004]

Nintendo are very good loads of experience.

[NickSCFC]

:roll:

[Mitri]

uhhhh....nick i wasn't making a go a people who buy nintendo products because i have a GC(had it on reservation when it was released) have all the 4 resident evils,and about 20 other games. i just spent almost $100 to play the 2 games that are online($42.78 for Broad Band adaptor,$20.00 for 25 foot ethernet cord,$8.95 for monthly subscription,$20.00 for a keyboard. :twisted: )

so I AM a very much so supporter of nintndo products and i would be talking about myself if i was making a go.

[ultimategamer2004]

I always liked thyam but for some reason dident get a GC but theres still time! :roll:

[Matt]

Miyamoto: DS wireless Internet a possibility

Nintendo's Miyamoto says third-party software could allow DS to connect to Internet through its wireless LAN.

In a recent interview conducted by staff at Earthbound creator Shigesato Itoi’s Web site, Nintendo's Shigeru Miyamoto revealed that it is technically possible for the DS to connect to the Internet using its wireless LAN…as long as a third party develops the appropriate software.

"We added the wireless LAN (IEEE802.11) to the DS mainly for the handhelds to communicate between each other," said Miyamoto. "But if someone releases appropriate software that allows it to connect to wireless LAN access points, it could also be used to connect to the Internet."

Miyamoto was quick to point out that Nintendo itself is not interested in developing the possible Internet capabilities of the DS. The company is focusing on gameplay rather than hardware capabilities and plans to make the machine enjoyable without the need for additional devices or peripherals. “The one thing we don’t want to do is to add this and that and every connection and capability [to the DS]. We want to make the DS enjoyable, by itself, as far as we can."

Source: Gamespot (http://www.gamespot.com/)

Retail reports indicate Nintendo DS pricing, launch date, software

November 4th, 19,000 Yen (140 Euro), with five to six launch titles and 11 by 2005

Unconfirmed reports from Japanese retail sources suggest that Nintendo is planning to roll out the DS handheld on November 4th priced at 19,000 Yen (140 Euro), followed by a US launch on November 11th at $179.95 (145 Euro).

The same sources indicate that the Japanese launch of the handheld will be accompanied by five to six software titles, with Nintendo aiming to have 11 titles on the market by the end of 2004.

Nintendo reportedly aims to sell three million units of the Nintendo DS worldwide by the end of fiscal 2005 next March - a period which should encompass both the Japanese and US launches before Christmas, and the European launch in early 2005.

While these figures certainly seem plausible, it should be noted that Nintendo has issued no official confirmation of the launch date, price or software support for the Nintendo DS as yet; in fact, we're still not even sure what the DS will be called at retail, since Nintendo DS is still officially a codename, not a final product name.

The retail prices suggested in this report would almost certainly make the NDS significantly cheaper than the PlayStation Portable, which is expected to cost well over 30,000 Yen (220 Euro) when it arrives in Japan later this year, ahead of a US and European launch in 2005.

Earlier this week, a Nintendo spokesperson criticised the PSP in an interview with Japanese newspaper Asahi Shimbun, arguing that the handheld could not be classified as a true video game system because of its integration of music and movie playback functions.

Source: GI (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/)

[Matt]

The Urbz announced for Nintendo DS

EA announces that it will release a Nintendo DS version of The Urbz: Sims in the City in November.

Electronic Arts today announced that it plans to release a Nintendo DS version of The Urbz: Sims in the City this November. Currently in development at EA, in conjunction with Griptonite Games, the DS version of the game will boast a number of features not found in its PC, home console, or GBA counterparts.

"We're thrilled that this new franchise is the first from Electronic Arts to illustrate the power of the Nintendo DS," said Sinjin Bain, vice president and executive producer. "On the Nintendo DS, we are able to do things with The Urbz: Sims in the City that we could not do with any other console. Like the system itself, this game is completely unique. Never before have Sims players been able to unleash their alter egos in an urban environment--complete with the sounds, scenes, and settings of the city."

The Urbz: Sims in the City--as the title suggests--sees the sims moving to the city of Miniopolis, where reputation is everything. Features exclusive to the DS version of the game will include a wireless multiplayer mode, touch-screen input, 24 objects, five minigames, seven characters, and eight species of pets that players can create using the in-game gene manipulator.

Source: Gamespot (http://www.gamespot.com/)

[ultimategamer2004]

11 games at launch it aint bad and a 140 euro price tag is very good almost poket money i think £100?

[games_ fan]

Their should be about 20 by the time it's released over here wich isn't bad. 140 euros is about £90 wich is a pretty good price.

[ultimategamer2004]

Pretty good its more than that in the 21st century its unbelivable but we always new it was going to be cheap if i was to get it at launch i only get about 5 games with the console normally.

[games_ fan]

If it's coming out in march then I can get it for my birthday with about 3 games :D

[ultimategamer2004]

Nice 1 if your Bday is around then but whern will you get the psp if you get the DS first?

[games_ fan]

I will have some money left so if I save up a bit more I can buy it and still have some more money left for games.

[ultimategamer2004]

My plan is to get a new PCup and runnig by Jan with monitor and all then i will wait to get the psp as longs as it takes me to save up prob 3-4 months if it is £300..

[Matt]

Muumuu president Yukihito Morikawa hints that games for the Nintendo DS will retail in Japan at 3,800 yen.

In a recent online diary entry on his company's website (http://www.muumuu.com/), Muumuu president Yukihito Morikawa hinted that the retail price of Nintendo DS cartridges will cost at 3,800 yen ($35) in Japan. Since Muumuu is a third-party developer, the announcement is not an official release by Nintendo, and it is not known whether the price would be for all DS cartridges.

In his diary, Morikawa makes some critical statements about the price, saying that 3,800 yen per cartridge for the DS will be too expensive for some games, and that it will limit the developers' freedom. Morikawa says that the DS’ hardware allows small but unique game ideas to be realized into a product at a low development cost. However, Morikawa continues, the developers won't be able to market those small games, because they can’t sell them at a lower price.

"I heard from a producer that a few DS projects going on in his company are deadlocked”, says Morikawa in his diary. “There are a lot of new things that can be done [with the touch-sensitive screen], such as making hand drawn characters fight with each other or transforming a 3D object with the use of the stylus. You can bang [in the game] with the stylus, dig holes, chip away things… it's easy to come up with those kinds of small ideas, and the DS is a superb hardware in that sense.”

"But, those kinds of ideas are too small to fit in a 3,800 yen cartridge, which is why [the developers] are deadlocked”, continues Morikawa. “It's difficult to expand on those types of small ideas, kind of like how a short story won't become a good novel if you bloat it up with unnecessary ideas. So the only way to fill a 3,800 yen cartridge is by stuffing in one huge idea or a lot of small ideas. But we can’t stuff in a bunch of small ideas, because that’s something which is already going to be done with Made in Wario [WarioWare, Inc. DS]."

Muumuu has developed a number of titles for Sony Computer Entertainment, such as the Jumping Flash! series and Kuma Uta. The company is also currently developing an unannounced title for the Sony PSP, which Morikawa hints will feature a new gaming style.

Source: Gamespot (http://www.gamespot.com/)

[ultimategamer2004]

$35 that is actually quite a bit for a cartridge but seen as the DS its self is so cheap..

[games_ fan]

It is quite a bit but nintendo havn't said anything about the price of games so it'll hopefuly be a bit less.

[ultimategamer2004]

Yes but as the system is so cheap thats what you get.

[games_ fan]

But if it's a budget handheld it will need budget games.

[ultimategamer2004]

you cant expect all the things for the DS to be as good value for money as the actual system.

[games_ fan]

Still i would like to see the games sold at about £25 wich would be good value for money.

[ultimategamer2004]

Yep but a low price could mean the system could be seen and looked like it is aimed at the younger gamers which i dont think nintendo really need.

[richjwild]

i dont think nintendo would intentionaly price their games high just to make it look like its for older gamers

[ultimategamer2004]

No but i dont think they want it to look like a kids system to much seen as gamers are getting older all th time 10 years ago it woiuld be obscene if somone 25 years of age was playing a console but now loads of 25 years olds do and it is considered normal.

[games_ fan]

Just because the games are cheap dosn't mean it's kiddy. Like an old game on ps2 costs about £20 that dosn't mean it's aimed at little kids :roll:

[richjwild]

nintendo would not price game high just to mak it look more mature. what games more mature here, GTA for a fiver, or tweenies adventures for 30 quid?

[games_ fan]

I've just found out that nintendo have confirmed that in the final DS design there will be a hole next to the card slot were you store the stylus so theirs no chance of losing it. And the weight is about the same as the original GBA wich is mens it's not that heavy :D

[NickSCFC]

Source?

[ultimategamer2004]

Well if it was that heavy that aint to bad but i would like to see a source.

[NickSCFC]

Can't wait to see the final design, the E3 version was soooooo not Nintendo.

[ultimategamer2004]

Yeah it could be alot more stylish than it is! looks a bit old fashioned when compared to the PSP.

[games_ fan]

source NGC a games mag i'll scan it for you if you want

[NickSCFC]

Go do the scanningnenen :D

[ultimategamer2004]

Yes scan it if you can i would like to look at it!

[games_ fan]

Ok i should have it on in a few minutes

[ultimategamer2004]

I'm waiting your going to hve to link them from a site though.

[games_ fan]

I know i'm just uploading it to a website it's taking ages!

[NickSCFC]

Save it as a JPEG and host it on www.imageshack.us

[ultimategamer2004]

Ok i was just stating a point> hope to see it soon dont reply to this unless you have them.

[games_ fan]

It dosn't work I might try again and scan it at a lower resolutioin tomorow but I give up for now.

[ultimategamer2004]

Ok fair enough at least you had a go hopfully we will see on Sunday look foward to it anyways what else is there to say about the DS??

[richjwild]

its pretty obvious that theres gunna be a hole for your stylus, i dont need a scan to beleive that.

[ultimategamer2004]

supose it is yes we were on about the weight before that aswell!:roll:

[games_ fan]

Ok fair enough at least you had a go hopfully we will see on Sunday look foward to it anyways what else is there to say about the DS??

It basicaly shows some tech demos, games, some developers who will support it and this


PSP vs DS: Round one to Nintendo


[17/06/04 09:17]
Japanese developers give DS the thumbs up in a survey by Japanese games bible Famitsu

Japanese magazine Famitsu has polled industry notables in the first head-to-head battle between Nintendo and Sony's forthcoming handhelds.

The DS is a clear overall winner, garnering 1629 votes to PSP's 1269, but Sony can take comfort in crushing victories in several key areas. The Battle Royale took place over 12 rounds - let's get ready to rumble!

ROUND 1: Which console will sell most?
PSP = 102, DS = 137, Don't Know = 111

ROUND 2: Which console will be cheapest?
PSP = 31, DS = 274, Don't Know = 38

ROUND 3: Which console will be out first?
PSP = 98, DS = 152, Don't Know = 101

ROUND 4: Which console will host the most interesting games?
PSP = 66, DS = 172, Don't Know = 111

ROUND 5: Which design do you prefer?
PSP = 251, DS = 42, Don't Know = 58

ROUND 6: Which console are you most likely to actually carry around with you?
PSP = 134, DS = 69, Don't Know = 147

ROUND 7: Which console would you play on a train?
PSP = 140, DS = 91, Don't Know = 119

ROUND 8: Which console the most marked you in term of presentation?
PSP = 104, DS = 89, Don't Know = 154

ROUND 9: Which console has the most interesting functionalities?
PSP = 113, DS = 149, Don't Know = 88

ROUND 10: Which console will have most all-new games?
PSP = 31, DS = 244, Don't Know = 74

ROUND 11: Which will be the easiest to develop for?
PSP = 114, DS = 98, Don't Know = 134

ROUND 12: Which console will be around longest?
PSP = 84, DS = 156, Don't Know = 112

PSP wins five rounds with a total of 1269 votes.
DS is the winner with seven rounds and 1629 rounds.

wich I also found on http://gamesradar.msn.co.uk/news/default.asp?pagetypeid=2&articleid=30728&subsectio nid=1584

[richjwild]

yes u were. :lol:

you were waiting for a scan of the source saying there will be a hole for one :roll:

[Matt]

I've just found out that nintendo have confirmed that in the final DS design there will be a hole next to the card slot were you store the stylus so theirs no chance of losing it. And the weight is about the same as the original GBA wich is mens it's not that heavy :D

Jeez, short term memory ug2004.....

[NickSCFC]

Who cares? They aren't even out yet!

[ultimategamer2004]

Very interesting a small servey though so not that accurate and a few stupid questions.

[Matt]

Who cares? They aren't even out yet!

Well, if you hadn't already noticed, this whole site is based on something that isn't out yet. :)

[NickSCFC]

So, I give the same shit arsed remarks to posts about PS3 vs Xbox Next.

[Mitri]

i don't know if thins has already been stated but accordig to Gamepro the DS will cost around $180.

here's a link:

http://www.gamepro.com/nintendo/ds/hardware/news/36874.shtml

[ultimategamer2004]

Yes we know that now it will be about $180 or £100 which is a very good price!

[games_ fan]

wow thats about £96 brilliant price.

[ultimategamer2004]

Yep like we have all said before its amazing value.

[neptunez]

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/

http://premium.uploadit.org/dsn2000/DS.JPG


you heard it from me first guys.

I'm 10x better than gamespot and IGN combined.

I always feed my children :lol:

[stanDarsh]

8) I like it! can't wait for that and PSP to be released, gonna be tough decision which to pick first!

[games_ fan]

Wow now thats a look that would make people want to buy it and here it is closed
http://media.nintendo-europe.com/compel/images/compel_images/Image_61c4731c-9cfc-4520-b2f8-a22887821641.jpg
and nintendo ds will be it's proper name now

More Than 120 Games in Development Worldwide for Nintendo's New Game Platform

July 28, 2004 - In preparation for the launch of Nintendo DS(TM) in North America and Japan later this year and Europe in Q1 2005, Nintendo today announces major global developments for the innovative dual-screen, wireless, hand-held video game system.

Nintendo DS, originally chosen as the code name, has been selected as the official product name. The Nintendo DS name evokes the idea of a portable system with "dual screens," providing the rationale for the final name. The hardware also has been redesigned to sport a slimmer, sharper look. The retooled Nintendo DS features a thinner, black base and an angular platinum flip-top cover. The face buttons and shoulder buttons are larger, and some have been reconfigured for optimum use. The unit includes a new storage slot for the touch screen's stylus, and the speakers now broadcast in stereo sound, with or without headphones.

"The Nintendo DS will change the future of hand-held gaming," says Satoru Iwata, president of Nintendo Co., Ltd. "Dual screens, chat functions, a touch screen, wireless capabilities, voice recognition - these abilities surpass anything attempted before, and consumers will benefit from the creativity and innovation the new features bring to the world of video games."

Software companies worldwide have more than 120 Nintendo DS games in development. Nintendo alone is developing more than 20 titles, and in excess of 100 companies have signed on to create games for the new system.

Nintendo will announce the launch date, price and game lineup for Nintendo DS at a later date.

source http://www.nintendo-europe.com/NOE/en/GB/news/article.do?elementId=56dfe013-0ec3-4138-8cd9-ae8646f3ddf0

[NickSCFC]

http://media.nintendo-europe.com/compel/images/compel_images/Image_9ea6a713-9fcf-4e31-8bb7-9d227cf02802.jpghttp://media.nintendo-europe.com/compel/images/compel_images/Image_61c4731c-9cfc-4520-b2f8-a22887821641.jpg
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http://media.nintendo-europe.com/compel/images/compel_images/Image_2339ffb2-bd60-4546-8a73-fb14e9073f24.jpg

[ultimategamer2004]

Some ppl are saying that it looks worse but most seem to think its an improvment i i personally think its a big one on the old design it looks more modern and stylish.

[richjwild]

im not too sure about this design, its corners are a bit sharp, and the black makes it look a bit cheap :?

[ultimategamer2004]

What material is the DS made out of?

[richjwild]

you asked the same question in 2 threads and i already told u, it will be plastic.

[games_ fan]

im not too sure about this design, its corners are a bit sharp, and the black makes it look a bit cheap :?
Why do you think it makes it looks cheap it looks better than it would with any other coloured stuff :?

[Mitri]

I TOLD ALL OF YOU THAT THE OLD DESIGN WAS JUST PUT TOGETHER FOR THE SHOW AND NOW NINTENDO IS PROVING ME RIGHT!!!!

VICTORY!! :twisted:

[ultimategamer2004]

Yep BUT the old design still did carry a resemblence to the final design and they dident say that the old was final!

[Mitri]

i was just looking at the design and are the ends and all around it rubber?

they look like rubber bumpers :lol:

[NickSCFC]

That's just because the light is hitting the top.

[ultimategamer2004]

Yep :lol: It is definatly the light i mean ppl would laugh at nintendo if they put ruber bumpers on the DS!

[rev>thanu]

http://pocketmedia.ign.com/pocket/image/article/534/534070/nintendo-finalizes-the-ds-20040728064918093.jpg

http://pocketmedia.ign.com/pocket/image/article/534/534070/nintendo-finalizes-the-ds-20040728064915452.jpg

TO ME THE DS HAS IMPROVED A WHOLE LOT FROM E3 IN TERMS OF DESIGN. JUST LOOK

http://pocketmedia.ign.com/pocket/image/article/516/516016/e3-2004-everything-ds-20040514082151544.jpg

STILL I THINK THE PSP LOOKS WAY BETTER STILL
http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/513/513175/the-psp-faq-20040528060732416.jpg

[the legendary ice man]

The PSP is a much better design.

The DS is a massive improvement over the old one (would have been interesting to see how Nintendo's DS sells if It looked like that).

I presume you've seen where the power button for the DS is, that is going to cause a massive outrage, imo?

[games_ fan]

It's in a decent place but if you're using the d-pad and then slip and press the power button that will be crap but i doupt it that would be a big problem if they had the buttons like the GBC or original GBA

[ultimategamer2004]

Well yes thanks for the pics now we can see alot of difference between the old ds design and the new it is alot better psp looks aloud better than the ds still though!

[richjwild]

carrying on the ds's limitations thread-

click me (http://forums.nintendo.com/nintendo/board/message?board.id=ds&message.id=1493&view=by_date_a scending&page=1)

warning you may get angry, join the forum and flame the silly twats

[kevindenoyette]

Those people are incredibly retarded. It's appalling.

[ultimategamer2004]

Yeah if i could be bothered i would join but 9im cant they are to retarded! :lol:

[games_ fan]

Nintendo passing on Space World, Tokyo Game Show
Once again, the game giant is forgoing expos; instead, it is planning a nationwide DS promotion in Japan.

TOKYO--In an interview with Nintendo Dream magazine, Nintendo spokesperson Mitsuaki Hagishima confirmed that the company will not hold a Space World event for the third year in a row. "We could have opened the Space World [this year], but holding a large event in one location makes it difficult for people from other regions to participate," Hagishima commented.

Space World was Nintendo's annual self-promotion convention in Japan, but it has been on hold since the 2002 event was canceled. However, Hagishima promised it will be back on--someday. "It's not like we won't ever open a Space World event again. But we aren't going to hold one this summer," he told Nintendo Dream.

In a less surprising move, Nintendo will once again not exhibit at the Tokyo Game Show. (The game giant has skipped TGS entirely for several years running.) Instead, Nintendo is planning a nationwide promotion of its upcoming DS handheld game device. "We want as many of our fans in the country as possible to experience the DS before it goes on sale at the end of the year," said Hagishima. "So, instead, we're currently planning an effective event that can be expanded to a nationwide scale."

source http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/07/21/news_6103162.html

No DS at TGS :cry: thats a bad move imo

[NickSCFC]

When is the Tokyo Game Show anyway?

[games_ fan]

september 24th-26th

[ultimategamer2004]

I made a thread about it but dont think it is on the first page now!

[sworder]

Since PSP has a hold mode, I read that DS will have a same function. If you press the power button the system will go into sleep mode but if you hold it, it will completely shut down. That way if your finger slips, you can resume the game.

This hasn't been confirmed because Nintendo are still working with the DS. That system doesn't say it's name in any part, does it? :P

[ultimategamer2004]

yeas well it should be ok if that is what happens at least in your finger was to slip you will be able to carry on.

[games_ fan]

I hope it's like that or that could be a big problem. I think they will have the name underneath like the game boy's do.

[ultimategamer2004]

What do you mean the name?

[games_ fan]

That system doesn't say it's name in any part, does it? :P
I was replying to that.

[ultimategamer2004]

Yeah ok it probably will be underneath a bit like on the psp but it aint major and as long as it is somwhere thats ok.

[PseudoChron]

DS stands for "developer's system", right? That's what I heard, but in this IGN editorial (http://psp.ign.com/articles/536/536716p1.html), they refer to it as Dual Screen. I think that Developer's System is a stupid name for a handheld, I bet that the majority of people who get it will think that it stands for Dual Screen.

http://psp.ign.com/articles/536/536716p3.html
The reason for the Nintendo DS' being is its dual screen design (that's what DS stands for, duh).

[NickSCFC]

Nintendogs

"Tamagochi of the 21st century" Ahem

As with most pet sims, you'll have to raise and look after your pooch and we wouldn't be surprised to see the game make use of the DS's built-in microphone and voice recognition capabilities.

Current speculation also suggests that you'll be able to use DS's stylus to stroke your canine chum and throw sticks for it. Barbara Woodhouse eat your heart out.

http://gamesradar.msn.co.uk/media/gamesradar/dogs68_01.jpghttp://gamesradar.msn.co.uk/media/gamesradar/dogs68_02.jpg

[games_ fan]

DS stands for "developer's system", right? That's what I heard, but in this IGN editorial (http://psp.ign.com/articles/536/536716p1.html), they refer to it as Dual Screen. I think that Developer's System is a stupid name for a handheld, I bet that the majority of people who get it will think that it stands for Dual Screen.

http://psp.ign.com/articles/536/536716p3.html
The reason for the Nintendo DS' being is its dual screen design (that's what DS stands for, duh).
It DID stand for developers system but since most people thought it meant dual screen for the final name they changed it to that.

That nintendogs dosn't look like a game that can keep me interested for more than a few minutes. At the mo it looks more like a minigame IMO.

[ultimategamer2004]

Yeah i mean there are only a few things you can make a daog do so it probably should be a mini game.

[ultimategamer2004]

American Nintendo DS Games List

A bevy of games are in the works for Nintendo's new handheld...

Nintendo DS™ will rock the Western Hemisphere with an amazing lineup of games, as the video game industry's heavy hitters prepare to support Nintendo's revolutionary dual-screened hand-held innovation. Many of the industry's biggest software companies confirm that they will deliver names like Madden NFL, Viewtiful Joe, Rayman and SpongeBob SquarePants to the Nintendo DS, so players can enjoy their favorite franchises in ways never before possible.

"Publishers worldwide have taken the unique creative tools of our dual-screened Nintendo DS and used them to invent completely new ways to play," says Reggie Fils-Aime, Nintendo of America's executive vice president of sales and marketing. "Just imagine the possibilities that a touch screen, voice recognition and wireless multiplayer action bring to video games."

Upcoming games from publishers like Electronic Arts, Square Enix, Capcom, Atari, Sega, Activision, Konami, Namco, Ubisoft, Vivendi Universal Games, THQ, Majesco and others demonstrate the broad range of support that Nintendo DS enjoys.

"EA's studio teams are working on a lot of great titles for the Nintendo DS," says Steve Chiang, General Manager of EA's Tiburon Studio, which makes Madden NFL.

"With the wireless feature, Madden players will be able to battle one another head-to-head like never before on a portable system."

"From the first time we saw the abilities of the Nintendo DS, we knew we had something extraordinary in our hands," says Will Kassoy, Activision's vice president of global brand management. "Our developers dove right in and made the most of the unique features of this revolutionary new system."

"THQ will be a big supporter of the hand-held Nintendo DS," says Brian Farrell, THQ's president and CEO. "The untapped capabilities demonstrate an exciting leap in hand-held video game technology."

Software companies around the globe have more than 120 Nintendo DS games in development. The following list includes a partial sampling of publishers and Nintendo DS games in development for the Western Hemisphere, with more to be announced in the future. Note that many are working titles, and that the information is subject to change.

Atari, Inc.
- Atari Classics

Atlus USA
- Caduceus
- Snowboard Kids DS
- Plus three additional titles in development

Bandai Entertainment Inc.
- Meteos
- Mobile Suit Gundam Seed
- Plus one additional title in development

Capcom Entertainment, Inc.
- Mega Man Battle Network
- Viewtiful Joe
- Plus one additional title in development

Electronic Arts
- GoldenEye
- Madden NFL
- Need For Speed Underground
- Tiger Woods PGA Tour Golf
- The URBZ: Sims in the City

Hudson Soft Co., Ltd.
- Bomberman

Koei Co., Ltd.
- Dynasty Warriors (working title)
- Plus two additional titles in development

Konami Digital Entertainment
- Boktai (working title)
- Castlevania (working title)
- Dragon Booster (working title)
- Frogger 2005 (working title)
- Survival Kids (working title)
- World Soccer Winning Eleven series (working title)
- Vandal Hearts (working titles)
- WINX (working title)
- Yu-Gi-Oh! Nightmare Troubadour

Majesco
- Moonlight Fables
- Nanostray
- Plus at least three additional titles in development

Namco Hometek Inc.
- New Mr. Driller (working title)
- Pac 'n Roll (working title)
- Pac-Pix (working title)

Orbital Media
- Four titles in development, including the genres of action platformer, strategy role-playing, combat racing and family.

SEGA of America, Inc.
- Project Rub (working title)
- Sonic DS (working title)

Square Enix Co., Ltd.
- A new story of Secret of Mana
- A new story of Slime Morimori Dragon Quest
- Dragon Quest Monsters series
- Egg Monster Heroes
- Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles series

Summitsoft Corporation
- Air Assault 2
- Organizer Plus

Tecmo, Inc.
- Monster Rancher
- Plus one additional title in development

Telegames, Inc.
- Ultimate Brain Games
- Ultimate Card Games
- Ultimate Pocket Games

THQ
- SpongeBob SquarePants
- Plus five additional titles in development

Ubisoft Entertainment
- Asphalt GT
- Rayman
- Plus additional titles in development, including a major movie license for early 2005

Vivendi Universal Games
- Robots

Although this is a US game list it is interesting plus looks like they are going to have a couple of kiddies games in there collection for the NDS i've highlighted just 1 in Red.

Source: www.gamefeed.com

[Gaminglegend]

The DS sure does already have a huge lineup of games for the system. It's good to see all these developers supporting Nintendo in their new system - they must see some great potential in it.

[Mitri]

i'm not sure about this but doesn't the psp have more support than the DS?

[games_ fan]

i'm not sure about this but doesn't the ps have more support than the DS?
In developers or games?

[Mitri]

both

[Gaminglegend]

I believe it is pretty much the same - both have a large number of games in development for it.

[games_ fan]

It's about the same amount of developers but I think the psp has more games anounced i'm not sure though.

[sworder]

The PSP has more games in development than DS.

[ultimategamer2004]

No i will find out but i think that the DS has more games anounced than the PSP i will see. Shame that spongebob squrepants is i there though.

[games_ fan]

Ye it is a shame bout spongebob squarepants but it's for the little kids that buy it eventually there will probably be one for the psp :? :lol:

[ultimategamer2004]

Yeah well rather tyhe little jids than me and oh yeah about the DS and PSP the DS is aimed at 12-18 i think and the psp 18-32 now i think i either have seen these on the net somwhere or the edge DVD but i am sure its the net but i cant remember where. :cry:

[GD|eNSo]

Quick Question:

Okay, probably been answered before. but is the DS going to be released in NA at the end of 04, aswell?

[Mitri]

i'm pretty sure that nintendo has kept their plans to release the DS simultaeusly(i think i spelled that wrong :lol: ) around the world.

[games_ fan]

I thought it was late 2004 in japan and USA and early 2005 everywere else. Not sure though.
EDIT it look like i'm wrong :oops:
Big surprise: Nintendo plans to create a variety of hues for the new system.
August 23, 2004 - According to the latest issue of Nintendo Dream, Nintendo has made mention that there are plans to create different color Nintendo DS systems. No big surprise here since the company has been successful with offering a variety of hues for its systems, ever since the release of the color Game Boy units more than a decade ago.

According to Nintendo: "We are still considering what colors of the DS to release, while also considering the production efficiency. We're thinking of releasing colors that are popular all over the world since the Nintendo DS will be launched simultaneously worldwide."

Currently Nintendo has only offered photos of the Nintendo DS in a gadget-friendly silver color with black buttons. The original Game Boy Advance SP launched in three colors in Japan: Silver, Blue, and Black, with the first two reaching the US in its launch as Platinum and Cobalt. Black was released as Onyx a few months later.
source (http://ds.ign.com/articles/541/541727p1.html)

[ultimategamer2004]

I recon they will release it earlier than that to get some early sales in.

[Mitri]

isn't it going to be released in november?

[games_ fan]

Still not sure about the release date we'll have to wait until nintendo makes an official anouncement about it.
I've heard a lot of people saying what about someone who's left handed heres an answer from ign
Look at the D-pad and Buttons of a Nintendo DS. See how the buttons are laid-out in similar fashion to a D-pad? All it takes is for a programmer to create a "lefty" option that switches the D-pad functions with the button functions. And that's what's going to happen in much of the DS software. So lefties, don't worry.
source (http://ds.ign.com/mail.html)

[Matt]

Nintendo's new portable gets array of accessories from peripheral maker Intec.

Intec, a Miami-based manufacturer of cross-platform video game accessories, announced today that its plans to be the first company to market a line of accessories for the Nintendo DS. The lineup will ship in North America in conjunction with the as-yet-unspecified launch of the hardware and will include a variety of different accessories:

* Road Power Kit ($7.99) – plugs into a car's cigarette lighter/power outlet
* Power Max ($8.99) – a lightweight A/C adapter
* Dock It ($11.99) – an angled display/charging cradle, A/C adapter sold separately
* Safe Case ($11.99) – aluminum case with autolocking slide, nylon strap, and cushion molding
* Leather Hipster ($14.99) – black leather carrying case with magnetic close button and belt clip
* Stylus Pen Set ($8.99) – three heavy-duty stylus pens
* Safe Screens ($4.99) – disposable transparent film liner that protects the DS screen
* Game Buds ($7.99) – stereo earbuds with volume control, mute button, and retractable cord
* Starter Kit ($14.99) – includes Game Buds, Safe Screens, and Road Power Kit.

Source: Gamespot (http://www.gamespot.com/)

[Mitri]

DS Gets Worldwide Voice Chat?
Analysts expect to use the built-in mic and web functionality to yak with friends like a phone.

August 31, 2004 - Analysts have reported that the built-in microphone and 802.11b connectivity will enable users to use the Nintendo DS system as a "voice over IP" style phone system. This feature will essentially allow DS users to chat with each other when they are in a WiFi hotspot. According to this report, the mystery port that Nintendo hinted at a few days ago will be used for a microphone/headphone set that will make this function possible.


The report comes from the TNI Securities Electronic Entertainment Industry Update, an analyst report for video and computer game investors. Boris Markovich makes specific mention in his report: "The headset will allow gamers to use the DS as a phone handset enabling free phone calls over wireless network hotspots. We think that this will be a very compelling application."

The functionality will presumably only work between Nintendo DS systems -- don't expect to use the Nintendo DS to call your buddy on his landline or cellphone via this feature.

When contacted regarding this analyst report, Nintendo representatives stated, "Nintendo does not comment on speculation."


from:

http://ds.ign.com/articles/543/543419p1.html

[neptunez]

http://www.strangeworld.info/upload/download.php?file=5164

[Matt]

Nintendo holding DS press conference

Satoru Iwata and executive Shigeru Miyamoto will present new information on the portable next month.

According to Bloomberg Japan, Nintendo will hold a press conference on October 17 in Japan to announce more details on its DS handheld. The highly anticipated portable is projected to be Nintendo's top product for the holiday season.

Nintendo president Satoru Iwata and executive Shigeru Miyamoto will be attending the press conference. Details on what will be announced are not known, but it is possible that the price and release date of the handheld will finally be disclosed. It is also likely the press conference will be a response of sorts to Sony's executive summit next week, where a PSP announcement is expected.

Source: Gamespot (http://www.gamespot.com/)

[neptunez]

NINTENDO DS LAUNCHES ON NOV. 21 IN NORTH AMERICA - AT $149.99!

New System Comes with Embedded PictoChat Feature, Strong Publishers' Support

REDMOND, Wash., Sept. 20, 2004 - From the very start, Nintendo DS™ broke the existing rules of video game play. Two screens, not one. Wireless connection for game play and personal communication for the sheer entertainment of it. Flexible game control by voice and touch, not just with buttons. Nintendo's newest innovation, Nintendo DS, will make its worldwide debut in North American stores on Nov. 21, and then in Japan on Dec. 2. It will sell at an MSRP of $149.99, making it an immediate mass-market attraction. Nintendo DS will become the company's first system ever to make its sales debut outside of Japan.

"Nintendo's mission remains unchanged: expand the game experience," says Satoru Iwata, president of Nintendo Co., Ltd. "Nintendo DS is the road map to the future of video games, and most clearly demonstrates the type of innovation that players demand."

Nintendo DS is the dual-screened, hand-held video game system redefining the idea of interactive entertainment. One screen allows for touch input using a stylus, while the unit includes both voice recognition and multiplayer wireless features. The sleek silver-and-black system sports a sharp, angular design.

Consumers immediately will be able to pick up and play the new system, as it comes with a free software feature, PictoChat, embedded in the system hardware. PictoChat allows DS owners to write messages with an on-screen keyboard or the stylus and send them wirelessly to other DS users nearby. Users can text chat, draw artistic messages or share secrets, all without saying a word. And a Nintendo DS in sleep mode will spring to life if it senses another DS in transmitting range, alerting users to each other's presence and setting the stage for an impromptu conversation or game session.

More than 100 companies have signed on to create games for Nintendo DS, while Nintendo itself is already developing its first 20 titles. Electronic Arts, the world's largest independent software developer and publisher, already has announced that its powerhouse franchises of Madden NFL, The URBZ: Sims in the City, Need for Speed Underground, Tiger Woods and GoldenEye will support Nintendo DS.

"Each time Nintendo creates a hand-held, it introduces new elements of play and sets a new standard for mobile gaming," says Larry Probst, EA's chairman and CEO. "The DS is no exception - Nintendo has another big winner with the DS."

The complete lineup of games planned for the launch of Nintendo DS will be announced in the near future. In effect, Nintendo DS already boasts a library of more than 550 games because it is compatible with single-player modes of games made for the world's best-selling video game system, Game Boy® Advance SP.

Nintendo chose the United States to lead the worldwide launch of Nintendo DS because of overwhelmingly positive and enthusiastic reaction from consumers and to take advantage of the holiday sales season. After the subsequent launch in Japan, the system will be available in Europe and Australia in the first quarter of 2005.

Nintendo DS has a flip-top cover that protects both screens. Two speakers on the unit's face let users hear virtual surround sound, while its dual screens open games to a multitude of possibilities. Nintendo DS sits 148.7 millimeters (5.85 inches) wide, 84.7 millimeters (3.33 inches) long and 28.9 millimeters (1.13 inches) tall with the cover closed. The new media format for games means that Nintendo DS has no moving parts that could be misaligned if the unit is dropped or jarred.

The worldwide leader and innovator in the creation of interactive entertainment, Nintendo Co., Ltd., of Kyoto, Japan, manufactures and markets hardware and software for its popular home and portable video game systems. Each year, hundreds of all-newtitles for the best-selling Game Boy® Advance, Nintendo DS™ and Nintendo GameCube™ systems extend Nintendo’s vast game library and continue the tradition of delivering a rich, diverse mix of quality video games for players of all ages. Since the release of its first home video game system in 1983, Nintendo has sold more than 1.9 billion video games and more than 170 million hardware units globally, creating enduring industry icons such as Mario™ and Donkey Kong® and launching popular culture franchise phenomena such as Metroid®, Zelda™ and Pokémon®. A wholly owned subsidiary, Nintendo of America Inc., based in Redmond, Wash., serves as headquarters for Nintendo’s operations in the Western Hemisphere.

For more information about Nintendo, visit the company’s Web site at www.nintendo.com.

[limbfilter]

omg...even on thier website! http://www.nintendo.com/newsmain :!:
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

[Fats]

It's official: The Nintendo DS will be released on November 21, 2004 in the US and Canada at the price of $149.99 (around 85 at current exchange rates).

The Japanese release will follow on December 2 and retail at 15,000 yen, then Europe and Australia bring up the rear with a Q1 2005 release. The European price has not yet been confirmed, but sources close to Nintendo expect it to be around 150 or slightly cheaper.

The DS will be the first piece of Nintendo hardware to ever make its retail debut outside of Japan. Nintendo has taken the decision to lead in North America because of "overwhelmingly positive and enthusiastic reaction from consumers and to take advantage of the holiday season".

That's all the hard fact stuff. It gets even better, though. The DS will come bundled with an embedded copy of PictoChat, the software that lets you send rude pictures and offensive messages to up to sixteen people at once using the wireless capabilities of the DS.

The wireless range has been confirmed as 30-100 feet "depending on circumstances". If you stick your DS on Sleep Mode it'll automatically alert you when another DS owner comes within range so you can launch into a game with them or chat secretly with them. Of course, you could just actually talk to them, but you've got a DS so what's the point?

Unsurprisingly the touch screen's inclusion has been confirmed. It measures up with the same specs as the top screen: a 3-inch backlit semitransparent reflective TFT colour LCD with 256 x 192 pixel resolution and .24mm dot pitch, with the ability to display 260,000 colours. And a touch-sensitive pad, obviously.

The DS will support voice recognition too. There is an embedded microphone included and since there's a socket for a mic on the unit you may be able to connect GameCube microphone we showed you yesterday.

Other than that the controls are exactly as they appeared on the finalised design images. A, B, X and Y buttons appear on the face along with the D-pad, and L and R shoulder buttons are positioned on the top of the unit.

Stereo speakers come as standard on the unit and promise "virtual surround sound". There is a headphone socket present on the unit, but Nintendo haven't confirmed whether you'll have to buy one of those wee adaptors you needed for the SP.

The battery is pretty much identical to the little baby that powers the GBA SP: a lithium ion battery delivering up to ten hours of play from a four hour charge.

So there you go, all the confirmed info you could ever want and a couple of new DS images (one showing PictoChat working) to drool over. We recommend you start thinking about your US preorders pretty damn quickly.

We know Nintendo are disseminating more information to their worldwide offices later today, so we'll keep you up to date with any other news as it breaks.

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[The_One]

damn, a mere 150 CDN for a NDS? I might be getting myself a DS instead :D (Actually... that was the plan all along... hehe. PSP is too pricy and too far away for me :P).

[NickSCFC]

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[Mitri]

i wonder how the pricing is going to appeal to parents doing a low budget christmas shopping?

for a handheld oyu pay 150USD but for a home console you pay 100USD... seems kinda backwards if you ask me.

i think it is just a lil bit too expensive(maybe 50USD)

[games_ fan]

Well it is a new system so it will be a bit pricey and after a while it'll drop in price. Still no news on anything in PAL land :x

[kevindenoyette]

consoles don't go for less than 150 clams, except for the gamecube. anyways, the consoles cost like thrice the price they're at now when they were first released, and that didn't stop people from buying them.

[Mitri]

but those were "home consoles". there is a difference.

like the N-Gage nobody bought that because it was too expensive even with all of its features.

[kevindenoyette]

Nobody bought it because it was poorly advertised, it primarily functioned as a phone, which everyone already has anyways, and it was a shit performer at the other function (games), the price was just the icing on the cake

[DappaDizzle]

n-gage suckedddddddddddddddd anyway since this a ds topic i just preorded mine from gamestop

[NickSCFC]

Ridge Racer DS

Though Namco was hesitant in calling this a port of the Nintendo 64 game, I'm guessing that at least it was the game's foundation. It's hard to say, since it's been so long since I've played the Nintendo 64 version of Ridge Racer. I will say that the tracks that I played in the version on display at Nintendo's Gamers Summit definitely reminded me of the original PlayStation version of Ridge Racer, which is good since I really enjoyed the series in its original form.
The Nintendo DS version showed off many elements to the game's design. First of all, it put to use the unique ability to control the game using the touch screen, manipulating a steering wheel for analog control. I can honestly say that, in the few minutes that I played the game, I didn't like it one bit...at least the way it was implemented. The device more looked at how much of the screen the stylus was being dragged across to rotate the steering wheel, instead of looking at the position of the stylus on the screen itself. I found myself slamming into corners simply because you needed to make sure you moved the stylus across as much screen as possible to take sharp turns. It's similar to driving with a mouse on the PC...which seems to work in FPS games as proven with Metroid Prime Hunters. But for driving, this is NOT intuitive.

At the very least, the game looked great running at 30 frames per second, with detailed tracks and vehicles running on the upper screen. It sounded great, too, and the wireless function was spot-on...I was able to race against a second player in the network, and the game supports up to six. The controls were just lousy, and I hope that the developers will start tweaking the game to accomodate better ways of driving the vehicle.

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[limbfilter]

No more surprises as Seattle press event details hit the 'net ahead of time

Full details of the Nintendo DS press conference in Seattle tonight have been leaked ahead of the event, in an embarrassing mishap for the console giant which has revealed all of the firm's planned surprises in one swoop.

Perhaps most exciting is the news that Shigeru Miyamoto will follow his hugely popular appearance at E3 this May, where he unveiled a new Cube Zelda title, with a similar appearance to announce a Legend of Zelda: Four Swords title for DS.

The company also plans to reveal that you'll be able to download games wirelessly from one another and play them together, allowing DS owners to engage in multiplayer using just one cartridge. It's a feature Nintendo calls "Game Sharing".

President Satoru Iwata will then announce that time-restricted demo versions of games will be available to download at retailers, and that the console's connectivity even extends to the silver screen; fans of the Pokémon movies will have bonus materials beamed to their handhelds if they happen to have a Game Boy Advance Pokémon title in the DS' cartridge slot.

A new Pokémon game, Pokémon Diamond, will also be confirmed, while Japanese launch title Pokémon Dash will be demoed to the assembled hacks in Seattle, and the president of the Pokémon Company will demonstrate how to unlock bonuses by inserting GBA Pokémon games into the DS.

Echoing news that emerged from Japan this morning, reports also suggest that Square Enix will confirm that Final Fantasy III - the last untranslated NES RPG in the FF series - will be overhauled and released on the DS.

Shigeru Miyamoto is expected to demonstrate games including Super Mario 64 DS and Nintendogs, while SEGA's Yuji Naka will demo Feel the Magic: XY-XX (formerly Project Rub) and confirm that a Sonic DS title is in development.

Although Nintendo has yet to confirm any of the above details, the detail of the revelations - right down to the order of the speakers - leaves us in little doubt that they're genuine, and that the leak came either from somebody involved in producing the event or a senior member of Nintendo's staff.

Earlier today, the company officially confirmed a preliminary roster of the titles due out in the 30 days following the system's November 21st US launch.


gamesindustry.biz (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/news.php?aid=4796)

[AzNStyle]

check this out
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/movie/syokai.swf

[DappaDizzle]

check this out
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/movie/syokai.swf

these are real nice

[Neon Sentry]

I've been surfing the DS forums, and have been posting a tad...

They are single handedly the most uninformed batch of kiddos I've ever met. They'll post the same question ten times in a row, all with the exact same lack of punctuation

Then they'll spout nonsense about the PSP... they speak ahout it's evils (I"m not kidding) and that Sony is 'tightening it's noose' since the DS has so many better games...

I mean no offense to the DS community, but it's rather annoying

I asked a few questions, and not one was answered... 8 pages into the thread :x

[Neon Sentry]

Hahaha!!!!

I've been posting all of the new PSP info at the Nintendo forums...

Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!

[CrumCon]

LOL give me the web site.. gotta love to see their replies

[NickSCFC]

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I'd poke my stylus up her anyday ;)

[Gaminglegend]

It will certainly catch the attention of men, although I hate these kind of ads which have basicly nothing to do with the actual thing they are trying to sell.

[stanDarsh]

It will certainly catch the attention of men, although I hate these kind of ads which have basicly nothing to do with the actual thing they are trying to sell.

Sony do it all the time! :lol:

[DappaDizzle]

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I'd poke my stylus up her anyday ;)


hell yeah who wouldnt

[Fats]

Someone who may be of a homosexual nature... I believe Nick is one but he is just in denial...

[NickSCFC]

It's not how big your stylus is, it's what you do with it...





big boy ;)

[SS]

check this out
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/movie/syokai.swf

The link doesnt work.
it says 'The requested URL was not found.'

[Neon Sentry]

http://img50.exs.cx/img50/2284/8df3b4b8_NDS.jpg

I'd poke my stylus up her anyday ;)


hell yeah who wouldnt

Not me

[Rallyracr420]

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I'd poke my stylus up her anyday ;)


hell yeah who wouldnt

Not me

Cause she's older than 8? lol

Here's link for anyone who didn't get my joke:
http://www.playstation3insider.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=71956#71956

[Neon Sentry]

Cause she's older than 8? lol

... :|

Do you honestly want me to answer that?

[Fats]

Fucking hell... Back on topic... :? :?

[The_One]

*cough* retards *cough*

On a side note: I wouldn't either :D. She's damn ugly :mrgreen:.
Do you honestly want me to answer that? NO Thank you.

[Matt]

Ahem, back on topic please.