PSP Release on 17.

[patrice]

Hi Guys,

sorry, but my english is not very well.

my question, will the psp ( jap. version ) from the 17 November be able to launch PAL Games, or PAL Movies. ??

Does anybody knows this ?

Thanks for your helping. :D

[freak outcast]

Games Yes
Movies No

[gamingmonkey2004]

umm why wouldnt movies? they are UMDs also so the moive thing is a yes...from me that is

[patrice]

Hi, thanks for your answer.

Is it sure, that this psp can play PAL Games.... but why can´t it play PAL Movies. ??

Thanks for your answers.

[PsP_will_rock]

jap psp will only play jap umd movies and music because they are region coded and games arent

[gamingmonkey2004]

jap psp will only play jap umd movies and music because they are region coded and games arent

they are both UMDs! thats what im saying dude. why would SONY make games not regioned and movies regioned!? its stupid

[draco04]

i'm with gaming monkey that would be just a little bit stupid...so i think it can play both. 8)

[gamingmonkey2004]

thank you! so its not just me that thinks that idea is completly stupid

[kevindenoyette]

Movies ARE region coded, so is music (allegedly). Games aren't. That's just the way it is.

[freak outcast]

Music and movies are region coded because the music and movie companys pretty much tell sony that it has to be region coded because movies and music companys follow diffrent policies then the game industry does...

[draco04]

well if what you say is true....then can you find me a link to a site where they say that i would like to see it for myself....because i think that would be increadably stupid but if they did do that there has got to be a website...that is just so stupid why would they do that....

[kevindenoyette]

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?section_name=pub&aid=3239

search google for "psp region coding".

[freak outcast]

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?section_name=pub&aid=3239

search google for "psp region coding".

cool now i don't need to post the link lol :D

[gamingmonkey2004]

that site is a liar..thats what you said about gameinformer so.
anyway woopty do so you cant watch movies thats a shame cause i wanted to waste battery life on something else anyway

[draco04]

don't be like that they said what they know and i asked for a site and he proved...it helps people learn things and that's what this site is all about so....that is good info.

[gamingmonkey2004]

i know i was being sarcastic. i belive them about the movies even though i think its stupid to region them but anyway i guess this thread is over since everything has been answered

1. games are not regioned
2. movies are regioned
so if you want to watch your American or PAL movies on a Jap PSP your out of luck
there this thread is over

[klaymen]

wait, when did they say when it is coming out in japan? i must have missed it.

[Crono]

Originally it was going to be released in Japan on the 17th or 19th of November. Now they're saying by the end of the year.
According to the Boss of a videogames shop called VideoGames Heaven here in Aus, who was recently shown a PSP playing games from the actual hardware by SONY, the region coding is going to stay the same as it is on PS2, games and movies are both going to be region coded. It sucks, but if SONY said it. It must be true. After all they're the ones making the thing.

[freak outcast]

Originally it was going to be released in Japan on the 17th or 19th of November. Now they're saying by the end of the year.
According to the Boss of a videogames shop called VideoGames Heaven here in Aus, who was recently shown a PSP playing games from the actual hardware by SONY, the region coding is going to stay the same as it is on PS2, games and movies are both going to be region coded. It sucks, but if SONY said it. It must be true. After all they're the ones making the thing.

That "boss" is lying sony never said that :?

[Crono]

They never released the info officially but how long ago was it now that the guy from SONY Europe said that he thinks that games won't be region coded but movies might? As I said, the guy from VGH was shown a working PSP by SONY RECENTLY. Obviously he would've asked a few questions. Well just have to wait for TGS to know for sure.

[gamingmonkey2004]

uhh SONY said there would be no region coding. the only reason there is region coding on movies is because hollywood is gay

[alternate_ending]

Just because SONY have said something doesn't mean its gonna be like that on the final release. For instance, AV output, just like no-regions, was promised by sony in the early stages of development

[gamingmonkey2004]

there are no regioning..its only on movies because holloywood is gay...i have a feeling i might of said this...but there may be a reason there is no AV outoput...maybe you can hook the PSP to the PS2 and play the games through the PS2 you dont know

[alternate_ending]

I'm pretty sure USB isn't at the stage where you'd be able to send all the video data in real time. And if you're saying it willl just load the code on to the PS2 and the PS2 will play it, you're forgetting that the PSP is built to incorporate different graphical techniques, like NURBS and S3TC (texture compression). The PS2 will not handle these well.

Either way, i don't think its a viable option

[PsP_will_rock]

he ment that you plug your psp into ur ps2 and use it like game cubes gba reader

[gamingmonkey2004]

exactly! they already said it can connect to the PS2 and what would be the reason behind that if you cant play the games on it...to make it look cool? there has to be a reason and i think that might be it

[alternate_ending]

With the GBA reader, you essentially plug the cartridge directly into the system, which is pretty different to a USB link up. If they really wanted, SONY could make a UMD reader for the PS2, but remember that the PSP is built almost entirely different to the PS2. In the end the PSP has similar graphics to the PS2, but thats like an average. Some aspects of the PSP are better than the PS2, aspects that are built into the core, like NURBS and S3TC. And don't forget that all the PSP games are built to be run by 2 CPU's. With the Gamecube playing GBA games, there is no aspect of the GBA that surpasses the gamecube, therefore the gamecube can emulate the games perfectly with ease.

All i'm saying is i think the PS2 will struggle with a lot of the graphical tweaks the PSP is built to perform.

And i think the link-up ability will be mainly to share saved games between the PSP and PS2 versions of a given game. Kinda like the mini-games on that thing sony brought out for the PS1, where (for instance) you could use your saved game of FF8 and play a minigame where you breed chocabos while you're out and about. Only far far more advanced.

[PsP_will_rock]

i ment use psp to read disk ( as gba reader reads cartridge) then it transfers info through USB cord (specifally for ps2 psp linkage)($10-15)
and then the ps2 uses its av out cords to transfer picture to your tv

[kevindenoyette]

i dont think the ps2 has usb2.0. so the transfer speed would be,what, 11 mb/s? maybe that's not fast enough. I doubt it is.

[gamingmonkey2004]

i ment use psp to read disk ( as gba reader reads cartridge) then it transfers info through USB cord (specifally for ps2 psp linkage)($10-15)
and then the ps2 uses its av out cords to transfer picture to your tv

there is no AV out
and yea the PS2 has USB..unless im the only one :lol:

[alternate_ending]

Of course it has usb, but whether or not it has USB 2.0 is the question. The transfer speed for USB is around 11MB/s, where as USB 2.0 is more like 480MB/s. I don't even know if 480MB/s would be fast enough. And even if it was fast enough, i son't think the PS2 could process it at the required speed. Also you'd need software updates and drivers to be even able to make it happen. Which it won't. Refer to my above posts for more information
And he said ps2 av output, which certainly is there. How do you connect your PS2 to your TV gaming_monkey?

[gamingmonkey2004]

you dont connect it to the TV..read some other threads
and for the USB thingy the PS2 could download more drivers but you would need the HDD..and i think thats what they might do. because if the HDD is there use it! but maybe thats jsut me thinkin that
http://www.playstation3insider.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3275&start=60

[alternate_ending]

Well, i certainly know that i for one use the AV output that comes out of my PS2 and runs through a little black cord into the AV input of my Tv, at which point, the image the PS2 is outputting is shown on the screen.

And i still think the PS2 won't be able to run a lot of PSP games, even if what you're saying is possible.

[gamingmonkey2004]

the PSP does not have AV out

that good enough!? and you just got through saying that if the PS2 could download drivers and i thought of a way to download drivers.

[limbfilter]

Of course it has usb, but whether or not it has USB 2.0 is the question. The transfer speed for USB is around 11MB/s, where as USB 2.0 is more like 480MB/s. I don't even know if 480MB/s would be fast enough. And even if it was fast enough, i son't think the PS2 could process it at the required speed. Also you'd need software updates and drivers to be even able to make it happen. Which it won't. Refer to my above posts for more information
And he said ps2 av output, which certainly is there. How do you connect your PS2 to your TV gaming_monkey?
You guys need to chill...
First of all, if you are going to spec usb like that at least do it correctly. MB stands for mega bytes....It's actually 11Mbps/480Mbps or Mega bits.
Second, 11Mbps is plenty fast to stream real time...But maybe not for the psp. http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0143046 <This device allows you to steam video from a vcr to your computer via usb1.1. But it's max resolution is 640X480...It would be pushing it to use usb1.1 on the ps2.
I wouldn't worry about it though. If it's not on the psp sony will make a device to do it. Almost as sure as the ps3 will only have 2 controller ports. If sony can make it up as an add on device, ie multitap, then they will do it.

[gamingmonkey2004]

yea like another controller if you really needed to or something. but im sure the PS3 will have something special for the PSP

[alternate_ending]

Of course i know the PSP has no av output, we have both been posting in the thread with the subject stating its official. But this whole time you were saying that the PS2 has no av output.
Oh, and i know the difference between Mb and MB, i just wasn't sure what the USB specs were.
To support USB video screening, the PS2 would have had to have support for it from the beggining.
PS3 will be interesting though, as it should be able to perfectly emulate PSP games

[gamingmonkey2004]

i think either you or me got confused on the PS2 thing. because i was talking about hte PSP having no AV out and you thought i was talking about PS2..something crazy and confusing like that.

[PsP_will_rock]

i ment use psp to read disk ( as gba reader reads cartridge) then it transfers info through USB cord (specifally for ps2 psp linkage)($10-15)
and then the ps2 uses its av out cords to transfer picture to your tv

there is no AV out
and yea the PS2 has USB..unless im the only one :lol:

ps2 (note the 2 not the P) has av out
and i know ps2 has usb i ment sony would make a special psp's usb to ps2's usb and somehow improve the transfer rate

[gamingmonkey2004]

ok...well i guess is got confused

[PseudoChron]

Of course it has usb, but whether or not it has USB 2.0 is the question.
It's USB 2.0.
http://www.pspinsider.com/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=14
Main Input/Output:
IEEE 802.11b (Wi-Fi)
USB 2.0 (Target)
Memory Stick™ PRO Duo
IrDA
IR Remote (SIRCS)

[gamingmonkey2004]

i think what he ment was that if the PS2 had USB2.0 cause he already knew that hte PSP had USB2.0 i think but latly ive been bad about understanding

[DappaDizzle]

thats probley the reason

[gamingmonkey2004]

thats probley the reason

how is anyone suppose to reply to this?...o wait i did