Gran Turismo 5

[TEEDA]

Polyphony Digital also announced the development of Gran Turismo 5 for PlayStation 3, the game will have damage model for the first time, to make the game more realistic. GT5 will support the EyeToy camera, you can take pictures of a car and the game can use it to build a custom car."


source : themagicbox

[kevindenoyette]

holy shit.

[GUNDAMSEED]

holy shit.

could not have said better myself GT5 is going kick so much ass.

[stanDarsh]

There already is a GT5 topic, and Nick has already posted the same information there.

[TEEDA]

Hop , sorry , didn t see .

[Domination]

Polyphony Digital also announced the development of Gran Turismo 5 for PlayStation 3, the game will have damage model for the first time, to make the game more realistic. GT5 will support the EyeToy camera, you can take pictures of a car and the game can use it to build a custom car."


source : themagicbox

To my understanding, Sony is making it to where we will be able to fine-tune our own cars. With Damage physics included, this could be revolutionary.

[TEEDA]

Polyphony Digital also announced the development of Gran Turismo 5 for PlayStation 3, the game will have damage model for the first time, to make the game more realistic. GT5 will support the EyeToy camera, you can take pictures of a car and the game can use it to build a custom car."


source : themagicbox

To my understanding, Sony is making it to where we will be able to fine-tune our own cars. With Damage physics included, this could be revolutionary.

I think they tried to say that if you take a picture of any car , the game will me able to model it in full 3D with an advanced eye ty technology .
and with this modeled car you could tune it .

[Domination]

Polyphony Digital also announced the development of Gran Turismo 5 for PlayStation 3, the game will have damage model for the first time, to make the game more realistic. GT5 will support the EyeToy camera, you can take pictures of a car and the game can use it to build a custom car."


source : themagicbox

To my understanding, Sony is making it to where we will be able to fine-tune our own cars. With Damage physics included, this could be revolutionary.

I think they tried to say that if you take a picture of any car , the game will me able to model it in full 3D with an advanced eye ty technology .
and with this modeled car you could tune it .

That's what i was tlking about. I have to see how it works before passing final judgement.

[kevindenoyette]

i guess you could take a picture of the front of the car, sides, and back, and then upload those and let the ps3 sort it out.

[amod20002004]

I think they tried to say that if you take a picture of any car , the game will me able to model it in full 3D with an advanced eye ty technology .
and with this modeled car you could tune it .
What a revolutionary idea. Teeda you are brilliant. :D

[Z]

you are forgetiing another exciting feature, other than car turn-overs,that is how crashes are intended. they will built car parts seperatly so when it crashes, evey part will have its own individual physics. that said, crashes may not get repeated like today's fixed car damages.

[amod20002004]

you are forgetiing another exciting feature, other than car turn-overs,that is how crashes are intended. they will built car parts seperatly so when it crashes, evey part will have its own individual physics. that said, crashes may not get repeated like today's fixed car damages.
Yes, it looks like GT5 will provide experience of 100% real driving simulator. Man, I am so excited, I want ps3, Yes, I will buy ps3 in first month from it’s debut. :D

[TEEDA]

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they said weather effecsts also will be included . and enhanced since the last versions .

[amod20002004]

Yes, but I think they already have shown realistic weather effect in GT4. So how could they improve this feature, which is already, has been shown almost realistically in GT4.

[Z]

well, thee is always room for graphic improvement. plus they can make the weather effect the driving and vision more accurately; sliding, breaking, and so on.
here's a thought: rain will leak inside they car, get scattered in the youe eyes, your vision drops very low, you lose control, slide and make a crazy crash. :shock:
...talk about excitement!

[amod20002004]

well, thee is always room for graphic improvement. plus they can make the weather effect the driving and vision more accurately; sliding, breaking, and so on.
here's a thought: rain will leak inside they car, get scattered in the youe eyes, your vision drops very low, you lose control, slide and make a crazy crash. :shock:
...talk about excitement!
Lol I have never thought by that way. Yes I really hope that they will find something revolutionary on realistic weather effect department.

[Bo408]

Polyphony Digital also announced the development of Gran Turismo 5 for PlayStation 3, the game will have damage model for the first time, to make the game more realistic. GT5 will support the EyeToy camera, you can take pictures of a car and the game can use it to build a custom car."


source : themagicbox
I have a GT in mind :o :o :o

[gryphon]

what sort of weather effects does GT4 have, because i havent seen any screenshots of rain or fog or anything...the only thing ive seen is the Nursnow course, but i dont know if it will actually snow or there is just snow on the ground...anyone have any information or a link about GT4 weather effects?

[DappaDizzle]

all i know iz that look beautiful

[Z]

It has what is called “realistic weather effects”. This is the best weather effects that are currently made. Another game that has this is Ace Combat5. Check up any title with ‘real time weather effects’ and you can compare it with other titles, which usually have ‘fixed’ weather effects- you don’t feel the weather is real. It is more like pre-set, or staged.
Also, in games like GT, weather actually effects driving; the more rain the more slippery the tracks get, and so on.

[Illmatic]

Theres only one thing i don't like about the GT series, and thats the dust effects. They seem less than impressive, they're too plain and 2d, they need to be hardout so it gives you a sense of tearin up the dirt or gravel.
I'd like to see this improved in GT5 and maybe bodykits would be good too.

In GT3 you couldn't race your suped up car in the 2 player split screen, that was bit of a downer, i hope this will be changed.

Car damage has really been the only missing ingrediant for GT, don't know how they're gona persuade the car manufacturers to agree to it.

[DappaDizzle]

move this to the GT5 TOPIC

[Z]

Continue GT5 discussion here.

[the_prophet]

Polyphony Digital also announced the development of Gran Turismo 5 for PlayStation 3, the game will have damage model for the first time, to make the game more realistic. GT5 will support the EyeToy camera, you can take pictures of a car and the game can use it to build a custom car."


source : themagicbox

they also need to add an interior camera angle (like the old need for speed) where you can see the drivers hand changing gears and you can see the dash board.

[lilkoy123]

Polyphony Digital also announced the development of Gran Turismo 5 for PlayStation 3, the game will have damage model for the first time, to make the game more realistic. GT5 will support the EyeToy camera, you can take pictures of a car and the game can use it to build a custom car."


source : themagicbox
Are these features all confirmed for GT5?? Speculation? Where's the article/news on the source? I can't find it. :?

[julps31]

This GT is gonna be crazy. Man I always thought that the lack of damage modeling was because of the PS1 and PS2s power rather than getting rights from the car company. Especially now that they including it in the PS3 version. They probably wanted the best damage modeling possible or nothing at all. And i'm guessing that they'll have an in-car view too. The best or none at all. Especially since they want to focus on the human element. I can't wait to see GT5 on PS3. Well we have to wait for the first screens or info.

[senas8]

Well..... what about taking a picture of yourself and have the driver look like you?

[Pina]

I´ve seen some software packages that turn fotos into 3d models, they use it for buildings. Personally it looks crap, the tuning that you have to do to the final model is stupid, it is faster to model it myself. And most of the software packages only use your fotos and cram it on the side of boxes.

Personally i don´t think that is yet possible for such a complex model as a car, with interiors, wheels, doors and physics damage model to be made that way.

[Coded-Dude]

Well..... what about taking a picture of yourself and have the driver look like you?

genius! :)

[threepac3]

This GT is gonna be crazy. Man I always thought that the lack of damage modeling was because of the PS1 and PS2s power rather than getting rights from the car company. Especially now that they including it in the PS3 version. They probably wanted the best damage modeling possible or nothing at all. And i'm guessing that they'll have an in-car view too. The best or none at all. Especially since they want to focus on the human element. I can't wait to see GT5 on PS3. Well we have to wait for the first screens or info.

But how could this be true if other games are capable of doing it?

[julps31]

This GT is gonna be crazy. Man I always thought that the lack of damage modeling was because of the PS1 and PS2s power rather than getting rights from the car company. Especially now that they including it in the PS3 version. They probably wanted the best damage modeling possible or nothing at all. And i'm guessing that they'll have an in-car view too. The best or none at all. Especially since they want to focus on the human element. I can't wait to see GT5 on PS3. Well we have to wait for the first screens or info.

But how could this be true if other games are capable of doing it?I said the best possible or nothing. Think Motor Storm compared to GTA (not the best comparison) in terms of damage. I know Burn Out has crazy damage but its not that realistic. They want every inch of the car destructable and PS2 couldn't do it. Just a possibility.

[theFUTURE]

Is it just me or was GT4 a total let-down? I mean it had great graphics, good physics, and every car you ever wanted(BMW M-series). But as far as the game went, it was still the same old tired GT. There was no on-line, nothing really new to the simulation mode, the arcade mode was even worse, no car damage and some of the crappiest AI I've ever seen. GT3 is by far my fave, its the only GT that i got 100% completion. With the new GT5, i really hope they just dont add graphical enhancements. I feel that Forza is pretty good competition to GT, and we wont see the same rehashed game. But who knows, they might spend most of their time improving photo mode.(What a peice of $H!T. It feels good to get this off my chest.) I know a lot of you will disagree with me, especially the fanatics(I used to be one) but it had to be said.

[makeitlookreal]

The main improvement I want to see is that people don't run out of the way. I want this racing game to allow you to impact EVERYTHING.

[trakais]

how is that going to be realistic ? :) if a car is coming straight at you, would you just stand there and watch it hit you? you need carmageddon, not GT

[imported_Amadeus]

-quote]If a car is coming straight at you, would you just stand there and watch it hit you?[/quote]

:lol:

Can't wait to see this game in motion.

[dantruon]

What do you guy think the level of graphic that GT5 will bring to us? You think it will outdo Project Gotham Racing on the Xbox 360 in term of graphic alone.

Having said that I think GT5 will have very realistic physic and ai.

[F089/H]

Is it just me or was GT4 a total let-down? I mean it had great graphics, good physics, and every car you ever wanted(BMW M-series). But as far as the game went, it was still the same old tired GT. There was no on-line, nothing really new to the simulation mode, the arcade mode was even worse, no car damage and some of the crappiest AI I've ever seen. GT3 is by far my fave, its the only GT that i got 100% completion. With the new GT5, i really hope they just dont add graphical enhancements. I feel that Forza is pretty good competition to GT, and we wont see the same rehashed game. But who knows, they might spend most of their time improving photo mode.(What a peice of $H!T. It feels good to get this off my chest.) I know a lot of you will disagree with me, especially the fanatics(I used to be one) but it had to be said.


That is word for word,everything i feel about GT4

[Fats]

I'd take GT4 over GT3 anyday, but I'll admit that GT4 doesn't offer much more over it's Predecessor. The one thing that annoys me in general with the GT series is - When you win an FR league for example, you win an FR car. Would is not make sense to win a FF car or something so that we can use it to compete in the FF league? Another thing, there's simply too many cars that go to waste in GT4. They should concentrate more on implementing the best motors from around the world rather than sticking Japanese cars that your grandparents would drive in the game.

[Hardcore Gamer]

What do you guy think the level of graphic that GT5 will bring to us? You think it will outdo Project Gotham Racing on the Xbox 360 in term of graphic alone.

Having said that I think GT5 will have very realistic physic and ai.
While I'm not a fan of driving simulators, this is Polyphony Digital we're talking about here. IMO GT4 is right there with Forza in terms of visuals and it's (GT4) on inferior hardware. I've heard a few people say GT4 looks better. It just shows the skill of PD.

[Metal Sphere]

While I'm not a fan of driving simulators, this is Polyphony Digital we're talking about here. IMO GT4 is right there with Forza in terms of visuals and it's (GT4) on inferior hardware. I've heard a few people say GT4 looks better. It just shows the skill of PD.

Yeah, quite a few reviewers and gamers have said that GT4 looks more realistic mainly because of the lighting. Not only that, but Polyphony Digital squeezed quite a bit out of PS2 to keep the difference between the two games to a minimum. IMO, their drive and enthusiasm with cars and racing coupled with up-to-date and capable hardware will only have us amazed at their final product.

[Domination]

What do you guy think the level of graphic that GT5 will bring to us? You think it will outdo Project Gotham Racing on the Xbox 360 in term of graphic alone.

Having said that I think GT5 will have very realistic physic and ai.

Put it this way, dantruon: the RSX will most likely not be working alone to build complex environments for PS3 games, and from what I am hearing and seeing of the Cell, it's going to push physics very far. So, unless the developers working on the next GT game are just not as experienced as the developers working on PGR3, I would say that the next GT game will be at least where PGR3 is at right now.

[Z]

hog wash! how can anyone compare GT to PGR? if yo want to compare others to GT use similar 'simulation racers' like Enthusia, TOCA, and Forza.

having said that, GT is -by far- the benchmark in racing simulation in every aspect. heck, crazy arcade racers don't even have half of the car or road nomber of GT.
also, since you are talking about graphics, GT has the best graphics on any platform. not even PC games could touch it. even MS try in the genre with Forza, the game still didn't look as good as GT though Xbox has better graphics than PS2.

to note; Forza doen not compete with GT no matter what since they are both on two different platforms. if you want to compete, you need to be on the same platform. so by that, it is more suitable to compare GT to Enthusia, TOCA and the few others.

another thing to keep in mind is that Polyphony Digital- the creators of GT- are crazy perfectionests. that is why a GT game takes God knows how long to come out.

on the the topic of GT5, Polyphony already said it will be on PS3 and that even the cars' underneath will be realistically copied, since the cars no can flip over. another thing concerning physics is that GT will ,for the first time, have crash simulation. yes, you read right, not 'car crashes' but 'simulated' crashes. the car models will have individual parts so that in a crash, each part will have its own physics and its own movements and effects- just like real life crashes. by that, no two crashes will look alike. there is no more 'fixes' damaged models.

add all that up to the fact that PS3 WILL be the most powerful system, and you can easily see that GT5 will be the most realistic looking, most realistic handling racer ever made.

by that, you will be lucky if you see it befor two yars from PS3's launch! yes, I know: outch. but HELL it would be worth the wait.

[Metal Sphere]

Hmm, Z, if we go by Gran Turismo's record so far, we'll see it in 2 1/2 years. We see 2 GTs per console.

[CrumCon]

GT5 should surpass Motorstorm in term of graphics, it must have life-look gfx. We pretty got some % with GT4.. ;)

but man.. with pressure from Microsoft, sony's studias around the world are working their ass off for ps3 right now.

[Metal Sphere]

Yeah, like I've said before, we're seeing the resurrection of the Sony that took Nintendo and Sega's places. Well, the graphics would have to be at the bare minimum at Motorstorm level. Polyphony Digital is a first party developer, and like other developers that are either first party or close to Sony, they've had dev kits for a while now (and get other incentives/newer kits) before the rest.

Given the amount of time they'll have, we should have something awesome in our hands. I wouldn't be surprised if the mud is even more realisitic than that shown in Motorstorm. What was mentioned before was the dust in GT games. It's too thin and lacks volume. If they tweaked it and added some pebbles and stuff, it'd be great.

And one last thing... the cars available. They need to cover a wider array of cars. We're still lacking exotics and I fear with the increased realism in crashes that the manufacturers won't give GT the go ahead.

[Domination]

I was thinking motorcycles, but Motor Storm came along and beat me to it. However, I would like to see more customization and a few sports cars none related to Nascar to make an appearance in the next GT game. I also noticed a lack of 4x4s in the GT series. Maybe they'll be what developers add as micro-payments for the next game.As far as visual quality goes, I'm just not sure what else to expect other than damaged fuel lines and tanks since Motor Storm covered mainly everything else.

[jaxmkii]

Yes, but I think they already have shown realistic weather effect in GT4. So how could they improve this feature, which is already, has been shown almost realistically in GT4. dynaic weather the race starts out sunny and dry but may not end that way. How about day to night to day for the 24 enduros???

[Z]

continue GT5 discussion here.

"100 times more detailed" ? hope they'll show at least stills in TGS (19 days to go!)

[Theo]

continue GT5 discussion here.

"100 times more detailed" ? hope they'll show at least stills in TGS (19 days to go!)


I'm also hoping that! Can't wait!... If it really will be "100 times more detailed", I'm wondering how good it actually would look. The so called photorealism in real time (...oh man...the countless discussions about it...hehehe) could be very close, if not achieved with GT5...We'll just have to wait and see.

[saxdawg00]

Polyphony Digital should make Omega Boost 2 for PS3

[FerrianX]

I'm also hoping that! Can't wait!... If it really will be "100 times more detailed", I'm wondering how good it actually would look. The so called photorealism in real time (...oh man...the countless discussions about it...hehehe) could be very close, if not achieved with GT5...We'll just have to wait and see.

I bought GT4 the day it came out, but never really went all the way into it until only a few weeks ago. I have to admit the graphics are great, hell the best compared to any game out there IMO... however I can see where they'd improve on graphics.

We might not see so much change on the cars themselves as they are pretty damn amazing... but maybe more in the background. The cars themselves stand out in the courses they drive in, maybe it's time to bring out the backgrounds alittle more, and even it out.

I'm not sure if this is the case, but at least from my point of view the buildings in the city courses are all bump mapped. Also it wouldn't hurt to put some better looking fans, instead of the paper we get now... if not for the whole course at least for the one's that jump out on the roads (rally races) to take pictures.

As an avid GT series fan I could only dream of photo realistic gameplay, but as a realistic gamer.... I don't think we'll quite get there in the upcoming generation.

Polyphony Digital should make Omega Boost 2 for PS3

If there isn't another installment for Zone of Enders, then Omega Boost would be a very nice surprise / replacement... who knows what's in store for the future

[Metal Sphere]

Actually, the fans that run out on the track in GT4's rally modes are the only ones that are actually 3-D. I have to agree that the environments could use some sprucing up. You could have the trees actively rustle as you roar by, gravel going every which way (correctly), accurate dust clouds, realtime whether effects, a realistic progression of time, etc..

Personally, the cars still have quite a ways to go to. The tires need to have that bulge where they meet the round, and the subtle details of the cars need to be fleshed out some more. Also, the engine sounds. It's pathetic that most of the cars sound like V6s with an aftermarket exhaust. And of course, real time damage that actually cripples your car if you damaged it enough.

Then there's things like sound effects and music which get overlooked even though they're crucial to the game.

[Killing Moon]

..........that's it? Damage and images on cars? Um.....don't we HAVE this already? Sorry, but where's the excitement, again?

[Killing Moon]

Is it just me or was GT4 a total let-down? I mean it had great graphics, good physics, and every car you ever wanted(BMW M-series). But as far as the game went, it was still the same old tired GT. There was no on-line, nothing really new to the simulation mode, the arcade mode was even worse, no car damage and some of the crappiest AI I've ever seen. GT3 is by far my fave, its the only GT that i got 100% completion. With the new GT5, i really hope they just dont add graphical enhancements. I feel that Forza is pretty good competition to GT, and we wont see the same rehashed game. But who knows, they might spend most of their time improving photo mode.(What a peice of $H!T. It feels good to get this off my chest.) I know a lot of you will disagree with me, especially the fanatics(I used to be one) but it had to be said.

Don't feel bad, dude. I used to be a GT fanatic as well; you're not alone. I completely understand where you're coming from now.

[Metal Sphere]

..........that's it? Damage and images on cars? Um.....don't we HAVE this already? Sorry, but where's the excitement, again?

The game's 2 years off, and seeing what PD's done with 2 years on shoddy hardware, there's a lot to be excited about. And yes, GT4 was a serious letdown for most.

[.®]

i'm sorry but i hate to say this - Gran Turismo has become the zelda of car racing games or for xbox fans the halo of racing(sic). honestly if you have a ps2 there is gt4 and nothing else nothing even comes close, so at the end of the day if you really want to drive simulation your still stuck with GT4. Personally i only play two racing games and thats burnout & GT. and i for one don't really want car damage in GT simply because like everything else it'll have to be as real to life as possible, and wrecking my 787B after breaking late for a corner would make me cry like a baby, but that's just me.

[Fats]

I personally think that GT4 IS the best racing simulator on the market today, but it really isn't without its faults. Hopefully, Polyphony will pull their finger out this time round for GT5!

[Z]

GT is a series, that is why you will find many common things in all the games. GT4 is the best in car simulation games ever. on any platform.
as for having no choice other than GT if you are a car simulation racer fan, that isn't true. you have the TOCA series, Enthusia, that Tokyo extreme racer from Sega, and may even include Automodalista (now that is a very cool name!). I didn't play the last much but then again, simulation is not my thing. I take Burnout anyday. I only play GT as a grphical showcase. I love to see what my 5 year old PS2 can do that not even PC or Box games match.

finally, as for GT5: this is a new generation, so anything could happen. even if they only perfected the graphics that alone would be enough. this is a new gen system and not a slightly improved PS2 version. I also hope an online version will be available from the start.

[Killing Moon]

GT is a series, that is why you will find many common things in all the games. GT4 is the best in car simulation games ever. on any platform.

No, not quite.
GTR FIA Racing is the most realistic title on any platform (PC). Gran Turismo is realistic, TO AN EXTENT, but caters more to Japanese cars than anything else.

[O.D.S]

^ your right there killing moon,
Thats just one thing i wouldnt mind seeing in GT5...More Exotics from US, and EU

[Z]

I didn't mean in one aspect but as a whole. if you want one thing, GT is certainly the most graphically impressive game since...since it came out really.
thinking of that, I wonder if Polyphony ONLY makes GT...

[CARTIER90]

There should be a free roaming GT, like the upcoming Test drive unlimited which has a 'design your own course' option to it (basically selecting anything up to a 1000 km trip !!) However TDU will only have pseudo-realistic physics. Combine the freedom and the physics and bon apetite.

[Darkon]

I didn't mean in one aspect but as a whole. if you want one thing, GT is certainly the most graphically impressive game since...since it came out really.
thinking of that, I wonder if Polyphony ONLY makes GT...

GT series are the only games they make

[Killing Moon]

I didn't mean in one aspect but as a whole. if you want one thing, GT is certainly the most graphically impressive game since...since it came out really.
thinking of that, I wonder if Polyphony ONLY makes GT...

Well, it was the most graphically impressive racer....for a small while.
That is until Criterion pissed on their engine (like they do to EVERYONE) and released the Burnout Revenge demos.

Seriously, GT4 looks great (with flaws), but Burnout Revenge? That's just another level of graphics design altogether.

I'm a heavy gear-head, car buff myself, but even I know that GT4 doesn't have much going for it other than "proper suspension simulation", really. Even their engine upgrade logistics are twisted all to hell (NA'ing a Viper nets 1000hp? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight, okay).

GT4 is really only good for "time attack" tests and that's really it. Check out GTPlanet for further proof on that one; it's the only real gameplay subject. Well, that and suspension tuning.

'Not sayin' that GT4 isn't a good game, it's just that........well, 'er, okay....maybe it really isn't a "good" game, but merely "okay" at best nowadays. Maybe if this were the PSOne, it would be accepted.

Actually, nevermind on that point too; GT2 had better gameplay content than GT4 does to this day.

Sad. :sleepy:

[Fats]

I was never THAT impressed with the graphics of Burnout 3 onwards. I've always preferred the much more sutle detail within GT4, but perhaps thats because I'm an automotive geek that strives for realism.

Burnout Revenge
http://www.armchairempire.com/images/previews/multi-platform/burnout-revenge/burnout-revenge-1.jpg

GT4
http://wirelessdigest.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/gran_turismo_4_1_7.jpg

[Killing Moon]

I was never THAT impressed with the graphics of Burnout 3 onwards. I've always preferred the much more sutle detail within GT4, but perhaps thats because I'm an automotive geek that strives for realism.


I feel you on the realism bit, but I've been loving racing games much longer than personally being a gear-head. Until I see something wrong with it and hear the game's soundtrack, Burnout Revenge feels on par w/ Ridge Racer Type 4 as one fo the best racing games available.

If you're really looking for realism, you should be playing GTR. GT4 only simulates suspension and weight physics, really.

[O.D.S]

specialpro, your GT4 pic aint coming up

[Fats]

specialpro, your GT4 pic aint coming up


Strange, it is for me... It must not like you Duga! :aim:-):

[O.D.S]

Its up now (its very frustrating using a 56K modem!)

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