Rob78
12-19-2004, 01:28 PM
I know this is definately not an original thread idea but heres my ideas for the next GTA. I have done my best to expand fully on my ideas, and not to repeat anything that has been discussed thoroghly previously:
LONG READ WARNING. VERY LONG READ.
--Preface--
I am assuming that it will be on the PS3, and also assuming some of the hardware on the PS3. Nothing too technical, but I'm sure it will have much better graphics, more RAM, and that it will use Blu-Ray Discs. These discs hold about 25GB on single layer and 50GB on dual layer. This is more than 10 times that of respective DVD's, so much more space is available.
--Name--
First of all I think it should be called GTA 6, rather than GTA -Insert Place Name-. I feel this is a tradition for new consoles, despite it only happening once. I also think that the size of map in a PS3 GTA would be so big that it could not be covered by a single state or name, so GTA 6 works quite well.
--Location--
There has been much discussion on the location of the next GTA, and most people are suggesting 3 cities for one game. With a disc which can hold 10 times as much as a DVD I would say the map should maybe be 5 times as big, as to allow for anything else which is necessary. My opinion is that the whole map should be an anachronism of America (North and South), and Canada. There are so many aspects which people have been hoping for and this could contain them all: Snow, Jungle, Desert, Countryside, Forests, Mountain Ranges, City, Slums, Ghettos, etc. I must stress that I do not want a map shaped like the real world America/Canada, just the general layout and location of cities, mountains, jungle, etc. In what would be South America I would have a Rio de Janeiro copy, which would contain huge slums, terrible famine and a large tourist city, a parody of Columbia, which would be drug dealers central, a jungle equivelant of the Amazon Rainforest, and a mountain range stretching the West coast. Moving upwards, between the South and the North, there would be a Mexico type city, and also a small republican island to be like Cuba. In what would be the US there would be a multitude of cities such as Chicago, New York, Texas, California, Florida, Washington, Mexico, Detroit and Boston. The dilemma is what to do about California, New York and Florida, as these have already been used. They could be redone to be different cities, but as most of their identifiable features have been used along with them they probably wouldnt be very interesting. However I would include San Andreas as is to represent the West, but redo New York and Florida into completely new cities. My reasons for this are as follows: San Andreas is such a complete place. It has everything which represents its respective cities. Liberty City was not based upon New York as much as San Andreas, so I think it could be redone into a bigger, fuller replica. Although many aspects of Miami were included in Vice City, its downfall is it is only Miami, as opposed to all of Florida. Also it is set in the 80's. As I believe GTA 6 should be set in the late 90's/early 00's, it would have changed dramatically, so it could be redone tactfully. Moving upwards again, where Canada would be, I would have deep forests and a Toronto like city. In the top left I see an Alaska type place with snow and oil fields. Also I want an Alcatraz type prison, valleys, swamps and a volcano. Thats about it. I know it sounds a lot, but remember how much space is available on these new discs.
--Graphics--
My only hope for the graphics is for them to improve, but not too dramatically. I believe that truly realistic graphics would ruin the GTA feel. I would like to see more objects modelled in 3D, rather than textures being used. Im not sure if this comes under graphics but i would like to see more free moving objects, such as jackets blowing in the wind or flags. Also more realistic and detailed damage models, i.e. Cars crumpling. The landscape should also be more destructable, with damagable buildings, trees which can be chopped down and movable earth.
--Character--
I think the main character should be a young man in his late teens. He lives in the slums with his large family, and is the youngest of his many brothers, and all are into petty crime. He is put down by them and disrespected by them, but he gradually gains their respect as he moves up the criminal ladder.
--Storyline--
I have not really thought about this aspect in detail, despite it being a big one. My only thought is someone starting out in the slums in Rio de Janiero, and making it big. I really like the ideas of starting out in the slums and I think it would be quite easy to get attatched to a character from them.
--Missions--
Heres where I'll put down my thoughts for certain fun missions.
-A chase through the slums, hopping fences and jumping over houses.
-A mission where you jump off the dam (a la "The Fugitive")
-For part of the game you are imprisoned in Alcatraz, and there are a series of missions leading up to your escape. Each one would be a part of organising your escape, like attaining a key or some plans of the ventilation ducts. This could be a use for the screwdriver.
--R3 Missions--
First of all I know there are people who wish these to be excluded from upcoming GTA's. I personally believe they are one of the most important parts of GTA's as there give so much more freedom to do other things. They can get repetetive or tedious, but all the same i would not contemplate getting rid of these for a second. Now onto the list. The usuals should be included: Taxi, Vigilante, Paramedia, Firefighter, Pimping, Robbing Houses, Freight Train, Valet Parking, Trucker, Courier. Here are my new ideas:
Bus Driver - Be a bus driver
Breakdown Service - Go in a pickup truck and take wrecked cars to the scrapyard.
Emergency Rescue - Go and save stranded people from far reach places (mountains, countryside, desert).
Gunrunner - Take stolen guns to people.
Firefighter - New fire helicopters which drop water on forest fires.
Delivery Service - Take trucks of goods or vehicle delivery rigs to destinations.
Hunter - Hunt certain animals (for zoos possibly)
Logger - Cut down trees using machine
Ice Cream - Just like in Vice City
Freight Plane - Deliver goods by air.
Hitman - Be a cleaner.
Chauffeur - As with taxis, but with famous people.
--Miscellaneous Features--
More Weapons - Smoke Bomb Grenade, Axe, Flare Gun, Cane Gun, Plastic Explosives, Rope, Spear Gun, Tranquiliser Gun, Bow and Arrow, Crossbow, Chinese Throwing Stars, Net Gun, Nunchucks, Mace, Pickaxe, Sledge Hammer, Snow Axe, Tommy Gun, Saw, Spears
More Vehicles - Usable Diggers, Snowmobiles, Go-karts, Various Construction Vehicles, Formula 1 Cars, Hot Rods, Tricycles, Maibatsu, Original Dodo, Classic Vehicles from older games, Wood Chipper, Wood Saw, Wrecking Ball
More Asset Missions - Banks, Casinos, Bookies, Car Dealerships, Newspapers, Taxi, Chauffeur, Film Studio, Bar, Hotel, Logger, Hunter, Ice Cream, Quarry, Clothes Shop, Jewellers, Oil Tycoon, Manager/Agent, Nuclear Power Plant
Revamped Drive-By's - Be able to shoot in other directions, by pressing L3 once to hang out the window, and move the right analog stick to move about. As usual L1 to fire. This is in addition to the classic drive-by method.
Revamped Wanted System - This definately need to be redone, the police in San Andreas were so easy to evade it made chases no fun. There should definately be more levels of being wanted, and it should be much harder to get away with crime in the city. There has been talk about a bar to replace the stars and I think this is the way it should be simply for the fast that there are more than the 6 discreet values in previous GTA's. I also had the idea about Private Investigators who will snoop around at certain times in the game looking for evidence for a crime. A message will pop up saying "The police are looking around the warehouse. Go and move the plans for the heist." You will then have a certain time to get it out.
Emergency Vehicle Crane - As in GTA 3, you take Emergency Service Vehicles to a crane a the docks, and you need to get them all to complete it.
More Military Vehicles - Have a full range of military vehicles including a Gyrocopter, Stealth Plane, Stealth Boat, B52 Bomber, Hovercraft, Boats, More planes.
More Mini Games - Be able to play more games, like Basketball and Pool in San Andreas. Theses could be Baseball, Pinball, More Arcade Games, Golf, Surfing, Bowling, Fishing.
More Methods of Transport - Skateboard, More Bikes, Scooters, Skates, Segway, Jet Skis, Pedal Boats, Microlites, Skis, Snowboards, Sledges, Submarines
Paintball Gun Fights - Have an arena where you go into competition.
Larger Boats - Ability to buy Private Yachts and save your games on them. Also allow piloting of cruise ships and tankers.
Flowing Water - This should definately be included as it would make for some really interesting missions. There should be rivers and waterfalls that actually have a moving current and undertow, aswell as water soming out dams. I also think there should be a sewer system.
Robbing Museums - I'd have various Museums in the game and ability to steal valuble works or art as part of a robbery mission. There could also be news alerts about the thefts on the radio, which would be cool.
Better Safe Houses - The safehouses in San Andreas were a let down at best. They were mostly the same as each other and there wasnt much to do. There should be plenty to do in your house, and you should be able to eat. They should all be different aswell.
Underwater Exploration - The seascape should be interesting with underwater canyons and a coral reef and there should be the ability to use oxygen tanks and flippers to scubadive.
More Usable Objects - Have useful objects which serve a purpose, like the fire extinguisher in San Andreas. These could be Binauculars to spy on someone, a Screwdriver to unscrew a vent cover or undo bolts in a car, a Crowbar to open a door or a box
Edge of Space - As you get higher it will seem darker and you will be able to see the curvature of the earth. To link in with this I think there should be a copy of the NASA space centre, but going into space is not an option. There could be antigravity chambers in NASA which could be cool.
Animals - I dont see why these cannot be included. They are used in other games and can be killed in games like Resident Evil (even though they are zombies). If killing them is out of the question then I think hunting should be included. Weapons like the tranquiliser gun and net gun could be used and it would be a matter of sneaking up and staying quiet.
Private Island - As you progress and get bigger I think you should capture the Cuba style island and take it as your own. It would be the centre of your operations.
Ragdoll Physics - These are a priority and should definately be included.
Nuclear Power Station and Chemical Plant - Such things would make good assets but would also make for some good explosions.
More Interactive Dating - There should be more choices which dictate how successful the date goes. You could choose more than just the location of the date. You could ask her to dance or go for a walk along the beach.
Submarines - This should be one of the new additions, and there should be different sizes, varying from small one man subs to large nuclear submarines.
Revamped Workout - There should be more machines and you should be able to decide what muscles to develop, rather than just developing "muscle". You could have strong arms or shoulders, and this is achieved by using specific machines.
Tribes - There should be tribes which live in the jungle, and in the desert. They have traditions and rituals. Nomads also roam the desert.
Car Weapons - As in GTA1/2. Oil Slicks, Fitted Machine Guns, Spikestrips, Armor, Bombs.
Video Camera - Ability to record video as well as take photos. This would take up more space on a memory card, but they will have a larger capacity. A hard drive might also be included.
More Easter Eggs - There should be real world mysteries included, such as Bigfoot, Aliens, Ghosts and the Loch Ness Monster. Although, as in real life, you cannot get proof.
Revamped Player Customisation - There should be more brands and varieties of clothing and definately a quicker changing system. There should also be more tatoo/hair options, and hair should grow. This would mean after a while you would look scruffy and you Sex Appeal would decrease.
There sould be a way to roll cars back over by recruiting gang members, rather than them just lighting on fire.
More Stealth - More ways of killing and keeping undetected. I also hope that when you kill people in the middle of nowhere you should not get a wanted level, as no-one witnessed it.
Return of Vehicles - From GTA 3 the Stinger, Blista, Kuruma should make a return.
There should be oil pipelines running from Alaska to the cities, and in a mission you have to blow a rival oil tycoons pipeline up.
The jungle can have clearing in which drugs are grown
Thats about all my ideas for the moment. What do you guys think about my ideas, especially about the whole America/Canada parody???
And be nice,it took me 2 hours to think it up!
LONG READ WARNING. VERY LONG READ.
--Preface--
I am assuming that it will be on the PS3, and also assuming some of the hardware on the PS3. Nothing too technical, but I'm sure it will have much better graphics, more RAM, and that it will use Blu-Ray Discs. These discs hold about 25GB on single layer and 50GB on dual layer. This is more than 10 times that of respective DVD's, so much more space is available.
--Name--
First of all I think it should be called GTA 6, rather than GTA -Insert Place Name-. I feel this is a tradition for new consoles, despite it only happening once. I also think that the size of map in a PS3 GTA would be so big that it could not be covered by a single state or name, so GTA 6 works quite well.
--Location--
There has been much discussion on the location of the next GTA, and most people are suggesting 3 cities for one game. With a disc which can hold 10 times as much as a DVD I would say the map should maybe be 5 times as big, as to allow for anything else which is necessary. My opinion is that the whole map should be an anachronism of America (North and South), and Canada. There are so many aspects which people have been hoping for and this could contain them all: Snow, Jungle, Desert, Countryside, Forests, Mountain Ranges, City, Slums, Ghettos, etc. I must stress that I do not want a map shaped like the real world America/Canada, just the general layout and location of cities, mountains, jungle, etc. In what would be South America I would have a Rio de Janeiro copy, which would contain huge slums, terrible famine and a large tourist city, a parody of Columbia, which would be drug dealers central, a jungle equivelant of the Amazon Rainforest, and a mountain range stretching the West coast. Moving upwards, between the South and the North, there would be a Mexico type city, and also a small republican island to be like Cuba. In what would be the US there would be a multitude of cities such as Chicago, New York, Texas, California, Florida, Washington, Mexico, Detroit and Boston. The dilemma is what to do about California, New York and Florida, as these have already been used. They could be redone to be different cities, but as most of their identifiable features have been used along with them they probably wouldnt be very interesting. However I would include San Andreas as is to represent the West, but redo New York and Florida into completely new cities. My reasons for this are as follows: San Andreas is such a complete place. It has everything which represents its respective cities. Liberty City was not based upon New York as much as San Andreas, so I think it could be redone into a bigger, fuller replica. Although many aspects of Miami were included in Vice City, its downfall is it is only Miami, as opposed to all of Florida. Also it is set in the 80's. As I believe GTA 6 should be set in the late 90's/early 00's, it would have changed dramatically, so it could be redone tactfully. Moving upwards again, where Canada would be, I would have deep forests and a Toronto like city. In the top left I see an Alaska type place with snow and oil fields. Also I want an Alcatraz type prison, valleys, swamps and a volcano. Thats about it. I know it sounds a lot, but remember how much space is available on these new discs.
--Graphics--
My only hope for the graphics is for them to improve, but not too dramatically. I believe that truly realistic graphics would ruin the GTA feel. I would like to see more objects modelled in 3D, rather than textures being used. Im not sure if this comes under graphics but i would like to see more free moving objects, such as jackets blowing in the wind or flags. Also more realistic and detailed damage models, i.e. Cars crumpling. The landscape should also be more destructable, with damagable buildings, trees which can be chopped down and movable earth.
--Character--
I think the main character should be a young man in his late teens. He lives in the slums with his large family, and is the youngest of his many brothers, and all are into petty crime. He is put down by them and disrespected by them, but he gradually gains their respect as he moves up the criminal ladder.
--Storyline--
I have not really thought about this aspect in detail, despite it being a big one. My only thought is someone starting out in the slums in Rio de Janiero, and making it big. I really like the ideas of starting out in the slums and I think it would be quite easy to get attatched to a character from them.
--Missions--
Heres where I'll put down my thoughts for certain fun missions.
-A chase through the slums, hopping fences and jumping over houses.
-A mission where you jump off the dam (a la "The Fugitive")
-For part of the game you are imprisoned in Alcatraz, and there are a series of missions leading up to your escape. Each one would be a part of organising your escape, like attaining a key or some plans of the ventilation ducts. This could be a use for the screwdriver.
--R3 Missions--
First of all I know there are people who wish these to be excluded from upcoming GTA's. I personally believe they are one of the most important parts of GTA's as there give so much more freedom to do other things. They can get repetetive or tedious, but all the same i would not contemplate getting rid of these for a second. Now onto the list. The usuals should be included: Taxi, Vigilante, Paramedia, Firefighter, Pimping, Robbing Houses, Freight Train, Valet Parking, Trucker, Courier. Here are my new ideas:
Bus Driver - Be a bus driver
Breakdown Service - Go in a pickup truck and take wrecked cars to the scrapyard.
Emergency Rescue - Go and save stranded people from far reach places (mountains, countryside, desert).
Gunrunner - Take stolen guns to people.
Firefighter - New fire helicopters which drop water on forest fires.
Delivery Service - Take trucks of goods or vehicle delivery rigs to destinations.
Hunter - Hunt certain animals (for zoos possibly)
Logger - Cut down trees using machine
Ice Cream - Just like in Vice City
Freight Plane - Deliver goods by air.
Hitman - Be a cleaner.
Chauffeur - As with taxis, but with famous people.
--Miscellaneous Features--
More Weapons - Smoke Bomb Grenade, Axe, Flare Gun, Cane Gun, Plastic Explosives, Rope, Spear Gun, Tranquiliser Gun, Bow and Arrow, Crossbow, Chinese Throwing Stars, Net Gun, Nunchucks, Mace, Pickaxe, Sledge Hammer, Snow Axe, Tommy Gun, Saw, Spears
More Vehicles - Usable Diggers, Snowmobiles, Go-karts, Various Construction Vehicles, Formula 1 Cars, Hot Rods, Tricycles, Maibatsu, Original Dodo, Classic Vehicles from older games, Wood Chipper, Wood Saw, Wrecking Ball
More Asset Missions - Banks, Casinos, Bookies, Car Dealerships, Newspapers, Taxi, Chauffeur, Film Studio, Bar, Hotel, Logger, Hunter, Ice Cream, Quarry, Clothes Shop, Jewellers, Oil Tycoon, Manager/Agent, Nuclear Power Plant
Revamped Drive-By's - Be able to shoot in other directions, by pressing L3 once to hang out the window, and move the right analog stick to move about. As usual L1 to fire. This is in addition to the classic drive-by method.
Revamped Wanted System - This definately need to be redone, the police in San Andreas were so easy to evade it made chases no fun. There should definately be more levels of being wanted, and it should be much harder to get away with crime in the city. There has been talk about a bar to replace the stars and I think this is the way it should be simply for the fast that there are more than the 6 discreet values in previous GTA's. I also had the idea about Private Investigators who will snoop around at certain times in the game looking for evidence for a crime. A message will pop up saying "The police are looking around the warehouse. Go and move the plans for the heist." You will then have a certain time to get it out.
Emergency Vehicle Crane - As in GTA 3, you take Emergency Service Vehicles to a crane a the docks, and you need to get them all to complete it.
More Military Vehicles - Have a full range of military vehicles including a Gyrocopter, Stealth Plane, Stealth Boat, B52 Bomber, Hovercraft, Boats, More planes.
More Mini Games - Be able to play more games, like Basketball and Pool in San Andreas. Theses could be Baseball, Pinball, More Arcade Games, Golf, Surfing, Bowling, Fishing.
More Methods of Transport - Skateboard, More Bikes, Scooters, Skates, Segway, Jet Skis, Pedal Boats, Microlites, Skis, Snowboards, Sledges, Submarines
Paintball Gun Fights - Have an arena where you go into competition.
Larger Boats - Ability to buy Private Yachts and save your games on them. Also allow piloting of cruise ships and tankers.
Flowing Water - This should definately be included as it would make for some really interesting missions. There should be rivers and waterfalls that actually have a moving current and undertow, aswell as water soming out dams. I also think there should be a sewer system.
Robbing Museums - I'd have various Museums in the game and ability to steal valuble works or art as part of a robbery mission. There could also be news alerts about the thefts on the radio, which would be cool.
Better Safe Houses - The safehouses in San Andreas were a let down at best. They were mostly the same as each other and there wasnt much to do. There should be plenty to do in your house, and you should be able to eat. They should all be different aswell.
Underwater Exploration - The seascape should be interesting with underwater canyons and a coral reef and there should be the ability to use oxygen tanks and flippers to scubadive.
More Usable Objects - Have useful objects which serve a purpose, like the fire extinguisher in San Andreas. These could be Binauculars to spy on someone, a Screwdriver to unscrew a vent cover or undo bolts in a car, a Crowbar to open a door or a box
Edge of Space - As you get higher it will seem darker and you will be able to see the curvature of the earth. To link in with this I think there should be a copy of the NASA space centre, but going into space is not an option. There could be antigravity chambers in NASA which could be cool.
Animals - I dont see why these cannot be included. They are used in other games and can be killed in games like Resident Evil (even though they are zombies). If killing them is out of the question then I think hunting should be included. Weapons like the tranquiliser gun and net gun could be used and it would be a matter of sneaking up and staying quiet.
Private Island - As you progress and get bigger I think you should capture the Cuba style island and take it as your own. It would be the centre of your operations.
Ragdoll Physics - These are a priority and should definately be included.
Nuclear Power Station and Chemical Plant - Such things would make good assets but would also make for some good explosions.
More Interactive Dating - There should be more choices which dictate how successful the date goes. You could choose more than just the location of the date. You could ask her to dance or go for a walk along the beach.
Submarines - This should be one of the new additions, and there should be different sizes, varying from small one man subs to large nuclear submarines.
Revamped Workout - There should be more machines and you should be able to decide what muscles to develop, rather than just developing "muscle". You could have strong arms or shoulders, and this is achieved by using specific machines.
Tribes - There should be tribes which live in the jungle, and in the desert. They have traditions and rituals. Nomads also roam the desert.
Car Weapons - As in GTA1/2. Oil Slicks, Fitted Machine Guns, Spikestrips, Armor, Bombs.
Video Camera - Ability to record video as well as take photos. This would take up more space on a memory card, but they will have a larger capacity. A hard drive might also be included.
More Easter Eggs - There should be real world mysteries included, such as Bigfoot, Aliens, Ghosts and the Loch Ness Monster. Although, as in real life, you cannot get proof.
Revamped Player Customisation - There should be more brands and varieties of clothing and definately a quicker changing system. There should also be more tatoo/hair options, and hair should grow. This would mean after a while you would look scruffy and you Sex Appeal would decrease.
There sould be a way to roll cars back over by recruiting gang members, rather than them just lighting on fire.
More Stealth - More ways of killing and keeping undetected. I also hope that when you kill people in the middle of nowhere you should not get a wanted level, as no-one witnessed it.
Return of Vehicles - From GTA 3 the Stinger, Blista, Kuruma should make a return.
There should be oil pipelines running from Alaska to the cities, and in a mission you have to blow a rival oil tycoons pipeline up.
The jungle can have clearing in which drugs are grown
Thats about all my ideas for the moment. What do you guys think about my ideas, especially about the whole America/Canada parody???
And be nice,it took me 2 hours to think it up!