Faint Image Stuck on Screen!?

[Hanzo]

Do not leave still images displayed on the screen for an extended period of time. This may cause a faint image to be left permanently on the screen.

This quote is from the manual (troubleshooting). I was wondering If I left my psp on with a picture viewing would it acutally be stuck!? If it does acutally do this... OMG it would suck more then dead pixels!!

Can someone explain this to me because it seems weird...

[kapur]

thats common to LCD's!

try switching off ur PSP, taking out the battery, and leave it for 24 hours in normal room temp. conditions.

Then try turning it on and playing!

Let us know if it works.

Good luck.

[JUSTAPSPFAN]

Do not leave still images displayed on the screen for an extended period of time. This may cause a faint image to be left permanently on the screen.

This quote is from the manual (troubleshooting). I was wondering If I left my psp on with a picture viewing would it acutally be stuck!? If it does acutally do this... OMG it would suck more then dead pixels!!

Can someone explain this to me because it seems weird...

I think the condition youre talking about may be called burn-in. When you leave your computer monitor on for hours and hours without a screen saver you get "burn-in". If Im not mistaken the PSP has a sleep mode, if that covers JPEG viewing or not Im not sure. So if you disable sleep mode you may get "burn-in" if you leave your system on for a long period of time.

[ColombianCartel]

ya i noticed that 2 when i read it. What i hope is the hud of a game doesnt get burned it then when playin another game u have to deal with it.

[kapur]

It depends how long the same image is displayed on the screen!
So if you play a few hours of a game, it shouldn't affect it much. Cuz the screens change between menus and the game itself. :)

[ColombianCartel]

It depends how long the same image is displayed on the screen!
So if you play a few hours of a game, it shouldn't affect it much. Cuz the screens change between menus and the game itself. :)

But im reminded of the race in RRV it took me 1hr 37mins to complete the 99 lap race unless ridge racers doesnt have that kind of races. And for GTA PSP it has a constint hud up

[Coded-Dude]

I have had a 17 inch LCD for over 3 years now and have never had any image burnt into it.
There were times when my screensaver wouldn't start and the desktop would be displayed for 8 to 12 hours.

Although it does have a few stuck pixels :?

But other than that I have never had any problems with it.

[Gegenki]

u wont get burn in while your playing! that would be mad - if you pause it and leave it dere it will get burn in
but how long is an average time for burn in to occure???

[Jannis]

Thats also why most dvd players have a screensaver function when the film have been paused for like 10 minutes or so. It´s not good for the tv to show a still picture for too long and I guess it´s the same with the PSP

[Nit3m4re]

when u have paused the game, but know your not coming back to play it for sometime, push the on slide up for a split second and let go and it puts it to sleep then and there, push it back up and it resumes in the excact same place.

[Skidz]

I'm not sure, but I was told that LCDs are not susceptible to "burn-in". The PSP does have an LCD, does it not? I doubt we'll have to worry about burn in... especially since the battery will only last 4-6 hours :lol: :lol:

[Wobbleshot]

This is just an example of Sony trying to cover their asses in case somethingn happens. I have never seen a LCD with burn in, and if you think about if LCDs burned in we would know bunches of people with the start bar burned in to thier laptop screens or in to their home LCD monitors.

I like Skidz comment about the battery, it is right on point. LCD burnin may occur but how long do you have to leave the same image on screen? I've had the HUD from Ridge Racers on the screen for over 4 hours straight and guess what no burn in.

Again comments like this leave me wondering if some people here aren't just looking for something to get worried about. :roll:

[Coded-Dude]

the REAL problem with LCD is:
Dead and/or Stuck Pixels
Refresh Rate is not as good as CRT
This causes "ghosting" when gaming, etc.

Ghosting is kind of like burn-in, but more temporary.
(you might briefly see an image a second or two after you just saw it, but it fades away.)

[soulreaper]

"burn in" is something that can happen to old tube monitors. back in the 80s or so. that is why the screen saver was invented. modern tube moitors don't burn in anymore. obviously. as can be seen from the taskbar sample. i don't use a screensaver.

[NineOfSwords]

i used to work as a service technican for computers and its peripherals and as fas as i am informed there is no burn-in issue with LCD displays.

have a look at your cellphone for example. there are in most cases some infos displyed all the time like the name of the service provider or the lowest bit of the battery charge. they doesn't get a burn-in.

also our EDP software has its mask on our LCD screens the whole time and there's no burn in.

i have seen burn-ins only on those old greenscreen CRT monitors. so don't worry.

[Stelio]

LOL...Somehow I have trouble believing that anyone who says, and I quote, "service proficer", "CRT monitos", or better yet, "they doesn't get burned in" was infact a service technician of any kind.

I'm terribly sorry...LOL...I understand that english may not be your first language since you have started a German forum, I pissed my pants laughing and had to poke some fun :lol:

Anyway, I have had an LCD for about 4 years now, no image burn (y)

[Coded-Dude]

the REAL problem with LCD is:
Dead and/or Stuck Pixels
Refresh Rate is not as good as CRT
This causes "ghosting" when gaming, etc.

Ghosting is kind of like burn-in, but more temporary.
(you might briefly see an image a second or two after you just saw it, but it fades away.)

yes....as I stated before these are the REAL problems with LCD.
Anything else is just "dust in the wind"

[NineOfSwords]

LOL...Somehow I have trouble believing that anyone who says, and I quote, "service proficer", "CRT monitos", or better yet, "they doesn't get burned in" was infact a service technician of any kind.

I'm terribly sorry...LOL...I understand that english may not be your first language since you have started a German forum, I pissed my pants laughing and had to poke some fun :lol:

Anyway, I have had an LCD for about 4 years now, no image burn (y)

;) as i wrote in another thread i (WE germans) don't speak english... and the really fun thing is i have at least as much typos in german too. ;)

[Soir]

Psst *whispers to NineOfSwords*; change the link in your quote ...

"Just started a German PSP Baord. Feel free to visit and help to fill it with some content."

I guess that should be "German PSP Board"

// Soir :)

On-Topic; burn-in's can be quite annoying, but as you can see it's not something that happends to everybody with an LCD. Well ghosting on LCDs (newer ones) is getting pretty rare because there are LCDs with "ms" as low as 6ms (I belive the PSPs LCD has about 16ms).

[NineOfSwords]

Psst *whispers to NineOfSwords*; change the link in your quote ...

it's starting to get embarrassing..... ;)

[Soir]

Psst *whispers to NineOfSwords*; change the link in your quote ...

it's starting to get embarrassing..... ;)

Nothing to be embarrassed about, everyone mistypes sometimes :?

[Nit3m4re]

The manual wouldn't say that unless it was a possibility though would they?

[Soir]

The manual wouldn't say that unless it was a possibility though would they?

It's not impossible, I would bet the money in my pocket that for every LCD there is a warning about this in the manual for the product.

[NineOfSwords]

maybe it's something like "don't dry your pets in a microwave" ;)

[Nit3m4re]

The manual wouldn't say that unless it was a possibility though would they?

It's not impossible, I would bet the money in my pocket that for every LCD there is a warning about this in the manual for the product.

agreed, it seems logical. Even though it hasnt happened yet, there could always be a 1st and then a 2nd. People will do it just to prove a point and then if it does they are screwed. I bet alot of people after reading this wont leave a picture on their PSP from full charge to end???

[Gegenki]

how much money is in your pocket?!

Well - soz but i dont remember who it was - someone said that they left ridge racer on for 4 hours. When playing music - no doubt some things aren't going to change in a 10hour playlist - burn in would become a problem - does the screen turn off then?
If you can leave it on for 4 hours and not get burn in - its not really a problem.
Just use sleep!

[NineOfSwords]

even when listening to a gamesoundtrack (where the auto off function of the PSP does not turn off your display) you can ever just hold the display button down for a few seconds and it turns your display of just like you would mute your audio with the audio button...

so when like you said someone wants to listen the ridge racer soundtrack he can just turn his display off. or use the "DJ-Option" (i don't know how its called but the icon has some DJ on it) where you see a replay while listening to the soundtrack.

[AngelCry]

No need to worry unless you leave the psp on a still image and go on vacation. LCD moniters, can get burn in. Now not as much as TFT. With TFT this happened after just a week of one still image. But with LCD's this takes a longer time. About three to four weeks. Sometimes longer. And then again you cant really tell what the image is because it is faint. Or only part of the image has had time to burn. So dont worry about it. Oh' one more thing. As far as I know you cant get rid of the burn.(withour replacing parts) God knows I tried. I have only seen two LCD's with a partial burn. But dont worry it will take to long, unless you actually left your psp on a still image while plugged into a wall and went of vaction. And then I would have to laugh at you:-) Just kidding.

[Coded-Dude]

The PSP has a TFT LCD display.....

[Soir]

http://computer.howstuffworks.com/lcd7.htm <-- Passive Matrix

http://computer.howstuffworks.com/lcd8.htm <-- Active Matrix (TFT LCD)


Hmm, I can see no reason why burn-in's should be more frequent on TFT-LCDs than on "normal" LCDs (passive).

[vulcan4d]

I know it's common among LCD projection TV's. The lcd pannels inside generate a kinda memory effect and sometimes you need do a so called whipe to reset the lcd's. Some of these tv's you have to do it through the menu, others do it automaticly. The truth is I did a whipe a few times on a Hitachi and man does it ever make a difference in image quality.

[Avangel]

my tv for a while hat the scifi and techtv logo burned to the bottom of the screen but its not there ne more so if it happened it probley will go away