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axia777
03-17-2005, 07:34 PM
http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/03/16/news_6120586.html

This is crazy to me. PAY for new content in a game? Would anyone here PAY $$$$MONEY$$$$ for say a new sword or magical item in WoW or EQ2? Pay for new maps in a FPS? Pay for new cars/parts in a racing games? This is REAL money they are talking about. After you pay $50 dollars for the game in the first place. Pay for what? I don't care if the cost is $.10 or $.25. Screw that crap. Let X-Box 2 owners screw themselves as they pay for new content in a game after they pay for the game and the console. :lol: What the hell ever man!!! :lol: Sony had better not pull this lame assed crap.... :evil:

bRoNx
03-17-2005, 09:08 PM
I agree. But I would gladly pay (not too much though) for mod's from other people, or buy a customized GT5 car from someone else's garage (to save me the hassle!), but not from the developers. Makes me wonder if they left that stuff out intentionally to make extra $$ later on...

Scheming buggers!!! :evil:

Coded-Dude
03-17-2005, 09:24 PM
Yeah, but that money should go to the creator of the "custom add-on", not fucking Microsoft!
Its just a way for a greedy software company to milk more money out of its slowly depleting cutomer base.

Whats next, paying royalties just for turning on the damn XBOX! Give me break! :?

Junox50
03-23-2005, 09:00 PM
I hope Sony doesent end up going the Microsoft route with their online service. Fifty bucks is enough for just the game alone.

axia777
03-23-2005, 10:23 PM
Yah, pay after you pay for the game, pay for X-Box:Live service and pay the price of your high speed broad band connection. No, not really Microsoft. Your a bunch of dumb asses as far as I am concerened. Not even a damn dime..... :lol: And like the developers who really deserve the cash and gonna get a penny after Bill and CO. eat up the loot. :lol:

Charlie
03-23-2005, 11:58 PM
I'm mainly a PC gamer and prices are now climbing just a bit for us with an extra $5 on certain games (Doom 3, Half-Life 2, ect.). I'll gladly pay up to $59 for a good game (keyword good, not average), anymore and I expect a free T-shirt, artbook, and other crap to come with it and the package to have big golden letters with "Special Edition" written on it.

axia777
03-24-2005, 01:29 AM
Yah, but this crap Microsoft is talking about is charging cash for what is normally free. Like maps for a FPS or tracks for racing games. Updates and other things like that. A new sword in an RPG? $.25. Cheap, but after paying for all the afore mentioned stuff I am just not kool with even a $.25 charge. Then what next? $.50, then a whole $1.00? Screw that crap. :evil: They can shove it where the sun don't shine..... :lol: It sets a BAD precedent to charge cash for stuff like that. At least for X-box 2 owners tha is.... :lol:

Rallyracr420
03-26-2005, 03:15 AM
Kutagari mentioned 'minitransactions' as something Sony was looking to include with the PS3 long before the GDC XBox presentation. Sony was more subtle about talking about it because they officially haven't said jack about the PS3 other than a few minor details.

I incredibly stoked about all this! A new pricing model for games will appear in this generation that allows you to get way more for your buck. Games that offer very little out of the box and expect you to buy all the missions will be initially very cheap or may even be free. And if you don't like the game, you might have only bought the first few missions so you can save your money instead of having had to pay for the whole game up front.

Its a 'you get what you pay for model'. Supply and demand for the different missions will sort out the price of whatever you buy. Prices will flex so much that game prices will soon start to reflect what you see in the Gamestops and other used games stores. Minitransactions will eventually mean cheaper games for all of us.

Also, I like to note that the way MS is implementing this XBox Marketplace is to have you buy credits initially and then you spend the credits however you want on any number of games. This is a much cooler system than having your CC get charged each time. This also allows for giftcertificates for the XBox Marketplace to start appearing in line at your local Blockbuster of grocerie store.

Tenchi
03-26-2005, 03:42 AM
I really don't belive Microsoft would stoop as low as charging for game content... it is not only extortion, but a form of threat. "Don't pay, don't play" And that my friends is not right. Any person that would pay for content is used to getting ripped-off. With that being said, Xbox fans wont really mind, because they've been okay with throwing away money on useless Xbox peripherals, such as the DVD play-back kit. €30 for the DVD logo on the adapter, which, according to Microsoft, was left out 'accidentally.'

GTShotoKen
03-26-2005, 04:00 AM
I thought that micro-transaction envolved developers and mod creators having the decision to charge small fees for content that they release for others to download?

The entire idea revolves around people being able to make money from the content they produce. Allard stressed that the idea of micro-transactions was entirely up to the content creators.


I may be wrong, but the way that things seem to be explained just seems alittle off.

nemesis121
03-27-2005, 10:28 AM
You guys say you will never pay for a map, track, sword, or any extra content for a game even if it's $.25, well let me tell u guys one thing M$, Sony, and, Nintendo isn't in this to be your buddies or friends they are in this market to make money and if sony see's ms making money off extra content they will do the same thing, ms is copying the online RPG structure there's millions of gamers each month paying to get extra content in everquest, FFXI, and so on the online RPG is a booming business.

Eventually sony will follow MS and charge for online play and you guys will pay for it, the same way I pay for xbox live, there's alot of money to be made in the online console gaming and right now MS is eating up most of it, sony knows this so look for them to annouce there online plans soon.

Tenchi
03-27-2005, 08:55 PM
You guys say you will never pay for a map, track, sword, or any extra content for a game even if it's $.25, well let me tell u guys one thing M$, Sony, and, Nintendo isn't in this to be your buddies or friends they are in this market to make money and if sony see's ms making money off extra content they will do the same thing, ms is copying the online RPG structure there's millions of gamers each month paying to get extra content in everquest, FFXI, and so on the online RPG is a booming business.

Eventually sony will follow MS and charge for online play and you guys will pay for it, the same way I pay for xbox live, there's alot of money to be made in the online console gaming and right now MS is eating up most of it, sony knows this so look for them to annouce there online plans soon.
Nobody said they would never pay for content, they just wouldn't pay for an unfinished product that would then be patched by the developer at a small fee. And yes, Sony already confirmed a pay-for-play thing for their next console[the PS3].

I also pay for Xbox Live, but see, Xbox Live isn't a game per sé, it is a service that enables you to play said games. It is drastically different. No one ever said that they wouldn't pay for services, that is also why I didn't mention Xbox Live as extortion[in my last post].

Now, FFXI was no Xbox Live, that was actually a game -- one that didn't score so well with past fans. If you were to look at any sales chart, you would see a severe decline in units sold [World-wide] between FFX-2 and FFXI. This is due to the online fees players were made to pay. If you were to ask any FFXI naysayer, you would get a similar, if not exactly the same, response.

Junox50
03-28-2005, 03:26 AM
I believe Sony is going to stick with their free online service but also have people pay for certain content as well. I mean, the PS2 had more online users than Xbox live. That right there is a good enough reason for them to stick to their free online plan. It'll probably be a mixture of both Xbox live and PS2 online at the time. Thats just my 2 cents. 8)