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The_One
05-13-2005, 03:45 AM
http://msxb.wmod.llnwd.net/a274/o2/ourcolony/TheColony_v1_750k.wmv
There a go, that's what you get for solving everything.
Main points:
-512MB of RAM
-3 symetric cores [on 1 chip]
-6 threads [being processed simultaneously]
-1 trillion float point operations (Probably marketing BS).
-Water cooled CPU (CRAZY!! :shock:!)
-It can be connected with your PC, digital cameras, MP3 players, etc...
-Every game is LIVE aware
-You can see your opponents while playing (Probably using that "eye toy" like device)
Viper
05-13-2005, 03:47 AM
I'll post it again...1 teraflop? How with the specs given?
xbdestroya
05-13-2005, 03:51 AM
It's just the GPU that's bringing it to that flop-rating. NVidia even with it's current gen claims over a terraflop of performance on their GPU's, so in the world of Xbox, this is just par for the course. Remember the crazy flops number sthey were claiming with XBox 1? This is no different - just brought up to speed for the year 2005.
The_One
05-13-2005, 03:53 AM
It's just the GPU that's bringing it to that flop-rating. NVidia even with it's current gen claims over a terraflop of performance on their GPU's, so in the world of Xbox, this is just par for the course. Remember the crazy flops number sthey were claiming with XBox 1? This is no different - just brought up to speed for the year 2005. Yeah... nVidia was boasting over 75GFLOp/s with their GeForce 3 :roll:.
gnznroses
05-13-2005, 04:21 AM
i think it's retarded to mandate that every game work with Live....
Avatar of SpaceTime
05-13-2005, 04:46 AM
"Overall" system performance of 1 Teraflop
Xbox 360 actual CPU Floating Point Performance is 115.2 GFLOPS
Am sure Sony will put a similar spin on it's PS3 to make it seem like 1 Teraflop
Tenchi
05-13-2005, 04:50 AM
i think it's retarded to mandate that every game work with Live....
I am actually not disappointed at that precisely, but the form in which Microsoft has chosen to flaunt their machine instead. MTV of all places, and this after I thought they wanted gamers, I mean real gamers, not teh kind that tak ike tis, but teh kine tat don nid to ass o ciate weith m tb to recive newz.
Mordecaii
05-13-2005, 05:11 AM
Hey, when I click on the link at the top it says "File Not Found"... Can we get this fixed?
Edit: Also, I just watched the Gamespot XBOX 360 video and the guy on there claimed that the XBOX 360 was 5 times more powerful than the Xbox... so that means that the Xbox could process 200 GFLOPs???!!! LOL!
mckmas8808
05-13-2005, 09:33 AM
Does 5 times faster than the Xbox really sound like alot? NO. Smart guys like us that post on psinext know that this is weak. I think Sony claimed 1000 times faster even though that was a long time ago. I going to assume that the PS3 will be 50 times faster than the PS2.
The_One
05-13-2005, 10:31 AM
Hey, when I click on the link at the top it says "File Not Found"... Can we get this fixed? I'm sorry, there's nothing I can do about it. It works for me (I just tried), and the link is for a stream and you can't actually download it. Otherwise I would have hosted it elsewhere.
sub1zero
05-13-2005, 06:39 PM
One ting that worries me is that that 1 Teraflop statement was also posted by Gamespot. Is X360 capable of doing it ?? Cuz the PS3 will be doing only 256GFlops. How does the X360 specs compare with the PS3 (Whatever u guess abt its specs) ??
LINKY :: http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/05/12/news_6124231.html
Today also marked the release of the Xbox 360's technical specifications. As had been long-rumored, it has a custom IBM PowerPC-based CPU with three symmetrical 3.2GHz cores capable of 9 billion dot product operations per second. It sports a 500MHz custom ATI Graphics Processor with 10MB of embedded DRAM, 48-way parallel floating-point dynamically scheduled shader pipelines, and a unified shader architecture capable of 48 billion shader operations per second. Its polygon performance is 500 million triangles per second, with a pixel fill rate of 16 gigasamples per second. The 360's unified memory architecture will rival that of a high-end PC, with 512MB GDDR3 RAM and 700MHz DDR. Overall, the console will be capable of a whopping teraflop of overall system floating-point performance.
“goosed it”? what the hell is “goosed it” supposed to mean?
I realized he wants to use ‘different’ phrases to sound ‘hip’ and all, but come on! Goosed it?!
Mordecaii
05-13-2005, 11:21 PM
This is why I hate marketing BS... you ALWAYS hear what a company wants you to hear and it's RARELY the truth. Microsoft's 1 teraflop is completely misleading... their CPU which is what we can directly compare to the CELL is only going to be around 100 GFLOP/s. The PS3 Cell will be close to 300 GFLOP/s since the 256 GFLOP/s number was not including the CELL's PPE. The numbers Microsoft is quoting are most likely all their system components added up and even that probably wouldn't actually get you to 1 teraflop, so they most likely had to do some other "calculations" to reach 1 teraflop. Take my word for it, Sony's PS3 with the CELL inside will have a stronger CPU. Period. As for the graphics processor... we'll have to wait until E3.
Danji
05-13-2005, 11:38 PM
There was so much marketing in that I threw up.
The_One
05-13-2005, 11:44 PM
The only thing I found interesting was the water cooled CPU.
Rallyracr420
05-14-2005, 01:01 AM
i think it's retarded to mandate that every game work with Live....
Its very different from the current status quo, but MS is has a goal in mind make video games a 'get connected' experience. MS wants to make the XBox360 a gateway into a connected world where everyone can play online with one another. They're making video games a community experience instead of a solitary experience. I think this is a good thing, because I don't think Sony has the same vision in mind.
I think Sony is going to go the classical route of focusing on the games instead of focusing on who you'll be able to play the games with like MS is doing. Both are good strategies depending on what you are looking for, and this is why I'll probably buy both consoles in the next gen instead of choosing one over the other like I usually did in the past. (Actually I'm hoping to buy all 3 because the Revolution looks like its going to be completely different than Sony's or MS's solution as well).
Here's to hoping we all win the lottery :)
Domination
05-14-2005, 01:48 AM
The only thing I found interesting was the water cooled CPU.
As was as I, too. I honestly didn't know they would go that far since that's an expensive direction to take. Those processors had to have ran pretty damn hot for this procedure to have taken place. It's cool, though. Wait, did I just make a funny? :lol:
The_One
05-14-2005, 06:29 PM
The only thing I found interesting was the water cooled CPU.
As was as I, too. I honestly didn't know they would go that far since that's an expensive direction to take. Those processors had to have ran pretty damn hot for this procedure to have taken place. It's cool, though. Wait, did I just make a funny? :lol: Well, when you have 3 cores running at 3.2Ghz, it can get pretty darn hot in there :D.
the legendary ice man
05-14-2005, 06:55 PM
I always thought that CPU Water Cooling would take up quite a lot of space.
Additionally, I'm sure I heard within that video something about it having a 4 level main board?
WTF is on the lower 3 boards then?
Surely memory has to be close to the CPU since that's where the performance increase comes from - well...a few nanoseconds, but still.
So water-cooling may be a possibility for PS3.
Here's another vid u can download, thats similiar to the 1st one, but with more stuff bout the controller and the console
http://games.kikizo.com/news/200505/101.asp
Scrool down, click on the upper vid.
The_One
05-15-2005, 02:14 AM
So water-cooling may be a possibility for PS3. Well, if there's only going to be 1 CELL (which is highly probable), then the PS3 won't need it (unless the nVidia GPU is hot like heck). Besides, Water-cooling is supposedly noisy, which doesn't bode well with the Japanese market.
Red_Eyes
05-15-2005, 01:45 PM
"Overall" system performance of 1 Teraflop
Xbox 360 actual CPU Floating Point Performance is 115.2 GFLOPS
Am sure Sony will put a similar spin on it's PS3 to make it seem like 1 Teraflop
I am sure Sony will too, but in a different way.
PS3 overall performance will be 2 TFlops
1 TFlops from Cell
1 TFlops from Nvidia's GPU
Red_Eyes
05-15-2005, 01:47 PM
One ting that worries me is that that 1 Teraflop statement was also posted by Gamespot. Is X360 capable of doing it ?? Cuz the PS3 will be doing only 256GFlops. How does the X360 specs compare with the PS3 (Whatever u guess abt its specs) ??
LINKY :: http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/05/12/news_6124231.html
Today also marked the release of the Xbox 360's technical specifications. As had been long-rumored, it has a custom IBM PowerPC-based CPU with three symmetrical 3.2GHz cores capable of 9 billion dot product operations per second. It sports a 500MHz custom ATI Graphics Processor with 10MB of embedded DRAM, 48-way parallel floating-point dynamically scheduled shader pipelines, and a unified shader architecture capable of 48 billion shader operations per second. Its polygon performance is 500 million triangles per second, with a pixel fill rate of 16 gigasamples per second. The 360's unified memory architecture will rival that of a high-end PC, with 512MB GDDR3 RAM and 700MHz DDR. Overall, the console will be capable of a whopping teraflop of overall system floating-point performance.
You are wrong. We do not know how many GFlops PS3 can do. All we know is that one Cell can do 256 GFlops. For all we know, PS3 could have 4 Cells.
sub1zero
05-15-2005, 08:00 PM
OK I got all that cleared. But isn't 512 MB Ram on X360 a big big advantage over the PS3 despite PS3 having 256 of XDR Ram ???
it is yet unknown how many and what kind of RAM will PS3 have. so you can't say one has an advantage/disatvantage over the other. even after E3, things will change from now till PS3's launch.
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