Come join "The Cell Game"

[makeitlookreal]

Boys and Girls, Guys and Gals, one and all... Come on up and take a whack at the "Cell Game"!

It's as simple as pie and just takes a moment! All of known civilization is waiting impatiently to discover just how many cell chips will be included in Sony Entertainment's Playstation 3 game console! Take a guess here and in just a couple of days at E3 see if how your guess fared!

To submit your guess and take a whack at the cell game please guess the following!

1) How many individual cell chips will be in the PS3?

2) How many SPEs will be in each cell chip inside of the PS3?

3) What will the clock frequency of each cell chip be in the PS3?

Now, everyone, take a whack at the cell game! Will the PS3 be more than a revolution and be the constant light in the world of gaming for years or shall it be one half of a 360 and take a 180 scurrying back to momma Sony? Give your guess and take a whack!

Costs nothing to play and there is nothing to lose. However, if you win gain the respect and admiration of your fellow PSINext'ers!

Let my give my guess!

1) 4 Cell Chips
2) 8 SPE's in each chip
3) 5.0ghz

I stood up and took my whack at the "cell game"... now it's YOUR turn! :!:

[The_One]

My speculations are simple and pessimistic:
1) 1 CELL
2) 8
3) 4.6Ghz (are we allowed 2 guesses? My second choice would be 4Ghz).
However, if you win gain the respect and admiration of your fellow PSINext'ers! Uh... I don't see how that works since this is purely luck-based... But if you say so :roll:.

[makeitlookreal]

No, it's not luck based. All of the universe is energy and time is only a form of that energy. We are not meat computers and there is more to being a human being than having a lump of grey matter in your head. Beyond faith in the spirit or soul we have proof in that there are individuals that are fully functional and have even obtained college educations with no brain in their head whatsoever. We have a mind, soul, spirit, or whatever you want to call it that can touch the great "flow" of the universe. By doing so it can reach out and percieve things that would not be possible with limitations of our physical senses.

A few individuals have finely tuned their ability to percieve *possible* futures, remote view to other locations, read the thoughts of others, and be generally able to "read" the code of the universal "matrix" of energy. But we all have this ability to some small degree.

Of course in this guess having done research on the topic could help your guess as well!

So this is not truly lucky but a combination of research, reading, investigation, and of course the ability to tap into the essense of the universal flow of energy or in other words.... just be able to say what your "gut" is telling you!

For those that get it right, I will sure admire them!

[Handycrap101]

1) 2 Cell Chips
2) 8 SPEs
3) 4.6GHz

[FerrianX]

Here's hoping!
1) 4 Cell's
2) 8 SPE's per chip
3) 4Ghz

If they manage to come out with 4.6Ghz or higher for the Ps3 that would be great... I'm just hoping Sony is looking at Xbox 360 specs and thinking up ways to crush it.

[Handycrap101]

Do you guys realize that if 4 cells running at 4.6 ghz are in the ps3 then it would need to have some serious cooling system (ie. alot of fans or water cooling.. which is loud) and also if they would use fans they can use a standard computer fan.. they would need to make the ps3's size pretty large. i dont see 4 cells in there.

[True Poet]

Ferrian: I think they've already done that. Judging by the curbed enthusiasm from both hardcore gamers, technical analysts and developers, the XBox 360 will have to get by with brilliantly designed online-capabilites and ease of development.


My guess:

1) 2 Cell chips

2) 8 SPUs

3) 4.2 Ghz

[The_One]

Everyone seems to like the 2 CELL figure eh? What's with people and the craving to have multiple CELLs? Personally, I think that's an impossibility, but that's just me :?.

[makeitlookreal]

My guess is based on the following factors (among others):

1) Sony must be the crud out of Microsoft. This is a must and is something they *have* to accomplish. Now, without trying to start a big debate and get too off topic, I believe the XBox 360 will have the ability to be photorealistic in the long run or at least nearly so. At first they won't be nearly photorealistic, but just very darn good. Again, there are so many engines and tricks being used that I believe this can happen. You don't have to utilize 500 teraflops of power to generate superb graphics. What you can do is take short-cuts that get you to the same place but with less horsepower. If Microsoft can be very darn good Sony has to be clearly better!

2) Since Sony knows the potential of the XBox 360 (amazing graphics) and they realize for their games to have a clearly visible ammount of graphics performance they will need to go ahead and add more cell chips to allow for such a leap. If the XBox 360 is going to have games like Gears of War (which looks pretty amazing so far from the little we have seen) then Sony knows they must make the PS3 powerful enough to have even some of the first games for their system be even better. But even better will not cut it because there in one way of thinking there is not really always a lot of difference between a real time cgi game and an even better cgi quality game. However, if Sony can have real time photorealism (I mean games that look like a TV show that utilizes human beings as actresses and actors) then they can make hordes of gamers forget the XBOX 360.

3) The cell chip is supposed to network well with other cell chips better than any other current processor design. I think Sony will want to showcase this feature (which is supposed to be one if not THE biggest feature of the cell chip) in the PS3. It is an amazing feature and not to utilize it after hyping the features of the "broadband engine" for so long would be very sad and disapointing.

4) At first the PS3 was supposed to be 6.7 Teraflops which would match their claims of 1000 times the power of the PS2. Then the "Broad-Band" engine for the PS3 was announced which reduced that figure to 1.024 teraflops. I believe Sony could get away with reducing the proposed power for the PS3 from 6.7 to 1.02. But to reduce it down anymore than what the broadband engine allows would be pathetic. It would allow Sony's critics to rightfully laugh at them for overestimating the power of the PS3, would disapoint many loyal Playstation fans/customers that believed them, and of course would give amunition to Microsoft to use agains the PS3...

I could see Microsoft's ad campaign against the PS3...

A video game shaped figure is doing the limbo while an announcer is speaking about his records in limbo'ing down lower and lower from high boastful claims....

How low can Mr. PS3 go folks! So far he has passed below the 6.7 teraflop 1000 times the PS2 pole, no he is going below the two chip level... my goodness how low can this guy go... I can't believe it... he is lower than one half a teraflop! Whoa! He has won this limbo contest! BUT HE IS CONTINUING... Down to 256 Gigaflop! How did he do it! With more poles to go...... HOW LOW CAN THIS CONSOLE GO!

Anyway...

I have other reasons for my guess and I hold to it.

Comeon everybody! What do YOU think the PS3 will utilize in CELLS!

By the way, only one guess is allowed!

[makeitlookreal]

By the way... I don't mind a big machine if the design and case is attractive looking, has many features (such as DVD burner and/or Tivo like device), and the POWER is there.

Additionally, if I had to spend an extra 100 dollars on what I knew would be *the* gaming console (without dispute) for the next five years the cost would not at all bother me. For example, I don't mind paying more for an extra cell chip. However, if there is any dispute about which console would be the most powerful (so in the longrun the potential would be there for the best looking games) I would become very frustrated and would probably put the purchase of any console on hold.

I think Sony knows this and desires to impress everyone with how much more powerful the PS3 will be than XBox 360.

Again...

4 Cells
8 SPE's each cell
5.0ghz

[FerrianX]

Everyone seems to like the 2 CELL figure eh? What's with people and the craving to have multiple CELLs? Personally, I think that's an impossibility, but that's just me :?.

Don't get me wrong... I want the Ps3 to have as much power as it possibly can (hence my 4 cell post above).

But realistically, I don't see them using more then a single one.

[jaxmkii]

1. 32 cells

2 16 peu

3. 5.7 Thz... :lol: :lol: :lol:

what it wll have im not going to pretend to know...
but I will say that Xblock 1.5 will be an easy kill.
8) yea im cocky

[O.D.S]

1) 1 CELL
2) 8
3) 4 - 4.6GHz (depends on cooling efficiency)

[Nfactor]

1 Cell
2 PPE's
32 SPE's

512Gflops or 1 TFlop total SP FLOP's

[KnightRiderX]

1) 3 Cell Chips
2) 8 SPEs
3) 3.8 - 4.2 GHz

HaHaHa. Let the accolades start coming. 8)

[makeitlookreal]

Keep'em coming!

The Cell Game is on and in just a few days praise my come your way!

Remember, the answer is just a few days away!

[Kala]

1chip
8 SPU's
4.6GHz

This dissapoints me as Xbox360 is said to have 1 Tflops and 5.2Ghz as stated in xbox.ign.com

[Danji]

it has 3.2 GHz Kala, there is a link to the site citing such ( :lol: ) in the Xbox 360 discussion thread in general gaming section.

I am going to make two guesses.

Reasonable:

2 Cells
8 SPUs each
4.6 GHz


and Unreasonable:

4 cells
8 SPUs each
4 GHz

[Handycrap101]

@ Kala.. You have to understand that the people at IGN are all recovered or recovering alcoholics or drug adicts so alot of the info there comes from pretty messed up people making half of what they say BS... 1 TFLOP and their power pc running at 5.2ghz.. HAHAHAHA!!

[Danji]

@ Kala.. You have to understand that the people at IGN are all recovered or recovering alcoholics or drug adicts so alot of the info there comes from pretty messed up people making half of what they say BS... 1 TFLOP and their power pc running at 5.2ghz.. HAHAHAHA!!
That they are! :lol:

[Red_Eyes]

1). 4 Cells
2). 8 SPEs
3). 4.6 Gigahertz

[the legendary ice man]

1 CELL
8 SPU's
576Mhz (4.6Ghz)

[diOndOrAntt]

Whats up with this 4 cells thing?. That will cost so mutch money.

Anyway my guess:

1 CELL
8 SPU's
4.0 ghz

[eggyoke]

1 CELL
8 SPUs
4.4 ghz

[.®]

2 cells ( 1 cpu, 1 gpu)
8 SPUS (CPU), 2 or 4 (GPU)
4ghz (CPU) 1ghz (GPU)

This way the CPU & GPU can dance together in harmony. And any unused SPUS from the GPU can aid the CPU and vice versa. I beleive this configuration would result in a monster being born. :shock:

[Homeru]

1) 1 1/2 CELLs
2) 8
3) 4.6Ghz
:lol:

[Fazares]

1) 1 cell
2) 8 spu
3) 4 or 4,6 ghz clock speed
i think thats the most possible configuration and i would be happy with that alone...

[Sypher]

Ideally
1) 4 cells
2) 10 SPU
3) 5.2 Ghz

realistically
1) 2-3 Cells
2) 6-8 SPU
3) 4-4.6 GHz

[Goki]

1 Cell
8 spu
4.6 Ghz

512 MB RAM (lets put ram in this aswell) everyone edit your posts include ram!!! :D

[WolfWooD]

1) 1 cell
2) 8 spu
3) 5.0 ghz

[lilkoy123]

2 cells
8 spu
4.6 ghz

[Bocuma]

cpu
8xspu
4.0Ghz

gpu
4xspu :D

512Mb ram

[foz]

2 Cells 1 PPE + 8 SPE's Each
4 Ghz (we've gotta consider heat and yeald issues)
512mb Ram (which is now accessible with 2 cells)
Custom Nvidia GPU with no Vertex engine but 24 pipes

[makeitlookreal]

It appears that many people have came to join the CELL GAME! Would anyone else reading this care to take a whack?

I just arrived home from work and have quickly logged onto PSINext. Does anyone know if the PS3 was revealed yet? If not, then when?

The winners of the Cell Game could be revealed very soon!!

This is so exciting!

Remember, it won't be long and we will forever know the specs of the PS3. This is the last time for you to officially guess the specs before the announcment!

I love these forums!

[WolfWooD]

its 21:00 +1 gmt :)

[The_One]

The Pre-E3 Sony conference is at 3PM GMT -8, so no, the PS3 haven't been shown yet.

[Theo]

Here is my guess:

1) 2 Cell chips
2) 8 SPEs
3) 4-4,6ghz

...Although I think there is a major chance that we'll see only 1 Cell chip in a ps3 :roll: ...(Man, time could not pass any slower!!!!)

[the legendary ice man]

its 21:00 +1 gmt :)

I made it out to be 11PM GMT - 3 PM PST - although I think I'm wrong :s

Where is everyone getting this PPE stuff from? :cry:

[The_One]

Ideally
1) 4 cells
2) 10 SPU
3) 5.2 Ghz

realistically
1) 2-3 Cells
2) 6-8 SPU
3) 4-4.6 GHz Realistically, it's 1 CELL. The chances of multiple CELL being in the PS3 is slim to none.

[Theo]

Ideally
1) 4 cells
2) 10 SPU
3) 5.2 Ghz

realistically
1) 2-3 Cells
2) 6-8 SPU
3) 4-4.6 GHz Realistically, it's 1 CELL. The chances of multiple CELL being in the PS3 is slim to none.

I agree....But I had to guess and hope for 2 Cells for hype's sake :lol: !

[cpiasminc]

If you want meaningless hope, here's one ...
128 CELLs
16 SPEs each
5.2 GHz
16 GB of RAM
400 GB hard drive

Now for the grown-up answer
1 CELL
8 SPEs (all the demo silicon has been 1 CELL with 8 SPEs, so that's may be their only mask for the time being)
3.6 GHz (basing off the SPE power jump on the Schmoo plot, 3.6 is just below that jump)
512 MB (to maintain a spec advantage over 360, 512 is at least equal)
Hard drive is an extra add-on to buy separately.

[Fazares]

If you want meaningless hope, here's one ...
128 CELLs
16 SPEs each
5.2 GHz
16 GB of RAM
400 GB hard drive

Now for the grown-up answer
1 CELL
8 SPEs (all the demo silicon has been 1 CELL with 8 SPEs, so that's may be their only mask for the time being)
3.6 GHz (basing off the SPE power jump on the Schmoo plot, 3.6 is just below that jump)
512 MB (to maintain a spec advantage over 360, 512 is at least equal)
Hard drive is an extra add-on to buy separately.
i agree except for the 3,6ghz clock speed...128 cells.... :shock:

[Ironlungz]

Here it goes...All my money is on...

1PPE (second generation/DD2)
Size:235mm2
CPU core can do 2 Order at the same time.
8SPU's
4-4.6Ghz

Second guess...

2PPE (second generation/DD2)
4SPU's each PPE with a total of 8SPU's
4-4.6Ghz

[xone_4]

2 CELLs
8 SPEs
4.2 Ghz
512 RAM

:roll:

[OzzysCross101]

Ok, fist of all there is alot of good things that come out of the release of Xbox 360s specs. Now, Sony can say "oh looks like MS is using 3 Custom PowerPC processors clocked at 3.2GHz (whats this? Microsoft using the same processor that all Macs use? Why, thats so unlike Microsft.....using the same things Apple uses. :roll: pssh yeah :roll: ) so now sony has a chance to step it up with Cell,Which is already better. Plus, it has its own wireless capibilities, and theres major talk about Sony and probably almost everyone putting these things in new TVs DVD players, DVRs, you name it. So it was a good idea to tell everyone about 360 MS, because you've just lost the battle.

As for my guess, i would say that the PS3 Cells will be running like this:

1) 4 Cell Chips
2) 8 SPEs
3) 4.5 GHz

With 4 Cells running simultaneously, there is definately going to be a liquid cooling system in place, because if the PowerPC's in Macs need it, and The PowerPC's in the 360 need it, then its indefinately going to be in PS3.

[the legendary ice man]

People are sort of missing out on the bigger picture.

given that IBM have their own input on the chips. They always go for lower end clock speed processors.

The Super Computer at the top of the list doesn't have 1 processor that is clocked at over 1 Ghz ;)

I'm also baffled by people wanting more than 1 CELL in PS3. It's already been established 1 alone is on par at bare minimum with the 360.

[makeitlookreal]

The reason we desire more than one cell is because we want this next generation to be truly next gen and capable of photorealistic games that will blow our minds.

If the PS3 utilizes only one cell it will be a travesty. Originally, the folks at Sony bragged that the PS3 would be 1,000 times as powerful as the PS2. Then they lowered it down to the "Broadband Egnine" that would be just over one teraflop with for cell chips. It is my guess that Sony will not go lower than the broadband engine. But if they go down to one 8 SPE cell chip then I will be very disapointed.

Everything thinks that more than one cell chip is impossible. Why? There is no reason to say it is impossible. Is it certain they will have more than one? No. But I think it is much more probable than just one chip.

If Sony *really* wants to make their product DEMOLISH the new XBox they *must* make it's specs a true order of MAGNITUDE over the new Xbox and insure 90% marketshare. A four cell PS3 would make buying the Xbox 360 look totally outdated.

Again, I believe the true specs will be...

4 Cell Chips
8 SPE's each
5.0ghz

If ANYONE hears the FINAL SPECS released by sony then PLEASE POST IT!