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ps3basefan
05-17-2005, 08:00 AM
I have got a PC monitor that supports 1900X1200 resolution connected to my dell pc. It has a VGA cable. I am going to get a notebook soon, can I connect it to a PS3 using VGA port? Is their a vga port on the ps3?

Also, which is better? 1080i/720P Resolutions on HDTV or 1600x1200@85hz on a PC monitor?

ps3basefan

Mordecaii
05-17-2005, 08:04 AM
From what I remember watching the presentation, you will be able to connect the PS3 to a HDTV and a computer monitor at the same time, and it will display different things on both. As for the resolutions, 1080p which is what the PS3 supports is greater than 1600 x 1200.

GodZeRo
05-18-2005, 09:31 AM
Unfortunatly, so far there's no VGA out, just the old composite/s-video/rgb/etc video connector we're used to, plus 2 DVI outputs (the kind used on some HDTS and some flat panel monitors).

So far you'll need an adaptor (DVI-VGA would be nice). I hope this changes.

Mordecaii
05-18-2005, 11:00 AM
They specifically stated that the PS3 would be able to connect to a monitor so I have a feeling Sony will probably offer an adapter. I doubt they'll change the output specs too much... But then again, they've changed major things before.

KKS
05-18-2005, 12:15 PM
There's this wide screen 24" DELL monitor out right now that supports 1920 x 1200 resolution for $1200. I think its a better deal then buying a 1980P HDTV considering you can use it for you PC also. It also has component input so if PS3 does not support DVI-D, you will still be able to plug it in i think.

Coded-Dude
05-18-2005, 05:49 PM
The two outputs are HDMI which is supposed to replace DVI as the standard for HIGH DEFINITION VIEWING(it is a dvi derivitive)

HDMI - HDTV connection format using a DVI interface that transfers uncompressed digital video with HDCP copy protection and multichannel audio.
definition courtesy google.com "define:HDMI"

You will be able to look at your PS3 game on duel screens and/or look at it on on screen with something else on the other screen(maybe another player, or a video chat with an online buddy, or a map of your game, manifesto lists, etc.etc.)
I saw some pics and I got chills! :lol:

KKS
05-18-2005, 06:10 PM
Are there any adaptors that converts this HDMI signal to DVI? Cuz i planning to plug it into my monitor.

KKS
05-18-2005, 06:13 PM
Are there any adaptors that converts this HDMI signal to DVI? Cuz i planning to plug it into my monitor.

Coded-Dude
05-18-2005, 06:21 PM
double post...sorry

Coded-Dude
05-18-2005, 06:25 PM
YES GO HERE! (http://www.bettercables.com/dvihdmicables.html?source=GOOGLEADWORDS)

Like I said, they are hoping ot make this the new standad so adapters should be widely available.

SheElf
05-19-2005, 07:11 PM
I cant believe none of you ever heard of vdigi vd-z3 adapter. an adapter that connect any HD sources i.e ps2, xbox, hd dvd player etc to your monitor. i have been using this for ages to enjoy all hd able games especially on xbox on my monitor, my monitor can support 1920x1440@85hz and i already tried 1080p without any problem, but since there is adapter to convert hdmi to dvi, that would be a plus but i dont see the audio cable from the image. hopefully there would be a lot more converters in the future that include audio cable.

i guess we are not talking about dual display after all, with a/v+hd trancoder and 2 hdmi, we are talking about 3 display that can do 1080p folk. oh heaven.

High Lander
05-19-2005, 08:46 PM
i guess we are not talking about dual display after all, with a/v+hd trancoder and 2 hdmi, we are talking about 3 display that can do 1080p folk. oh heaven.

Not heaven, but close

The GPU spec says: 1080p x 2 channels

ps3basefan
05-20-2005, 07:26 PM
If you connect a PC/Xbox2/Ps3 to an adepter to a PC monitor like vdigi vd-z3 adapter, do you get lag? Does it cause any lag at 85hz refresh rate?







I cant believe none of you ever heard of vdigi vd-z3 adapter. an adapter that connect any HD sources i.e ps2, xbox, hd dvd player etc to your monitor. i have been using this for ages to enjoy all hd able games especially on xbox on my monitor, my monitor can support 1920x1440@85hz and i already tried 1080p without any problem, but since there is adapter to convert hdmi to dvi, that would be a plus but i dont see the audio cable from the image. hopefully there would be a lot more converters in the future that include audio cable.

i guess we are not talking about dual display after all, with a/v+hd trancoder and 2 hdmi, we are talking about 3 display that can do 1080p folk. oh heaven.

SheElf
05-20-2005, 09:11 PM
If you connect a PC/Xbox2/Ps3 to an adepter to a PC monitor like vdigi vd-z3 adapter, do you get lag? Does it cause any lag at 85hz refresh rate?
There is no lag whatsoever at least that is what i feel. i heard from someone that transcoder is the only thing lack in some plasma tv that cannot perform HD.

your monitor dont do 85hz in HD modes, 720p means 1280x720@60hz. Progressive scan mode is always 60hz while standard interlaced mode is 25hz or 30hz. what i said was my monitor capables of doing 1920x1440@85 so 1920x1080@60 shouldnt be a problem.

Not heaven, but close

The GPU spec says: 1080p x 2 channels
just realised that, probably 1080p x 2 + 1080i/720p. still not bad at all. I used to make a topic about possiblility of dvi connector and multiple display on ps3 and i guess part of my prayer has been answered.

DofD
05-20-2005, 10:33 PM
First off, hi to everyone as I'm a new poster here. Though I've been reading the forums for quite some time.

There's a couple of points that have been missed in this discussion about using monitors and HDTV's.

Most VGA style monitors have an aspect ratio of 4:3, the same as SDTV (standard definition television). So even if your monitor can handle HD resolutions, you'll have have black bars on the top and bottom of the monitor (just like watching a 16:9 movie on a 4:3 screen). Unless of course you have a 16:9 widescreen monitor.

Then on HDTV's. 1080p is wonderful, but 1080p televisions are not readily available to the consumer yet. Then one has to consider what the native resolution of the HDTV in question is. Most HDTV's have a native resolution that handles 720p. Where 1080i signals are scaled to display within the the televisions native resolution. There are a few televisions that handle 1920x1080 but they are rare and expensive. There are also a number of plasma and LCD display that are in a 16:9 format and say that they are HD ready, but their native resolutions only handle 480p.

Thus it's not all that simple to determine what would be the best display route. As in most things it comes down to a lot of personal preference, room size, location of display, etc.

For me I'll stick with my Sony KDF60XBR950, though the image may not be as sharp as on a 19" computer montor that has a native resolution of 1920x1440.


Cheers,

DofD

ps3basefan
05-20-2005, 10:51 PM
Hi Dod,

Welcome, I am new here too. Thanks for the info. I didn't know about PC monitors would have black bars on top and bottom, that would take a big part of the screen from game video.
There is so much options out there, I think I am going to wait til early 2007' or very late 2006' to buy a PS3/Xbox360 and a HDTV. Hopefully, the Video Equipment Standard for PS3/xbox360 will be set by then...










First off, hi to everyone as I'm a new poster here. Though I've been reading the forums for quite some time.

There's a couple of points that have been missed in this discussion about using monitors and HDTV's.

Most VGA style monitors have an aspect ratio of 4:3, the same as SDTV (standard definition television). So even if your monitor can handle HD resolutions, you'll have have black bars on the top and bottom of the monitor (just like watching a 16:9 movie on a 4:3 screen). Unless of course you have a 16:9 widescreen monitor.

Then on HDTV's. 1080p is wonderful, but 1080p televisions are not readily available to the consumer yet. Then one has to consider what the native resolution of the HDTV in question is. Most HDTV's have a native resolution that handles 720p. Where 1080i signals are scaled to display within the the televisions native resolution. There are a few televisions that handle 1920x1080 but they are rare and expensive. There are also a number of plasma and LCD display that are in a 16:9 format and say that they are HD ready, but their native resolutions only handle 480p.

Thus it's not all that simple to determine what would be the best display route. As in most things it comes down to a lot of personal preference, room size, location of display, etc.

For me I'll stick with my Sony KDF60XBR950, though the image may not be as sharp as on a 19" computer montor that has a native resolution of 1920x1440.


Cheers,

DofD

SheElf
05-21-2005, 12:16 AM
There is no doubt that playing widescreen game on standard monitor will leave 2 black bars top and bottom of the screen but same can be said to watching dvd movies even on a widescreen tele. some people can live with it some might find it annoying. the image shows how widescree resolution will look on standard monitor.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/she-elf/images/thumb.jpg (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/she-elf/images/hl2ws.jpg)

click on the image to view in full size. i the image is in 1600x1200 in which only 1600x900 is the game resolution.

Ibanez32
05-21-2005, 02:46 PM
I could live with that and i just checked and my monitor supports upto 2048x1536 :P

Coded-Dude
05-22-2005, 07:57 PM
I could live with that and i just checked and my monitor supports upto 2048x1536 :P

Your video card also has to support such display....not just your monitor

Ibanez32
05-23-2005, 03:06 PM
yeah it does but did just check online incase my video was limiting it.
21" (19.8" Viewable Screen Size)
2048 x 1536 @ 75 Hz Maximum Resolution
0.24mm Aperture Grille Pitch
Connects Via 15-Pin Mini D-Sub (Analog)
Dual display inputs
Environments: Windows, Mac, and Unix