PS3's Price?

[JetBlackRX89]

I'm watching E3 Live on TechTV right now and they brought up a good point. The PS3 claims a graphics set-up as strong as 2 of the best graphics cards in the world. Each card would cost over $500 though...

So how could the PS3 be sold for anything less then $1000? Not to mention the cell processor and all the heavily advanced tech features. It will also be one of the first Blu Ray players in the USA, and we all know how expensive new tech like that is.

Seriouslly. Going as far as to support 2 of the most expensive HDTVs side by side, displaying half the game on each.

I'd say the PS3 won't be sold for any less than $2,500.

[Illmatic]

I'd say it will release at the same price as the PS1 and PS2 did at launch, NZ$1000.

I really hope Sony follows what MS are doing with their launch of the X360, and that's a worldwide simultaneous release.

[eZ]

I'm watching E3 Live on TechTV right now and they brought up a good point. The PS3 claims a graphics set-up as strong as 2 of the best graphics cards in the world. Each card would cost over $500 though...

So how could the PS3 be sold for anything less then $1000? Not to mention the cell processor and all the heavily advanced tech features. It will also be one of the first Blu Ray players in the USA, and we all know how expensive new tech like that is.

Seriouslly. Going as far as to support 2 of the most expensive HDTVs side by side, displaying half the game on each.

I'd say the PS3 won't be sold for any less than $2,500.

*shakes head*

[JetBlackRX89]

$1000 new zealand is roughly $700 american, right? :shock:

[Illmatic]

$1000 new zealand is roughly $700 american, right? :shock:


Yup, but the PS2 launched in the US for US$300 i think??

We get robbed over here all the time :evil:

[n1n9tean]

there is NO POSSIBLE WAY Sony would be succesful with selling the PS3 at $2,000+ USD. No fuccin way. Surely they thought all this through. If they werent willing to keep the price at a lever where the existing user base of PS2 owners could afford then the just wouldnt have made the system so powerful/expensive.

[JetBlackRX89]

Yeah ps3land said it was sold in the USA for $300.

I really hope it won't cost any more than that. I can see in the long run, 3 years from now we might need all the PS3s power to keep up with demands and growing HDTV popularity, but for now most have standard TV and won't see much benefit from all the potential basically locked in the PS3. Like all consoles, it's potential will finally peak later in its life cycle.

I might buy it in 2 years when games get better, more potential shows in games as developers get more familiar, and most importantly the cost drops to about $200.

[zenodaddy]

$2500? Are you on something lol?

If the PS3 comes in over $400 it will not sell, period. :roll:

[Coded-Dude]

XBOX 360 might have some pricing struggles....they area software company and MUST outsource.

{fanboy comment}
Of course they have already proven that this is just a hobby for them and they don't mind losing money on a product sturggling to find its place int the market
{/fanboy comment}

Sony has already stated they are doing much of the device fabbing in house(CPU and GPU for sure)
Also, it is an industry truism to lose money on a console and make it up with software revenue. I HIGHLY doubt the PS3 will be over $500
(I'd expect between $350 and $500 depending on bundle)

This is the scariest questionfor for ANY gamer anxiously awaiting a product release.... :roll:

[eggyoke]

I agree about the Playstation 3 being exspensive to make... however, Sony knows that the PS3 will sell in mass quantities and thats how they make their money back in the long run. Plus as time goes on, tech gets cheaper and more units are continously shipping worldwide.

Remember top-end PC GPUs have a limited market, most people who buy PCs dont care if the GPU is the most uber in the world. Also another thing to point out about comparing PC GPU price with the GPU used in the PS3 is that when Nvidia/Ati bring out their latest top-of-the-line GPU its only at the top for 5-6 months until the next top GPU is out, then prices fall drastically.

Console GPUs on the other hand last for 5 years at a time, and are guaranteed access to a market of millions of people around the world.

[pdc]

I also feel the PS3 will (should) be priced around £300-350GBP ($500-550USD) at launch.

They have a track record now with the PS2 and PSP of making losses on the hardware sales but making up the money with game sales.

One of the guys on stage said they have spent over 1 billion dollars on R&D for the PS3. I would be interested to know how much profit Sony usually make and how much financial pressure this puts on them to make the PS3 a success.

[GTX_Fusion]

I REALLY REALLY HOPE THE PS3 COMES AROUND $350CDN OR ESE IM BUYING A 360, UNLESS THE 360 COSTS MORE

[Brandon]

They didn't say just because the GPU going into the PS3 will be more powerful than 2 6800 Ultras, that it'll be the same price as the two. The PS3 won't be 1000, I can guarantee you that.

[FerrianX]

One thing is for sure... Sony will not release a price for the Ps3 until M$ does for the Xbox360... and when M$ does release the pricing be sure Sony will match it if not undercut it by a margin of $50-$100 (my personal bet is that they'll match it).

[KiLLA2006]

my guess... Xbox360 - 399.99 USD PS3 - 349.99 USD, reason for this guess, since xbox is so happy that they have released first they might feel that they have a great advantage so they feel releasing at a bit of a higher price can cut down a very few of their losses, then Sony decides, well... we can make it up in software....

mark my words

[cogboy]

i predict the opposite. switch those prices and thats my guess.

[lip2lip]

maybe because of the small drop off in licencing fees for the technology for the video chip. also it may also be because the technology is just licenced, not devoloped, produced, manufactured, distributed, handled, sold, marketted and reinvested through nVidia's own methods.

[ps3basefan]

Don't forget to add the cost of the HDTV, keyboards, larger HD.... We'll spend $1000-$2000 for a complete PS3 over the next 5-7 years...

[trakais]

lol! HDTV alone costs double the price ps3basefan mentioned. plus you need a decent HDTV, not the cheaper 853 X 480 models, you need many times that to enjoy the PS3 res. this means - wait until PS3 is released, probably by that time the plasma tv's will be cheaper and better.

[O.D.S]

i dont know about u guys but i was predicting something along the lines of the following article.

May 17, 2005 - According a an article published in the May 17th edition of Japan's Mainichi Shimbun, the PlayStation 3 could be one of the most expensive mass-market videogame consoles ever created. Officials from Sony apparently told the newspaper that PlayStation 3s would sell in Japan for "less than 50,000 yen each." That translates to about $465 US dollars.


dont get me wrong i not happy at the price but im definatly not surprised (if its true)

[JetBlackRX89]

Well if it's yen to U.S. dollars, everything in Japan is overpriced from their trade imbalance of always exporting but rarely importing... I think.

I would say in the U.S.A. it would be sold for roughly $300 or at most $350.

And I really do hope the cost of HDTV goes down. I was browsing through some that cost $800, but I'm not even sure if they aren't that great because of their cheapness. PS3 is going to make HDTV and Blu-Ray as common as DVDs are today... hopefully.

[The_One]

To whomever that cares:
Just because the GPU costs more than two RETAIL priced curren-gen GPU doesn't mean it'll cost over a thousand bucks. Retail price is FAR from the actual cost of fabricating it, which is usually between 50-100 bucks per GPU, a bit lower for CPU's but that's not the point.
Example:
P4 EE sold for over 1300 CDN at launch, but it only costed them ~$60 to fabricate that darn thing.

Get my point?

[martel]

You can't judge console prices by PC prices. Remember when the PS2 was launched, you got a DVD player with a processor that was reported as being 3 time faster then high end PC CPU along with a variety of IO ports, graphics synth, etc etc for a little over the price of a DVD player. Consoles are cheaper for a variety of reasons, e.g. :
1) They are made in vast quantities, no single model of GPU for a PC is going to sell 90 million units worldwide.
2) They are sold at a loss, and that's based on fabrication price not RRP, the money is made on games.

[Kala]

Heres the info:
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/615/615745p1.html

"Officials from Sony apparently told the newspaper that PlayStation 3s would sell in Japan for "less than 50,000 yen each." That translates to about $465 US dollars."

This i believe isnt such a bad price considering the starting price of the PS2.
I hope competition by Xbox forces PS3 to drop its price by Christmas 2006 and thats when ill buy buy buy!

[Mordecaii]

Notice the quote though... they didn't say "It will sell for 50000 yen", they said it will sell for LESS than that... I'm waiting until they release an official price.

[The_One]

Notice the quote though... they didn't say "It will sell for 50000 yen", they said it will sell for LESS than that... I'm waiting until they release an official price. Hey, sharp eye there Mordecaii ;). Indeed, I'll be waiting for the official word too... It'll probably be a few months before the release, which means somewhere in January 2006.

[WolfWooD]

PS3 for £250?
With all that (promised) horsepower sitting under the hood, £250 seems like a real bargain.




Reports from Japan suggest that PlayStation 3 will sell in Japan for less than 50,000 Yen each. That's got some US games sites up in arms as it converts to $465 - a huge figure. However there's no point getting scared right now, 50,000 Yen is actually around £250 and we've paid a lot more for PlayStation 2 and Xbox at launch than that.

Of course that's assuming that Sony's projected price for the console actually bears some resemblance to what UK gamers will actually have to pay. Certainly UK gamers are often short changed by dollar values being converted to pounds by just changing the sign at the beginning rather than being based on the exchange rate.

source Boomtown.Uk

[gablar16]

Well imho we have to look at the past history of console pricing.

(this is from memory please feel frewe to correct me if i's wrong)

PSone release same price as the n64, 199

PS2 release, same price as DC 299. Then when xbox released ps2 dropped the price to undercut Xbox, but Xbox match the price at release.

PS3 price? easy, whatever price point xbox has. And probably upon release of the PS3, MSFT will announce a price reduction on 360.

my best guess is PS3 will cost min. of 350US at release.

[The_One]

My bet is this: Whatever Microsoft prices the Xbox 360, that's going to be the same price for the PS3. No more, no less.

[hawaii50]

My bet is this: Whatever Microsoft prices the Xbox 360, that's going to be the same price for the PS3. No more, no less.

exactly. i bet it'll be @ $300-$350 USD. <-- Thats really not a low price anyways. I guarantee it costs less than $100 to make the GPU. I have a family member who works @ nVidia, and to make a 6800 costs less than $100... and you can bet your @$$ that they've already surpassed the GPU in the PS3 already... its all about demand.. in a year or so they'll release some uber new card thats been done.. just sitting on a shelf waiting.

oh yeah.. hi. this is my first post. :)

[Coded-Dude]

As long as it falls inline with lowend PC prices I am happy(which is normally the case)
I know things have gotten smaller and cheaper over the last half decade or so.
But how much was a top-end pc priced compared to the PS2 when it launched.(or just a PC relative to PS2's power)

This is, in theory, one of the reasons to get a console......you cant spend the same amount of money to get the same graphics and power on a PC.

@ ps3basefan
Nah, probably MUCH sooner, I've already spent over 1K on my two PSP's(the GF had to have one too)
{off topic}
It gets a little pricey buying two games at a time....I wish they woudl make some "game sharing" for the PSP already! :?
Anywho, I'm fixing to travel around the world for a bit, and wouldn't you know it, there will be exactly seven of us going! GOOD JOB SONY!
{/off topic}

[rev>thanu]

i think both xbox 360 and Ps3 starting selling points will range from 350-400 US dollars but that's just me

[gnznroses]

from ign:

E3 2005: PS3 Price Revealed?
One of the most expensive consoles ever created, according to Japanese reports.
by Matt Casamassina
May 17, 2005 - According a an article published in the May 17th edition of Japan's Mainichi Shimbun, the PlayStation 3 could be one of the most expensive mass-market videogame consoles ever created. Officials from Sony apparently told the newspaper that PlayStation 3s would sell in Japan for "less than 50,000 yen each." That translates to about $465 US dollars.


Sony unveiled its next-generation console at the Electronics Entertainment Expo 2005. The beast of a machine utilizes the powerful Cell processor, a custom-designed graphics chip by Nvidia, and 512MBs of RAM for a quantum leap in performance. The system will also be the first-ever to support high-def movie-playback out of the box, taking advantage of the upcoming Blu-ray Disc format.
Sony claims that PS3 will be roughly 35 times more powerful than PS2. If Mainichi Shimbun is correct, gamers will be asked to pay a hefty price for the high-end functionality.

IGN was unable to validate this news with Sony officials. Stay tuned for more as the story breaks.

[the legendary ice man]

GameSpot's is almost indentical.

I spotted it on GI.biz.

Anyway, Something that might consider is the Sony stuff has a very evil and HIGHLY unfair habit of costing a LOT more in europe.

Europe might be looking at the £400 range, instead of the slightly, and acceptable markup to £300 :(

Such a brilliant thing brought down by sony's capitalisation on exchange rates.


Additionally...where are people getting the idea of the DVD re/write ability that crops up in the GI and a few other posts about the news?

[Rallyracr420]

The x360 will definitely cost less than the PS3. Its got cheaper components all around:
cheaper wireless controllers
cheaper network interface
cheaper optical disc technology
cheaper chip technology
cheaper RAM
cheaper GPU
The only thing that's more expensive is the harddrive.

MS's goal was to make the X360 cheap to begin with, and Sony doesn't appear to have any cost conscious decisions in mind. If they came out at the same price then Sony would definitely be losing more per console sold than MS. If that happens then the X360 price will easily fall in price faster than the PS3. Basically if you buy the PS3 you're going to pay for what you get, but it'll be worth it.

[despistao]

the cheaper the xbox gets, the cheaper the ps3 will be

so let's hope that microsoft gets a very low prices from the real manufacturers of the
hardware.

[Ibanez32]

Although i'm sure the 360's price will have an affect i'm sure the ps3 will be more. But at the same time if it was cheaper than the 360 it would make alot of peoples decisions up.

[Z]

The x360 will definitely cost less than the PS3. Its got cheaper components all around
yes, it does. but you also have to take into account that PS3 is mostly in-hous made. that makes a big difference. how much exactly? we will never know.

another note is that we need to becareful when comparing Japanese prices. Japan is the most expensive country in the world. for a quick example, compare the DVD prices between them and yours. also, analysts said PSP would be between $400-500. they were far off.

[O.D.S]

i for one dont see the big deal if the PS3 is $350 USD becuase here in Australia it will undoubtably be higer than $799 AUSD :(

(and curently the exchange rate is: $1AUS dollar =~ 75US cents)
so we in Australia (maybe NZ?) are getting the worst end of the stick

and this is all after we will get the PS3 several months later (PS2 was 6 Months late!) hope not with the PS3

[Z]

Goldman Sachs expects Microsoft will move approximately 3 million Xbox 360 units in the December quarter, "with demand exceeding supply". Goldman noted that the console could be sold at a retail price that is more than it had expected.
source (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/05/19/goldman_sachs_on_xbox_360_pricing/)

keep in mind that Xbox is a financial disaster. so how excited do you think investors are about a next, weaker, installment? that only adds more wight to MS's bills. and there is a limit on how much losses a company could take- even MS.

[Commissar]

I've been reading posts like "The Ps3 will have this and this chip and those chips cost hundreds of dollars, so if you sum it all up, the Ps3 CAN NOT cost less than $1000 or $2000 or $whatever." This couldn't be further from the truth. The games released on the Ps3 aren't very costly (don't start about game development, it still doesn't weigh up to the price they're sold at) and this is where sony gets its profits from, not the game engine itself.

Because of this Sony is very likely to sell the PlayStation3 for LESS than the productioncost, the games annul the loss of the sold game-engine because everybody who boys a Ps3 will buy games for it. Plus, there is no market for a $1000 game engine

[the legendary ice man]

PS3 games are officially going to cost less to develop than the PS2 games because the technology isn't going to be as challenging to master.

Another rumour is that it will be released either stateside or in europe BEFORE Japan :D

source: www.gamesindustry.biz

[Mordecaii]

Almost every console released has released for a price less than it cost to manufacture at first. The PS1, PS2, Xbox, Dreamcast, etc all cost more to make than they were initially released for. So how do these companies make money you ask? Well, games are certainly part of it. The other part is the fact that the more a product is produced, the cheaper it becomes to manufacture. As manufacturing costs go down, the companies can start making money. Since Microsoft doesn't make their own parts, they will be losing money for a far longer time than Sony. Since Sony is using the CELL in other products, and they are manufacturing it along with the GPU, the Blu-Ray drives, and most likely 80% of the rest of the hardware, they will be able to lower the cost of the components a lot more quickly than Microsoft. It is invaluable to be able to make your own products, and while Microsoft may have a slight edge on software expertise, we cannot forget how big of a deal it is that Sony is an electronics giant.

[O.D.S]

here is a quote from Sony's President hinting at a high cost for PS3


The gloves have come off early as the competition between Sony and Microsoft for the next-gen games console market begins.

In an interview with Reuters, Sony Computer Entertainment CEO Kazuo Hirai branded the XBox 360 a combination of todays technology that wasn't future-proofed, referred to it as the XBox 1.5 and said having a goal of being first to market, as Microsoft have done, was like "missing the forest for the trees".

Hirai also said the Playstation 3 would be packed with future technology, hinting that because of this, consumers would be willing to pay a higher price for it, perhaps lending some more weight to the rumour yesterday that the PS3 would cost in or around $465.

[OzzysCross101]

$465 for the console dreams will be made of? I'd definately buy it right away. I think it would be between $400 and $500. I would be more than happy to pay between those prices. mean, can you put a price on having the most advanced technology for a few years? I personally cant find a reason. :P

[O.D.S]

this statement from Sony seems to be very accurate if you ask me.

Sony has announced that they will firstly want to see how sales of the new Xbox 360 hold up first before committing to a price tag

Well i guess that the price will be revealed from (earliest) mid November right up until the initial release.

[O.D.S]

heres some good news if it turns out to be true

Sony PS3 Price Drops Lower than Expected
New information appears that Sony will launch the Sony PlayStation 3 at the same price point it launched the Sony PS2.

Have you ever driven in LA traffic? This is the kind of drive we had last week we had when arriving at the Sony Studios last week prior to E3. This is where we got our first look at the PlayStation 3.

As we reported live from E3, the Sony PS3 price would be around $465. However, new information appears that Sony would launch the Sony PS3 at the same price point it launched the Sony PS2. This would mean a price around $370.

Also Sony might do a global launch for the first time. I guess all depends on how successful the Microsoft Xbox 360 is going to be. This will influence the price and the launch strategy for the Playstation 3 in 2006.

(sorry for double posting, but i didnt realise i was the last to post here almost a week ago :oops: )

[chrismt]

Darn you got to it before me :)

PS3 to have same launch price as PS2?

Report says Sony will price the PS3 under 40,000 yen, raising speculation that it might launch at the same price as its previous two consoles.
Last week, the Mainichi Daily News quoted Sony Computer Entertainment officials as saying the PlayStation 3 would be priced at under 50,000 yen ($465.58). Now it appears that the console may be even cheaper when it goes on sale next year.


Today, Japanese Web site Impress PC Watch reported that SCE has told its business partners that the PS3 will be under 40,000 yen ($370) at launch. The news has spurred speculation that the company might launch the machine with the same price it set for the PlayStation and PlayStation 2. Both machines were priced at 39,800 yen ($368) when they launched in 1994 and 2000, respectively.

Sony's PS3 will be competing with Microsoft's Xbox 360 and Nintendo's Revolution in the next-generation console wars. When it launched in Japan in 2002, Microsoft's current-generation Xbox was priced at 34,800 yen ($322). The company has been shaving down the console's cost since then, and it currently sells at 17,640 yen ($163).

Nintendo's GameCube made its debut in 2001 at 25,000 yen ($231)--the lowest launch price of the three current-generation home consoles. The GameCube continues to be the lowest priced console on the market, currently marked down to 14,000 yen ($130). Nintendo has never priced any of its past consoles higher than 25,000 yen at launch, which could well be the same case for the Revolution. During E3, Nintendo president Satoru Iwata stated that he hopes to "keep the Revolution at a price range that anyone can reach out for, and nothing as high as 50,000 yen ($463)."


Source: http://gamespot.com/news/2005/05/24/news_6126410.html

J Allard also let slip that the 360 would launch in the neighborhood of $300 and its target ship date was Thanksgiving.

Source: http://gamespot.com/news/2005/05/27/news_6126611.html

Sony thus has even longer to determine the price range. They will most likely sell the PS3 at a premium compared to the 360, similar to the PSP and how much more it costs than the DS. So, $300 - $400 max.