Final Fantasy VII Tech Demo

[neptunelove]

sorry if this has been asked but i cant find a site that works for downloading it .i tried gamespot but all it would let me download this htm file.darn shiku shiku (BOO HOO) then i tried ign but it said the page didnt exist so im sad . can anybody help me ?

[neptunelove]

anybody wanna help me out

[WolfWooD]

ye sure its in here just scroll down http://www.gamespot.com/e3/e3movies.html

[neptunelove]

the servers are down so do u know anyother place if not thanks for trying :)

[rev>thanu]

i think i would have been more impressed if square enix were to show a side by side comparison of yuna doing her dance on the water from FFX CG and show the CG and a real time version side by side on ps3. i'm still impressed though, cloud and aerith looked almost as good as their pre rendered CGI couterpart in Advent children. :shock:

[WolfWooD]

I can stream the movies there, but i cant download them database overloaded or some like that :)


But they got it on gametrailers to http://www.gametrailers.com/e3_2k5_ps3.php

[eggyoke]

IGN have it here:

http://media.ps3.ign.com/articles/614/614940/vids_1.html

I pray to GOD in heaven that Square-enix makes this game! Ple~~~~eease!!!

I swear! If they dont create this game, after the huge amount of fans that have begged for it! After continuously telling us "No! Be quiet!" and creating spin-off series of the FF7 name, rubbing it in... then to top it off create the most gorgeous looking tech-demo of the game in real-time.... I will seriously do something if they dont make it!! Something bad.................


....something like......



....sit in the corner and cry pathetically... :cry:

[Brandon]

The speaker for Squaresoft said this wasn't going to be a remake, but he sort of laughed at the very end of the sentence...so it's a little suspicious.

[julps31]

So what does it look like? At first from what I heard it was an exact recreation of the CG from Final Fantasy 7. But now I hear it looks closer to Advent Children. So what is it? :?

[Brandon]

So what does it look like? At first from what I heard it was an exact recreation of the CG from Final Fantasy 7. But now I hear it looks closer to Advent Children. So what is it? :?
It looks closer to Advent Children. Anyone who said it looks like an "exact recreation" from the original hasn't watched the video.

[FerrianX]

The speaker for Squaresoft said this wasn't going to be a remake, but he sort of laughed at the very end of the sentence...so it's a little suspicious.

When he laughed I got the impression it's because he sorta knew people were gonna ask the question "will you create a FFVII-2 on Ps3?!?!"...

Also since their still working on Advent Children / Dirge de Cerberus / and Final Fantasy XII, they've already got their plate full.

[Brandon]

Well...he was serious up until the very end of the sentence. It looked a little strange.

[julps31]

So what does it look like? At first from what I heard it was an exact recreation of the CG from Final Fantasy 7. But now I hear it looks closer to Advent Children. So what is it? :?
It looks closer to Advent Children. Anyone who said it looks like an "exact recreation" from the original hasn't watched the video.Well I was a little confused when I read the IGN atrical I thought thats what they were saying. That it was an recreation of the PS1 cinema (wich wouldn't be impressive at all) lol.

[Brandon]

So what does it look like? At first from what I heard it was an exact recreation of the CG from Final Fantasy 7. But now I hear it looks closer to Advent Children. So what is it? :?
It looks closer to Advent Children. Anyone who said it looks like an "exact recreation" from the original hasn't watched the video.Well I was a little confused when I read the IGN atrical I thought thats what they were saying.
That's why you shouldn't read articles from IGN. ;)

[eggyoke]

After the FF7 demo was played the crowd went nuts, then the Square guy said something like "Please note, Final Fantasy VII will not be made for PS3" or something along those lines, however as soon as he said that someone in the crowd must have said/shouted their dissapointment because it made him turn towards that area of the crowd and laugh, put his hand out and say "however, Final Fantasy will be made on PS3"

Not word for word, but you get the idea. They know how much people want a remake... so by showing that demo, they're pretty much rubbing it in our faces. Thats why I believe they will make it, otherwise their is no way they would have done it IMO.

[rev>thanu]

julps it even uses tetsuya nomura's character designs. also cloud doesn't feature the new style of clothing from advent children but the old purple and black suit. also the sword remains the same as in the original game and not the new sword design from advent children. the character looked so detail that it killed the detail shown in Dawn. still the textures don't come near the resolution of the movie but it sure does compare to the textures from Final Fantasy X CGI. I thought hair was going to look pretty bad with this coming gen, but i was completely wrong. the hair looked stunning and you could see individual eye lashes, brows on cloud and individual head hair strands. the only thing that gave it away like i said the skin textures needed to be higher or more detailed and the haird need more per pixel lighting etc. other than that if you wanna check it out go to the link below.

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http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=5846&type=mov

[Brandon]

still the textures don't come near the resolution of the movie but it sure does compare to the textures from Final Fantasy X CGI
After playing Final Fantasy X 4 times and watching the FFVII tech demo 20 times ( ;) ), I'm going to disagree with you there.

[julps31]

julps it even uses tetsuya nomura's character designs. also cloud doesn't feature the new style of clothing from advent children but the old purple and black suit. also the sword remains the same as in the original game and not the new sword design from advent children. the character looked so detail that it killed the detail shown in Dawn. still the textures don't come near the resolution of the movie but it sure does compare to the textures from Final Fantasy X CGI. I thought hair was going to look pretty bad with this coming gen, but i was completely wrong. the hair looked stunning and you could see individual eye lashes, brows on cloud and individual head hair strands. the only thing that gave it away like i said the skin textures needed to be higher or more detailed and the haird need more per pixel lighting etc. other than that if you wanna check it out go to the link below.

right click to save

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=5846&type=movSounds sweet...thanks for the link. I'll check it out when i'm on a comp where I can view it.

[rev>thanu]

still the textures don't come near the resolution of the movie but it sure does compare to the textures from Final Fantasy X CGI
After playing Final Fantasy X 4 times and watching the FFVII tech demo 20 times ( ;) ), I'm going to disagree with you there.

Actually the textures do look near and very close to that of the FFX CGI. The characters looked very high in polygon count and might i remind you that a full fledge designed real time version of shira was shown here. I think what attracks the eye more to FFX and fooling it into thinking it looks better is the fact that FFX uses Raytraycing and no amount of per pixel lighting/shading or tricks can replace that. That's why FFX CG looks so much better. But here you can barely tell the difference from a high polygon Prerender CG character from the Real time version of cloud. like i said the hair and the lighting is what gives it way and the lip textures. but that's about it everything else looks stunning.

[Brandon]

It's just our differing opinions...nothing else. ;)

[rev>thanu]

yeah i know what you mean but if you take how detail the skin looked on killzone characters and implement that level of detail to cloud and aerith from the FF7 techdemo it would definetely match FFX character textures. after i watched it again i noticed what you said. it looks more like FF8 CG actually. it actually looks exactly the same in terms of texture detail etc. i think that FFX CGI quality can be reached by the end of ps3's life cycle though or maybe even sooner since it's easy to program for now.

[eggyoke]

I've just watched it again, and I personally think Aerith is not that detailed, especially her skin. It seems too smooth and light coloured. Her hair and dress as she begins walking look amazing though.

I believe they purposfully meant to make her skin that way. If you look at the original CG movie of that clip, and at the games artwork... its kind of like a style which the game had. So yeah I think it was made that way on purpose.

If that is true, it brings up another question: Why would they not try to create a full blown real Aerith looking model if it were a tech-demo? Shouldn't the tech-demo be made to show-off how good textures can look? I mean take a look at Aerith skin, then take a look at the Tekken video of Jin. You can tell the difference big-time (if tekken is realtime of course).

Suspicious indeed....


Another reason I posted was about the music. I have probably ALL the arrangements of Final Fantasy VII music thats been made (yeah I'm a FF7 freak :wink:) and I've never heard that type before. I know the amount you hear is only short and quiet, however it makes you think.... why would you create a whole new arrangement of at least 2 of the main tracks from the first OST CD just for a tech demo?

Someone must have sat down and created and recorded those arrangements just for that demo... which is not a quick and easy task to do.

I just find this whole thing very suspicious. In a good way.


::EDIT::

Sorry I was wrong, it was only 1 track of the OST that was created for the tech-demo. But I still think my suspiciouns count.

[Red_Eyes]

Just go to Gametrailers.com
There's a FF7 tech demo for PS3 video there. Search for it.

[rekkit]

I think there could be a couple of reasons why they didn’t really go all out on the FFVII tech demo, nearly all the other demo's were games that are coming to the ps3, so what they use in the demos (textures and models..) can be re-used in the up coming game, where as Square probably have other games in development for the ps3, so how long do they spend on just making a demo.

Maybe the reason they chose FFVII was that it was one on the breakthrough games on the first ps1.

The other explanation is that they were trying to match the original fmv sequence, maybe just in a higher resolution.

For me, when the camera pulled out to give you a view of the city matched nearly anything else in the presentation.

[Fazares]

rev>thanu,you have to see what epic has achieved with per pixel lighting tech,in the u2007 demo,to se how close it is to ray tracing...

[The_One]

rev>thanu,you have to see what epic has achieved with per pixel lighting tech,in the u2007 demo,to se how close it is to ray tracing... Close, but not close enough.

There's a reason why people use ray-tracing in pre-rendered CGI... :roll:.

[Mordecaii]

Yes, yes, and ray tracing is the better method, but just because a game doesn't have ray tracing, it doesn't mean that it doesn't look awesome! Besides, it's entirely possible they could come up with a new method to calculate lighting that is faster and just as good quality... New hardware often drives the techniques of programming.

[Fazares]

rev>thanu,you have to see what epic has achieved with per pixel lighting tech,in the u2007 demo,to se how close it is to ray tracing... Close, but not close enough.

There's a reason why people use ray-tracing in pre-rendered CGI... :roll:.
close enough...trust me... :wink:

[The_One]

fazares, you should know by now that I never trust you :lol: (Joke).

Yes, it'll be close enough to fool the average joe... Afterall, no one is going ti squint and look at the shadows while playing UT 2007 anyways :lol:.

Imagine this scenario:
Player 1: Hey, that guy's shadow is a few inches off
Player 2: *Frags Player 1* What did you say?
:lol:

[Fazares]

fazares, you should know by now that I never trust you :lol: (Joke).

Yes, it'll be close enough to fool the average joe... Afterall, no one is going ti squint and look at the shadows while playing UT 2007 anyways :lol:.

Imagine this scenario:
Player 1: Hey, that guy's shadow is a few inches off
Player 2: *Frags Player 1* What did you say?
:lol:
instead, i always trust you,pal... :lol:
anyway,that was what i intend...and note that you havent to be the average joe to be fooled while playing an u2007 game... :lol:

[Dralor]

It would of made a hell of a launch title though. :(

[extremegamer]

This is my first post here on PSINEXT so bear with me.

After viewing the FF7 tech demo I find it hard to believe that SquareEnix would recreate the intro to the original FF7 just to show us what the PS3 can do. I mean if you think about it, FF7 is what made SquareEnix what it is today. So here goes my prediction of what they have in store.

They have already begun working on FF7 obviously by showing us the intro. They are maybe a few months into development, say 5 at the most. Since the game is already coded for on the PS1, it won't take alot to port the story to the PS3. What they will focus on is upgrading the graphics (obviously), and adding new stuff like say, voiceovers, some new music tracks, and some other genius stuff that only they could think of. With the new Blu-Ray discs they could fit the whole game on one disc and include sutff like artwork, the whole soundtrack, a whole "Making of the Remake" kind of thing. And since it wouldn't take as much time to create all this because they have in essence alredy created the game on the PS1, they could come out with a big bombshell at their annual SquareEnix show saying FF7 will be released for the PS3 and god forbidding, it will be a launch title. That would kill the xbox360 dead in it's tracks if they tried to release Halo 3 the same day.

Now I know this sounds really farfetched, but I know most of you out there wishes it would happen. Post your reply's because I want to hear what people think about this idea.

[RichardCypher101]

A Final Fantasy VII Remake would make S-E an instant needed millions in the bank. They've been beating around the bush with all of these other games in the FFVII Compilation for a reason IMO...Because they cannot bring their vision out with the current limitations of hardware, so they're waiting for Next-Gen to roll around and release it on the PS3 (God forbid letting Sony Publish it again tho...ughh..).

-Rich

[haggisns]

I can't understand why people think FFVII was so amazing, honestly, after the 23rd time a played it through completely, I was getting a little bored of it...

[WolfWooD]

I would love to se a ff9 remake, cause havent realy tried ff7 yet, startet whit 8 and completet all till now. But i heard so much about ff7 that would love a remake on the ps3 :)

[rev>thanu]

Why is Final Fantasy 7 such a great game?. well it marked a new beggining in the series. It was the first 3D final fantasy with Pre Rendered backgrounds. It was also the first FF to include nice CGI (for that time period). It portrayed character's emotions through the slight facial animations on the CGs. Also it was the first final fantasy to actually have such character development and twisted plot. It messed around with the players mind because no one could ever figure out that cloud was in reality a clone of sephiroth. The same evil that he is trying to destroy and the same evil that is trying to destroy the planet is actually clouds father basically. Also the death of aerith, which captivated the players heart. unlike in FFX and X-2 were tidus was dead to begin with and came back in X-2, aerith isn't really coming back. FFVII had the player captivated with a swirl of emotions that no other Final Fantasy can ever get back. if you Played FF7 first than the others then you would know this. It's like saying that Matrix Revolutions is better than the first Matrix, which is not.

The first Matrix introduced the idea and the other two movies are just evolved versions of the first. You see new things add but is not the same as saying seeing it the first time.

[Fazares]

Why is Final Fantasy 7 such a great game?. well it marked a new beggining in the series. It was the first 3D final fantasy with Pre Rendered backgrounds. It was also the first FF to include nice CGI (for that time period). It portrayed character's emotions through the slight facial animations on the CGs. Also it was the first final fantasy to actually have such character development and twisted plot. It messed around with the players mind because no one could ever figure out that cloud was in reality a clone of sephiroth. The same evil that he is trying to destroy and the same evil that is trying to destroy the planet is actually clouds father basically. Also the death of aerith, which captivated the players heart. unlike in FFX and X-2 were tidus was dead to begin with and came back in X-2, aerith isn't really coming back. FFVII had the player captivated with a swirl of emotions that no other Final Fantasy can ever get back. if you Played FF7 first than the others then you would know this. It's like saying that Matrix Revolutions is better than the first Matrix, which is not.

The first Matrix introduced the idea and the other two movies are just evolved versions of the first. You see new things add but is not the same as saying seeing it the first time.
no cloud isnt sephiroth clone..go play the game..

[raVen]

I can't understand why people think FFVII was so amazing, honestly, after the 23rd time a played it through completely, I was getting a little bored of it...

Lmao i got tired around 30 or so, then i went back to beat the weapon in the desert

Cloud is a clone of sephiroth

FF7 twisited you mind a little too much\

Actually you might be right sort of... has anyone played that japanese version that had more story that was taken out of the the american and european version?

[Fazares]

I can't understand why people think FFVII was so amazing, honestly, after the 23rd time a played it through completely, I was getting a little bored of it...

Lmao i got tired around 30 or so, then i went back to beat the weapon in the desert

Cloud is a clone of sephiroth

FF7 twisited you mind a little too much\

Actually you might be right sort of... has anyone played that japanese version that had more story that was taken out of the the american and european version?
cloud and sephiroth just shared some jenova cell....the main reason cloud got the geostigma illness...in ff7ac.

[indiekid4]

Ahh, the beautiful FFVII debate begins again. All I nkow is out of all the FF games I have played (and that is almost all of them) VII is by far the most memorable because of the characters and of course because of Ruby and Emerald Weapons....i remember when I finally took both of those guys down...i felt like a King..unstoppable! Haven't really had that kind of experience or gratification playing any other game....god damn I love FF 7...i hope they remake it! Also, the whole chocobo side quest was the best! The green, Black, blue and gold chocobo's! woot! i digress.......

[eggyoke]

Final Fantasy VII was the most memorable video game I've ever played.

If this game is remade and released near the time of PS3s is launched then X360 will be truly slaughtered - unmerecifully.

I cant help imagine what this game will be like on PS3! With the graphics we see in the tech-demo... can you imagine what it'll be like playing through the whole FF7 world again??

Reaching the chocobo farm, trying to cross the swamp with that huge snake (wonder how they will handle that on PS3?) chocobo breeding, going to the Shinra Mansion, replaying every scene with Sephiroth! fighting the weapons, infiltrating Shinra building, the temple of the ancients, the turks, going to space in Cids rocket, Jenova, the whole reunion thing! meteor! renewed music, detailed larger towns . Imagine all that on the PS3!***OVERLOAD***

I swear the day I have that game in my hands, I'll strip-off and run around the streets naked.

[KKS]

I think what FF7 did real well is conveying the sense of the end of the world. The game has certain atmoshpere that just cannot be replicated, maybe its because for many of us, its the first game of its kind that it just got stuck in our memories.

[Carn]

oy..you guys might want to give some spoiler warning for the few who havent played it :)

But yeah..FF7 was the first game which appealed to more people besides the "real" RPG fans. This because of the graphics, video, etc. One of the first RPGs which looked GOOD (for that time).

Also the story is the best..it shares the #1 spot with FF6

Well now...an FF6 remake..that would rock :)

[NakedJohnny]

hmmmm a remake of ff6 would be a better idea IMO.

I mean the transition of a fantastic 2d rpg to 3d one would be better because..well ff7 is already 3d. But anyway I would sell a kidney to buy either so meh.

[eggyoke]

Nah FF6 remake wouldn't be better IMO. There is a way bigger fanbase for FF7 than FF6. I knows loads of people who are RPG fans and havent even played FF6.

Plus nearly everybody knows about FF7 and how good it is, regardless if they are fanboys/girls of opposing consoles or not. FF7's popularity is universal lol.

But I dunno, maybe if the FF7 remake does extremely well... then we'll see other FF's being remade. Personally though I would prefer to see FF8 than FF6.

[Z]

the best FF games: 8 and 10!

I would DIE to see a remake of the stunning 8!

veeeetus....veetu-say...


P.S. the opening orchestra is Nobuo Uimatsu's best piece (as he admited himselfe) I love it and 10's simply fantastic key sound tracks.

[Goki]

I think ive figured out why S E hasnt said anything bout FF7 for PS3,
And why that guy at E3 after the presentation "hinted" that a remake for PS3 is not planned....

Reason is S E wants to makesome proper cash. Not only by making the remake 4 PS3 which of course would sell loads, but so that SONY will pay them loads aswell for a exclusive. Think about it. Why else would that guy tease fans like that right infront of Ken and Kaz. To show them that there is a HUUGE market for that game. Only hours later, same president of S E is at Microsoft conf and talking bout FFXI and future plans...

This i think is what S E are trying to do, get as much royality from SONY as Tecmo does from Microsoft. Of course I mean they also have other goals like waiting for a proper platform (could ps3 be it or ps4) But main reason is money.

[blue lion]

the best FF games: 8 and 10!

I would DIE to see a remake of the stunning 8!

i think ff8 is the worst from ff series, and ff10 is just about graphics.

ff7 is perfect, honestly when i saw the tech demo i almost cried :cry:

[Z]

everybody has a preference. FF8 & 10 are more alike. FF9 is a traditional RPG (generic, kiddy designs). so if you like one RPG, chances are you're going to like others similar to it. I love the mature, more 'real' looking RPGs than the old school like Ys, Shining Tears and what not. that is why my best ever RPGs are FF8 and 10. period.
oh and FF10-2 is anshamefull imbarrisment!. note that I actually met people that said it was THE best FF ever! to make it worse, they were males!!

see? that is just a quick example on how deferent tasts we have. that is the beauty of FF; every part is a brand new saga.

the fantisy is never final...

[rpgamer_2k5]

I also prefer FFVIII and FFXI over the rest.

Right after that, FFVI and FFVII will be my choice. IMHO, most gamers could even play FFVII today since the graphics surpass many of the lower end PS2 RPGs. Moreover the sales argument really doesn't work because FFVIII sold alot more units then VII. Square-Enix needs to do something new or atleast make a remake of games like Secret of Mana or Dragon Warrior VI which are difficult to acquire.

[rev>thanu]

Why is Final Fantasy 7 such a great game?. well it marked a new beggining in the series. It was the first 3D final fantasy with Pre Rendered backgrounds. It was also the first FF to include nice CGI (for that time period). It portrayed character's emotions through the slight facial animations on the CGs. Also it was the first final fantasy to actually have such character development and twisted plot. It messed around with the players mind because no one could ever figure out that cloud was in reality a clone of sephiroth. The same evil that he is trying to destroy and the same evil that is trying to destroy the planet is actually clouds father basically. Also the death of aerith, which captivated the players heart. unlike in FFX and X-2 were tidus was dead to begin with and came back in X-2, aerith isn't really coming back. FFVII had the player captivated with a swirl of emotions that no other Final Fantasy can ever get back. if you Played FF7 first than the others then you would know this. It's like saying that Matrix Revolutions is better than the first Matrix, which is not.

The first Matrix introduced the idea and the other two movies are just evolved versions of the first. You see new things add but is not the same as saying seeing it the first time.
no cloud isnt sephiroth clone..go play the game..

actually cloud is a clone of Sephiroth. also they did not share jenova cells. in Advent Children the whole planet is suffering from geostigma. it doesn't matter if you have jenova cells or not. if you're touched by the life stream you get geostigma. geostigma is a way to return life force to the planet by killing it's inhabitants. after the incident of meteor the planet needed a to heal itself.
Also you go play it again and if you watched the trailer you notice that Kadaj(Sephiroth's clone) calls cloud his brother and at the end of the trailer he says "so i was a tool but so were you". This is from the latest trailer of the movie. Also the character with genova cells in their body have cat-like eyes. Cloud's eyes aren't like that so it indicates that he was cloned before Sephiroth was experimented on with jenova. Also if you see Cloud, Sephiroth,Kadaj and the other two have exactly the same face just different hair dues. At least that's the way i understood the storyline which i played it a long time ago. i replayed it a year ago too but i kind of skimmed through the reading. I left it in disk 2 so i'm still not done, i've been trying to beat my other games. Anyways correct me if i'm wrong about the storyline it's been so long.

[Overload]

Im just waiting for XII to see all the big changes, Square should look towards making other kinds of games rather than rpgs. I know thats were there prime work really shines but it would be nice if they can bring there triple A quality to other genres. Rad Racer, Einhander, Parasite Eve, even the Bouncer, I like the ideas in all those titles.

[eggyoke]

Square in the old days used to be about the game and its quality/heart. Now its about money, then the game. They have become much more business minded... and are very succesful at it.

However as a HUGE rpg fan... I cant help but feel dissapointed. After FF8 the Final Fantasy series has changed. It is no longer created through individual innovation, inspired dreams and forsight. It is now crafted and focussed around 'market appeal' then exploited to hell and back for financial gain. Kudos goes out to Square-Enix for this, they are a very succesful company. But as a gamer and fan of their work... I feel let down.

I know a lot of people wont agree with me, mostly those who are new to RPG or the series in general. I dont mean to sound like an old fossil who wont shut-up about the old days but... "they sure dont make them like they used to."

[Mordecaii]

I'm going to disagree with you eggyoke and say that I loved Kingdom Hearts and FFX. The first play-through, I'll admit that I didn't like FFX (mostly due to hating the ending, although FFX-2 fixed that), but the second time I played through it, I loved it. I'll say that FFVII was my favorite of all time (followed closely by Chrono Trigger and FFVI), but Square is still my favorite console RPG maker. In fact, FFVIII has been my least favorite so far.

[Z]

I disagree with you eggyoke, SE puts heart and sole into their games like no one else! I am mainly taking about FF games as there other experiments are not as good. No other game series than FF and no other than SE can keep on rasing the bar with each release. SE could easily make clones like FF10-2. that would be the easy way. But no, each game has a totally different art direction, theme, story, characters, saga, and imagination. No other game series in freakin’ history has this much freakin’ CG with this much freakin’ high quality!! Do you have any idea how much time, effort, talent, imagination, quality, experience and devotion all those CG scenes take?! It is enough to make a whole CG movie on its own!
I highly admire SE for their CG miracle work that NO OTHER even comes close.

[rpgamer_2k5]

You're forgetting about the Dragon Quest/Warrior series, it is one of SE's top of the line RPGs, if not the best. :D

An RPG I want to see resurrected is Valkyrie's Profile and Vagrant Story, two RPGs that were very unique. I'm pretty sure a Parasite Eve 3 is going to come out eventually.

[Dralor]

My only gripe with FF8 is they made the system too easy to abuse.

[Fazares]

Why is Final Fantasy 7 such a great game?. well it marked a new beggining in the series. It was the first 3D final fantasy with Pre Rendered backgrounds. It was also the first FF to include nice CGI (for that time period). It portrayed character's emotions through the slight facial animations on the CGs. Also it was the first final fantasy to actually have such character development and twisted plot. It messed around with the players mind because no one could ever figure out that cloud was in reality a clone of sephiroth. The same evil that he is trying to destroy and the same evil that is trying to destroy the planet is actually clouds father basically. Also the death of aerith, which captivated the players heart. unlike in FFX and X-2 were tidus was dead to begin with and came back in X-2, aerith isn't really coming back. FFVII had the player captivated with a swirl of emotions that no other Final Fantasy can ever get back. if you Played FF7 first than the others then you would know this. It's like saying that Matrix Revolutions is better than the first Matrix, which is not.

The first Matrix introduced the idea and the other two movies are just evolved versions of the first. You see new things add but is not the same as saying seeing it the first time.
no cloud isnt sephiroth clone..go play the game..

actually cloud is a clone of Sephiroth. also they did not share jenova cells. in Advent Children the whole planet is suffering from geostigma. it doesn't matter if you have jenova cells or not. if you're touched by the life stream you get geostigma. geostigma is a way to return life force to the planet by killing it's inhabitants. after the incident of meteor the planet needed a to heal itself.
Also you go play it again and if you watched the trailer you notice that Kadaj(Sephiroth's clone) calls cloud his brother and at the end of the trailer he says "so i was a tool but so were you". This is from the latest trailer of the movie. Also the character with genova cells in their body have cat-like eyes. Cloud's eyes aren't like that so it indicates that he was cloned before Sephiroth was experimented on with jenova. Also if you see Cloud, Sephiroth,Kadaj and the other two have exactly the same face just different hair dues. At least that's the way i understood the storyline which i played it a long time ago. i replayed it a year ago too but i kind of skimmed through the reading. I left it in disk 2 so i'm still not done, i've been trying to beat my other games. Anyways correct me if i'm wrong about the storyline it's been so long.
again...no, cloud wasnt sephiroth clone...sephiroth playied with his mind to make him believe that...but no...cloud is an individual that wanted to become a great warrior...just like sephiroth.
in order to do that he joined a special corpse and submitted himself to many experiments to make super soldiers...by implanting jenova cells in his body to make him stronger....
in ff7ac jenova cells interfers wit the life stream,spreading the illness all over the world.
honestly,i loved ff7 and i have understood every detail of its complex plot...

[Z]

hehe, looks like we can’t have any FF discussion withous going through all previous games.

You're forgetting about the Dragon Quest/Warrior series, it is one of SE's top of the line RPGs, if not the best. :D

An RPG I want to see resurrected is Valkyrie's Profile and Vagrant Story, two RPGs that were very unique. I'm pretty sure a Parasite Eve 3 is going to come out eventually.

True, but we were talking about Square and their FF series. It appears that DQ is still deep in our thought that it is an Enix game. We keep forgetting that Squareenix is now one entity. Yes DQ is the second biggest RPG franchise, but I still don’t prefer the ‘kiddy’ style they have.

Personally, I say Hell with any remake. I’d rather have a brand new adventure to strech my imagination and play with my emotions that having any deja vou reminiscence. I can understand having a new chapter in a game like Advent Children or the hideous FF10-2, but I certainly do not want to wait for a couple of years just to get a remake of the same old same old only with pretty pictures and then wait another two years to see a new saga.

[rpgamer_2k5]

Z, I agree. We really don't need any remakes. I would rather want sequels of the games (VP and VS) that I mentioned above. Sony really needs to get some RPG titles at launch. I always felt that Arc the Lad and Dark Cloud are great first party RPGs, but Sony really needs to get some more first party RPGs under their belt.

The Xbox 360 will be getting some good RPGs from Miswalker and I don't see any first party RPGs matching the suite.

[blue lion]

Z, i think you didn't play ff7.

[rpgamer_2k5]

Z, i think you didn't play ff7.

Why? Is it because he beleives that FFVIII betters FFVII. I yes, I also like the latter over the former and so do a million more. Do remember that FFVIII sold more units than FFVII.

[Z]

I did play FF7. and make note that FF8 sold nearly 2 million units in the first two days. also, there is a considerable jump in graphical and CG quality between 7 and 8. I loved FF7 in every aspect...untill 8 came along and shattered everything! it was my No.1 RPG till FF10 came along. I still fight with my self which one is the best RPG. to make it simple: FF8 has Edia, FF10 has Auron.

HELL if I can figure out who is better!

FF12 has a lot to live up to. hope it will be another grand RPG in the league of 8 and 10.

[raVen]

Cloud beats Squall
Zidane beats Tifa
Vincent Beats Irvine
Yuffie beats Selphie
Barret beats luguna
Aeries is more memorable the Rinoa
RedXII and Cid beat all other FF8 characters
Sephioroth Kills Edea
Cid Spanks Quistis

If you havent gotten it I dont like ff8 that much... its high sales were largely (mostly... all-ly) do to ff7, its why I bought it. They shouldve kept material

From what I've played it goes like this ff7,ff10,ff6,ff8,ff9. Ive played the others and their good but these are my top 5.

I felt like 8 left the perfect material system for a flawed "draw" system. My biggest problem with 9 was the slow speed of battles and when you couldnt pick when you went into trance mode like in ff7 how you could use your limit whenever you want. ff10 was rpg perfection as well.

[Z]

talking about 'Cid', did you know there is a 'Cid' in every FF game adn all of them have a mechanical involvment? weird huh?

[raVen]

the one thing that stays throughout all ff's i thinks theres a biggs and/or wedge too cant remember

[rpgamer_2k5]

Raven: There is no way in hell FFVIII could sell well if it wasn't amazing. If it was crap, it wouldn't have sold that well, period. Final Fantasy VIII was very well made and had graphics+gameplay on its side. The problem is that many gamers do not like mature games and would rather prefer the more darker FFVII.

[Fats]

the one thing that stays throughout all ff's i thinks theres a biggs and/or wedge too cant remember

Yeah, I think you're right.

[blue lion]

ff8 was only an amazing graphics.

[Fats]

ff8 was only an amazing graphics.

That's not true at all. Many gamers out there, including myself, found it to be as deep and profound as a Final Fantasy game should be.

[Z]

swinging this discussion back to the the thread topic: talk about the tech demo and how next-gen FF games may look like.

personally, I see CG cut scenes to bery drastically fewer from now on. rats! as they are my best feature! but hey, you never now. SE is a bit od a CG freak so hope they still keep it on!
frankly, with such graphics, that may not be as big of a disappointment as we expected. that tech demo graphics looked very close to the top notch- new bench mark- Advent Children! :shock:

I watch it again and again and I still can't believe it!

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/617/617554/final-fantasy-ps3-20050519082736180.jpg

I still can't believe it!

[raVen]

I think with more time sqenix can get the visuals seen in the ff12 cutscenes / advent children to run in real time on ps3

[NakedJohnny]

Accually I think remaking 7 is a good idea, I mean whenever I show or tell my friends about ff7 they say something along the lines of "LOL they dont even have any hands" and dismiss the games gameplay and story.

If the game was remade it would combine ps3's awsome graphics with the awsome story and gameplay, square cant lose.

[raVen]

Raven: There is no way in hell FFVIII could sell well if it wasn't amazing. If it was crap, it wouldn't have sold that well, period. Final Fantasy VIII was very well made and had graphics+gameplay on its side. The problem is that many gamers do not like mature games and would rather prefer the more darker FFVII.

Actaully most sequels do sell off of their prequels *cough* Devil May Cry 2 *cough* im not saying ff8 was great it just wasnt the best (IMO) the main character was such a loner and that never changed even when he went to space (for whatever reason i cant remember) and finally kissed Rinoa you think that would have changed him but he came back with the same attitude the way i remember it he had no character development, cloud was a loner but in the end he was apart of the team and fighting for someone thats one of the elements that made ff7 great.

[Z]

I also have to say that the cloth animation in the teck demo of Arith's dress is simply 'sick!' I could have sworn it was CG :shock:

note: keep it on topic.

[GUNDAMSEED]

Well i'll join the FF topic. I love FF 8 it's my fav FF so far . Don't get me wrong i love FF7 but since 8 chars look more real it was easier to to see them as human, plus the music was great , the story was nice . one of the reason i don't like 9 after 8 . Ff9 was a real let down going back to super deform .

But to tell the truth if they were to remake 7 it was be so much better to see aries getting stab, it will be much more of an impact compare to how we saw her in super deform.

FF 7 tech demo was great i can't wait to see FF13 i hope it's more scfi base like 7 ,8,12. 12 it look to be a good mix of both to tell the truth .



Side note DQ kick FF any day of the year . If DQ 8 sells well in both Europe and USA DQ series will be SE biggest money maker .

[rpgamer_2k5]

"Side note DQ kick FF any day of the year . If DQ 8 sells well in both Europe and USA DQ series will be SE biggest money maker ."

I agree, I find that Dragon Quest is superior in quality to the Final Fantasy series. I believe the best Square game is Xenogears. This is all opinions.

[Goki]

^^ I didnt even finish Xenogears, and someimtes cant make up my mind whetether its the best rpg ive played or ff7. Thas how good xenogears was...

Back on topic, I seriously thougth that the graphics in ff7 for ps1 is what made me like it so much, u know, their deformed hands and faces, I liiked it more that way. Also i had my older brother play the game, he got stcuk and didnt play it anymore, then he saw the advert for it on MTV and saw all the beutiful CG (WE LOVE CG IN OUR HOUSE), so he ran back to play the game, just to see all the CG, I think the CG played a big part in how good the game was, cause u kept wanting more, reason I belive u wanted more was because the graphics of charachters was so bad in game that it was kinda of a relief. With graphics looking so good, on ps3 in this beginning of the stage, I dont think CG is necessary anymore, but everyone will try in game movies like MGS. I really dont belive the experince will be the same, with such good graphics...

[Z]

(WE LOVE CG IN OUR HOUSE)
our cousins!

We DIE for any good CG! Can’t wait for Advent Children. Quality CG is also the reason why we just love FF8. it probably showed the best CG during the PSOne in all aspects like creativity, imagination, beauty, details, etc. I won’t count FF9 since they are deformed even during the CG sequences. I don’t like that art style.

[Goki]

Ah truly we must be cousins^^ :D

Do u like me think the Onimusha3 intro is one of the best CG in a VG?
Advent children.... We've had to wait to long, should have been released earlier....

[rev>thanu]

(WE LOVE CG IN OUR HOUSE)
our cousins!

We DIE for any good CG! Can’t wait for Advent Children. Quality CG is also the reason why we just love FF8. it probably showed the best CG during the PSOne in all aspects like creativity, imagination, beauty, details, etc. I won’t count FF9 since they are deformed even during the CG sequences. I don’t like that art style.

actually i personally prefer FF9 CG and the game as a whole compared to FF8. FF9 CG had more creativity than FF8 IMO and truely represent what a Fantasy world should be or look like. I don't like the Art style of the characters too much but is better than alot of games out there. My favorite character is VIVI at least from that final fantasy in particular. Also note FF9 has more and longer CG cutscenes than 8.

Z i also love CG and it's one of the things that influence me into buying a video game. Also i don't think that with this following generation CG will be replaced. yeah the in game cutscenes will come closer to actual CG but that still doesn't in anyway replace full CG scenes. i believe this following generation CG will be easier to make than before as technology advances. So i think we will see more CG in games and more animated CG films too. Until i don't see CG with 10 times the level of complexity of golem i will not be satisfied.

It would be kind of crazy if in the future you can create character's pores and skin imprefections using polygons. :shock:
Also in the videogame industry the as the battle between Sony and microsoft heats up there will be more competition. CG is part of the game's presentation. Anyways that's what i think but who knows you might be rigth about developers dropping CG all together.

[Z]

Do u like me think the Onimusha3 intro is one of the best CG in a VG?


HELL yeah! that CG is a bench manrk for years to come. the thing is, FF does it alot. Onimusha 3 only has that CG. it doesn't even have an ending one. that is one of the reasons Onimusha 2 is better in my opinion; it has a lot of great CG scenes.
for the record, Onimusha 3's opening CG took time and money to complete equivilant to a whole seperate game. it took them more than a year and cost more than $2M! I think Capcom was smoking something when they went all the way with it. to note, it was ROBOT that actually made it. it is a CG company- the same one that made the first games CGs (the second game was done by a deferent team).

who knows you might be rigth about developers dropping CG all together.

no, I don't think CGs are done fore all together, what I do expect is the amount of CG scenes in games to be generally less than what we have today. and about movie CGs, it is funny, we might actually see whole movies, or shorts made entirely by game engines. in-game isn't as good as CG but it is faster, cheaper and mush simpler to do. they also look very good next-gen, so who knows.

[Fazares]

Do u like me think the Onimusha3 intro is one of the best CG in a VG?


HELL yeah! that CG is a bench manrk for years to come. the thing is, FF does it alot. Onimusha 3 only has that CG. it doesn't even have an ending one. that is one of the reasons Onimusha 2 is better in my opinion; it has a lot of great CG scenes.
for the record, Onimusha 3's opening CG took time and money to complete equivilant to a whole seperate game. it took them more than a year and cost more than $2M! I think Capcom was smoking something when they went all the way with it. to note, it was ROBOT that actually made it. it is a CG company- the same one that made the first games CGs (the second game was done by a deferent team).
who knows you might be rigth about developers dropping CG all together.

no, I don't think CGs are done fore all together, what I do expect is the amount of CG scenes in games to be generally less than what we have today. and about movie CGs, it is funny, we might actually see whole movies, or shorts made entirely by game engines. in-game isn't as good as CG but it is faster, cheaper and mush simpler to do. they also look very good next-gen, so who knows.
really...seeing the games demos...i would be happy with just in game gfx cutscenes...

[LaLiLuLeLo]

It'd be great if they did a ps3 remake of FF7. I was inspired to play the psone game the other day and it's so much fun, but with the PS3's power they could tell the story so much more immersively and effectively- fully 3d environments and articulated/detailed character animations, voices, cinematic direction. New gameplay elements, it'd be great. With that said, I can't wait for final fantasy 13. And that said, square-enix needs to stop making the main protagonists androgenous weenies. I liked Tidus, he wasn't sissy he was just a nice happy guy. Not his fault he's good lookin. I'll be buying 12 when it comes out, but Christ, Vaan looks like a bitch. I could beat him up. Barehanded. Square's male characters are looking more and more like the girl characters! And for no good reason! If he came up to me and said, "I have to save the world from utter destruction," I'd just laugh at him.

[Z]

let me put it this way; you have only one choice, would you rather have an FF7 remake, or a new FF7 chapter (like FF7-2)?

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Oh, well FF7-2 fo' sho'. But I figured that's what advent children is. Despite it only being 70 minutes long and us not being able to play it.

[cogboy]

i think its grown a fair bit longer now. last i heard was 90 mins and that was ages ago.

[Z]

that is the point: gamers rather by a new game than a remake. I don’t see the point on putting that much effort in making something you made 2 generations ago look prettier. Why not add a new title under your belt and explore new territories and chances? I think SE agrees with me on that point.

[raVen]

Advent is up to 100 hundred minutes and by the way the man in the wheel chair is: *Spoiler Alert* Rufus <<< Highlight

Lol you can still read it.. I tried

Atleast thats what I think looking at this picture.
http://www.the-magicbox.com/0505/Ff7ac3.jpg

[rev>thanu]

well Z i don't know why you locked the new topic i just posted beacuse it has to do with FF7 but it also refers to another final fantasy all together which has nothing to do with the FF7 tech demo. anyway i will repost it here. :?

FFX producer developing PS3 Final Fantasy?

Yoshinori Kitase hints a Final Fantasy title for Sony's next-generation console is in the works, won't confirm if it’s FFXIII.
During E3 last month, Square Enix president Youichi Wata showed off a technical demonstration of how Final Fantasy VII would look if it were remade for the PlayStation 3. He then made a disclaimer that a new version of the game isn't actually being developed for the console, but assured the audience at the presentation that another Final Fantasy title will be coming to the PlayStation 3.


In the latest issue of Dengeki PlayStation, the magazine featured an interview with Final Fantasy X producer Yoshinori Kitase, who is currently working on PlayStation 2's Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII. One of the questions raised in the interview was whether the PlayStation 3 game will be Final Fantasy XIII. As expected, Kitase declined to give an answer, saying "I can only officially state that we are making a Final Fantasy for the PS3."

However, he also suggested that he is involved as a core staff in the game’s development, stating, "As a hint, one thing I can say is that the FFVII technical PS3 demo was supervised by me, and created by Toriyama and his team staff. I'll leave it to you, but you can imagine that development [of the PS3 FF] is happening via a similar process." Motomu Toriyama was one of the directors that worked with Kitase on Final Fantasy X, and the main director for Final Fantasy X-2.

Kitase also revealed the Final Fantasy VII technical PS3 demo was actually a rush job, created in just a month and a half. “We created right before E3. I didn’t think we could do it at first, but I called Sugimoto (Koji Sugimoto, FFX’s main programmer), and we somehow made it. I believe that if we had more time, we could have made it in a higher quality. In that sense, that demo didn’t really take much advantage of the PS3’s hardware specs. But still, we were able to make something that looked that good.”

When asked if there were any more Final Fantasy VII spin-offs planned in the future, Kitase laughed, commenting, “Well, we’ll have to see. There are still characters that might be alive [From the original FFVII]”.

By Staff -- GameSpot
POSTED: 06/08/05 11:40 AM PST

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/06/08/news_6127146.html

RE Posted
Imagine this was in less than 2 months imagine when they do take their time. Notice how it also clearly states that the demo didn't take advantage of the PS3's hardware specs.

I believe that with more time they might reach FFX like CGI visuals (not technical complexity) or even killzone 2 level of detail. Anyway you may take my words with a grain of salt but if that techdemo was already looking good in just 2 1/2months it should look 10 times better with more time.

[Fazares]

well Z i don't know why you locked the new topic i just posted beacuse it has to do with FF7 but it also refers to another final fantasy all together which has nothing to do with the FF7 tech demo. anyway i will repost it here. :?

FFX producer developing PS3 Final Fantasy?

Yoshinori Kitase hints a Final Fantasy title for Sony's next-generation console is in the works, won't confirm if it’s FFXIII.
During E3 last month, Square Enix president Youichi Wata showed off a technical demonstration of how Final Fantasy VII would look if it were remade for the PlayStation 3. He then made a disclaimer that a new version of the game isn't actually being developed for the console, but assured the audience at the presentation that another Final Fantasy title will be coming to the PlayStation 3.


In the latest issue of Dengeki PlayStation, the magazine featured an interview with Final Fantasy X producer Yoshinori Kitase, who is currently working on PlayStation 2's Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII. One of the questions raised in the interview was whether the PlayStation 3 game will be Final Fantasy XIII. As expected, Kitase declined to give an answer, saying "I can only officially state that we are making a Final Fantasy for the PS3."

However, he also suggested that he is involved as a core staff in the game’s development, stating, "As a hint, one thing I can say is that the FFVII technical PS3 demo was supervised by me, and created by Toriyama and his team staff. I'll leave it to you, but you can imagine that development [of the PS3 FF] is happening via a similar process." Motomu Toriyama was one of the directors that worked with Kitase on Final Fantasy X, and the main director for Final Fantasy X-2.

Kitase also revealed the Final Fantasy VII technical PS3 demo was actually a rush job, created in just a month and a half. “We created right before E3. I didn’t think we could do it at first, but I called Sugimoto (Koji Sugimoto, FFX’s main programmer), and we somehow made it. I believe that if we had more time, we could have made it in a higher quality. In that sense, that demo didn’t really take much advantage of the PS3’s hardware specs. But still, we were able to make something that looked that good.”

When asked if there were any more Final Fantasy VII spin-offs planned in the future, Kitase laughed, commenting, “Well, we’ll have to see. There are still characters that might be alive [From the original FFVII]”.

By Staff -- GameSpot
POSTED: 06/08/05 11:40 AM PST

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/06/08/news_6127146.html

RE Posted
Imagine this was in less than 2 months imagine when they do take their time. Notice how it also clearly states that the demo didn't take advantage of the PS3's hardware specs.

I believe that with more time they might reach FFX like CGI visuals (not technical complexity) or even killzone 2 level of detail. Anyway you may take my words with a grain of salt but if that techdemo was already looking good in just 2 1/2months it should look 10 times better with more time.
the ff7 demo already looked ffx cg quality,characters wise....
with more time we could be even more close to the ff7ac cg movie...visually

[Brandon]

the ff7 demo already looked ffx cg quality
No it didn't. Really, it didn't. I have every fmv sequence from that game on my PC, and no...it didn't. The creators of that tech demo also said it was a month and a half rush job (they created it very soon before E3), and that the demo isn't anywhere near what they can achieve with a Final Fantasy game. So there's much to look forward to.

[Jasonps3]

It's close, but not quite. It's more like an advance FFVIII cg look to it with more motion. However, if they can produce FFX CG Graphics in Realtime, that will be quite an accomplishment.

[Z]

I reiterate from the in-game graphics thread:
the Final Fantasy VII technical PS3 demo was actually a rush job, created in just a month and a half…. I believe that if we had more time, we could have made it in a higher quality. In that sense, that demo didn't really take much advantage of the PS3's hardware specs. But still, we were able to make something that looked that good.
That is one of the amazing announcements yet! That demo is very close to the new benchmark of CG animation Advent Children. Go a couple of pages back [from original thread] and look at the side by side comparison. So in a mere 1.5 months only they can achieve such high graphics?! This coincides with Epics There months for their demo. It also showes that PS3 is in fact that much easier to work on than PS2- that explains the unexpected number of game demos shown. And finally, not scratching the surface? By that we can very well expect exact graphics of the highest caliber. Something indistinguishable from Advent Children- as if there is much difference now!

Also, this may note to Jin’s close up face is indeed done in real time.

Very exciting. Very exciting in deed.
:shock:

[Brandon]

That demo is very close to the new benchmark of CG animation Advent Children. Go a couple of pages back and look at the side by side comparison.
They look a little similar side-by-side in picture form, but in motion they're worlds apart.

So in a mere 1.5 months only they can achieve such high graphics?!
Yeah, it is really amazing.

Something indistinguishable from Advent Children- as if there is much difference now!
There is a very large difference, unless your eyesight is failing you these days. The demo looked great, but you need to be realistic.

http://www.photodump.com/direct/EvX/ffviiac0016pc.jpg

http://www.photodump.com/direct/EvX/ffviiac0021na.jpg

http://www.photodump.com/direct/EvX/ffviiac0036qv.jpg

http://www.photodump.com/direct/EvX/ffviiac0042sz.jpg

[Jasonps3]

I reiterate from the in-game graphics thread:
the Final Fantasy VII technical PS3 demo was actually a rush job, created in just a month and a half…. I believe that if we had more time, we could have made it in a higher quality. In that sense, that demo didn't really take much advantage of the PS3's hardware specs. But still, we were able to make something that looked that good.
That is one of the amazing announcements yet! That demo is very close to the new benchmark of CG animation Advent Children. Go a couple of pages back [from original thread] and look at the side by side comparison. So in a mere 1.5 months only they can achieve such high graphics?! This coincides with Epics There months for their demo. It also showes that PS3 is in fact that much easier to work on than PS2- that explains the unexpected number of game demos shown. And finally, not scratching the surface? By that we can very well expect exact graphics of the highest caliber. Something indistinguishable from Advent Children- as if there is much difference now!

Also, this may note to Jin’s close up face is indeed done in real time.

Very exciting. Very exciting in deed.
:shock:

Excactly,

Come of think of it, The tech demo actually reminds me of FFX-2 CG in realtime. If that demo came from two regular high PC Graphics cards,
just imagine how the RSX can do with all of its functions.

[Brandon]

You guys must be living in a parallel dimension or something.

[Jasonps3]

Oh, I was wondering where I was :lol: .

[FLCL]

wornderfull FF news, now i can a dream of an even BETTER LOOKING Final Fanatasy for PS3

IGN also posted some final fantasy news, could these guys get any more biased!!!!

June 8, 2005 - In an interview published in the latest issue of Famitsu, Final Fantasy XI producer Hiromichi Tanaka makes mention of some of the projects on which his staff is currently working, including new Final Fantasy XI properties and a brand new next generation massively multiplayer Online RPG.

Tanaka does not commit to the identity of the next generation title, stating that it may be a successor to FFXI, or it may be a completely separate property. He does admit that the mysterious demo clip shown at Microsoft's Xbox 360 E3 press conference was an early look at the game, which is currently in the "research" stage of development.

As for the title's platform, Tanaka is again a bit too shy to talk. He doesn't specifically state that the game is coming to the Xbox 360.

He does, however, state that the PlayStation 3 will probably need a hard disk in order to see Final Fantasy XI-style games, stating he was surprised to hear that Sony is considering not including a hard disk with the system. Character growth still requires a hard disk, explains Tanaka, and this will be the case unless everyone has a fiber optic internet connection (and even if that were the case, server charges associated with storing and transfering gigabytes worth of data would make monthly user fees rise to ten times their current level).

Regarding the Xbox 360 version of Final Fantasy XI, Tanaka reveals that the title will be close to the Windows version of the game in terms of quality, which means it will be far superior to the PS2 version. The team is still working on the title, but they're hoping to improve viewing distance many times beyond that of PC version. Tanaka feels that once people have played the game in high definition wide screen format, they won't be able to go back.

As mentioned previously here at IGN Xbox, Square Enix will hold a beta test for Final Fantasy XI at the Xbox 360's launch later this year (no word yet on if this beta test will be Japan-only or if it will also take place in America). The beta test will make use of a special server separate from the other versions of the game. The purpose of the beta test, Tanaka reveals, is to see how Xbox Live handles connecting to Play Online, which is something that's being done for the first time with Microsoft's closed Online system.

There's more in store for Final Fantasy XI following the release of the Xbox 360 version. In addition to periodic updates for all versions of the game, the FFXI team is currently working a full-fledged expansion pack that should extend the life of the product.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/623/623562p1.html

they neglect Yoshinori Kitase's romising comments, only OH! OH! Final Fantasy needs the hardrive and then they go on yapping about the x360, i wonder is it ps3.ign.com or 360.beats.ps3.ign.com! :roll:

[Brandon]

I really don't like Final Fantasy being an online game. The game just doesn't feel right. I'd rather have the series stay old school just like it's always been.

[FLCL]

I really don't like Final Fantasy being an online game. The game just doesn't feel right. I'd rather have the series stay old school just like it's always been.

same here, although i know many people that are so into FFXI, oh well at least we're having both

by the way! does EveryQuest requires a hard disk for the PS2?

[Z]

You guys must be living in a parallel dimension or something.

if all of us seem to be living in another world from you, doesn't that really mean 'you' are the one living in a different place than the rest of us? :wink:

P.S. I thought you were the one that always advises not to hotlink and be careful when linking from Imageshack. so what is with the dead links?

[Brandon]

if all of us seem to be living in another world from you, doesn't that really mean 'you' are the one living in a different place than the rest of us? :wink:
No...it just means you're all insane. ;)

P.S. I thought you were the one that always advises not to hotlink and be careful when linking from Imageshack. so what is with the dead links?
I was testing it out to see if it was as horribly bad as I thought...and my beliefs have been confirmed (there is nothing useful about ImageShack, unless you're a huge fan of thumbnails or something). Can you see the images now?

[Z]

yes, they show now.

now what is the point of these screens? what you should do is post pics from the demo and the movie that show the same characters and in a position close to each other.

again, but in mind this is a 1.5 months of work an an extremely early toolkit.

hey, 'we' might be bat-blined, bet we are extremely happy bat-blinds! 8)

[Brandon]

what you should do is post pics from the demo and the movie that show the same characters and in a position close to each other.
I'd rather just watch the high definition trailer of Advent Children and then realize how much the FFVII tech demo pales in comparison. Don't get me wrong though, the tech demo makes my jaw drop to the floor every time I watch it, and this was a rushed project. ;) I can only imagine what a polished FF game will look like.

hey, 'we' might be bat-blined, bet we are extremely happy bat-blinds!
I'm very excited about all of this too...but I think everyone is getting a little ahead of themselves.

[FLCL]

awesome pics! can't wait for the film

surely the demo isn't as good as the film, especially the background
but cloud's facial and hair details are close enough

also remember the film must have like hundred layers of post compositing

[Brandon]

surely the demo isn't as good as the film, especially the background
but cloud's facial and hair details are close enough
I was very impressed by Cloud's hair when it was waving about in the demo. I'm so used to seeing clumped together hair that looks like it was styled with cement (like Tidus' hair in Final Fantasy X). It looks so much more natural now.

[Fazares]

brandon...the cloud character is very close to his advent children equivalent and on par with ff10 tidus model....ah i forgot...you come from the genius dimension where everybody has a wireframe sight... :lol:

[Brandon]

brandon...the cloud character is very close to his advent children equivalent and on par with ff10 tidus model....ah i forgot...you come from the genius dimension where everybody has a wireframe sight... :lol:
Right. Or maybe you're setting your expectations so high that it's blinding you from seeing what's actually going on visually. You can get as excited as you want over the PS3 graphics. ;) But I'm not seeing what you're seeing.

[Fazares]

brandon...the cloud character is very close to his advent children equivalent and on par with ff10 tidus model....ah i forgot...you come from the genius dimension where everybody has a wireframe sight... :lol:
Right. Or maybe you're setting your expectations so high that it's blinding you from seeing what's actually going on visually. You can get as excited as you want over the PS3 graphics. ;) But I'm not seeing what you're seeing.
maybe cuz you have wireframe sight... :wink:

[Brandon]

brandon...the cloud character is very close to his advent children equivalent and on par with ff10 tidus model....ah i forgot...you come from the genius dimension where everybody has a wireframe sight... :lol:
Right. Or maybe you're setting your expectations so high that it's blinding you from seeing what's actually going on visually. You can get as excited as you want over the PS3 graphics. ;) But I'm not seeing what you're seeing.
maybe cuz you have wireframe sight... :wink:
Yes...I have magical wireframe sight that makes me see things that others don't.

[Fazares]

brandon...the cloud character is very close to his advent children equivalent and on par with ff10 tidus model....ah i forgot...you come from the genius dimension where everybody has a wireframe sight... :lol:
Right. Or maybe you're setting your expectations so high that it's blinding you from seeing what's actually going on visually. You can get as excited as you want over the PS3 graphics. ;) But I'm not seeing what you're seeing.
maybe cuz you have wireframe sight... :wink:
Yes...I have magical wireframe sight that makes me see things that others don't.
cuz you come from another dimension...right... :?:

[rev>thanu]

OK lets compare then:
We all agree that all tech demos are real and that are done to spec so once the console and final dev kits are available, these tech demos should be running smooth on PS3.

This is 5 months or so worth of work:

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/616/616298/killzone-next-gen-20050518031918692.jpg

This 1 month and 1/2 worth of work:
http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/617/617554/final-fantasy-ps3-20050519082736180.jpg

This 4 years worth of work and counting:
http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/614/614520/final-fantasy-vii-advent-children-20050516013448003.jpg

This is about 2 years 1/2 worth of work (Mostlikely more):
http://ps2media.ign.com/media/previews/image/ffx/finalfantasyx_19.jpg


Now killzone looks that good and it's five months worth of development time and already it sports visuals that match advent children. Imagine what Square Enix could have achieved with the same amount of time. if in 1 month and 1/2 they were able to create midgard's top level imagine with 5 months or even 4 years worth of development effort just as they have input towards the movie. I think that the real Final Fantasy for PS3 will sport details that match and rival killzone's but with the FF artstyle and character designs. So i do expect that a full fledge FF will come close to sporting advent children visuals.

epic had the almost the same amount of time to make a tech demo but the reason their techdemo looks impressive it's because it's built of an already existing engine. The only thing was to make sure the code transferred efficiently to the PS3.

[Fazares]

rev...your post is good...just what sony and programmers want skepticals to understand...of course thats crazy how they made a cloud model so close to his ac equivalent in just 1,5 months...

[joe]

http://www.squareamp.com/features/gallery/Group/FF7Gang.jpg

... teh FF7 remake.

[cpiasminc]

of course thats crazy how they made a cloud model so close to his ac equivalent in just 1,5 months...
Why is that crazy? They have the cloud model from AC itself... it can have the polycount reduced and have the hair modeled into the SoftImage style, and the whole animation sequence is the same one from the original game with some touch-ups. The thing that remains is having a little something to push polygons, and since PS3 uses a pretty traditional GPU, it can't be that hard, especially under the assumption that there IS an engine in development. Did you notice the lack of facial animation? Suggests that there are a number of features not ready in their engine -- not a bad thing, just means it's that much easier and faster to push more polygons. It also means the faces (which typically has the highest density of polys) can be made up of fewer renderpackets because there won't be any facial animation keys.

[Z]

Why is that crazy?
It is crazy because we thought this is a lot of work on both devs and PS3 to do, only to find out it is a rushed job and it ‘doesn’t even scratch the surface”. All that and it is still damn close to the new benchmark of CG animation for years to come, the same one that they have been working on for years: AC.

P.S. in the cosplay pic, why is Barret dressed as a sailor? He wore more of a mechanic/mercenary type of clothes.

[The_One]

I really don't like Final Fantasy being an online game. The game just doesn't feel right. I'd rather have the series stay old school just like it's always been.

same here, although i know many people that are so into FFXI, oh well at least we're having both

by the way! does EveryQuest requires a hard disk for the PS2? No. I believe it does require quite a bit of space on your memory card to store a big patch/update.

@joe: Nice remake :lol:. Hahaha, I seriously wonder how they'd act if they were in a real game :lol:.

[Brandon]

@ joe: Was that last year's anime convention in Anaheim? If so, I think I remember seeing that guy...and his hair...that isn't a wig. He's using a LOT of stuff in his hair. There were 2 other girls that went as Rikku and Yuna (FF X-2) and I must say...they were beautiful. ;) I'm going to the next convention this year in July (well...maybe). It should be awesome. Maybe they'll have a Guilty Gear tournament this time. I'll take pictures if I get around to it...and maybe post them here.

[Fazares]

@ joe: Was that last year's anime convention in Anaheim? If so, I think I remember seeing that guy...and his hair...that isn't a wig. He's using a LOT of stuff in his hair. There were 2 other girls that went as Rikku and Yuna (FF X-2) and I must say...they were beautiful. ;) I'm going to the next convention this year in July (well...maybe). It should be awesome. Maybe they'll have a Guilty Gear tournament this time. I'll take pictures if I get around to it...and maybe post them here.
hey,what the hell did the cloud guy do with his hairs... :?:
and...me... that tought paul hair style was impossible :x wtf :lol:

[rev>thanu]

lol i don't know, if i try to go dressed up to one of those conventions i would try to get the costume right at the very least lol. i think out of that pic Aerith and Cid look the closest to their CG counter part lol physically and costume wise.

[Illmatic]

There's one reason i think SE will eventually do a remake of FFVII for the PS3, and the reason is that it would boost the sales of all the FF spin-offs in production including FFVII the remake itself.
The people who haven't played the game but see the FFVII movie and really enjoy it are obviously going to want to experience more of the story, and i don't think they'll want to go back to a PS1 game.
And i'd say most people that have got or played the PS1 game would fork out for an extremely updated version with voice overs, i know i would 8)

[Z]

The people who haven't played the game but see the FFVII movie and really enjoy it are obviously going to want to experience more of the story, and i don't think they'll want to go back to a PS1 game
You know something, SE and Japan isn’t Hollywood. If it was, we would see cartoons, comics, movies, spin offs, etc. made off the upcoming AC movie. I was surprised they didn’t make a game for the Spirits Within. All that work and no milking? Ninty must be pulling their hair over this one since the specialize in milking.

Having said that, I would REALLY love anything made for the movie like a PS3 game (another FF7 side game perhaps?). but I fear if anything was in the works, we would have heard about it. Let us wait 3 months for the movie and enjoy it first.

[Viper]

Must you knock Nintendo in every post?

If you wan to talk milking, then look no further than Sony.

Jak 4
Ratchet 4
Sly 3

All in one generation.

3rd parties?
Capcom has made 55 Megaman titles, 30+ Street fighter titles.
Final Fantasy how many?

We play in an industry that recycles characters, themes and brands and it's not limited to just Nintendo.

[imported_Amadeus]

We play in an industry that recycles characters, themes and brands and it's not limited to just Nintendo.


And that's the shameful part about it. We can all do with a little less of that, can't we?


This next (and future) generation is giving developers massive potential to create not just first person shooters set in a dark, futuristic cyber-world inhabited by zombies/bats/whatever, or yet another first person shooter set in *Popular War*, but potential to create new characters, new concepts, and new genres.

I'm very hopeful that we see something fresh soon.

[raVen]

3rd parties?
Capcom has made 55 Megaman titles, 30+ Street fighter titles.
Final Fantasy how many?

These are spread out amongst consoles

Must you knock Nintendo in every post?

If you wan to talk milking, then look no further than Sony.

Jak 4
Ratchet 4
Sly 3


Mario Power Tennis, Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour, Mario Baseball, Mario Sunshine, Mario party 5-7, Mario Kart DD, Super Mario Strikers, Dance Dance Revolution Mario Mix, and Paper Mario: The thousand year door

Not to mention:
Wario World, Super Smash bro's Melee, Luigi's Mansion, Nba Street V3

So you say sony is milking... over 3 franchises they have 11 titles with nintendos 1 franchise the have 11 too... not to mention the spin offs/cameos with mario

[Viper]

I'm merely pointing out that Nintendo isn't the only one. I never said they didn't.

[raVen]

I'm merely pointing out that Nintendo isn't the only one. I never said they didn't.

In that case I agree completely

[The_One]

In any case, let us get back on topic.
The people who haven't played the game but see the FFVII movie and really enjoy it are obviously going to want to experience more of the story, and i don't think they'll want to go back to a PS1 game. Interesting theory... Now, if that was true, I'd rather have SE remake FF8 than 7 :P.

[Lumine]

In any case, let us get back on topic.
The people who haven't played the game but see the FFVII movie and really enjoy it are obviously going to want to experience more of the story, and i don't think they'll want to go back to a PS1 game. Interesting theory... Now, if that was true, I'd rather have SE remake FF8 than 7 :P.

I hope you don't mean to say that you wish more people would play FF8... that's just a game that needs to be buried next to fluffy the pet you had a funeral for out in the back yard.

[rpgamer_2k5]

The One: I agree, an FF8 remake would be much better. 8)

[Metal Sphere]

FFVIII merely rode on the coattails of FFVII's success, and if had been the ninth installment in the series, it would've been received with the lackluster interest that IX got. FFVIII was definitely nothing special, as the characters were boring compared to FFVII's, the battle system tried too hard to be innovative to the point of confusion, and the story was the very definition of angst. That's just my take on it though, so don't be offended.

SE would be wise to remake FFVII for the PS3, and unwise to do the same to FFVIII, a game with far less noteriety and potential for being a system seller.

[LiquidEagle]

Must you knock Nintendo in every post?

If you wan to talk milking, then look no further than Sony.

Jak 4
Ratchet 4
Sly 3

All in one generation.

3rd parties?
Capcom has made 55 Megaman titles, 30+ Street fighter titles.
Final Fantasy how many?

We play in an industry that recycles characters, themes and brands and it's not limited to just Nintendo.

Whoa whoa whoa there... I wouldn't be so hasty to call it milking. I think it's worth noting that all three of those series' are on the forefront of platformers and amazing technology, and all three have a ton of variation. Especially Ratchet, as I have a huge amount of respect for Insomniac.

Anyways, I don't accuse Nintendo of milking... they have a character (Mario) that works and is familiar, and he's in good games (aside from Mario Party :lol: ). If we're gonna compare this to movies, you couldn't really compare it to straight-up movie series'. Characters in movies are played by actors, whereas videogame characters are just that -- characters. It would be more fair to see how many movies George Clooney is in where he plays the exact same role as his last film. I think the number of occurances jumps way up there, and also I hope you don't feel so bad about Mario's numerous appearances. Think of Mario as more like a successful actor who gets a lot of gigs :wink:

[GUNDAMSEED]

FFVIII merely rode on the coattails of FFVII's success, and if had been the ninth installment in the series, it would've been received with the lackluster interest that IX got. FFVIII was definitely nothing special, as the characters were boring compared to FFVII's, the battle system tried too hard to be innovative to the point of confusion, and the story was the very definition of angst. That's just my take on it though, so don't be offended.

SE would be wise to remake FFVII for the PS3, and unwise to do the same to FFVIII, a game with far less noteriety and potential for being a system seller.

FF8 rode of the sucess of FF7 you got to be kidding . FF8 was a great game it was one first ps1 rpg to go for full human look . Also the music was great and found the battle system to be fun you could do so much things with your men in FF8. Also FF7 chars were boring compare to 8 for me hell 2 chars in FF7 you did not even need to get cause they add nothing to the story they were not even in the CG how funny is that . I like FF 7 but don't go saying FF 8 got sales because of it .

FF9 got less sales cause they went back to super deform also because of hype of the new systems. Even square are saying some of the games they have that are coming out will sell less because of the new systems FF12 being one of them .

Should not be going off topic don't want this to become a FF vs thread.

[rev>thanu]

FFVIII merely rode on the coattails of FFVII's success, and if had been the ninth installment in the series, it would've been received with the lackluster interest that IX got. FFVIII was definitely nothing special, as the characters were boring compared to FFVII's, the battle system tried too hard to be innovative to the point of confusion, and the story was the very definition of angst. That's just my take on it though, so don't be offended.

SE would be wise to remake FFVII for the PS3, and unwise to do the same to FFVIII, a game with far less noteriety and potential for being a system seller.

personally if Square Enix isn't willing to make FF7 again for Ps3 and is willing to make FF8 or 9 i would much rather see a remake of FF9. It felt a whole lot more like a fantasy game than FF8.

but if FF7 is redone, i would much rather see it as a 40 hour action adventure game some what like kingdom Hearts in the sence of the RPG elements, but also something as cool as Ninja Gaiden was in the gameplay mechanics department. The worlds open to explore and 10 times bigger than in Jak 3 but also full of rich quality graphics that compete with the techdemo shown.

I can already imagine how the motorcycle mini game and how that scene would translate into an Action adventure RPG and on PS3. it would also be great if the worlds were so huge that you need cloud's bike at first to actually go and explore it. Then you get the truck, the sub and the air craft. I don't know but if they do a good job translatting the game into action adventure it would make it the best FF to date. image attacking enemies with clous out of this world sword. :shock:

[rpgamer_2k5]

If they make a FFV remake then it obviously will not have a different battle system. Instead the world will actually be alot more bigger and there would no over-'basic' overworld. It would be more like DQ8 in which you can Towns are integrated with the overworld.

[stanDarsh]

While I believe FFVII would be awesome as a remake, I'd personally like to see a remake done of Chrono Trigger first, and also some new Chrono sequels to boot.

[Viper]

While I believe FFVII would be awesome as a remake, I'd personally like to see a remake done of Chrono Trigger first, and also some new Chrono sequels to boot.I whole-heartedly second that notion. Chrono Trigger is in my top 3 all time favorites and to see it again, given the same love as the original, on one of the upcoming consoles, or all 3, would make my year.

[Z]

I don’t think we’ll ever see an FF7 remake. If we were, we would have a long time ago. It’s been 10 years and counting since it came out. And if you think about it, FF7 generated so much hype that it is virtually impossible to make a satisfying game based on it (remake or sequel). I read an interview way back about this. SE said that it is extremely hard to make a game holding the name of the much over hyped FF7. if it was ‘the perfect’ games, people will still get disappointed.

I say if they are going to spend time, effort and money on a game, I want a brand new adventure with brand new characters and worlds. If you want to play the game again, then use your old copy. We always need to move on, invent and create. With the remakes and side games, does anyone really want to wait 7 years for a brand new FF game? I sure don’t. FF7 was fun. Ok, next.

[Fazares]

I don’t think we’ll ever see an FF7 remake. If we were, we would have a long time ago. It’s been 10 years and counting since it came out. And if you think about it, FF7 generated so much hype that it is virtually impossible to make a satisfying game based on it (remake or sequel). I read an interview way back about this. SE said that it is extremely hard to make a game holding the name of the much over hyped FF7. if it was ‘the perfect’ games, people will still get disappointed.

I say if they are going to spend time, effort and money on a game, I want a brand new adventure with brand new characters and worlds. If you want to play the game again, then use your old copy. We always need to move on, invent and create. With the remakes and side games, does anyone really want to wait 7 years for a brand new FF game? I sure don’t. FF7 was fun. Ok, next.
at least i want a game as innovative as ff7...a braktrough in the rpg brand...at least...

[Z]

yes. what we really want is to have a great 'experience' as the one FF7 gave us.
but not to worry. with the jaw-dropping PS3 show, I KNOW we won't get disappointed. :twisted:

[GUNDAMSEED]

Also since it seem that FFAC special edtion dvd is coming with FF7 game for ps1 . i don't see a remake for a long while who knows maybe PS4 when sony say no more ps1 games can play on it.

But as people have said i much rather a whole new FF game ,also a new chrono game would be very very welcome. the last on for ps1 suck to me .

[Illmatic]

I guess this Square game has been forgotten, but i'd like to see a sequal to 'Vagrant Story'. I loved it, never got to finish it though http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/Stillmaitik/dry.gif


I didn't know they're releasing a FFVII:AC special edition with FFVII packaged , is this true???
If so then this will work out quite well for me :P
My copy is long gone.

[Z]

check the main page!

[Illmatic]

Cheers Z.

I also just read the Gamespot article.

They had a price for the SE

A limited-edition DVD will also be available for a hefty 29,500 yen ($275)

:? , they gotta be kidding.

97 minutes running time 8)

[GUNDAMSEED]

Cheers Z.

I also just read the Gamespot article.

They had a price for the SE

A limited-edition DVD will also be available for a hefty 29,500 yen ($275)

:? , they gotta be kidding.

97 minutes running time 8)

The price is okay that is want you normal pay for something like that over there . i take it you don't buy R2 dvds , buying dear S dvds 37 usa bucks for 50mins. So for FFAC SE that's not bad since u get FFVII: Advent Children DVD; Cloud and Fenrir (motorcycle) action figure set; scenario scripts, FFVII cap and t-shirt; limited edition keyring with serial number; and a copy of Final Fantasy VII for PSone.

[Illmatic]

It's still alot of money, especially for me living in NZ considering that's $25 more than a US PSP value pack (us$250), which converts to nz$350 but they're selling the PSP here for nz$470 :? , so for us over here the Limited Edition FFVII:AC dvd would cost atleast nz$530. :shock:

[bRoNx]

Off topic:

...US PSP value pack (us$250), which converts to nz$350 but they're selling the PSP here for nz$470 :? ...

Bro, FYI, Parallel Imported (http://www.parallelimported.co.nz/search.php?main_category=Game%20Console&mid=1&m2id =5) sell the PSP for $349 - but the valuepack is still $449...at least you get the choice of buying it by itself... 8)

[Illmatic]

Off topic:

...US PSP value pack (us$250), which converts to nz$350 but they're selling the PSP here for nz$470 :? ...

Bro, FYI, Parallel Imported (http://www.parallelimported.co.nz/search.php?main_category=Game%20Console&mid=1&m2id =5) sell the PSP for $349 - but the valuepack is still $449...at least you get the choice of buying it by itself... 8)



Yeah i got mine imported for nz$425 :D , but nah, i was talking about the actual retail price (http://www.nzgamer.com/index.php?type=1&sna=1&id=526) of a NZ PSP.

[GTShotoKen]

I personally think that Final Fantasy VI needs a PS3 remake because it was the most comprehensive of all the final fantasy games. It also had the best story in my opinion.

Kefka is the most evil villian I have ever seen (Yes, even more evil than Sephiroth).

Its musical score was amazing, even though it was on the SNES and is considered to be some of the best in the FF series.

No score can compare to One-Winged Angel from the fight with Savior Sephiroth in FF7 though.

[nesman]

One Winged Angel was awesome. Was that song in Latin or something? I never understood what the chorus was singing. :lol:

[Z]

No score can compare to One-Winged Angel from the fight with Savior Sephiroth in FF7 though.

Nobuyo Uematsu said that was his best score. personally, I chose FF8's opening theme.

[Handycrap101]

Ive never seen the Final Fantasy movie but is it completely based on FFVII?

[raVen]

Ive never seen the Final Fantasy movie but is it completely based on FFVII?

Im assuming your talking about FF:Spirits Within and in that case, no its was based off of any of the final fantasy's. If your talking about FF:Advent Children then the reason you probably havent seen it is because its not out yet :lol: but if that is the case then yes it is based on ff7

[Illmatic]

I personally think that Final Fantasy VI needs a PS3 remake because it was the most comprehensive of all the final fantasy games. It also had the best story in my opinion.

Kefka is the most evil villian I have ever seen (Yes, even more evil than Sephiroth).

Its musical score was amazing, even though it was on the SNES and is considered to be some of the best in the FF series.

I havn't played it, but alot of people seem to think it's the best in the series, i might have to check it out. It's on PS1 too isn't it??

[stanDarsh]

One Winged Angel was awesome. Was that song in Latin or something? I never understood what the chorus was singing. :lol:

Hey Nesman, here (http://www.midishrine.com/index.php?showlyr=6&site=wwwdotyagrdotcom) is a translation I found, if you are interested. Just scroll down towards the bottom of the page for the translation.

[Ducey]

Yeah i got mine imported for nz$425 :D , but nah, i was talking about the actual retail price (http://www.nzgamer.com/index.php?type=1&sna=1&id=526) of a NZ PSP.

Yeah, we poor New Zealanders get quite shafted on this stuff. We pay roughly $120-$130 for a newly released game (86-93 $USD)

:shock: Wow, I hadnt realised how much the difference had changed!

P.S One winged angel and the FFVIII intro song were Nobuo Uematsu's finest moments.

And Ive continued so far off topic I cant remember what the topic actually was. My bad :oops:

[raVen]

EGM's (Electronic Gaming Monthly) rumor corner reported that Square Enix is indeed working on a PS3 version of Final Fantasy VII, with graphic enhancements like in FFVII: Advent Children.

All hope was crushed during Sony's E3 preshow but rumors have begun to resurface about a FF7 remake... Just a rumor right now but this could be PS3's best kept secret/system seller.

[GTShotoKen]

EGM's (Electronic Gaming Monthly) rumor corner reported that Square Enix is indeed working on a PS3 version of Final Fantasy VII, with graphic enhancements like in FFVII: Advent Children.

All hope was crushed during Sony's E3 preshow but rumors have begun to resurface about a FF7 remake... Just a rumor right now but this could be PS3's best kept secret/system seller.

I don't think RPG fans could handle the heartbreak if they believed this and it didn't turn out to be true.

After what was shown at E3 though, fans are definitely going to do all they can to get square to produce a remake. Fans successfully got Hideo Kojima to stay on the Metal Gear franchise.

I don't think Square will put off on an easy revenue booster like this anyways; atleast make another spin off...."Final Fantasy 7: Aerith's Revenge." :lol:

[TEEDA]

One Winged Angel was inspired by Carmina burana by Vangelis .

[shadowofomioc]

Remember what made the Playstation finally start outselling the Saturn 5-1? Thats right, it was Final Fantasy VII.

What better to cause the PS3 to skyrocket into everyones living rooms then the very game that made the PLAYSTATION the PLAYSTATION.

I have this feeling that we will be seeing a FFVII remake on the PS3, because Square has already broken their old theology of never going back to an old Final Fantasy game when they made FFX-2. And now they have FFVII - Cerburus for the PS2 and FFVII movies. The possibilities of this is much much better these days.

Or better yet, what would happen to the gaming world if suddenly Square shows a FINAL FANTASY VI TECH DEMO - JK! And boom theres Kefka laughing into the screen in glorious next generation graphics.

A man can dream can't he? lol. But, seeing a FFVII remake wouldnt suprise me in the least this generation. It would just make me wet myself and cry like a B****

[Key]

Not saying its going tol be FFVII, but I think Square is working a different FF for PS3 instead of just FFXIII. I believe if they was just working on FFXIII for the PS3, they would have already came out and say it.

Remember, We knew about FFX, FFXI, and FFXII (or was that FFIX, FFX, FFXI?) coming out for the PS2 around a year or so before the PS2 was even released.

[rpgamer_2k5]

Square only confirmed that a Final Fantasy game will be appearing on the PS3. While Square did support promise support for MS and Nintendo, it is only the online titles now.

Sony does own a significant portion of Square-Enix, so we certainly won't be seeing games on the Xbox or Nintendo that will harm the PS3. Online ports do not nor do games like Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicals (a game that was just published by Sony).
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.
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Everything has a reason.

Hironobu Sakaguchi: He is not a worthless, he is claimed to be the creator of the FF series. There is no way SE would just throw him out because he was the own that left SE. His company Mistwalker Games are actually a first party developer for Xbox 360.

What does this infer? This tells us that he did not like Se's decisions pertaining to MS. Moreoever he did say in his prior interviews that he had friends at Xbox Japan which is why he wanted to develop games on the Xbox. He left SE because of Xbox and now his company is the flagship RPG develop for the Xbox 360.

I, personally am looking forward to this, because now we're going to see RPGs become a lot more creative.

SE Games for PS3: Wouldn't be more appropriate to release such info at the Tokyo Game Show. When the PS2 was unveiled at E3 not many RPGs were present.

Final Words: Sony hardly invested in RPGs because of Square-Enix. Once SE becomes more multiparty, they will do something just as significant as Microsoft. (Note: A good amount of the individuals that developed Chrono Trigger are actually in Monolith).

PS: There is a reason why I made such an ackwardly structured post. :D

[Red_Eyes]

FF7 remake had just been confirmed by EGM... in the rumor section for PS3. Lol. What? You thought I was gonna say it's official? Hahaha.

[raVen]

FF7 remake had just been confirmed by EGM... in the rumor section for PS3. Lol. What? You thought I was gonna say it's official? Hahaha.

I sort of kind of already posted that sir. :roll:

[GTShotoKen]

Final Fantasy XIII? 13 is a very unlucky number!!!!

Does this mean Final Fantasy XIII will be the first bad Final Fantasy?! :shock:

Maybe this is a good time to change the name of the Final Fantasy Series.

:idea: Maybe "Final Disallusionment" or "Final Dream-Like State"? :lol:

I wonder what Square will do? :?:

[Red_Eyes]

Final Fantasy XIII? 13 is a very unlucky number!!!!

Does this mean Final Fantasy XIII will be the first bad Final Fantasy?! :shock:

Maybe this is a good time to change the name of the Final Fantasy Series.

:idea: Maybe "Final Disallusionment" or "Final Dream-Like State"? :lol:

I wonder what Square will do? :?:

No, see, there's gonna be a FF7 remake for PS3. Call it FF14 (7 x 2 = 14)
And FFXIII, it'll be a Final Fantasy about Red XIII. Lol.

WARNING: The post above is fictitious and should not be believe.

[raVen]

WARNING: The post above is fictitious and should not be believe.

:lol: Sad you have to clarify that but it'll probably still find its way onto Gamespots rumors of the week.

[GTShotoKen]

Hey everyone, I just went to rumor control at Gamespot and........


WARNING: The post above is fictitious and should not be believe.

WHAT!!!!! YOU DESTROYED MY DREAMS! :cry: :cry:

Getting everyone's hopes up like that. I hope you are happy with youself! :x

I'm gonna go lay down now. :(

[Z]

I don't think Square will put off on an easy revenue booster like this anyways

if you think about it, ever modern FF is a ‘revenue booster’, yet the only –partially- sequel was the shameful FFX-2. though it was horrible, it still sold like mad and was chosen by many as the RPG of the year.

What better to cause the PS3 to skyrocket into everyones living rooms then the very game that made the PLAYSTATION the PLAYSTATION.


Your answer is a ten year old remake? I would most certainly say FF13!!, not a ‘been there, done that’ decade old game.
His company Mistwalker Games are actually a first party developer for Xbox 360.


Square has already broken their old theology of never going back to an old Final Fantasy game when they made FFX-2. And now they have FFVII - Cerburus for the PS2 and FFVII movies. The possibilities of this is much much better these days.


FFX-2 is the only exception. The other games that carry the FF7 names are ‘spin-offs’ not RPG sequels. It began with ‘Before Crises’ on mobiles and now a PSP game, a PS2 game and the movie.
I believe if they was just working on FFXIII for the PS3, they would have already came out and say it.
they are working of FF13. Square announced around the time of FF9 that they made two teams working on the FF franchise. The aim was to have two FF projects in the works at anyone time. This was to provide an FF game annually instead of the long waits. So when they were making FF9, FF10 was als