Upon approval, we shall merge!

[Tenchi]

In the weeks leading up to E3, PSiNext garnered the attention of the entire video gaming community, and was bombarded with traffic. You may all have experienced slow-downs, malfunctions and 403 Forbidden messages. Well, we are here to propose an end to all of the commotion that came bundled with success, and that is an entire merge with E-mpire.

If you are pondering the meaning of the last few lines, let us explain: We believe that merging our message forums, some of the most respected boards on the Internet, with E-mpire's, one of the World Wide Web's largest communities. So how will we merge vBulletin with phpBB? Omega and the E-mpire staff have a few ideas which I will not only vouch for, but believe in profusely.

Omega has spoken with me about this problem and he believes in this move as strongly as I and the rest of E-mpire does. You vote on weather the forums should expand or contract, because if this path is continued, we may not be able to endow you with news due to immense, on-going traffic.

Now, if you are all in accordance with what's stated herein, help us out a bit and give us feedback on the topic. We need approval to make the move, for without you guys -- our valued members -- we would be nothing but a bunch of news-typing males and females.

[FerrianX]

You vote on weather the forums should expand or contract, because if this path is continued,we may not be able to endow you with news due to immense, on-going traffic.

I only signed up a to this forum late last year, but I've been browsing them for much MUCH longer. The main reason I came here is that the people here try to remain as objective as possible, sure the occasional "Woo Sony" this or "Playstation Rules" that pops up, but that's to be expected. If this merge does go through what does that mean to the objectivity which I find makes this forum better then anyother?

Also what exactly do you mean by 'may not be able to endow us with news due to immense, on-going traffic'?

If you could answer those questions, I'll then gladly place my vote.

[Tenchi]

You vote on weather the forums should expand or contract, because if this path is continued,we may not be able to endow you with news due to immense, on-going traffic.

I only signed up a to this forum late last year, but I've been browsing them for much MUCH longer. The main reason I came here is that the people here try to remain as objective as possible, sure the occasional "Woo Sony" this or "Playstation Rules" that pops up, but that's to be expected. If this merge does go through what does that mean to the objectivity which I find makes this forum better then anyother?

Also what exactly do you mean by 'may not be able to endow us with news due to immense, on-going traffic'?

If you could answer those questions, I'll then gladly place my vote.
If the traffic continues en-route, there is no viable option to convey information if it is intercepted by pesky 403 Forbidden messages.

[n1n9tean]

I don't want the forums to get all jumbled in with a whole other forum and adding even more topics if that's what you are talking about Tenchi. That wouldnt be cool at all.

This is what it sounds like (just as an example):

-E-empire forums
~PS2
~GC
~Xbox
~Off Topic

-PSINext forums
~PS3
~Politics
~PS2
~Help

etc., etc......... Is that how it would be though??

[FerrianX]

Well I'm not one for fixing things specially when they aren't really broken. But if you all do feel it is the only / best way to counter the increased traffic, then do it.

I have some doubts, but you've all done a great job so far... I look forward to what you have in store 8)

[Tenchi]

About the question of our forums: We will have our own and in addition to that, you will be able to use E-mpire's main boards. You can see the Xbox RAW forums for yourself here (http://forums.e-mpire.com/?styleid=17). Tell me if this works for you guys and vote if you believe in it.

[FerrianX]

About the question of our forums: We will have our own and in addition to that, you will be able to use E-mpire's main boards. You can see the Xbox RAW forums for yourself here (http://forums.e-mpire.com/?styleid=17). Tell me if this works for you guys and vote if you believe in it.

So it's a matter of keeping what we have going, and just adding the E-mpire main boards?

I've already registered for the PsiNext forums, does that mean I'd need to register on E-mpire? or how would that work?

Sorry for all the questions, just I really like what has been accomplished here on these forums, and a change like this is pretty big.

[Tenchi]

About the question of our forums: We will have our own and in addition to that, you will be able to use E-mpire's main boards. You can see the Xbox RAW forums for yourself here (http://forums.e-mpire.com/?styleid=17). Tell me if this works for you guys and vote if you believe in it.

So it's a matter of keeping what we have going, and just adding the E-mpire main boards?

I've already registered for the PsiNext forums, does that mean I'd need to register on E-mpire? or how would that work?

Sorry for all the questions, just I really like what has been accomplished here on these forums, and a change like this is pretty big.
The user data is easily transferred over to E-mpire and then we may continue what we have already begun. Questions are good, as is the merging. :wink:

[n1n9tean]

OK, so I voted yes. If it will be like those forums you posted as an example I'm okay with that. :wink:

[Rallyracr420]

I guess I still don't understand quite what's going on.

So on the main forums page where we now have only listed Playstation related topics, if we merge there's going to be a huge list of topics that includes everything e-mpire supports?

Or the site will look exactly the same and the forums will be now hosted on empire's computers?

How will usernames be affected...will users login per forum type (xbox raw, nintendo now, psinext, etc) or will one username get everyone to all forums?

[Viper]

I guess I still don't understand quite what's going on.

So on the main forums page where we now have only listed Playstation related topics, if we merge there's going to be a huge list of topics that includes everything e-mpire supports?

Or the site will look exactly the same and the forums will be now hosted on empire's computers?

How will usernames be affected...will users login per forum type (xbox raw, nintendo now, psinext, etc) or will one username get everyone to all forums?
Check out Xbox Raw forums (http://forums.e-mpire.com/?styleid=17) and replace the Xbox info with Sony info topics. All topics we have here that are similar to those at E-mpire can be added to them so you don't lose posts or threads

Log in names won't change, unless someone has that name already and we'll manually work around that. Log in at one and you're logged in at them all.

[Rallyracr420]

I vote no. I don't appreciate you guys making money off our posts when all we get out of it is more ads.

[n1n9tean]

I like how those forums are set up. You can minimize a set of topics you dont want to see. Another thing I like is the fact that you can see a preview of what's in a post before you actually click it by hovering over with your mouse arrow (no more pranskter posts :lol: ). Plus it's cool that the Xbox and GC forums are all connected so we will be able to post to all of those without registering seperately. 8)

So yea it'll be cool. Lots of little nice touches. 8)

[Viper]

Glad you guys like some of the subtleties. Interestingly, we've actually removed other features that we originally had but will eventually be bringing back, time permitting.

[Tenchi]

Call this what you want -- motivation, bribing, incentive, a cause to sell out -- but guess what; not only will the E-mpire merger -- or marriage, as Omega and I discussed this matter -- benefit PSiNext, but it will give you a chance to talk to the folks who make the games you will play! No, you aren't hallucinating, what I just uttered is veritable. Don't believe me? Check it out for yourself. NeoPong Software, Inc. is now officially hosting its message boards through our community. NintendoNow and E-mpire are proud to present to you the NeoPong Message Forum (http://forums.e-mpire.com/forumdisplay.php?f=40) hosted by E-mpire.

[the legendary ice man]

Why does it have to be merged with the E-mpire forums?

Can't you continue running phpbb, but on their bandwidth/servers

[Tenchi]

Why does it have to be merged with the E-mpire forums?

Can't you continue running phpbb, but on their bandwidth/servers
We can, but in the future, phpBB will continue to fail with its numerous bugs which are patched as best possible by its team. The fact is, vBulletin is superior software, and if that is what we need to succeed in the next generation, not just of consoles, but of PSiNext, than that is what we shall utilize. :wink:

[stanDarsh]

I already voted yes, but just realised something and I need to ask a couple of questions:

1) Can you garrentee that all the posts and registered members (providing the name isn't already used) will still be in tact?

2) Will this mean many of us staff members will become redundant after the merge, or will all staff members be kept? Why I ask this is I believe we have a good team going, and it would be sad if any staff members lost their job.

Thanks for your time.

[Tenchi]

1) Can you garrentee that all the posts and registered members (providing the name isn't already used) will still be in tact?
Uniqueness has always been one of PSiNext's strong points, and if there are names utilized which are currently unavailable through E-mpire, we will ask the user to select a different name in order to accommodate.

2) Will this mean many of us staff members will become redundant after the merge, or will all staff members be kept? Why I ask this is I believe we have a good team going, and it would be sad if any staff members lost their job.
Not at all my good friend, it means the exact opposite. With such a massive forum, we will need every staff member we can get. :wink:

Thanks for your time.
Hey, there's no need to thank me, in fact, I should be thanking PSiNext.

[Coded-Dude]

e-business is all about scalability...by all means do anything you deem necessary to the sucessful survival of the boards

[Fooly Cooly]

lets say you have an account in the empire forums with a diffrent name what will happen will you have to user names i use here and my info

lets say you have the same username same in the empire forums as in the psinext forums what will happend will it get overwritten

[the legendary ice man]

Why does it have to be merged with the E-mpire forums?

Can't you continue running phpbb, but on their bandwidth/servers
We can, but in the future, phpBB will continue to fail with its numerous bugs which are patched as best possible by its team. The fact is, vBulletin is superior software, and if that is what we need to succeed in the next generation, not just of consoles, but of PSiNext, than that is what we shall utilize. :wink:

Seems heavily one sided. phpBB3 is a hell of a lot more secure, although isn't supported just yet.

I'm not really bothered what happens to PsiNext - just as long as I can still use the www.psinext.com domain.

[HGwells]

Well seeing as you guys saved this community from a slow death. (No disrespect to the original Psinext team.) I'm sure you'll do whats best for the community.
I don't have any questions as previous posters have asked the right ones. Just don't screw it up the transition. *shakes fist at staff*

[Coded-Dude]

yessum, One of the last transitions lost a few months of posts.
There were some good topics lost, as well as posting stats. :?

Users with the same username is a very curious point, however.....

[Tenchi]

Well folks, it seems that we may not be able to move if these votes stay like this. :cry:

[Coded-Dude]

what kind of win % do you want(you have a 2/3 majority)?

[HGwells]

Well folks, it seems that we may not be able to move if these votes stay like this. :cry:
The actual voting figures aren't impressive "16 votes in total". Maybe you should send a mass PM to all members and make them aware of the situation. I just happened to stumble on this thread. I could have easily overlooked it.

[Fooly Cooly]

Well folks, it seems that we may not be able to move if these votes stay like this. :cry:

I voted no but if it's good for the forums you guy should do it I guess I got use to the small psinext community its really up to you guys if we really need the change to empire

[Tenchi]

Well folks, it seems that we may not be able to move if these votes stay like this. :cry:

I voted no but if it's good for the forums you guy should do it I guess I got use to the small psinext community its really up to you guys if we really need the change to empire
Look at it this way: We are not small. In order to better serve you guys and so that you can in fact, as ice man said, "use the psinext domain." You cannot get news nor interaction if errors are so frequent, E3 showed us our mistakes, we want to move on and never have to experience that. Do you want to be punished for success?

[n1n9tean]

Well folks, it seems that we may not be able to move if these votes stay like this. :cry:
The actual voting figures aren't impressive "16 votes in total". Maybe you should send a mass PM to all members and make them aware of the situation. I just happened to stumble on this thread. I could have easily overlooked it.

I agree. You guys really need to do better in getting the word out to all the mebers of the forum. Can't you make this a sticky in each topic instead of only everything else???

[Tenchi]

Well folks, it seems that we may not be able to move if these votes stay like this. :cry:
The actual voting figures aren't impressive "16 votes in total". Maybe you should send a mass PM to all members and make them aware of the situation. I just happened to stumble on this thread. I could have easily overlooked it.

I agree. You guys really need to do better in getting the word out to all the mebers of the forum. Can't you make this a sticky in each topic instead of only everything else???
We could, but we do not want nor need a huge figure. Most of the members here sway one way, so if 2 out of 3 members say that they will get a PS3, two thirds or more of this community's members would say the same.

[FerrianX]

We could, but we do not want nor need a huge figure. Most of the members here sway one way, so if 2 out of 3 members say that they will get a PS3, two thirds or more of this community's members would say the same.

For such a big change to happen, I'm surprised to see none of the other Mods or Admins posting their views on this matter (other then yourself / stanDarsh / and Viper). An opinion from the older members of this forum would also be valued...

Also it's a change everyone should be made aware of... so this shouldn't be viewed as just a small poll, but more as an announcement where everyone knows about it.

I respect the fact that you do not want nor need a huge figure, but at least give people the chance at finding this thread instead of keeping it low key in Everything Else...

[xbdestroya]

I voted no also - and I'm staff! :lol:

I would hate for member/focus 'dilution' to occur, but of course if they ever do end up being merged, I'll support the merged entity 100%.

Again, with the being staff and all...

[Fats]

I also voted no, I'm really not too keen on the idea. :?

I can see the validity of it, but I'm just such a pessimist...

[RichardCypher101]

I sway in regards of how the forums will feel. These forums have stayed the way they are today for years, and theres a lot of people who consider it "home". If the new change comes with loss in this feeling of "home", then i'll not be for it. Heh, and im the Admin. of the site! :oops:

If it takes me more work to keep the site going to maintain these forums, then by all means I will do it (That is, if the merge doesnt feel right, if it goes through. If it does go through and everythin doesnt settle right, it'll be reverted.). If I have to work alone, i'll do it. Thankfully I have a nice slew of staff that enjoys their positions and are getting ready to be working hard on keeping the sites news updated everyday. So in this, im not alone.

Let it be home, or let it be nothing.

-Rich

[Tenchi]

I sway in regards of how the forums will feel. These forums have stayed the way they are today for years, and theres a lot of people who consider it "home". If the new change comes with loss in this feeling of "home", then i'll not be for it. Heh, and im the Admin. of the site! :oops:

If it takes me more work to keep the site going to maintain these forums, then by all means I will do it (That is, if the merge doesnt feel right, if it goes through. If it does go through and everythin doesnt settle right, it'll be reverted.). If I have to work alone, i'll do it. Thankfully I have a nice slew of staff that enjoys their positions and are getting ready to be working hard on keeping the sites news updated everyday. So in this, im not alone.

Let it be home, or let it be nothing.

-RichRichard, I am sure a template with the feeling of this can be conjured up.

Everyone: Why vote no? Is success bad? Why should PSiNext be punished for its immense success? Do you want to post? You cannot if this site is constantly down. The domain is going to take you to a Forbidden 403 page every time it is overloaded, and that is virtually all the time.

Why punish our site for its success? The way I, Viper and Omega, in addition to everyone whom voted yes see it, we should be able to succeed and to post at the same time. In order to do this, we must move onto bigger and better things. This is not bias, this is not a ploy to tear this site apart, it's the exact opposite; sure, it will cause a few problems in the beginning, but when these boards first opened, were you as used to them as you are now? No.

We must become acquainted with vBulletin, and this is a dilemma, but if we do not, we must become acquainted with 403 Error messages, and I'd take vBulletin any day of the week, month, year, century or millennium.

[FerrianX]

Rich said it best... a lot of people consider this forum "home". So you have to understand hesitations of moving from the tiny suburbs to the big city.

To be blunt, I just don't want to wake up tomorrow and login to a forum that just adopted a handful of uninformed fanboy's and fangirl's.

I love what was built here, and if there could be a trial run at it... with the option of reverting back, then that would be a great way to let go of the hesitations some may have.

[gnznroses]

voted no

[the legendary ice man]

What if people donated to the psinext cause?

Could you invest into extra servers and load balancing?

[Fooly Cooly]

I also got used to using and looking at the phpBB forums the empire forums feel weird and there slow too and also most of the users here kind of know who is who going to another forums will lose it sense of community

[Sigma]

I voted positively, these forums will still remain the same no matter what service powers them.

[n1n9tean]

I voted yes a while ago but I'm sort of nuetral now (doesn't mean I agree or disagree with a merge but just as I said nuetral). I've read some good points and all I can say is that whatever happens I hope it's for the better. Later. :wink:

[n1n9tean]

And I liked the previous homepage better before e-mpire changed it...it had a more professional look.

Totally agree with you there. I thought that it would look much better in "all it's glory" (or however it was put) but it hasn't changed since. The original front page was MUCH better. Plus you could see the latest posts right there on the front page. That was convenient. I havent noticed any ads but if it came to displaying ads every couple of pages clicked (like IGN does) that would be a pain in the ass. BIG turnoff.

I still dont quite know what to say about the "merge" but admins PLEASE don't bring this site down!!! :cry: I dont even currently have a game system (of any sort...might get another PSP but IDK) but I still like to come here and chat because it's a cool site to chat about "whatever" including games.

[Kiosko]

I vote yes. The errors are getting out of hand.

[The_One]

I voted yes, becuase I don't want the events that happened during this E3 to be repeated. The forum was down for MANY crucial moments when E3 news were being released. I'm sure many potential members were turned away at the sluggishness of the forum too.

As long as the future forum is much more stable, then I say we go for it.

And I agree with HGwells. Do not screw up the transition like last time :lol:.

[Fooly Cooly]

I just say one of the full screen ads they are annoying especially with slow internet even by pressing the skip button takes a while to change the page do we really need those ads the site didnt have them before

[n1n9tean]

I havn't seen one yet. But when I do...ohhhh boy...when I do....I'll...I'll....well, let's just say I won't be happy with it at all. :evil:

[gnznroses]

yeah, the ads are gay. i've never actually SEEN them, but here's the prob. i have a ad/popup/other bs blocker and so when the ad is supposed to be there i just get a page saying "[Blocked Ads]", then i hafat turn off the blocker, refresh the page, then turn it back on. i never see the ad cause i guess it's already set a cookie, but it's annoying anyways...

[RichardCypher101]

http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/central.html

-Rich

[gnznroses]

why would i switch to firefox because of that?... i have Maxthon, which includes the built-in ad/bs filter, and i can turn it off and on from the status bar, but it's still annoying. what actually happens is i get the "blocked ads" page, then i turn off the filter, hit refresh and i get page can't be displayed. so what i actually have to do is then edit the address bar, taking off the beginning of the url and leavng just the psinext.com/forums that is tacked on to the end and hitting Go. so now i know i can just skip turning off/on my filter and just edit the url when i get the "blocked ads" page.

still annoying but saves me some time.

[HGwells]

All the talk of getting a pop up blocker or switching browser is redundant. The fact is we shouldn't have any adverts on this forum at all save banners.

On the main page you can have as many Adverts as you want and I’m sure those said adverts would make you some revenue if the Homepage was in a suitable state and forum members and the general public actually regularly browsed it.

To put those sorts of ads on the forum is first of all a nuisance to those who post alot of Information/News as well as those who take part in the discussions. Secondly it is very insulting to regular forum members seeing as we make up the bulk of the news. We have to plow through crap just to post news that helps get membership figures up as well as site hits.

I mean if these ads were introduced in the past before we lost old school staff like Josh and the rest. These ads won't have been that bad as they were providing us with news we couldn't get else where. Heck sites like Gamespot and IGN came here for their news but, in this board’s current state your ads aren't justified.

[Dorbin]

I think everyone should just give E-mpire a chance to incorporate the features they are trying to add.

[Omega]

There are no redirect ads in the forums only the main site.

[gnznroses]

There are no redirect ads in the forums only the main site.

yeah, mmmkay...

i come to the site, click Forums, i get some media.fastclick.net bs, and i hafat edit the url to continue.

[Tenchi]

There are no redirect ads in the forums only the main site.

yeah, mmmkay...

i come to the site, click Forums, i get some media.fastclick.net bs, and i hafat edit the url to continue.
People, c'mon. Read your comments from an owners standpoint and see how you feel. You feel empty because no one appreciates the money you and your network has put into designing a site.

PSiNext was dead and these people revived it, and frankly, they deserve much more respect than they are receiving right now.

If E-mpire would not have come along, do you really think Andrew would have continued paying for hosting when the site was essentially face-less?

[Dorbin]

There are no redirect ads in the forums only the main site.

yeah, mmmkay...

i come to the site, click Forums, i get some media.fastclick.net bs, and i hafat edit the url to continue.

There's a handy "skip" button on the top right that skips the ad and brings you right to your destination...what do you mean "edit the URL"? Maybe I'm misunderstanding you...or, you're doing things the hard way.

[Metal_head]

People complaing about the ads need to remember that it does cost money to run these sites. When/if the forums are merged both sites will benifit no matter how you look at it. If you want the community to grow this is one of the quickest and least painfull ways.

Btw, I am one of the admins over at the e-mpire forums.

[Brad]

do it

[Goki]

I say put a paypal donation page on every page, and get better servers. Thas my 2 cents... (havent voted yet)

[Omega Blue]

There are no redirect ads in the forums only the main site.

yeah, mmmkay...

i come to the site, click Forums, i get some media.fastclick.net bs, and i hafat edit the url to continue.
People, c'mon. Read your comments from an owners standpoint and see how you feel. You feel empty because no one appreciates the money you and your network has put into designing a site.

PSiNext was dead and these people revived it, and frankly, they deserve much more respect than they are receiving right now.

If E-mpire would not have come along, do you really think Andrew would have continued paying for hosting when the site was essentially face-less?

Cut the bullshit, i saw that little guilt trip you tried to throw Richard on. You and every E-mpire Elitist acting asshole who claims to be the savior of this site can shove that entire concept up your ass as far as God will allow it. Dont act like you give a damn about us with your "c'mon can you see the babies crying, poor poor things". You show no regard for this website, as to what Scott and Andrew had hoped for this to become. As far as i can see to you its just about "ZOMG MOR MEMBERZ WEEZ GONNA BEE 1337!".

Then in this oh so insperational post, you degrade this website? Calling it "dead" and "face-less". GG great way to get on loyal members good side....NOOOOT. If this website had to go down just so dicks like you wouldn't take over, I'd take that as a good sign and welcome it with open arms.

I voted positively, these forums will still remain the same no matter what service powers them.You haven't even been here a month, you dont haven't the feintest idea what this site Was(Great forum with a nice community, who were fore the most part self sufficient), to what it has and will become.

Delete this post and Prove to me how right i am.

[stanDarsh]

I'm not going to silence you Omega Blue, by deleting your post, however I will ask you, what would your solution be to the evergrowing PSiNext forum members? E3 has come and gone, and most of those days I could not access this site, and saying it was annoying would be an understatement! What can we do? Merging is but one option, if you have some way of fixing the problem by all means voice your opinion!

[gnznroses]

There are no redirect ads in the forums only the main site.

yeah, mmmkay...

i come to the site, click Forums, i get some media.fastclick.net bs, and i hafat edit the url to continue.

There's a handy "skip" button on the top right that skips the ad and brings you right to your destination...what do you mean "edit the URL"? Maybe I'm misunderstanding you...or, you're doing things the hard way.


no, not for me. since the url is an ad site (fastclick.net) the page doesn't load. it doesn't just block the ad, but the entire page. if there were banner ads that would be fine, cause i'd get the forum page, but with the banner missing.

i understand why there's ads. i put ads on my sites. but i use banners. if there's gonna be a "intro" type ad, it should be done the way IGN or Megagames does it. where you are still on psinext.com, but it shows a big ad from whereever, with a link to skip it. an i-frame could be used as well. but directing the traffic completely off of psinext.com is what is annoying.

[FerrianX]

Tenchi... this post has been open for a good few days now and that small sample you wanted, has been acheived (at least in my eyes). You have the opinions of the veterans and the newcomers alike... so what will you/E-Mpire do already?

Some good suggestions have been made, but no thoughts on them have been received from yourself / Viper / or Omega.

- Donations - Trial Run - etc...

What requirements need to be met inorder to keep the forums as they are now? Is it a money issue for better Servers / Hosting?

Unless watching the members of this forum bash or praise this merger, is becoming fun for you do something already. Take into consideration some of the suggestions that have been made, and comment on them, or just decide already.

I've been browsing these forums for years, and at the end of the day if need be I will request to become a Staff Member and help keep this forum going as it is right now.

I like what we have here as do many others... so what say you?

[Dorbin]

Interesting that E-mpire is composed of heartless elitists, and yet are allowing people to vote on important issues...

Come on Omega Blue, you don't know anything about the people who run the network, apparently, and don't care to learn about how they hope to improve things.

I guess everyone who ever put an ad on a website qualifies as a hopeless, cold-hearted "elitist"? C'mon guys, think about what you are saying.

Edit: Although I am not sure if this is permanent, it appears the full page ads have been completely removed from both the forums and the main site.

[Viper]

We haven't posted much regarding suggestions yet because we are simply taking them all in first before we comment on them.

I can state that we'd rather not have you send money in. Unlike a typical corporation, we try not to divert our financial costs back on to the end user, hence the temporary ads.

As for the ads themselves, they were trials. A test to see which forms of ads would provide the maximum server cost coverage with the least amount of intrusion on the user.

Omega Blue, you obviously do not know us at all and appear to have been screwed over by someone in the past in a similar situation. Get to know us bro. That's not our style. As Dorbin stated, if we wanted to be assholes and screw you guys over, why would we make polls regarding all our major decisions here? I've made 2 or 3 polls myself regarding changes and only implemented them with a super majority vote.


gnznroses, are you using Kill Pop-Up with Internet Explorer? I used that before Firefox came around and if you are using it, I can show you a way around it. Matters not now anyway as the ad has been removed.

[Tenchi]

Omega Blue, it is not in my nature to dispute you and/or attempt to silence you. Your post will not be deleted because every opinion, whether negative or positive, is a valued source of information. And yes, perhaps anger had its ways with my mind, yet I am not an owner nor aspire to become one. Imagine Omega, who put in every cent he could into building this network and then visits it to find these posts which single him out as the bad guy.

To you Omega Blue, I have but one thing to say: Don't get banned again. One week was enough, and I believe you are a great contributor to PSiNext's conversations. Keep in mind, though, you will not be banned by me, you will not be banned by E-mpire, you will be banned by your own selfishness and hatred towards diversity and change. Please do not reply with vulgarities such as the ones present in your previous post for I will not reply nor read your scribbles.

As Dorbin and Viper mentioned, if we are such "assholes" and "dickheads," why do we allow users to decide weather their portal changes or not? This forum is being run on a system based on democracy, we will allow the users to elect the changes and the dates on which said changes are implemented.

[Brandon]

I sway in regards of how the forums will feel. These forums have stayed the way they are today for years, and theres a lot of people who consider it "home". If the new change comes with loss in this feeling of "home", then i'll not be for it. Heh, and im the Admin. of the site! :oops:

If it takes me more work to keep the site going to maintain these forums, then by all means I will do it (That is, if the merge doesnt feel right, if it goes through. If it does go through and everythin doesnt settle right, it'll be reverted.). If I have to work alone, i'll do it. Thankfully I have a nice slew of staff that enjoys their positions and are getting ready to be working hard on keeping the sites news updated everyday. So in this, im not alone.

Let it be home, or let it be nothing.

-Rich
I agree with your last statement. Couldn't have said it better myself. These forums really do feel like "home", and I wouldn't want this place to go the way of every other discussion board I've been to. They're just not the same. If PSINext suddenly has a "foreign" feeling to it...it will lose all the spark it once had, and I wouldn't feel right about the change at all.

If it takes me more work to keep the site going to maintain these forums, then by all means I will do it (That is, if the merge doesnt feel right, if it goes through. If it does go through and everythin doesnt settle right, it'll be reverted).
I agree.

If I have to work alone, i'll do it. Thankfully I have a nice slew of staff that enjoys their positions and are getting ready to be working hard on keeping the sites news updated everyday. So in this, im not alone.
I'm still right beside ya, bro. ;)

[gnznroses]

gnznroses, are you using Kill Pop-Up with Internet Explorer? I used that before Firefox came around and if you are using it, I can show you a way around it. Matters not now anyway as the ad has been removed.


no, i'm using Maxthon. it's a browser. was formerly called MyIE2. it's based on IE (so sites don't look like crap) but incorporates tons of new features. the built-in ad filter blocks all ads, popups, etc. ads are blocked via URL. for example "ads.*" blocks any url with "ads" as the subdomain. also sites like fastclick are blocked.

it should be noted that anyone that has installed Kazaa Lite (of whom there are surely millions) would click Forums at the main site, get Page Can't Be Dsiplayed, probably think the site is just down and leave. cause K-Lite uses the HOSTS file to block all ad sites as well.

[n1n9tean]

so would the change add quick reply and all the features teamxbox forums have?? If so I think we should just give it a try.

[Viper]

so would the change add quick reply and all the features teamxbox forums have?? If so I think we should just give it a try.Basically all the forum features that TeamBox has, since they also use vB 3.07. Plus we have a few they don't and will bring many we used to have back since we took some offline to conserve bandwith.

[n1n9tean]

yea I just joined those forums to check them out and from my experience anyway, I dont know who was talking about it being slow with ads and all that but it wasnt any slower than we are and I have yet to see an ad here (these forums) or there.

I also use Maxthon. :?

So I stand with my yes vote now that I've checked them out (the TXB forums) and seen how it would be.

[gnznroses]

i visited NintendoNow and now i'm not so against it. i see how it works now.

[Fooly Cooly]

so when are you guys going to decide to stay or change the forums

[the legendary ice man]

If E-mpire would not have come along, do you really think Andrew would have continued paying for hosting when the site was essentially face-less?

Doesn't that imply that your hosting is already with E-mpire?

[Viper]

so when are you guys going to decide to stay or change the forumsThat's a good question but one I myself cannot yet truly answer. This is my own opinion but if Omega wishes to expedite the matter, then so shall it be. I'd like us to finish a few back end tasks we are working on first. These will dramatically increase our server loads, allow more flexibilty on the main pages, increase our traffic and generally give you guys the best experience we can give you. I won't give you a ETA on their completion because we don't want to dissapoint you if we miss it by a few days.

[n1n9tean]

:shock: :shock: :shock:

That was the MOST annoying ad EVER!!

"CONGRATULATIONS You've Won FREE Gas for a Year!!!" *BLINK*BLINK*BLINK*BLINK*BLINK*BLINK*BLINK*

I mean I see ads like that regularly elsewhere but those are usually no bigger than most member's avatars. This dam thing covered the whole page with the blinding blinking. I almost had a heart attack!! :lol:

OK not really but those kind of ads suck though. :x It would be cool if there was another way than stalling members on their way to check out the new posts real quick so they can get back to what they were doing. I know theres a button to skip but still, it wastes time. Anyway, If we have ads here then we may as well switch if were going to have ads at the new place too but atleast the forums will be setup better with more features.

Again, popup ads suck....just had to say that one more time.

EDIT: I had been like the only one not to see one in all my latest visits and I know why. Because of Outpost Firewall. It blocks them. I just had the ad blocker disabled for something I was doing and forgot it was still disabled. I'll be turning that back on now. :wink:

So as a very helpful tip...get Outpost Firewall!!!!!! There is a free version but I have Pro so I don't know if the feature is in the free version.

[Fooly Cooly]

one of those stupid ads ask you if you want a free purse too
who is this site would want a purse does this site even have girls online

[n1n9tean]

one of those stupid ads ask you if you want a free purse too
who is this site would want a purse does this site even have girls online

ohhh who do you think your foolin' Fooly Cooly...you KNOW you'd wear it if it was by GUCCI! :lol: :lol: :lol:

:wink:

[Viper]

A long time ago, we had a banner ad for a water padded bra. It was hilarious. With most ad companies, you don't get to choose the ads you get so we were stuck with that in the rotation for a while.

PS: We have about 10 ladies who post frequently with 2 of them on staff.

[Tenchi]

If E-mpire would not have come along, do you really think Andrew would have continued paying for hosting when the site was essentially face-less?

Doesn't that imply that your hosting is already with E-mpire?
Yes, it does.

[The_One]

A long time ago, we had a banner ad for a water padded bra. It was hilarious. With most ad companies, you don't get to choose the ads you get so we were stuck with that in the rotation for a while.

PS: We have about 10 ladies who post frequently with 2 of them on staff. Do you mean on PSiNext or E-mpire as a whole?

[Viper]

Sorry, I meant at E-mpire Forums. I'm not sure how many females we have posting here. I'm sure we have a few that lurk.

[SHOCK]

I am glad to see democracy at work . I know that alot of people have apprehensions about any sort of a move. I would too if I were in your postion. However, this move will be for the best.

I think you will all like VB and its many more features. PHPBB is great free software, but the old saying is true "you get what you pay for". There are many more features for VB, its easier to run from the back end perspective, and its much more secure meaning that there is less of a chance of someone hacking into it and deleting all of the data off of it, which happened in the phpbb community last summer, many forums lost most or all of thier databases due to a hacker/hackers who exploited one of the security weaknesses of phpbb.

As far as gaining alot of new members instantly, its has its advantages and its drawbacks. The biggest drawback is that you might see alot of people posting in here that you dont know. It seems to make it a tiny bit uncomfortable at first, but then in a couple months, everyone knows everyone so it gets better.
The biggest advantage is this: A lot of companies in the gaming industry are more willing to support sites that have a bigger member base "IE..REACH" with whatever they can. We will be more likely to get those preview copies of games, or contest sponsership or whatnot with a bigger member database. Just recently NintendoNow was shipped the new Fire Emblem for the GBA well before any other site had it to review. We had our review up first, it was EXCLUSIVE, Nintendo Now broke the story first (guess it was sort of a story), anyhoo.....any support we can get from the industry only goes to benefit you, you get the previews, you get the great contests, you reap the rewards. Another thing is what was mentioned in a post above. Nintendo Now has an actual DEVELOPER, licensed by Nintendo and releasing games for the GBA and DS this year, on the forum itself. THe NNow members get to talk directly to the developers. No other site that I have been on (not saying that one doesnt exist) has brought that feature into the forums. Do you think that if we only had 1000 or 2000 members, they would have been willing to do such a thing, probably not.

Now for the ads, The ads are there because the E-mpire exists as a seperate entity from the owners of it. We have the site set up to support itself at a minimam. The ads will cover our server costs at the moment no matter how broke the people who pay for it are. The site can support itself, meaning that it shouldn't go down due to someone losing money in a poker game or whatnot. This does not mean that the network is an extravagant money maker, most months it barely makes enough to cover the server or falls slightly short and requires a bit of monetary push to make the server payment. But the server is not cheap and to keep the integrity of the site (and ensure its existance will not cease) we run the ads. Hopefully with more support and sponsership from the industry as a whole, we will be able to remove the ads all together. Trust me, the last thing we want to see in a template that we worked so hard to create, is a ad for a damn pink purse and parris hilton.

If/when the move occcurs, this database will be backed up and saved so that in the event of a mishap, we simply need re-install the database and voila, we are all back to normal. It should be able to work fine but the developers will be the ones doing the move so hopefully they prove my theory correct.

I voted yes, thats why.

My two cents.

[n1n9tean]

Let's go, Let's go, Let's go!!! :!: 8)

[Fooly Cooly]

24 yes to 14 no
are people still voting

Iam not that against changing forums anymore i guess change might be good
more people=more post

[Viper]

I think it's been a day or two since we've had more than one vote for the day.

[GodMachine_Iridius_Dio]

Just saw something to exploit, and now I gotta, so here goes.

"Upon approval, we shall merge."

My god that sounds hot!! Can I film?

[The_One]

Just saw something to exploit, and now I gotta, so here goes.

"Upon approval, we shall merge."

My god that sounds hot!! Can I film? I never knew you were the kind of joke about that kind of stuff, but even I gotta laugh when I see something good :lol:.

[Rallyracr420]

I'm not going to silence you Omega Blue, by deleting your post, however I will ask you, what would your solution be to the evergrowing PSiNext forum members? E3 has come and gone, and most of those days I could not access this site, and saying it was annoying would be an understatement! What can we do? Merging is but one option, if you have some way of fixing the problem by all means voice your opinion!
I said the exact same thing as Omega Blue and you guys had no qualms about silencing me. I agree with Omega...this site may be labeled PSiNext, but there's not an ounce of PSiNext left here.

[GUNDAMSEED]

I'm not going to silence you Omega Blue, by deleting your post, however I will ask you, what would your solution be to the evergrowing PSiNext forum members? E3 has come and gone, and most of those days I could not access this site, and saying it was annoying would be an understatement! What can we do? Merging is but one option, if you have some way of fixing the problem by all means voice your opinion!
I said the exact same thing as Omega Blue and you guys had no qualms about silencing me. I agree with Omega...this site may be labeled PSiNext, but there's not an ounce of PSiNext left here.

come on rallytrace there still a few of us like omega , the one , etc tec yeah something seems to be missing compare to the old days. i just hope everything works out okay i been here a long while would hate to see things go bad.

don't think i vote i will wait this one out .

Side note i seem to be one oldest members here sad thing is as new faces come the old ones don't stay the polls show me that much .

[Dorbin]

I'm a bit befuddled myself as to why many seem to be blaming "this lack of something" on E-mpire.

Although I don't wish to attempt to speak for the people here, probably the problem is not what is missing, but what has changed....and from what I can tell, the problem may be arising from the fact that the attitude of some members has changed. Forums are what you make them; it's no fun for anyone when some people become negative, for whatever reason, justified or not.

Just a thought.

[Viper]

Thanks Dorbin.


The 'way it used to be' can't really come back. Those changes took place before we came into the picture. The results of the loss of posts, people, activity and more are the reason why are even here. A bad situation happened here that was unexpected and unprepared for and we have stepped in to help Andrew recreate what was lost.


I must ask, have we come off as galling or spiteful to anyone? Have we presented ourselves in a manner that is less than formal integrity, sincerity and honesty? Have we not been Democratic in our decisions?

[Metal Sphere]

Thanks Dorbin.


The 'way it used to be' can't really come back. Those changes took place before we came into the picture. The results of the loss of posts, people, activity and more are the reason why are even here. A bad situation happened here that was unexpected and unprepared for and we have stepped in to help Andrew recreate what was lost.


I must ask, have we come off as galling or spiteful to anyone? Have we presented ourselves in a manner that is less than formal integrity, sincerity and honesty? Have we not been Democratic in our decisions?

While not a newcomer to online forums in the least, I am new to these parts. However, I'm aware these places have their ups and downs. "Golden Ages" according to older members, who always want them to return, but I've seen very little of that here. The majority of the active members I've come across aren't rude or fanatical.

The moderators, and admins I've spoken to have to be the pinnacle of friendly, level-headed and enthusiastic when compared to others with similar positions on the forums I've frequented. I support this merger, since it stands only to benefit us and the staff has shown that they mean to maintain the PSINext forums, members and their contributions to the forums.

Just my 2 cents.

[Viper]

Thanks Metal Sphere. It's level open-minded thinking of that magnitude that can bring about a new 'golden era'.

[Metal Sphere]

Thanks Metal Sphere. It's level open-minded thinking of that magnitude that can bring about a new 'golden era'.

Just giving credit where it's due, and pointing out the win-win situation we're heading into.

[stanDarsh]

I'm not going to silence you Omega Blue, by deleting your post, however I will ask you, what would your solution be to the evergrowing PSiNext forum members? E3 has come and gone, and most of those days I could not access this site, and saying it was annoying would be an understatement! What can we do? Merging is but one option, if you have some way of fixing the problem by all means voice your opinion!
I said the exact same thing as Omega Blue and you guys had no qualms about silencing me. I agree with Omega...this site may be labeled PSiNext, but there's not an ounce of PSiNext left here.

Did I personally silence you? Actually, no I didnt! In this particular thread because of the nature of it, I didn't have a problem with what you guys are saying as it was asking directly "Do you guys have a problem if we merge? If the answer is no, then we will merge, if Yes please do voice why" Obviously some people do have a problem with that question, otherwise you wouldnt have voiced your opinion as you did. If you have qualms with whoever edited your post or whatever happened I don't even know, then take it up with them.

On another note you say, "there is not an ounce of PSiNext left here". Take a good look around, the forum exists as just a virtual exchange of ideas, it could be any forum on the net, it really shouldn't matter, we just choose to post here out of personal preference. While we maintain and look after the forum in general, we don't make the forum, the posters do! Yourself being one of them, myself being another, even though I am now a moderator.

If you want what's best for the forums, make posts to the best of your ability! Now if every forum member here including staff members did just that, would you really care who owned the site, as you would know everyone is trying to do what's best for the site as a whole?

I leave you to answer that!

[diOndOrAntt]

No, this forums owns :D

[Viper]

OK, I just finished discussing it with Omega and we can merge this weekend.

I'll be making announcements here and there plus mass emailings so that no one is blindsided. We plan to be more forceful in upholdings rules against flaming, console bashing, trolling, etc...


We will do all we can to make sure that the best is provided for us all. If some of you are bothered by the changes, do accept my deepest apologies. Our goal is simply to keep this community alive, provide what it deserves and take it further than it's ever been.

[n1n9tean]

YAY and stuff.... :lol:

W3LCOM3 CHANG3. 8)

This place is operating Very SLOW right now.

@Viper W3LCOM3 CHANG3 was the first thing that popped in my head before I had even seen the other thread. :lol: But yea, that's how I feel too. :wink:

[xbdestroya]

OK - to all the anti-unification folk, I am certainly one of you and cast my vote for 'no.' But the change is going forward. I ask for all the 'old-school' crew to bare with the changes and the possible influx of fanboys looking to debate us here and not used to the atmosphere we try to foster. In the end I'm sure we will have a greater influence on the atmosphere of the collective forum than they will have on us. PSINext is a philosphy afterall, not just a site layout.

[Fats]

OK - to all the anti-unification folk, I am certainly one of you and cast my vote for 'no.' But the change is going forward. I ask for all the 'old-school' crew to bare with the changes and the possible influx of fanboys looking to debate us here and not used to the atmosphere we try to foster. In the end I'm sure we will have a greater influence on the atmosphere of the collective forum than they will have on us. PSINext is a philosphy afterall, not just a site layout.

Oh dear, I can see it now... Mass numbers of fanboys ruining what once was perfect! Noooo! I really do have my fingers crossed, and hope that this all works out for the best. :(

[O.D.S]

i voted yes because it has already been decided to merge

continuing on from what specialpro said,

the mods really need to be online and alert to edit out all the crap that will be put in these forums.
sadly i for one do not see as there being enough enforcemt of the rules once the merge will be complete, sure its good to hear every1s opinions (even mine :roll: )
but im really afraid of what could happen if we have hundreds of various fanboys all flaming each other.

this community here was great, now sadly it will be corrupted by every kind of F***ed up person you dont want in a forum :cry:

[Domination]

I'm just curious as to why the chat room on the main page doesn't work. Are you suppose to reregister for that or something?

[Coded-Dude]

good point dom.....it requires a password now....wtf is that?
just curious :roll:

[xbdestroya]

Well, the chat's working for me - but I have an E-mpire username ever since I became PSINext staff as well. You may need to either

a) go register at E-mpire

or

b) wait a couple of days and I think that your username will be useable for all E-mpire's native features.

I'm going to find out about that username thing too.

Also Duga don't worry, it's pretty lax around here usually but we'll be on 'extra security' alert during those first couple of weeks. I don't want my experience effected anymore than you want yours effected. 8)

[Viper]

I take no toleration to fanboys who fail to at least give reason for their disdain.

Also to note, most on the forums support more than a single console. Do not expect a diluge of members salivating to disagree with your every post. Many may pleasantly surprise you.

Also to note, for those not familiar with vB3 forums, I can remove access for any individual from any board. If one can't keep their mouth shut, they'll never see the Sony based boards again. They continue anyway, I will not hesitate to ban them and then toy with their profile for being an ass.

[Metal Sphere]

I take no toleration to fanboys who fail to at least give reason for their disdain.

Also to note, most on the forums support more than a single console. Do not expect a diluge of members salivating to disagree with your every post. Many may pleasantly surprise you.

Also to note, for those not familiar with vB3 forums, I can remove access for any individual from any board. If one can't keep their mouth shut, they'll never see the Sony based boards again. They continue anyway, I will not hesitate to ban them and then toy with their profile for being an ass.

On the money. A policy like that, made clear to the posters and enforced will go a long way towards discouraging fanboy rants and general chaos in threads. There doesn't even have to be a legion of mods, when a few strict ones will do the same job.

[O.D.S]

thanks for the reply guys, now that im sure the staff and mods will do their job with more control over users than ever before im looking forward to the merge.

"On the money. A policy like that, made clear to the posters and enforced will go a long way towards discouraging fanboy rants and general chaos in threads. There doesn't even have to be a legion of mods, when a few strict ones will do the same job"

i absolutly agree, im not asking for comunism like dictation from the staff but a few weeks of less toleration will show people what is accepted and was is not.

BTW keep up all the good work Staff -->:wink:

[Sephiroth_VII]

Don't do that...

These are the best forums i've ever been on.
also, i find the e-mpire style to be boring, and not as good as the current.

[Viper]

Don't do that...

These are the best forums i've ever been on.
also, i find the e-mpire style to be boring, and not as good as the current.You're getting your own style.

Watch this.

E-mpire default style:
http://forums.e-mpire.com/index.php?styleid=2

But, if you go to the forums from Xbox Raw:
http://forums.e-mpire.com/index.php?styleid=17

Go to them from NNow:
http://forums.e-mpire.com/index.php?styleid=16

It's all the same forum but the layout, design and visible boards are different depending upon where you come in from.

[stanDarsh]

Viper, is there any way to keep the integrity of the PS3iNext threads intact?

What I mean is the layout of the pages of the forums you just posted, seems more aimed to appeal to school kids rather than a more professional look for technically minded people in my opinion, particularly looking at the large sizes of some of the signatures.

I rather like the layout of the pages here, and would prefer it to look somewhat similar to the original PSiNext message boards.

I apologise if you find the "school kid appeal" remark offensive, but I can't change the way I feel about the layout of the pages in those forum threads.

All the best.

-Andy

[Viper]

The large signatures were a test to see if it would impede on page load times and by how much. This is our sig rule and it will be going back into effect soon:

A. Signatures

Max dimensions: 500x100
Max file size: 30k

-You can have two pictures in your signature, as long as they collectively do not exceed 30k.

-You may have lines of text in your signature, but make sure they are not longer than five lines of regular font, or eight lines of size 1 font.

-Please do not include text in your signature that is above size 3.

-You may put links in your signature, but be sure that they do not direct to pornographic websites, or websites that provide Warez (illegally downloadable software).

-Animation is okay, as long as it doesnt exceed 30k, or is outside the dimensions of 500x100.

-None of these are negotiable.





I'll need to know of what else you consider "school kid appeal" to inform you of what others changes can/are being made or those that are changeable just by the layout design.

[stanDarsh]

I thought I'd post this image to make explaining a little easier:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v439/stanDarsh/thread.jpg

1) Too much space for signatures! (probably my biggest problem with the layout). This is the sorta stuff I'd expect to see in a wrestling (WWE) forum, not here.

2) Location of avatar and personal info shown horizontally, rather than on a neater more professional looking left hand vertical column.

3) I'm nitpicking for 3, but that gender thing just really annoys me for some reason.

4) Unnessary 2nd signature space? Was the space for signatures below too small or something? I don't get it!

Anyway I realise you have a hard and important task to fulfill this weekend, but I think it's also important to make this new forum still feel like home!

[Fooly Cooly]

Will we keep the same stats a here such as post, name, and avatars

[Metal Sphere]

Will we keep the same stats a here such as post, name, and avatars

Last I heard, it's all staying in tact. I have to agree with stanDarsh, in that we should go for a more professional and clean layout as opposed to the massive chunks of empty space in their signatures and the horizontal layout of the member stats (which looks horrible).

Presentation goes a long way, and I'm sure the staff knows this. Present a neat and attractive layout and you've already taken one step towards discouraging those interested in causing trouble. Now that doesn't mean make an imposing layout, just one that doesn't look like that. Good Lord...

BTW, those signature limits are extremely generous, and if the avatar sizes will be that big, I'm sure there won't be many complaining about those areas. When exactly is the switch taking place? I read up in the thread, through XB's signature link, I just wanted to know when so I can be ready.

[Fats]

This forum has, by far, the best presentation that I've ever seen and I would hate to see the looks destroyed by oversized signatures and so on. I couldn't agree more with Stan and I hope that the issues that he raised will be seen to and PSInext will indeed still feel like home.

[xbdestroya]

Oh man... yeah those horizontal stats and such - ugh.

I think we all just need to steel ourselves against the aesthetic changes that might be coming and remember that the posters are the same people (with some new additions I guess).

I have a weird feeling that the forums we'll be merging with would have an even stronger backlash against losing their image-heavy post-layout's than we'll have to adopting them, and believe me I'll have as much trouble adopting them as anyone else! I'm worried it's something we'll just have to deal with though considering the number of members those other two forums have. Obviously Viper's the man with those answers though. (And Viper if you could answer the question as to seemless username/password porting also, it'd be much appreciated.)

One encouraging thing: WolfmannNCSU seems excited about our arrival at least! :lol:

[Fats]

I am honestly going to find it quite hard to stick if the layout of the forums DO look that bad. Bad looks combined with hoards of fanboys is going to be a bit of a shock at first, but I'm sure that myself and others will cope. Everytime you say something to reassure people xbdestroya I tend to worry more! :lol:

[Fooly Cooly]

I prefer the phpBB style and look on the forums.

[KlawHammer]

I do to, well will we be changing forum software by any chance? It seems that the E-mpire forums all use vBulletin.

[Viper]

I do to, well will we be changing forum software by any chance? It seems that the E-mpire forums all use vBulletin.Klaw, yes it's vBulletin 3.07. They are much more powerful, flexible and user friendly than phpBB's however vBulletins cost money and phpBB's don't. This phpBB is pretty much the default layout and skin.


The post bit, user profile data, was moved to the top in vB3.0 and we all hated it at first s well but have gotten used to it rather quickly. As with this poll, we perhaps could make a new poll asking members if they'd prefer to go back to having the post bit data on the left side of the post (called legacy and it's a simple click of the mouse to change). If most wish to go back, we'll go back. In all honesty, I hated it too at first. Hey, we can try and be daring and put the post bit data on the right side of the post. Just remembered something I say a while back. You might be able to designate the post bit in the skin itself because I've seen a forum do that. If that's posible, I'll simply have the D&D team set up your skin that way and we won't even bother with post bits in the top at all.

PSINext threads and posts: Nothing gets lost or deleted. Every post, every thread, every board (aside from those that match a similar type board such as Movies and Music matching the Entertainment board so those will be merged into one board) will make the transistion intact.

Sigs: Sig rule will go back into enforcement. The generous space (in the rule, not as seen by some members sigs) is provided for two reasons. 1. To give them a few lines of themselves or others so you can get a feel of their personality just by the context of their sig. 2. We have a decently sized art base on the forums and may be adding in Shocks art board of 300 artists one day.

Gender icon: Optional. You don't have to fill that in as you can see mine is not. It's simply a vB extra.

UserTitle: Not sure your disdain for it because we have user titles here. Although you can customize yours on vB.

Post count, Username, PW, Avatar, Sig....: Will all transfer. You will still be you.

Layout: As I mentioned, you're getting your own skin. The post bit data will still be in the top but I mentioned before we can poll members for the preference. If enough want it on the left, it will go back to the left. By the way, don't be intimidated by the 10,145 members number. They aren't all active and you as a group will have a large chunk of the members voice.

Fanboys: Many of the members support all consoles and most of the others that are console specific (we have them for all 3 consoles) won't argue with valid points as a fanboy does. They few fanboys we do have will have to face me the second they start acting like an ass. I've made a special usergroup called 'Dumbases' just for people that like to be an ass for the sake of being an ass. They user is restricted from posting and can't edit or alter their own profile and is limited to a single forum to view of my choice. In other words, act like an as, get rewarded like one.

Unification: I prefer this term over merge. It is scheduled to happen this weekend. We will have to shut down as it takes place but with that comes back ups of everythign so if anything goes pear shaped, we reinstall the back ups and lose nothing.

[KnightRiderX]

This SHIT SUCKS. sorry about my language but I can't change how I feel and I'm so pissed off. I feel like I just lost something in me. I feel alienated by the PSiNext Staff. This *used*(with emphasis) to be my second home. Now I can't even bare to look at it. Everything is so cluttered up and not much organization and then the bad color scheme. And also its sooooo ssllloooooowwww.

[Viper]

Not sure how you claim it cluttered because it transitioned as it was, only a few boards were added near the bottom.

The color scheme and deisgn is temporary. We're making a new skin to match the old phpBB look and even moving the postbit back to the left.

It's slow because of all the work the server has had to do today. It will speed back up as the day goes on and if it doesn't get better, we'll, make it get better.

Patience. We have no intention of alienating anyone.

[Metal Sphere]

Not sure how you claim it cluttered because it transitioned as it was, only a few boards were added near the bottom.

The color scheme and deisgn is temporary. We're making a new skin to match the old phpBB look and even moving the postbit back to the left.

It's slow because of all the work the server has had to do today. It will speed back up as the day goes on and if it doesn't get better, we'll, make it get better.

Patience. We have no intention of alienating anyone.

Well, I'm glad this isn't the final skin, because it's downright hideous. I feel like we're a bunch of guys writing on a tombstone at 6 or 7am. I understand the work it'll take to get everything smoothed over, now that the unification has occurred. While I was going to say something about the load times, I'd say you're right.

When I first came on, it was extremely slow, now it's pacing itself but it's still chugging along. If what you said is true, we'll be up to speed in no time, and with a skin and layout superior to this one. As of right now, the only thing that I'm noticing is the low activity levels.

[Mach]

If you guys are so superficial that a decent looking skin really effects your forum posting experience that much you need to rethink your life.

[Metal Sphere]

If you guys are so superficial that a decent looking skin really effects your forum posting experience that much you need to rethink your life.

You can't blame us for not liking the layout. We were on something that looked rather different and it grew on them, just as the Dual Shock design grew on folks over the years, this new layout is as unwelcome to most as that new PS3 controller.

Not to mention Viper had already spoken to us about it, and mentioned something would be done.

[Fats]

You can't blame us for not liking the layout. We were on something that looked rather different and it grew on them, just as the Dual Shock design grew on folks over the years, this new layout is as unwelcome to most as that new PS3 controller.

I agree with you whole heartedly Metal. I'll admit that yes, I could get used to this look overtime but people have to understand that the appearance of where we came from seemed so much better than what it is now. Superficial or not the change of the overall look of the forums is just something that PSInext people will have to get used to.

[Charlie]

This is really slow.

[Blaksmoke]

Oh look. Hundreds of people appearing out of nowhere...

Hello?

[dork]

Hi!i!i!i!

[AntiRealityHero]

So, does anyone have a screenshot of what the PSINext forums used to look like?

I'm rather curious as to what the "before and after" is for you guys.

Oh, and welcome. :)

[Oddyssey]

Look at any stock phpbb skin (subSiver) then imagine add a 300px banner accross the top page.

[SuperLuigiBros]

I dont know what the hell is going on.

I personally would prefer to come to nnow to read/discuss Nintendo stuff, not PS stuff. But oh well. :(

[Viper]

I dont know what the hell is going on.

I personally would prefer to come to nnow to read/discuss Nintendo stuff, not PS stuff. But oh well. :(
Then read and post in the Nintendo boards. They didn't go anywhere.