New rumor from latest EGM: 3 more PS3 exclusives on the way!

[Oda]

The latest issue of EGM (September 2005) includes this little tidbit in their rumor column:

-Although Bioware, iD Software, and Valve have exclusive PS3 games being developed, the three will also be developing for the X360.

Wow! Exclusive titles from 3 of the biggest PC developers? Looks like Sony has a bucket full of announcements just waiting to be unleashed upon the world. The Bioware rumor also jives with Gamespy's rumor awhile back that KOTOR 3 was making the jump to the PS3 exclusively.

EGM doesn't seem to imply that the X360 games will be exclusive either, so might we see even more titles from these 3 devs, albeit multiplatform?!

Exciting stuff if I don't say so myself.

[Raijin]

Holllllllly SHIT!!!!

[Metal Sphere]

Hmm, is it in this month's issue? Could you scan it, because we might have potential naysayers. All in all, these are possible. Sony's really strengthened it's position on the development front and listened to the complaints from developers. This would merely be the result of such actions.

The X360 games going from exclusive to multiplatform is less likely, but still within the range of reason.

Scan please? =D Great job Oda.

[Voidler]

Bioware and Ids (from their comments) seem possible, but an exclusive game from Valve just sounds out of the realms of possibility. A HL2 port, yeah. But an exclusive game from such a PC-centric dev sounds off.

[Z]

why shold it be that strange? Epic and Sony both demonstated how PC friendly PS3 is. Sweeny said most of the Unreal demo was made on PC, then simply ported to PS3.

about exclusives and titles jumping ships or becoming multiplatforms; in every transition alot of surprises happen. there is no telling who will be exclusive to who. just look at some of this gen's surprises at the beginning like:

-Sega pulling the plug on hardware, goes multiplatform!
-Major Sega titles exclusive to Box like Crazy Taxi 3, Jet Set Radio, and others.
-Capcom makes Dino Crises exclusive to Box.
-Oddworld jumps ships from a PS2 exclusive to a Box exclusive.
-Malice Box exclusive (then appearing on PS2. the irony...)
-Tecmo makes DoA a Box exclusive
-EA not supporting Live for a year

for the coming gen, here are somethings that surprised me:
-X2 to have an HDD by default
-Sagaguchi on X2
-RE5 on X2
-PS3's 2x HDMI
-PS3's HDIP camers
-PS3's P2P

and so on and so forth. it gets a little crazy at these times. so anything is possible.
about a PC title exclusive to PS3; I don't know why but Prey jumped to mind. who is making it again?
also, PS3 will be more capable then the top of the line gaming PC, so even the biggest games could be easily ported to PS3 and its enormus BD capacity. major coming hits like F.E.A.R can come to PS3 if the publisher wishes so.

exciting times indeed :)

[Viper]

Exclusive 3rd party title is code speak for "doesn't mean squat".

[agentorange]

Xbucks games most of it will all be ported to Ps3 soon. so if M$ feel that they have great games thos egames will also come to Ps3

[Domination]

Although it's still a rumor at this time, I knew eventually developers would began jumping ship if the PS3 was at least equal in raw performance to the competition. IMO, it's really no surprise since its fan base is huge. It's like I said before, the only real disadvantage it had was it being a weaker console.

[Garfunkel]

yeah but now that it is the strongest console we should get more exlusives

[Illmatic]

Although it's still a rumor at this time, I knew eventually developers would began jumping ship if the PS3 was at least equal in raw performance to the competition. IMO, it's really no surprise since its fan base is huge. It's like I said before, the only real disadvantage it had was it being a weaker console.


But now price could potentially be a big disadvantage, if the price of PS3 is too high, some people would be more likely explore other options, but that would only be a problem for the first year of release imo. Personally i don't think it would be too high, i still think it'll be close to, if not the same price as PS consoles before.

[O.D.S]

i hope your right Vejita, but i do have my doubts about a similar launch price as the other consoles, since yesterday at the Playstation Conference Ken Kutaragi stated something along the lines of "it will be expensive"

ill find the article with the speeches from yesterdays conference for the naysayers

[nemesis121]

Damn EGM is still around, I haven't purchased a game magazine since next gen gaming died, that was the most unbiased mag, mags like gamepro and egm is full crap and very bias.

[Voidler]

i hope your right Vejita, but i do have my doubts about a similar launch price as the other consoles, since yesterday at the Playstation Conference Ken Kutaragi stated something along the lines of "it will be expensive"

ill find the article with the speeches from yesterdays conference for the naysayersOf course it will be, that doesn't mean it will be MORE expensive than X360, just expensive. $299 is expensive aswell. Anyway, all this "high price" leaks is clearly just a marketing ploy so Sony and PS3 look all that much better when they announce a price much lower than everyone expects, just look at all the positive press they got when they did that with PSP (though I don't think it was intentional). I mean come on, why would Kuturagi keep on insisting that it will cost so much? It's clearly not info you'd weant to keep on rubbing into the faces of consumers, as if it were good news. If it were going to cosxt alot, they'd announce it quickly and get over with, like ripping off a band-aid.

It wont cost much, trust me ;)

[woundingchaney]

Of course it will be, that doesn't mean it will be MORE expensive than X360, just expensive. $299 is expensive aswell. Anyway, all this "high price" leaks is clearly just a marketing ploy so Sony and PS3 look all that much better when they announce a price much lower than everyone expects, just look at all the positive press they got when they did that with PSP (though I don't think it was intentional). I mean come on, why would Kuturagi keep on insisting that it will cost so much? It's clearly not info you'd weant to keep on rubbing into the faces of consumers, as if it were good news. If it were going to cosxt alot, they'd announce it quickly and get over with, like ripping off a band-aid.

It wont cost much, trust me ;)


Im willing to bet you see PS3 at 399 and 360 at 299. Yes it will be more expensive but still very reasonable in todays market (especially coupled with the fact that you get a high def player).

[Domination]

But now price could potentially be a big disadvantage, if the price of PS3 is too high, some people would be more likely explore other options, but that would only be a problem for the first year of release imo. Personally i don't think it would be too high, i still think it'll be close to, if not the same price as PS consoles before.

I agree. That's usually the biggest kiicker, but I don't think it'll be as expensive as we think. I still think it'll be around $350 fo competition's sake.

[Domination]

i hope your right Vejita, but i do have my doubts about a similar launch price as the other consoles, since yesterday at the Playstation Conference Ken Kutaragi stated something along the lines of "it will be expensive"

ill find the article with the speeches from yesterdays conference for the naysayers

Ken did say that, but he never said how expensive. Expensive can be the PSP to the DS. Unless he states how expensive the unit will be, the door is still open.

[saxdawg00]

Anything higher than $399.99 will make me actually think twice (then I'd still get it).

[tazz3]

great news indeed.
the PS3 needs more exlusives.
I would pay 399 for the ps3.
i was dumb enough to buy a 399 dollar video card.
so a 399 console is so much better lol

[saxdawg00]

great news indeed.
the PS3 needs more exlusives.
I would pay 399 for the ps3.
i was dumb enough to buy a 399 dollar video card.
so a 399 console is so much better lol

hell yeah, since you put it that way, lol.

[rpgamer_2k5]

Im willing to bet you see PS3 at 399 and 360 at 299. Yes it will be more expensive but still very reasonable in todays market (especially coupled with the fact that you get a high def player).

The only price figures that are actually from Sony (Interview) states that max will be ~40,000 yen (or $359.20) in Japan. If you're going to put so much hope into that Merrill Lynch Japan speculation then we won't be going no where. I doubt that the PS3 will be hitting the $399 price range in Japan let alone North America.

[woundingchaney]

The only price figures that are actually from Sony (Interview) states that max will be ~40,000 yen (or $359.20) in Japan. If you're going to put so much hope into that Merrill Lynch Japan speculation then we won't be going no where. I doubt that the PS3 will be hitting the $399 price range in Japan let alone North America.


Just giving an opinion, by the time of launch I wouldnt doubt it very well could be 399, of course you estimate from Sony's interview isnt that far off from mine. :twitch:

It just depends additional costs and the like as far as that goes it could release for $299 (unlikely but plausable). :twitch:

[Metal Sphere]

Just giving an opinion, by the time of launch I wouldnt doubt it very well could be 399, of course you estimate from Sony's interview isnt that far off from mine. :twitch:

And while it is indeed your opinion, I can't help but notice it's based on combination of the Merrill Lynch price speculation and the cost of the components inside. The price that Sony mentioned to their shareholders is actually almost the same as the price point for the PS2 and PS1 launches. And, as we all know, the price ended up being $299 here in the states. Couple history with Sony's statement about the price in Japan and you can see the chances of it launching at $299 are very high.


It just depends additional costs and the like as far as that goes it could release for $299 (unlikely but plausable). :twitch:

What additional costs are you referring to? Those probably aren't going to make the console cost $399 at launch, that's for sure. As an off-topic comment: people tend to emphasize loss over gain. When something bad is going to or has happened, people moan and complain about it longer than if something good happened and they celebrated it. We have the same situation here.

Oh, and as was mentioned in another forum, Kutaragi's comments are nothing but publicity. It's the same crap Ron Popeil does with his Rotisserie oven or whatever it is. He talks up the machine saying it's a professional tool, extremely expensive etc.. and drops a bomb by saying it's actually cheap. Any one who has seen enough of those will know that the machine is already cheap and they just get people thinking that they're getting a great deal. Kutaragi's doing the same thing.

[woundingchaney]

And while it is indeed your opinion, I can't help but notice it's based on combination of the Merrill Lynch price speculation and the cost of the components inside. The price that Sony mentioned to their shareholders is actually almost the same as the price point for the PS2 and PS1 launches. And, as we all know, the price ended up being $299 here in the states. Couple history with Sony's statement about the price in Japan and you can see the chances of it launching at $299 are very high.



What additional costs are you referring to? Those probably aren't going to make the console cost $399 at launch, that's for sure. As an off-topic comment: people tend to emphasize loss over gain. When something bad is going to or has happened, people moan and complain about it longer than if something good happened and they celebrated it. We have the same situation here.

Oh, and as was mentioned in another forum, Kutaragi's comments are nothing but publicity. It's the same crap Ron Popeil does with his Rotisserie oven or whatever it is. He talks up the machine saying it's a professional tool, extremely expensive etc.. and drops a bomb by saying it's actually cheap. Any one who has seen enough of those will know that the machine is already cheap and they just get people thinking that they're getting a great deal. Kutaragi's doing the same thing.


Not arguing here. All next gen consoles are going to take a hit to get the machine on the shelves, of course the range will vary. I couldnt begin to estimate what costs could be, especially considering bulk material. 399 did come from Merril Lynch estimates not denying that. I still look for the console to cost over 299 the range of 350 - 400 seems the most plausable to me.

MS is estimated to launch at 299 now they are only 4 months (approx) from initial launch without a quotable price statement. Its all speculation. As far as Ron Popeil and Kutaragi comparison, when Kutaragi says its going to be expensive that to me means more expensive than the competition (supposedly), we are reading between the lines here you just get a different outcome than me.

[rpgamer_2k5]

woundingchaney, Kutaraji along with Honda stated that the PS3 will be sold at the same rate as the PS1 and PS2 when released in Japan. If that means North America will be getting a $350 price range is just mere speculation however the Japanese price is not. Moreoever expect Nintendo Revolution to be priced lower than both PS3 and Xbox 360 while gaining profit.

[Metal Sphere]

Not arguing here. All next gen consoles are going to take a hit to get the machine on the shelves, of course the range will vary. I couldnt begin to estimate what costs could be, especially considering bulk material. 399 did come from Merril Lynch estimates not denying that. I still look for the console to cost over 299 the range of 350 - 400 seems the most plausable to me.

This is your opinion of course, I just want to see why you see things that way. Since we can't estimate what what the cost will be, all we have to go by are the past pricing of Sony's consoles, the repeated errors of price analysts in regards to Sony's consoles (and consoles in general) and Sony's statement to shareholders about the price in Japan. When you factor all this in, it's actually very hard to stretch the console's price to 399. I'm sure you can agree with me here in that it's not wise to believe their predictions anymore than it is to believe a fanboy ranting about it only costing $2 at launch.


MS is estimated to launch at 299 now they are only 4 months (approx) from initial launch without a quotable price statement. Its all speculation. As far as Ron Popeil and Kutaragi comparison, when Kutaragi says its going to be expensive that to me means more expensive than the competition (supposedly), we are reading between the lines here you just get a different outcome than me.

Hmm, let's say we take his statement at face value. That means we also should believe his "Xbox 1.5", "supercomputer" and "entertainment center" comments. The man is saying one thing, and the company another. It's better to go with what the company says the price will be than what a raving old man has to say. Think about it...why is only Kutaragi saying it's going to be more expensive and not any other representative? Why isn't Chatani saying anything like this? If anything, he's more qualified to say anything about price.

Sony's producing most if not all of the PS3's parts, their investment in Cell is nowhere near as exaggerated as most make it out to be, and Blu-Ray drives are not as expensive to make as most think. BTW, I'm glad to see you like it here woundingchaney.

[woundingchaney]

woundingchaney, Kutaraji along with Honda stated that the PS3 will be sold at the same rate as the PS1 and PS2 when released in Japan. If that means North America will be getting a $350 price range is just mere speculation however the Japanese price is not. Moreoever expect Nintendo Revolution to be priced lower than both PS3 and Xbox 360 while gaining profit.


Ok the Jap. price is pretty much set then(Im assuming "same rate" means like prices). While the rest of the world is yet to be determined.

GOTCHA

[rpgamer_2k5]

Ok the Jap. price is pretty much set then(Im assuming "same rate" means like prices). While the rest of the world is yet to be determined.

GOTCHA

Bingo.

[woundingchaney]

Hmm, let's say we take his statement at face value. That means we also should believe his "Xbox 1.5", "supercomputer" and "entertainment center" comments. The man is saying one thing, and the company another. It's better to go with what the company says the price will be than what a raving old man has to say. Think about it...why is only Kutaragi saying it's going to be more expensive and not any other representative? Why isn't Chatani saying anything like this? If anything, he's more qualified to say anything about price.

Sony's producing most if not all of the PS3's parts, their investment in Cell is nowhere near as exaggerated as most make it out to be, and Blu-Ray drives are not as expensive to make as most think. BTW, I'm glad to see you like it here woundingchaney.



Well Kutaragi is the most recognizable and often acts as a mouth piece for the company (doent he????). No I really dont believe much the man has to say, when he says its going to be expensive i didnt recognize that to be a 500 dollar launch estimate.
The additional cost was a bit of a mistatement on my part, I was referring to additional periphial packaging, unforeseen production/shipping costs. Of course there is just as much likely hood for these to lower prices (maybe more).
Oh and Im glad that your glad.

[Metal Sphere]

Well Kutaragi is the most recognizable and often acts as a mouth piece for the company (doent he????). No I really dont believe much the man has to say, when he says its going to be expensive i didnt recognize that to be a 500 dollar launch estimate.

Oh and Im glad that your glad.

He's a mouth piece for the SCEI, not the entire company. The man frequently forgets that the Playstation is a global brand, and ends up talking about Japan in his interviews and forgets that the rest of the world is watching and reading. That's why the things that he says are sound outlandish to us, is because most of the time they either are outlandish or merely taken out of context (since he's referring to the Japanese situation most of the time).

And I'm glad, that you're glad that I'm glad. Want a Glad bag?

[woundingchaney]

He's a mouth piece for the SCEI, not the entire company. The man frequently forgets that the Playstation is a global brand, and ends up talking about Japan in his interviews and forgets that the rest of the world is watching and reading. That's why the things that he says are sound outlandish to us, is because most of the time they either are outlandish or merely taken out of context (since he's referring to the Japanese situation most of the time).

And I'm glad, that you're glad that I'm glad. Want a Glad bag?


Well this is SCEI division we are dealing with for the most part. This is almost becoming a typed fencing match.

I recieved my Official PSI NEXT glad bag in the mail yesterday thanks for the offer however (no wonder why Im so damn giddy).

[thedynamite007]

Just giving an opinion, by the time of launch I wouldnt doubt it very well could be 399, of course you estimate from Sony's interview isnt that far off from mine. :twitch:

It just depends additional costs and the like as far as that goes it could release for $299 (unlikely but plausable). :twitch:

the same lauch price of ps2 and thats 399 almost the same. I bet the US sale will be at 299. The lesson here is to study hard if your a student so that you will be rewarded by your parents and if you are laready working work harder and with much dedication so that you will receive promotions and bonuses.

[rev>thanu]

seriously i can careless how much the console cost because i'm still going to buy even if it costs 700- 1000 dollars. what I really care for is how much are the games, online fees and online services are going to cost.

[Domination]

seriously i can careless how much the console cost because i'm still going to buy even if it costs 700- 1000 dollars. what I really care for is how much are the games, online fees and online services are going to cost.

I don't know. That's kinda pushing it. You might buy it, but mainly everyone else would probably hold off on it.

As for Online, Sony said it'll continue being free because they feel the consumers isn't ready yet to start paying a subscrption fee. It was compared to Pay-Per View and cable. It was something said along the lines of cable being more wide spread that its almost required to have in the living room while something like Pay-Per View isn't due to it only being a mock-up of cable. So chances are PlayStation online will be free once again, but a lot more advance if the hints we keep hearing about some of the new features suddenly becomes a reality.

[Junox50]

Does this mean that the Xbox naysayers can shut up about Bioware being a Microsoft owned company?

Sony seems to be on the ball with getting exclusives.

[Domination]

Does this mean that the Xbox naysayers can shut up about Bioware being a Microsoft owned company?

Sony seems to be on the ball with getting exclusives.

Not yet. It's still a rumor.:aim;-]:

[OutlawAdidas]

As of now, Bioware is Xbox 360. ID soft and valve can be anything. Though they are more PC developers, they could just stick with the 360 cuz the 360 is very much like a PC. Though they could also go towards the PS3, touting its power as a reason.

[Z]

don't forget PS3 being PC freindly. Sweeney said most of the Unreal demo was made on PC then simply ported.

[rpgamer_2k5]

Expect many PC developers to jump onto the PS3 bandwagon. PS2 was unattractive because it only supported assembly code. Now since the PS3 can take higher level language, power along with huge potential-fanbase, there is NO reason a PC firm will just stick to Microsoft. As rich as Microsoft is, there is no way they can cover any platinum profits.

[woundingchaney]

Expect many PC developers to jump onto the PS3 bandwagon. PS2 was unattractive because it only supported assembly code. Now since the PS3 can take higher level language, power along with huge potential-fanbase, there is NO reason a PC firm will just stick to Microsoft. As rich as Microsoft is, there is no way they can cover any platinum profits.


http://mrzine.monthlyreview.org/redmond210705.html

I expect pc devs to jump on any bandwagon they can. PC game sales have been declining and they need a larger audience to take their product to. With the power and architecture of next gen consoles their is no reason why they shouldnt use the consoles as a learning and profitable experience.

[woundingchaney]

...

[Z]

also, the fact that PS3 will be more capaple then tha highest PC available, and that it may take around a year for PCs to catch up, I don't see why not support it.

[Cinder]

Exclusive 3rd party title is code speak for "doesn't mean squat".


Yeah ... Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Kingdom Hearts, Onimusha, Devil May Cry, Tekken, Silent Hill 3, Metal Gear Solid 3, and Soul Calibur 3 ... they didn't mean squat.

Right.

[Z]

it is obviouse he didn't mean exclusive 'licenced games'.