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Carlos
05-18-2004, 06:54 AM
Why Nintendo shouldn't be afraid to compete against
PSP with their new DS.

Nintendo was afraid that they would fail with DS,
making it out to be a "make or break" deal for
Nintendo, kinda like throwing a dice in the casino
tables. Hmm...Maybe, Nintendo DS may succeed after
all, because everyone is clamoring "DS! DS! DS!" Well,
it is my pleasure to say that Nintendo SHOULDN'T have
been scared in the first place...because their
company's symbol always starts with....you guessed it:

Innovation.

Nintendo DS is no different in the realm of
innovation, because it has features that were NEVER
used in any kind of gaming handheld. It does borrow
some ideas from some industries...Yes, I'm saying
Nintendo is taking a page from many industries' books.
But, let me start off with how DS is going to topple
Sony's big, bad Playstation Portable, otherwise known
as PSP.

Now, the first thing you're gonna notice is that the
console looks......strange to the casual user, hell,
to anyone, I mean, at first sight, it may look
different...You ask yourself, "what is it?" you
indulge yourself into digging up information on what
it is....and to your suprise, you find
its....Nintendo's handheld. On second thought, you'd
think "hey, that's Nintendo all right." It shouldn't
suprise you on second thought, because Nintendo has
always been known for innovation.

The touch screen idea is a good addition, it may have
a leverage against PSP, because it allows for more
freedom in programming. If you ask me, more developers
will jump on Nintendo's ship, for this feature, why? I
did mention that DS takes pages from some industries,
eh? Does the touch screen seem familiar to you
Windows, PDA, Palm users? Ahhh.....Now you caught my
drift.

Think about it, some programmers will likely be
intrique by the feature, because some companies will
jump on the bandwagon, on developing for DS, what kind
of software, you ask? Think PDA on your DS. With the
Wi-Fi technology already in DS, who can go wrong with
that idea? Another leverage.

On the topic of Wi-Fi, many of you are clamoring "why
Wi-Fi? Didn't Nintendo say that they won't go Online
Gaming?" Funny you should ask that. Anyone pay close
attention to the PDA industry? Cell Phone industry?
Companies are releasing games for the mobile industry.
And its getting popular nowdays. Its so popular, that
any parent that carries a cell phone may be annoyed by
their children's desire to play mini-games on their
cells.

You see, mobile gaming is getting bigger by the day.
More, and more people are buying cell phones, hey, its
not to say that its all because of the games installed
in them, but you should have gotten my point in
bringing up the mindset that a lot of kids play games
on the cell phones. Hey, look at Nokia, they're not
doing so well with Ngage. Now why is this? Because
Ngage isn't very well known, Nokia is known for cell
phones, not for gaming. And, add to the fact that the
handheld (wait, why am I calling it a handheld, its
not even a freakin' handheld! Its a freakin' cell
phone if anyone cares! Yes, sarcasm can be sensed
here.) Hell, I'll go as far as saying that Ngage is
the ugliest thing we've seen since Virtual Boy!

In any case, Nintendo should be glad they included
this feature, because the developers will jump on this
bandwagon of mobile gaming, oh, no, you haven't seen
the whole picture, though! Those companies that
creates mobile games, may jump on Nintendo's ship.
Why!? Because! Its Nintendo!

Profits can be made in Nintendo's market. It'd be
STUPID for those companies NOT to take advantage of
this feature! Those companies who make mobile games
can make a game or two for DS, and make money off
Nintendo, then in return, bring in more casual gamers
or users. No seriously, Nintendo has a lead here. This
feature may expand the mobile gaming industry, no
wait, revolutionize it.

And, how about that second screen? More gameplay
possibilities. Every company that jumps on Nintendo's
side will be able to freely program a game to their
liking! Yes, on the downside, graphics may be
downgraded. But, we're not crying about graphics, are
we? I mean, we don't need graphics to make a console,
let alone, a handheld! PSP may have AWESOME graphics
on their wide-screen. But, you know what they say
about graphics: "Graphics does not make a game"

I think they downgraded the graphics engine, because
they wanted to make the DS much, much easier to
program for.

Here's the downside, though. PSP will take the lead in
the graphics department, because the only reason why
people are going to buy PSP is because of the
graphics. "WOW! PS2 graphics on a small screen!" Now
you catch my drift? No wonder why Sony stopped taking
2D tiltes into their software library. No wonder. Only
well known companies like Capcom and Sammy will be
able to release 2D titles, but the rest, they reject
them. Nintendo will accept all titles, so this is why
companies are jumping on the bandwagon.

Lets not forget the backward compatibility of the DS
with existing GBA/GBASP, and prior GameBoy games. This
is what helped PS2 take the lead. DS has the lead in
this area, kudos to Nintendo for taking notes.

So, this is how Nintendo plans to have ALL three
handheld co-exist. Well, there goes another word of
wisdom: "Word spreads around faster than you can blink
an eye." What I am simply saying here, is that Word
gets around. Any GBA owner, or GBASP owner will buy
DS, and this is the market Nintendo will profit from.
In addition to the insanely LARGE fanbase of Nintendo
products. GameCube users or prior may buy DS as well.

Speaking of DS' design, doesn't it occur to anyone
that it feels like Nintendo's roots has been reborn?
Look at the design very carefully, look at NES'
controller. Ahhh....Now you just noticed it, eh? This
design may be attractive to the VERY first Nintendo
owners. Gamers like myself, who owns every single
Nintendo console (Virtual Boy isn't included, here)
will be attracted to DS because it retains the old
feel of the original consoles, and lets not forget the
most complained feedback: Two buttons. SNES' six
button layout makes its triumphant return. And, yes,
I'm counting the L, and R buttons. This is why DS will
attract disapointed Nintendo fans. These are the
reasons why Nintendo will retain its glory it once
did.

By Carlos X

PhoenixBlade
05-18-2004, 11:22 AM
I read this on GCA...good job Carlos.

Generic Wheaties
05-18-2004, 09:59 PM
I have too many gameboys. I have the original, pocket, color, SP, i'm gonna go for somthing new. PSP has all a lot of developers backing it up, great graphics, mp3 player, dvd player (ff7 advent children). PSP looks like it'll be entertaining me for a while.

Asarien
05-19-2004, 02:36 PM
No, this is all wrong.

The Nintendo DS is not to compete with the PSP. Both Nintendo and Sony made this clear multiple times.

Karavi
05-19-2004, 03:35 PM
Nintendo doesn't need to compete.. I'm sure though that Sony has that mindset, despite what they say.

Wimbien
05-19-2004, 04:08 PM
Nintentdo wont be able to compete in my opinion. They arent the battling kind anymore. They lost the console wars to xbox and playstation.

Generic Wheaties
05-20-2004, 12:53 AM
All companies say their not gonna compete, but in the end its the consumers who decide that with topics like that, fanboys, etc...

Robobald
05-21-2004, 08:35 PM
Dude Gamecube has sold more systems than xbox and ps2 combined so mostly i think DS is gonna lead for a while but when psp comes, its gone all 3 of them gba,sp and ds.

Generic Wheaties
05-22-2004, 01:29 AM
^^^ Wtf? Dude, no. PS2 haas sold the most consoles, gamecube second, xbox last.

Moses
05-22-2004, 03:31 AM
i getting a bad vibe from both. i feel they are going to bomb because no one wants to pay god knows what for a tricked out game boy. and if they dont flop, the world will officaly suck.

Pats
05-22-2004, 05:36 AM
Dude Gamecube has sold more systems than xbox and ps2 combined so mostly i think DS is gonna lead for a while but when psp comes, its gone all 3 of them gba,sp and ds.

What the hell have you been reading??

Asarien
05-22-2004, 10:09 PM
I think he meant GameBoy. Or so I hope.

Johnny
08-24-2004, 11:08 PM
DS would be my pick. Not for the 2 screens, but because discs for a handheld is the stupidest idea ever. Discs break more easily and can get scratched, so forget keeping your games in your pocket. Also, since this genius idea requires a laser device, the battery life goes down the shitter. And the fact that you can now watch movies is no big deal to me, you can get episodes of spongebob for your GBA, so DS could possibly play movies as well.

And uh.. off topic, but Asarien, your sig has the definition of "murder" and not "murderer"

dementia
08-25-2004, 01:19 AM
If I had to choose, I'd pick the DS.

PSP seems to be needlessly adding technology, (Universal Media Disk? How is it universal if it only works on Sony products?) which will drive up the price, and reduce battery life.

The DS is squarely focused on games and less so on watching music videos of bands and artists signed to Sony music. And while most developers will be copping out and using the second screen for just maps and menus, Nintendo will continue it's excellent 1st party support, as it always has.


But there is no way in hell I want 3D in my handheld. I'm sticking to my GBA SP.

Asarien
08-25-2004, 08:49 PM
Have you seen the final hardware design on the DS? It is much more sleek and streamlined to today's standards. Asarien is very happy with the design. Very happy he is, indeed.

Nintendo DS (http://www.nintendo.com/newsarticle?articleid=02f73c08-f36d-403c-a017-ab1dc6fab277)

Generic Wheaties
08-25-2004, 08:53 PM
Sure the DS is innovative, but it has no games I'd be into. Making pacman and make it eat the ghosts? WTF? That'll be fun for 10 minutes. PSP has a huge library of games what would be mindblowing to play anywhere.

Pats
08-25-2004, 09:38 PM
I'll stick to my Gamegear.

johnnyBgood
08-26-2004, 07:54 PM
Nintendo lost the console wars back when it was still just Nintendo and Sony with a dash of Sega.

but for me, I'm gonna just stray away from both because I don't think anything really good will come from either..

Ihsiin
08-26-2004, 08:19 PM
Both are likely to be grossly over priced. I refuse to spend anymore than £40 on a portable system.

Asarien
08-26-2004, 08:35 PM
Sure the DS is innovative, but it has no games I'd be into. Making pacman and make it eat the ghosts? WTF? That'll be fun for 10 minutes. PSP has a huge library of games what would be mindblowing to play anywhere.

Just so you know, the DS has over 100 developers working on over 120 titles this very instant.

m1k
08-26-2004, 08:38 PM
OMFGWTFBBQ~!~!!#E@@$

Asarien's back! STAY BITCH!

I might get the PSP.

gookian
08-27-2004, 07:43 PM
Who's the fewl that said DS has the innovation? WTF? Nintendo used the same double screen handheld YEARS back. New innovation my ass. Only thing that changed from that retro handheld and DS ins the touch sensitive screen, which I don't think will effect much on games and console's playability.

PSP supposedly has crappy battery life compared to other handhelds, but you can't blame them, the graphics and sooo good and sooo smooth on the PSP. But low batterylife is a downfall considering that it's a handheld, which is meant to be played on go. In battery life, DS wins.

Games. Launch games are alot better on PSP than DS. DS has few games that catch MY interest. Viewtiful Joe (though it is not a launch title) is one of the few, very few. The new mario game is not going to be so good, why? Because the concept is retarded. PSP has some of the best games seen on handheld. MGS:Acid (new concept with cards, but everyone seems to hate it. Everyone hated PSO:CARDS, but it did well, and I expect the same from MGS:Acid). Ys Vi (I was waiting forever for this series to come to English gaming world, so has many other gamers). There are a lot more to list for PSP but that would take too long.

GC haven't sold as much as PS2. And Only reason XBOX is losing to GC is because Japanese people don't like XBOX because it's white (Bill Gates). In North America XBOX has sold more consoles than GC (thanks to the perfect internet gaming community/service called XBOX LIVE!). So in North America Sales Ranking go as so. PS2, XBOX, GC. This was off topic sorry about that.

Johnny: Discs for portable electronics? Um...heard of CD players? MD players etc...? Did you see the size of the PSP discs? It's like a MD, without the plastic outer cover. Same technology would be used to prevent scratches. But battery life will be crap due to the disc reading tech (as you said)

Design seems to be on a lot of people's minds. DS = Wider GBA SP with extra screen. PSP = not foldable, screen can be easily damaged... So both have flaws.

Overall, PSP will dominate the older gamer's section, while DS will be more teens and younger generations of gamers. I can be wrong though, but it seems like the case regarding what type of games will be released for each console. I am getting PSP.

Moses
08-28-2004, 05:59 PM
neither sound very good. who wants to pay to play old PS1 games, or 500 Pokemon games? not I. my GB advance is the last handheld i buy for a while.

gookian
08-29-2004, 06:27 PM
One of the "games" that really makes me want to get PSP is Final Fantasy 7: Advent Children. I really hope it's not true that it will be only released for handheld, but it might be. I really want it as DVD so I can watch it on my tv. But if not I will definately get PSP for FF7:AC

Pats
08-29-2004, 06:49 PM
Why did you put games in quotations?

dementia
08-29-2004, 07:12 PM
because Advent Children is a movie.