New Technology From Rambus To Power PS3 Hardware!!

[DLX]

http://www.gamers.com/news/1295180


By: Alex Fraioli January 9, 2003 11:19 AM PST


"It's been known for a while now that Sony's next PlayStation will most likely utilize the upcoming Cell processor (whose design was a collaborative effort between Sony, IBM, and Toshiba), but new information has recently surfaced concerning the Cell's support team: the Yellowstone and Redwood chips.
Developed by chip veteran Rambus, these two new chips are specifically designed to interface with and maximize the performance of the high-speed Cell. The result of a deal between Sony, Toshiba, and Rambus, Yellowstone will be responsible for connecting memory to microprocessors, while Redwood will handle chip-to-chip connections. When these little guys join forces with the Cell processor, data can be transferred throughout the machine at unbelievably fast rates, up to 100 GB/sec.

Ken Kutaragi, CEO of Sony Computer Entertainment and father of the PlayStation said, "Rambus is, and will be the key player in ultra high-speed interface technology. This enables us to create a wide range of applications and platforms, from high-end systems to digital consumer-electronics products within Sony."

Sony can implement the chip in as many products as it likes, but we know where it will be put to best use."

PS3 is going to destroy the World Baby!!! Cant wait, Funny thing is it will probably be the weakest of the next generation Consoles as always and still pull of The Big Win.

Source: Gamers.com

[Tendotroid]

Too bad it will be released first and then GCN 2 and XBOX 2 technology will be better when they are released. Just like whats happening now.

[Future Starlocke]

Originally posted by Tendotroid
Too bad it will be released first and then GCN 2 and XBOX 2 technology will be better when they are released. Just like whats happening now.


Uh... shut up.

That is some damned high powered equipment there. It will cost quite a pretty penny as well... just looking at the list of brand new technologies being developed and the developing costs on its own... something like cell technology is VERY intricate and can't be mass manufactured as simply as we can stomp a chip today.

Playstation 3's outlook is making me horny, and if it's backwards compatible with PS2 and PSOne games, I might skip the PS2 altogether. Unless of course, the PS3 carries an immense price tag.

Just running it down I'd have to say at current market prices, PS3 would be a $500+ system... but who knows what the market will look like in 2006...

[Tendotroid]

Originally posted by Future Starlocke



Uh... shut up.

That is some damned high powered equipment there. It will cost quite a pretty penny as well... just looking at the list of brand new technologies being developed and the developing costs on its own... something like cell technology is VERY intricate and can't be mass manufactured as simply as we can stomp a chip today.

Playstation 3's outlook is making me horny, and if it's backwards compatible with PS2 and PSOne games, I might skip the PS2 altogether. Unless of course, the PS3 carries an immense price tag.

Just running it down I'd have to say at current market prices, PS3 would be a $500+ system... but who knows what the market will look like in 2006...

WTHECK?? This is exactly what people said when they heard what PS2 could do. Now look. GCN and XBOX outpower PS2 in so many categories.

[Future Starlocke]

Originally posted by Tendotroid


WTHECK?? This is exactly what people said when they heard what PS2 could do. Now look. GCN and XBOX outpower PS2 in so many categories.


I remember saying "This looks like the regular Playstation... just more polygons".

The games still looked as grainy and aliased as ever to me.

Understand though that this Cell stuff = Many processors put into a single processor. It's not just one supercharged chip, it's many little units doing the same workload each that a single big unit can do.

Oh, and don't think Nintendo will slouch. I speak on behalf of the playstation line... I will favor the PS3 over the PS2.

Gamecube will be one of those systems I hang on to for a long while... unless the next nintendo box comes out with backwards compatibility.

[DLX]

Originally posted by Future Starlocke

Just running it down I'd have to say at current market prices, PS3 would be a $500+ system... but who knows what the market will look like in 2006...

Id have to predict the Price to stay at a convenient 300$ max at launch time. Keep in Mind PS2 was expected to be sold at 500$ as well, but it never happened.

[Batmanuel]

isnt crap-box 2 going to come out b4 ps3

[Dark_Cloud]

ps2 sold way more than all the other systems combined. Who cares if nintendo and x-box have better technology, no one seems to care.

Any why ya gotta go makin fun of x-box all the time. Does your console have so low self esteme that you have to diss other consoles to make it feel better?

and i think that you all should have learned from x-box that better hardwere doesnt mean its better.

[Tendotroid]

Psss If the nex gen consoles are 500 dollars i will kill myself. That is such a fucking rip that its not even funny. NOONE could afford a 500 dollar ps3 for xmas. they would have to combine there bday + XMAS+ 100 more dollars just to buy it....unless your a richy.....man i remember back in the day when you got a free game w/ your system. And it was always a hit game too.

[Virtual]

like dark cloud said, better hardware doesn't mean better games. Just like right now, Xbox = having the shittiest games. xbox = most powerful = makes no difference. The PS3 is gonna be sweet, that'd be awesome if it did have backwards compatibility. Also sounds like it's gonna be powerful, that's always a plus.

[Michael Bluth]

Originally posted by Virtual
like dark cloud said, better hardware doesn't mean better games. Just like right now, Xbox = having the shittiest games. xbox = most powerful = makes no difference. The PS3 is gonna be sweet, that'd be awesome if it did have backwards compatibility. Also sounds like it's gonna be powerful, that's always a plus.

It's all a matter of opinion. Once Rockstar's contract with Sony ends, and people see that Grand Theft Auto can look a lot better, PLAY a lot better, and do more things on a different system, hopefully they'll stop being Sony droids whom only think that "Madden" and "GTA" are the only games ever created.

[Dark_Cloud]

GTA=best action game
Madden= best sports game

need i say more?

[Michael Bluth]

Originally posted by Dark_Cloud
GTA=best action game
Madden= best sports game

need i say more?

The casual gamer tends to think so, yes.

[Virtual]

can look a lot better, PLAY a lot better, and do more things on a different system, hopefully they'll stop being Sony droids whom only think that "Madden" and "GTA" are the only games ever created.

ahahhahahhhhahhahaa, did you not read any of this thread? That's what this WHOLE thread is about, Sony PS3 being the best. LMAO!

[Michael Bluth]

Originally posted by Virtual


ahahhahahhhhahhahaa, did you not read any of this thread? That's what this WHOLE thread is about, Sony PS3 being the best. LMAO!

And will the PS3 be out in 2004? No, it won't. Will Microsoft and Nintendo have better looking systems? You can bet your bottom dollar they will. Sony will always be last place when it comes to advancements.

[DLX]

I already stated that in this thread, But as always Sony will win the wars, by a long shot, just as it always has and always will continue, untill Nitendo regains its lost glory.

[Virtual]

Originally posted by Phantagram


And will the PS3 be out in 2004? No, it won't. Will Microsoft and Nintendo have better looking systems? You can bet your bottom dollar they will. Sony will always be last place when it comes to advancements.
news flash, best hardware doesn't always = best. Who's to say the PS3 won't have the largest userbase when it comes out? How do you know it's gonna be least powerful? Oh wait, you don't.

I seriously doubt Rockstar and Take Two would "switch" systems, you know, considering how WELL there games sold on the PS2. Besides, why the fuck should you care anyway? you keep sayin' it's a rehash!

Maybe should pull your head out of your ass and see the light-- instead of acting like a fanboy!

[Michael Bluth]

Originally posted by Virtual

news flash, best hardware doesn't always = best. Who's to say the PS3 won't have the largest userbase when it comes out? How do you know it's gonna be least powerful? Oh wait, you don't.

I seriously doubt Rockstar and Take Two would "switch" systems, you know, considering how WELL there games sold on the PS2. Besides, why the fuck should you care anyway? you keep sayin' it's a rehash!

Maybe should pull your head out of your ass and see the light-- instead of acting like a fanboy!

I'm the fanboy? You obviously havn't been reading very many of your posts on any other forums. You're 10x worse than I am. And you're not even correct, half the time. The PS3 will probably have the largest userbase when it comes out, because people are morons. Oh yeah, I also seriously doubt Rare would switch systems. That would NEVER happen. Whoops. And Vice City is a rehash, that doesn't mean the other ones will be, smart guy. :rolleyes:

[Virtual]

Originally posted by Phantagram


I'm the fanboy? You obviously havn't been reading very many of your posts on any other forums. You're 10x worse than I am. And you're not even correct, half the time. The PS3 will probably have the largest userbase when it comes out, because people are morons. Oh yeah, I also seriously doubt Rare would switch systems. That would NEVER happen. Whoops. And Vice City is a rehash, that doesn't mean the other ones will be, smart guy. :rolleyes:
I'm not a fanboy here, so that's all that matters. Those other forums, I'm just fucking around.

The PS3 will probably have the largest userbase when it comes out, because people are morons.

Why? Because people like games? Doesn't sound very "moronic" to me.

Rare, well, you know the issue about the 49% ownership and all that shit. Besides, Rare wasn't the greatest on GameCube anyway.

Vice City is NOT a rehash, I repeat NOT a rehash. Is it similar, yes. Too bad you never played it long enough to understand the story, characters, the city itself, weapons, and vehicles. You just took one look at the gameplay and said "REHASH!" ---sounds kinda biased, doesn't it?

[Michael Bluth]

Originally posted by Virtual
Why? Because people like games? Doesn't sound very "moronic" to me.

No, because the PS2 is the "cool" system to own.

Rare, well, you know the issue about the 49% ownership and all that shit. Besides, Rare wasn't the greatest on GameCube anyway.

No they weren't, as I've never liked Star Fox games. But they are truely gifted developers, some of the best in the business.

Vice City is NOT a rehash, I repeat NOT a rehash. Is it similar, yes. Too bad you never played it long enough to understand the story, characters, the city itself, weapons, and vehicles. You just took one look at the gameplay and said "REHASH!" ---sounds kinda biased, doesn't it?

Took one look? I've played it a couple times. Guess what? I don't find Splinter Cell all that great, but I do see why people like it. Just not my cup 'o tea.

[Virtual]

Originally posted by Phantagram


No, because the PS2 is the "cool" system to own.



Alright now, you see, you're wrong. Maybe if you owned one you would understand. It's awesome when you can go to a video game store and see a whole bunch of games that you would love to buy. Then you look over at the xbox and gc game selections and find out that you only want 1 or 2 games for that certain system. PS2 also have some legendary games that are very awesome. Xbox, well, it's got one, called Halo.

Some ppl buy PS2 to be "cool" but a lot people don't, it just that ps2 has a lot more games and genres to choose from. It fits most peoples needs when it comes to which genres you like.

Like you said, the system of choice is always in the eye of the beholder. It's just that the PS2 is in the eye of most of the beholders. Don't be pissed just because it's not in yours.

[DLX]

True, Youre bashing PS2, Without any ground to back it up, Give it up Phantagram, Bashing Ps2 is the stupidest thing i have ever heard...Ill bet any money you dont even have one.

[DLX]

in the end its all anout games not hardware, and Software is what PS2 excels at.

[Michael Bluth]

Originally posted by Virtual
Alright now, you see, you're wrong. Maybe if you owned one you would understand. It's awesome when you can go to a video game store and see a whole bunch of games that you would love to buy. Then you look over at the xbox and gc game selections and find out that you only want 1 or 2 games for that certain system. PS2 also have some legendary games that are very awesome. Xbox, well, it's got one, called Halo.

Yet again, then why does the XBox has the highest percentage of games per systems sold? People aren't buying 4 copies of Halo. When I go into a store and look at the PS2 section, the only game I want is Ratchet and Clank. The rest, for the most part, is absolute crap. When I go to the GCN section, I want Super Smash Brothers, Animal Crossing, Eternal Darkness, and a couple others. A couple good games, but some other games I wouldn't like at all (Disney sports). When I go to the XBox section, I'm in FPS and action heaven.

Some ppl buy PS2 to be "cool" but a lot people don't, it just that ps2 has a lot more games and genres to choose from. It fits most peoples needs when it comes to which genres you like.

It also has quite a few horrible, horrible games. You say Bruce Lee and Kabuki Warriors, I say The Bouncer and the fifty Army Men games. And I like action and FPS games - a genre that is severly lacking on the PS2. Don't believe me? Compare the PS2 version of Medal of Honor: Frontline to that of the GameCube/XBox. They make the PS2 version seem virtually unplayable. And only two controller ports? I think not.

Like you said, the system of choice is always in the eye of the beholder. It's just that the PS2 is in the eye of most of the beholders. Don't be pissed just because it's not in yours.

The PS2 is in the eye of, in my personal opinion, the uninformed and those wanting to fit in with the "cool" or "mainstream" MTV crowd. And it sickens me.


True, Youre bashing PS2, Without any ground to back it up, Give it up Phantagram, Bashing Ps2 is the stupidest thing i have ever heard...Ill bet any money you dont even have one.

Without any ground? How about the incredibly inferior graphics and sound? The ageing hardware? The vast selection of crap games and tiny selection of good games? The need to buy a multitap to play 4-player games? The lack of 4-player games? The need to buy the broadband adapter? The incredibly shitty online service? The need to buy memory cards? The incredibly ignorant fanboys (one of which happens to be posting in this thread......... and I also happen to have quoted him about you)?

There are many things to not like about the PS2. I do not like RPGs - the genre the PS2 is known for. Yes, I will admit the PS2 excels with it comes to RPGs; but that's it.

[DLX]

Well thats your opinion, but its completely false, Just because its the less powerfull doesnt mean its the worst... as i said before, Software is what counts, and PS2 has plenty of it. What you Like or Dont Like is your buiseness, but its completely Ignorant to bash ps2, as its whooping your little Xbox's ass right now. PS2 has First Person Shooters, It Has RPG's, It Has Action Adventure Games, It Has Puzzle Games, It has Fighting games, virtually everything you would ever want is on the PS2, And I dont see how the vast majority of Gamers are stupid just because they enjoy a good variety of Games. You Have no right to call anyone stupid based on what they choose, who do you think you are?? I Hope you get burnt at a stake.

[DLX]

You Choose Xbox because it has an abundance of games that you like, it doesnt mean you have the right to go around bashing other gamers because they chose a system with an abundance of games they like.

[Michael Bluth]

Originally posted by DarkLink-xXx
You Choose Xbox because it has an abundance of games that you like, it doesnt mean you have the right to go around bashing other gamers because they chose a system with an abundance of games they like.

Yeah, uh, isn't that the EXACT same thing that you and Virtual are doing?

[DLX]

Yes, But the diffrence beetween me and you is you just Bashes million of gamners and im only bashing you because your blatantly stupid.

[Michael Bluth]

Originally posted by DarkLink-xXx
Yes, But the diffrence beetween me and you is you just Bashes million of gamners and im only bashing you because your blatantly stupid.

Okay, so let's get this straight:

- When you bash the XBox, even though you don't say it, you are only bashing me
- When I bash the PS2, I am bashing everybody that owns one; millions of 'gamners'


Right. So that makes perfectly good sense.

[DLX]

I Guess Im Goinmg to have to quote your exact words:

Originally posted by Phantagram


I'm the fanboy? You obviously havn't been reading very many of your posts on any other forums. You're 10x worse than I am. And you're not even correct, half the time. The PS3 will probably have the largest userbase when it comes out, because people are morons. Oh yeah, I also seriously doubt Rare would switch systems. That would NEVER happen. Whoops. And Vice City is a rehash, that doesn't mean the other ones will be, smart guy. :rolleyes:



So Millions of Gamers aremorons because they Play and Own a Playsation(Insert Number)??

When I Bash The Xbox, I never mention the people who play it, i just mention my personal reasons for not liking the system, and i occassionaly thrown out an insult just to piss you off.

[Michael Bluth]

I own a Playstation. I did not continue on with the evolution of the system because I know there are bigger and better things. And yes, you will find out later in life that people are morons for many reasons. That's just one. Maybe in 9th grade or so you'll learn it.

[DLX]

Yes many people are mrorns, but by Playing a certain system they like doesnt make them morons. As for the ninth grade comment, as i said its just a way for you to mementarily change the subject, but you see you dont piss me off because im more mature than you will ever be, thats why i can play with you all day any day(Like today) for hours at end and have a good amusing time Pissing you off..Ohh Life is good.

[Michael Bluth]

Damn, caught me again. Do you have your Big 3 spies watching me now?

[DLX]

ok buddy whatever you say.

[Dark_Cloud]

man, you guys fight alot. Think of the children, Wont somebody please think of the children!!!!!

[Michael Bluth]

But I do think of DarkLink. Okay, so I don't.

[=NukeBlaze=]

I believe that they wil have to think over there choice for RAMBUS technology right now. Rambus is struggling right now. When the Dual DDR-SDRAM setups hit the shelf thier companies worth is going down the crapper. You also forget about DDR-2-SDRAM which will be comming out in a year or so. As well, ATI developed a hyperFast type of graphicsal RAM which will be supported by NVIDIA as well. I doubt that RAMBUS will be used in the furture because of cost of thier equiptment...And that fact they might not be around by the time manufacturing starts on the PS3.

Rambus you have served Pentium 4s well with your RAM matching the FRont Side Bus..Though it looks like the royalty free DDR set up is looking more promising.

[Dark_Cloud]

Originally posted by =NukeBlaze=
I believe that they wil have to think over there choice for RAMBUS technology right now. Rambus is struggling right now. When the Dual DDR-SDRAM setups hit the shelf thier companies worth is going down the crapper. You also forget about DDR-2-SDRAM which will be comming out in a year or so. As well, ATI developed a hyperFast type of graphicsal RAM which will be supported by NVIDIA as well. I doubt that RAMBUS will be used in the furture because of cost of thier equiptment...And that fact they might not be around by the time manufacturing starts on the PS3.

Rambus you have served Pentium 4s well with your RAM matching the FRont Side Bus..Though it looks like the royalty free DDR set up is looking more promising.

holy shit.

somebody actualy said something that was on the subject. And it wasnt insulting anyone. What is the world coming to?

[JackieChanIsGOD]

I'm just happy that N will have some nice support for the next-next-gen system... NEC will be making the processor i believe and they just made the fastest supercomputer in the world... so i'm sure they can cook up something nice for N... and I hope ATi will still be working with N... i love ATi.