View Full Version : War On Drugs...my ass
Gunpei
08-23-2004, 02:09 AM
http://blogs.salon.com/0002762/stories/2003/08/17/drugWarVictims.html
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That is so fucking sad. I cant believe how much of a fucking waste the war on drugs is. The government is never going to win so why the hell dont they stop murdering innocent citizens and stop putting people in jail for victimless crimes. I thought people would realise by now that most people who sell drugs are not ghetto neiggers from the hood who will rape your mother, rob you, and or kill you if they dont like you.
gookian
08-23-2004, 02:17 AM
It's the police/SWAT people that are to blame. Why should the government stop war on drugs? Once they let go of the situation drug outbreak will follow. I just think that police and drug raids should be based on more reliable evidence. And they should stop shooting everything in site of the "supposedly" drug farms etc...Government should continue to fight drugs however, just better plan and decipline the people raiding blah blah blah.
Gunpei
08-23-2004, 02:38 AM
The Government should stop the war on drugs because it is war that cannot be won and is hurting people more then it is helping.
Bombardier
08-23-2004, 02:40 AM
The Government should stop the war on drugs because it is war that cannot be won and is hurting people more then it is helping.
How do you know?
Klittlet
08-23-2004, 02:58 AM
You guys watch to much t.v. cops arn't just breaking in to houses shooting up the place and saying oops we fuck up. They have to investigate and actually have to see the drug in most cases to even make an arrest. The times they don't see the drugs they usually have probable cause. Like when someone sees the cops and just starts runnig the are obviously hideing something. Maybe instead of watching movies maybe you should watch the show cops. I am a criminal justice major in college and this is one thing I do know.
Gunpei
08-23-2004, 03:05 AM
You guys watch to much t.v. cops arn't just breaking in to houses shooting up the place and saying oops we fuck up. They have to investigate and actually have to see the drug in most cases to even make an arrest. The times they don't see the drugs they usually have probable cause. Like when someone sees the cops and just starts runnig the are obviously hideing something. Maybe instead of watching movies maybe you should watch the show cops. I am a criminal justice major in college and this is one thing I do know.
hahaha i fell bad for you
you fall into the everday persons knowledge of how cops do things. Cops and the FBI dont give a fuck if they dont have a warrant. They illegally search people, cars, and sometimes houses with little or no reason to do so all the fucking time.
Bombardier
08-23-2004, 03:10 AM
You didn't answer my question.
Ihsiin
08-23-2004, 03:13 AM
Most wars are a waste.
Klittlet
08-23-2004, 03:20 AM
You go right ahead and believe that num nuts. Most cops do their jobs correctly their are few bad ones. The ones that screw it up do give the rest of us a bad name. If they ever get caught entering a house or a car without a warrent they will be given their just desserts. Why I even talking to you about this matter is way beyond me. Maybe I was wrong about video game in the other thread obviously you do believe everything you see on T.V.
Generic Wheaties
08-23-2004, 04:59 AM
Gunpei, don't listen to Killiet, hes a fucking narrowminded redneck.
Klittlet
08-23-2004, 06:53 AM
Gunpei, don't listen to Killiet, hes a fucking narrowminded redneck.
I am proud of being a redneck all the word redneck means a man that works for a living. Better than being a left wing dousch bag like you. My parents taught me morals and values. to bad more parents don't. The only thing people care about these days is when the are going to get high next or what are the going to screw next thats kind of funny calling me narrow minded when all you can do is think about getting high what a waste like I said if this is so important to you than you've already proved my point.
Ihsiin
08-23-2004, 01:17 PM
Saying that that's all people care about is in itself narrowminded.
My parents taught me morals and values. to bad more parents don't.
WTF? Of course our parents taught us morals, like how to treat people who are different from yourself. Your parents must have skipped that one.
The only thing people care about these days is when the are going to get high next or what are the going to screw next thats kind of funny calling me narrow minded when all you can do is think about getting high.
Who says any of us do drugs? Who says any of us have sex? Even if we do either of those, does it discredit us, does it make our points invalid? I think not. In fact if I smoked crack every day, I'm pretty sure I would still be smarter than you.
Cocoa Christ
08-23-2004, 06:06 PM
Twenty twenty twenty four hours to go, I wanna be sedated.
Nothing to do, nowhere to go, oh, I wanna be sedated
Just get me to the airport, put me on a plane,
hurry hurry hurry, before I go insane,
I can't control my fingers, I can't control my brain,
oh oh oh oh oh
Generic Wheaties
08-23-2004, 06:44 PM
I am proud of being a redneck all the word redneck means a man that works for a living. Better than being a left wing dousch bag like you. My parents taught me morals and values. to bad more parents don't. The only thing people care about these days is when the are going to get high next or what are the going to screw next thats kind of funny calling me narrow minded when all you can do is think about getting high what a waste like I said if this is so important to you than you've already proved my point.
All I can do is think about getting high? Yeah right, i've turned down so many joints you wouldn't beleive. Quit saying shit about stuff you don't know about. And you've just proven me right about you being narrowminded.
Klittlet
08-23-2004, 08:44 PM
I'll stay narrow minded just because people say something is good or hip doesn't mean i'm going to try it. My parents taught me morals which means don't be a sexual pervert. Don't always follow the croud don't do things just because some mindless jackass says its cool.It had nouthing to do with being nice to gays but my parents did teachme to be respectful to all people which I do I have never called a queer person to their face I never intentionaly hurt any one not to mention I have known some gay people I wouldn't nessasarily say they were my friends but good acquaintance I also have friends that smoke pot they all know how I feel about it and the have enough respet not to do their crap infront of me. Not to mention al the dope smokers I know either don't have a job or the work off and on because they don't have the attention span god gave a dog. The last thing I have to say is if you don't have sex or smoke dope than shut up you have nouthing to add. I no more in my little finger than you know in your whole body about criminal justice I will finishing up my associates this fall.
Generic Wheaties
08-23-2004, 08:48 PM
Its a shame your parents didn't tell you to stay in school. Looks like you need some help with spelling.
Klittlet
08-23-2004, 09:21 PM
Is that the best you got you little immature little prick. Yes my spelling sucks but thats not what this threads about. So as far as saying i'm stupid your way off base. I carry a 3.5 grade point average im college. I am much better at other things like debate like right here I said something and instead of comeing back with something intelligent to say you mock my spelling in a real debate I would have been declaired the winner because I can stick to the subject without name calling or mocking other peoples short comeings. So tell me can you add to this conversation intelligantly or do you want to call me a doody head. You loose.
gookian
08-23-2004, 09:23 PM
They should stop war against drugs becuase they are not going to win? Yeah but as soon as the legal forces stop acting against drug trafficing, there will be an drug outbreak everywhere. It may be true that we will never win such war against drugs (but who knows for sure) it still keeps drug abuse at bay, at least enough to prevent an outbreak. That is good enough of reason to keep the war stading strong.
Bombardier
08-23-2004, 09:26 PM
Is that the best you got you little immature little prick. Yes my spelling sucks but thats not what this threads about. So as far as saying i'm stupid your way off base. I carry a 3.5 grade point average im college.
Wait, hold up. You're in college and you can't spell "crowd?"
Don't always follow the croud don't do things just because some mindless jackass says its cool.
Gunpei
08-23-2004, 10:46 PM
How do you know?
Because the war has been going on for more then 70 years and drug use has not slowed down.
Bombardier
08-23-2004, 11:27 PM
Did you ever think that maybe it would be alot worse had the "war" not started?
my parents did teachme to be respectful to all people which I do I have never called a queer person to their face I never intentionaly hurt any one
You told me that "faggots" are ruining the world. Do you really think that's not offensive? Not only are you using the most offensive word you could possibly use to describe me, but you are telling me that it is MY FUCKING FAULT FOR THE WORLDS STATE. NO, IT'S NOT MY FUCKING FAULT, IT'S THE FAULT OF FUCKING MORONS WHO THINK THEY KNOW WHAT THE FUCK THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. Shut the fuck up and go away.
D3adcell
08-24-2004, 02:10 AM
you fall into the everday persons knowledge of how cops do things. Cops and the FBI dont give a fuck if they dont have a warrant. They illegally search people, cars, and sometimes houses with little or no reason to do so all the fucking time.
You actually think cops do that? They just go into a house illegally without a search warrant and find drugs? If they came into my house right now without a search warrant, found illegal drugs, illegal weapons, nukes, child pornography, anything. They could not do shit. They could take me to court, but the fruits of an illegal search are rotten. Meaning they can not punish you if they find something in your house that they did not have a search warrant for. Even if they do have a search warrant it has to say what they are looking for and were they are going to look. They cant just tear ur house apart.
You ever heard of the Map Vs Ohio case? Were some cops got a search warrant to check this lady's garage out becuase they thought she was running some illegal gambling. They found nothing in the garage but they searched the rest of her house and found some illegal porno. They took her to court and it was a miss trial becuase they did not have a search warrant saying they could go into her house.
Gunpei
08-24-2004, 02:46 AM
Did you ever think that maybe it would be alot worse had the "war" not started?
The reason i dont like the war on drugs because of all the govt. propaganda and lies. Do you still believe those reefer madness campaigns that they made in the 30's ? I just cant fucking stand the outrageous claims the govt. has over drugs like marijuana. All of their finding about health problems that drugs cause are usually ripped apart by a non-profit group that shows how they were lying.
Bombardier
08-24-2004, 02:49 AM
The reason i dont like the war on drugs because of all the govt. propaganda and lies.
Again, how do you know?
Gunpei
08-24-2004, 02:55 AM
i really dont understand your question. i thought most people knew that the govt. over exagerates effects of drugs like pot.
Bombardier
08-24-2004, 03:01 AM
Well, are you absolutely positive? "Most" people might think that, but they could be wrong. Alot of people think video games beget violence, that doesn't mean they're right. Saying "the government is corrupt" is really an easy way to make your point, isn't it? For a convincing argument, you need solid facts. You don't know that the War on Drugs has done more bad than good, because you don't have a refrence from which to look at it from. You also don't know that the government is full of lies and probaganda, because you don't have any part in it.
Basically you're just making crap up (it's more likely that that "information" was fed to you, but let's move on) and calling it fact to base your argument on.
It's just complete bullshit, I'm sorry.
Ihsiin
08-24-2004, 04:14 AM
You can tell the government is full of front and bullshit by just listening and using your brain. It would be just like them to overate the effects of drugs, but whether they do or do not is beside the point. The point is drugs like marijuana do more harm than good, so they should be destroyed anyway, along with alcohol and tobacco.
Moses
08-24-2004, 06:26 AM
lies about what? just face it, drugs are ILLEGAL. meaning that it is ILLEGAL to use/sell/buy them. When alcohol was banned, use didnt go up and use actualy declined, so if it illegal less people buy/use/sell and i am happy with that.
Klittlet
08-24-2004, 06:20 PM
The reefer madness was in the 30's just leave it there it was well before any of us were born it don't matter now most anything said about drus is true not all of it but most of it.
Klittlet
08-24-2004, 06:26 PM
You told me that "faggots" are ruining the world. Do you really think that's not offensive? Not only are you using the most offensive word you could possibly use to describe me, but you are telling me that it is MY FUCKING FAULT FOR THE WORLDS STATE. NO, IT'S NOT MY FUCKING FAULT, IT'S THE FAULT OF FUCKING MORONS WHO THINK THEY KNOW WHAT THE FUCK THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. Shut the fuck up and go away.
I obviously didn't no from the start that you are gay. I'm not looking to offend anyone for that I'm sorry but that doesn't change my mind I could have worded it better though.
Klittlet
08-24-2004, 06:30 PM
Wait, hold up. You're in college and you can't spell "crowd?"
I guess not jackass Don't tell me you can spell every word in the dictionary without a dictionary.Grow the fuck up and stick to the forum pencil dick.
Bombardier
08-24-2004, 06:44 PM
Well dude, it's not a big word. It's not like you misspelled "asynchronous" or something, it's fucking "crowd." A basic, five letter word, one vowel.
If I misspelled "fists," how do you think that would reflect upon my intelligence? Yeah, you'd think I was an idiot.
Klittlet
08-25-2004, 03:03 AM
Not necessaraly It could be a typeo or anything else who really cares besides some people better than other at certain things. Like I said if you want to test against me on anything else.
Ihsiin
08-25-2004, 03:04 AM
Umm, back on topic, maybe?
gookian
08-25-2004, 03:09 AM
Destroy alcohol? Oh wait no nononononononononono...Let's not go all Richard Simmons here alright? Let's not give the world ideas about banning alcohol...Let's just ban weed...yeah let's do that.
Ok guys stop pointing each other's spelling mistakes ok? Like....ok they misspell words wrong, WHO THE FUCK SPELLCHECKS EVERY WORD THEY TYPE HERE? Fucking grammar and spelling whores I say. But then again....CROUD? like.....U is not even close to the W.....there is no excuse for that mistake. But then again, it's only spelling. We are not here to impress english professors and immigrants so who cares.
Klittlet
08-25-2004, 03:11 AM
Destroy alcohol? Oh wait no nononononononononono...Let's not go all Richard Simmons here alright? Let's not give the world ideas about banning alcohol...Let's just ban weed...yeah let's do that.
Ok guys stop pointing each other's spelling mistakes ok? Like....ok they misspell words wrong, WHO THE FUCK SPELLCHECKS EVERY WORD THEY TYPE HERE? Fucking grammar and spelling whores I say. But then again....CROUD? like.....U is not even close to the W.....there is no excuse for that mistake. But then again, it's only spelling. We are not here to impress english professors and immigrants so who cares.
Thank you
Bombardier
08-25-2004, 03:14 AM
By saying that he was an idiot for misspelling a small, simple word, I was attacking the validity of his argument. Isn't that something people do in a debate?
Anyway, I'm with Amu. Alcohol, weed, cocaine, and all that shit should be outright destroyed. In all of my life, there has not been one incident where one of those things ever did an ounce of good. In fact, those things have just ruined the lives of many people I know.
Klittlet
08-25-2004, 03:21 AM
Well maybe you should start a thread about my spelling.
Bombardier
08-25-2004, 03:24 AM
You missed the point of my post, you should re-read for clarity.
gookian
08-25-2004, 03:32 AM
Misspelling a word on a forum doesn't make one person an idiot, or his opinion any less valid. It's a forum, not an essay contest.
Back on topic here. I think this topic was about the effectiveness of War against Drugs, not if we should ban it, but it seems like the topic has lead to this point. According to my friends who DO smoke weed, they say it's not addicting, but they have yet to prove it. But they seem to be doing decent in school mid 70s...So I don't know where to extactly stand in his topic. Though this might not reflect everything about weed. I do believe that weed maybe a form of stress relief (other alternatives are better though).
Klittlet
08-25-2004, 03:43 AM
I don't argue the point that it could relieve stress or something like that. But tell me do we need to medicate for every thing. people that drink too much do it for the same reasons. People love to smoke because it relieves stress but not knowing being addicated to nicotine is what causes the stress then you need anouther ciggerate.
Ihsiin
08-25-2004, 03:45 AM
It's sad that people need drugs to relieve stress now a days.
gookian
08-25-2004, 03:55 AM
Yeah it is sad. But some people just don't have time to take out in their lives to do things like play sports or do something active. Which is quite a shame really. But some people have to live lives like these to make ends meet. I think that's where drugs come into play. Smoking does relieve extreme levels of stress under a short amount of time, for a cost of one's health. But if people don't relieve stress SOMEHOW it can have more mentally negative effect, which could result in death or insanity. I can't say the same about weed though, people get high and waste more time...whats the point.
Klittlet
08-25-2004, 03:57 AM
They're are other ways to deal with stress.
gookian
08-25-2004, 04:00 AM
Yeah, I said that. But what method would you recommend to those people who work 24/7 (almost...not literally) and don't have time to do things like sports or music etc...
Klittlet
08-25-2004, 04:04 AM
Not that I believe in this stuff but people talk about yoga of ti-chee don't make fun I have no idea how to spell it nor do I care.
gookian
08-25-2004, 04:08 AM
But yoga and taichi (mind the spelling) takes ALOT of one's time.
Ihsiin
08-25-2004, 04:13 AM
I rekon that if we all rebel against the world and bring the world back to how it was like in 900 AD, then people would be a lot less stressed.
gookian
08-25-2004, 04:14 AM
OH NOes! So far back = no tv! I for one choose death.
Klittlet
08-25-2004, 04:17 AM
People couldn't handle that people today are to soft.
Bryan
08-29-2004, 07:32 AM
Well.. we are losing the war on drugs, because.. we're using a shitload of resources to stop drugs, and we are making virtually no progress. Sucks, don't it?
Put the money we use for enforcement into rehabilitation, and de-criminalize possession of marijuana, cocaine and heroin. People can't get help now because they're afraid of being arrested if they voluntarily go to rehab. Also, we can tax currently illicit drugs much like we do alcohol, and at the same time, put criminals in jail that are a threat to society, as opposed to themselves.
Gunpei
08-29-2004, 08:04 AM
I really dont understand drug stamps. How the hell can you tax something thats not legal? They only did that so you get more time if you get busted.
gookian
08-29-2004, 05:43 PM
WOW. There is tax on illegal shit? What the .... that IS pretty retarded. By the way Gunpei I love your yoda picture.
Ihsiin
08-29-2004, 06:26 PM
If the government wants to stop drug, just make the penely for drug use or dealing death by public hanging. That way people can see what will happen to them if they're caught with drugs.
If the government wants to stop drug, just make the penely for drug use or dealing death by public hanging. That way people can see what will happen to them if they're caught with drugs.
That was the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Are you serious? You can't just kill people for using drugs. The reason we don't want people to use drugs is so that they don't hurt themselves, why the hell would we start killing them? I really hope you were trying to be funny or something.
Bryan
08-29-2004, 07:08 PM
No, no. I was saying, let's make drugs legal and tax them. Sorry for the confusion.
Teuvil
08-29-2004, 07:09 PM
i dont think he was talking to you.
Ihsiin
08-29-2004, 08:42 PM
That was the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Are you serious? You can't just kill people for using drugs. The reason we don't want people to use drugs is so that they don't hurt themselves, why the hell would we start killing them? I really hope you were trying to be funny or something.
People only get into drugs because others are into drugs. This means that anyone who does drugs has some blame for other people doing drugs, thus harming other people. This makes it a punishable offence in my books, and as some drugs can destroy people's lives, death is a suitable punishment. Anyway, there needs to be more death sentences around these parts (the world). Crime would decline tenfold if public executions were reintroduced.
That's barbaric. If there's one thing that humans need to stop doing, it's killing eachother.
Ihsiin
08-30-2004, 12:19 PM
No, it's not barbaric. You only think it's barbaric because you've been brought up to think it's barbaric. It's justice; an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, a life for a life.
An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.
You know what this world needs? An attack from Aliens. Yes, I'm totally serious. Then we'd stop killing eachother and band together and stuff, it would be sweet.
Generic Wheaties
08-30-2004, 04:39 PM
^Acidic for president.
GrandTheftAutoVC
08-30-2004, 06:12 PM
http://blogs.salon.com/0002762/stories/2003/08/17/drugWarVictims.html
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That is so fucking sad. I cant believe how much of a fucking waste the war on drugs is. The government is never going to win so why the hell dont they stop murdering innocent citizens and stop putting people in jail for victimless crimes. I thought people would realise by now that most people who sell drugs are not ghetto neiggers from the hood who will rape your mother, rob you, and or kill you if they dont like you.
Drugs Fund Terriosts ;)
Ihsiin
08-30-2004, 07:54 PM
An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.
Nay, an eye for an eye makes only some of the world blind, leaving the rest to understand that it's in their best intrest to stop poking other people's eyes out. Yeah, this anallogy is getting dumb, but you see my point?
OffCenter
08-30-2004, 09:22 PM
^^ agreed. The war on drugs is shit. Nearly everyone does or did drugs. Stopping it at this moment in time is pointless and a waste of taxes. Drugs don't fund terrorist to most of the world we're the terrorist.
Genesis, he and I were actually arguing about the death penalty and it's practicality for non-murder crimes, but thanks for trying.
Bryan
08-31-2004, 12:34 AM
Drug money wouldn't go to terrorists if it were legal.. because American companies would be making and distributing them without breaking laws ;)
And fuck the death penalty, people. Yeah, let's give the government the right to kill people legally. Genius. I bet you're anti-abortion/pro death penalty...
I bet you're asking "Why can't we kill people that do something wrong?" Well, first of all, we are a civilized nation. Secondly, we are a country of freedom... or... we try, anyway. But what we don't do is be like some banana republic, or like one of our petroleum peddling buddies over in the middle east and kill our citizens in the streets as a deterrent. I have news for you, my friend: it does not stop crime. States that have the death penalty see no decrease in violent crime, but my state actually has. We have less murders now than we did before, and less gang activity. That has to do with law enforcement, not having a death penalty.
Because, in case you didn't know; the State of Michigan does not have a death penalty, but it has some of the best law enforcement training in the country.
But to say that we need to have the death penalty for other crimes is completely ridiculous. "You stole my stereo, so the government is going to take your life!"
That isn't fair..
OffCenter
08-31-2004, 03:34 AM
i read the first post and then skipped to the last page because it's too much work to read it all. Damn i tried got a little off topic tho eh
banana republic
lololololololololololo
Ihsiin
08-31-2004, 03:59 PM
Drug money wouldn't go to terrorists if it were legal.. because American companies would be making and distributing them without breaking laws ;)
And fuck the death penalty, people. Yeah, let's give the government the right to kill people legally. Genius. I bet you're anti-abortion/pro death penalty...
I bet you're asking "Why can't we kill people that do something wrong?" Well, first of all, we are a civilized nation. Secondly, we are a country of freedom... or... we try, anyway. But what we don't do is be like some banana republic, or like one of our petroleum peddling buddies over in the middle east and kill our citizens in the streets as a deterrent. I have news for you, my friend: it does not stop crime. States that have the death penalty see no decrease in violent crime, but my state actually has. We have less murders now than we did before, and less gang activity. That has to do with law enforcement, not having a death penalty.
Because, in case you didn't know; the State of Michigan does not have a death penalty, but it has some of the best law enforcement training in the country.
But to say that we need to have the death penalty for other crimes is completely ridiculous. "You stole my stereo, so the government is going to take your life!"
That isn't fair..
Several things. First, civilized nation. The meaning of civilized is only defined by when and where you live. Only 200 years ago, if a women would wear clothes that hugged the body as clothes do today, she would be considered uncivilized. Now, no such restraints exist.
Second, a country of freedom. Well, let us not dwell the restraints of freedom and so on, but I cannot see how being a country of 'freedom' has to do with the death penalty. Law and order, crime and punishment, freedom doesn't come into it. A country of freedom just means you can say whatever the hell you like.
Third, the death penalty does not stop crime as it's used now. In these days, you need to kill a million people to have your life taken as punishment. If the death penalty was used for crimes that deserve death, and done publicly, then it would have a great effect on the world of crime.
Oh, and I'm not saying that the death penalty should be used for petty crimes like minor theft, but for the more hadious crimes, like drug distribution.
I’m sorry to say, but you’re a typical mass produced self-righteous dude, morals born from the masses.
Bryan
08-31-2004, 08:37 PM
Several things. First, civilized nation. The meaning of civilized is only defined by when and where you live. Only 200 years ago, if a women would wear clothes that hugged the body as clothes do today, she would be considered uncivilized. Now, no such restraints exist.
Yeah, and where I live, and in the time that I live in, we frown upon killing people. So if the government can kill someone for, as you clarified, a more serious crime.. why can't I?
Second, a country of freedom. Well, let us not dwell the restraints of freedom and so on, but I cannot see how being a country of 'freedom' has to do with the death penalty. Law and order, crime and punishment, freedom doesn't come into it. A country of freedom just means you can say whatever the hell you like.
Being a country based on the principle of freedom has a hell of a lot to do with having or not having a death penalty, and especially having public executions. If you want to run this country like Iran, fine, but don't drag the rest of us down into your totalitarian shithole with you.
No, being a country of freedom has a hell of a lot more than the freedom to say whatever the hell you like. Ever read the Bill of Rights, if not the entire Constitution? They didn't write all that to cover one basic freedom that we, as Americans, have. Which also brings me to how freedom has a lot to do with our criminal justice system. That's the problem with the "Patriot" Act. It gives Federal Agencies more leeway in setting up surveillence and searches in the hopes to catch more terrorists, but when we start limiting Constitutional protections against illegal surveillence and searches, the terrorists are winning. They wanted to initiate change, and that's what President Bush is going towards.
It's a lot like the bill being presented to postpone the elections because we're in a military engagement. If that goes through, we have truly lost the War on Terror. Sorry, I'm in a couple places at once, but they are linked!
Third, the death penalty does not stop crime as it's used now. In these days, you need to kill a million people to have your life taken as punishment. If the death penalty was used for crimes that deserve death, and done publicly, then it would have a great effect on the world of crime
No.. To be killed for commiting a crime you have to be part of a racial minority, and have little money. Then, you have to kill a white person, and they'll shoot poison into your veins, or gas your ass without any thought, and little delay.
I’m sorry to say, but you’re a typical mass produced self-righteous dude, morals born from the masses
Yes! And you can make such comments accurately on your knowledge of me as a person, right? Oh wait.. you don't know me? Haha! You don't even know what you're talking about! My, my.. what a baseless comment in a post already riddled with hard-right bullshit. Let's start a Fourth Reich, everybody!
Gunpei
08-31-2004, 09:16 PM
The biggest reason teens and young children try or experiment with drugs is becuase the fact that they are illegal.
Bryan
08-31-2004, 09:20 PM
You try the things that are forbidden, that's right. I don't condone drug use, but decriminalizing them would make the most sense.
And Ricky.. next time you do drugs, we're going to shoot your ass. Amu and me, man!
Gunpei
08-31-2004, 10:42 PM
^ i dont do drugs, i smoke weed ;)
Bombardier
08-31-2004, 10:49 PM
drug
n.
1. A substance used in the diagnosis, treatment, or prevention of a disease or as a component of a medication.
2. Such a substance as recognized or defined by the U.S. Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act.
3. A chemical substance, such as a narcotic or hallucinogen, that affects the central nervous system, causing changes in behavior and often addiction.
Guess which definition applies to weed!
Gunpei
09-01-2004, 09:13 PM
Guess which definition applies to weed!
yeah weeds a drug you twink. its a medical drug that cures boredom.
Bombardier
09-01-2004, 09:48 PM
So you lied then?
^ i dont do drugs, i smoke weed ;)
yeah weeds a drug you twink. its a medical drug that cures boredom.
Oh, and last time I checked, "boredom" wasn't a medical condition. If you're going to support the use of marijuana in a medical sense, saying you smoke it for fun really hurts your argument.
Bryan
09-02-2004, 04:15 AM
People smoking weed isn't really a big deal, man.
Bombardier
09-02-2004, 04:21 AM
People smoking weed isn't really a big deal, man.
Then why is it such a hot topic in the media?
Gunpei
09-02-2004, 04:57 AM
because of govt. propaganda
Bryan
09-02-2004, 05:09 AM
It's in the media because we put away more people for drug offenses than violent crimes. It's a substantial chunk out of our budget.
And to even decriminalize marijuana would cut down on arrests. Then maybe we can get the real criminals off the street.
Of course, there would have to be regulation. You can't be sparkin' up just anywhere. Do it at home. Don't drive, it's a depressant, just like alcohol. Just basic, common sense shit.
You do that, you make it so people don't go to jail or prison for marijauna possession or distribution, then we'll be saving some major time and money. Also, if marijuana were legal, the government could tax it, and take money out of the pockets of violent gangs, terrorists overseas, and they could cut parts of organizations like the DEA and switch some agents over to the FBI to combat terrorism! It'd be wonderful, and you're giving me definitions of a drug, and shit about the media. Damn you for pissing on my parade, Mr. Hate. Damn you.
Dwhitten
09-02-2004, 05:53 AM
Bryan's got a point, but the government knows though that they would be losing on the deal by selling weed because home owners already grow their shit by themselves so they don't even need uncle same to supply them ;)
Generic Wheaties
09-02-2004, 05:56 AM
It'd be like kool-aid. You get a packet of weed seeds and you can grow it in your back yard. Probably get it from Home Depot in the garden section. *trademarks idea*
Dwhitten
09-02-2004, 05:58 AM
^^^ lmfao you fucking pothead :ha:
It'd be like kool-aid. You get a packet of weed seeds and you can grow it in your back yard. Probably get it from Home Depot in the garden section. *trademarks idea*
Fuzzy is going to be a millionaire someday. A criminal, but a millionaire all the same.
Bryan
09-03-2004, 12:49 AM
He'll be a huge mafioso drug lord who runs a home depot..
brudaman
09-03-2004, 01:13 AM
keywords: runs a home depot
Bryan
09-03-2004, 01:37 AM
Silence, bruda.
Moses
09-04-2004, 04:43 AM
You all want to aspire to nothing! Nothing I tell you!
Bryan
09-04-2004, 11:38 PM
I thought you were dead.
HEREcomesHANAH
09-07-2004, 02:33 AM
gasp i dont get it
I have a feeling that's going to be happening a lot.
Cocoa Christ
09-07-2004, 03:38 AM
Me too. Hanah, do you smoke weed?
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