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Karavi
08-29-2004, 06:39 PM
I've always had this doubt in the back of my mind that many historians just make up a lot of what they say. The first language that was depicted to having any sort of sense was created by the Phoenicians, which was a 'simplified' version to them of Cuneiform. Cuneiform was a 600 'letter' alphabet. Well, it was basically just little dots, and strange doodles.. (to us).

Historian's/others say that they figured out the dialect. These are people from our modern world, they say they're "brilliant" people who can distinguish what is what in Cuneiform. Somehow I find it absolutely ridiculous. These people sit there, and start with absolutely nothing, there's nothing to go off of or establish between different forms of writing. And yet, they say they can figure it out. Unless it's just great guesswork, I don't see how it's possible.

Maybe I'm too logical, but to me it seems as if many people made up a lot of what was said in Babylonian times. (Where Cuneiform was created).. There are too many missing pieces to the puzzle. I can definitely see someone sitting at a little table pounding their head and then deciding that they were going to make it up to get the money and to get the hell out of their little office.

Another thing that tends to get to me is evolution. It's been proven numerous times, been shown, the dates and such can be dated back years and years and years ago. Of course, there had to be some way we got here in the first place, whether we evolved or not. The Garden of Eden lies right where Iraq, etc. are now. It was supposed to be a place filled with beautiful things, and then of course God got pissed off and changed all that. But, it's been shown, that there was a lot more to it even before that. It makes me raise an eyebrow to many things, someone can say something and it would be put into a history textbook, no one would have any damned clue whether it was true or not. Then, after that, it would continue on as our 'history'..

Oh well, I'm just rambling. I've been reading a lot and all of that built up in my head.

Cuneiform:
http://www.sunysuffolk.edu/~kochm32/images/cuneiform.jpg

Pats
08-29-2004, 06:48 PM
I don't think that the people who decipher ancient texts as their lifes work are just making shit up. They didn't start from scratch either, it's like one of those Cryto things in the newspaper where you learn one letter and you can figure out the rest and then decipher the code. Maybe there was a drawing and then a symbol next to it. Now that they now what that symbol means, they can use it to understand other symbols. It's really pretty preposterous that anyone could just make up history and have no one notice.

Karavi
08-29-2004, 06:54 PM
It's happened quite a few times, and more than one person doubts the true origin of where we came from. Quite obviously, considering there are those who believe solely in evolution, and then there are those who believe in being created by God. It's either or for most, and even scientists doubt the origin of human beings. No one knows the real truth, and many things happened that no one will ever know about.

Some things can be stretched over years and years and turned into something utterly different from how it was to begin with. Which can then lead to an overwhelming amount of falsified information. I'm not saying that Historians do make it up, but it's most certainly possible. There are a lot of things that aren't completely verified, therefore no one knows the full truth to the story. Unless they lived back then, there's no way of knowing. Now, recent history that's been documented of course has much truth to it, take for instance Hitler. That's different, though.

Pats
08-29-2004, 06:55 PM
Well my Dad could beat up your Dad.

Karavi
08-29-2004, 07:07 PM
I'd always thought it'd be kinda funny to find out we're all related to apes. Funny and freaky.

http://www.laserexcellence.com/postcards/galaxy/kissme/ape.jpg

Teuvil
08-29-2004, 07:08 PM
Yea, i sometimes question what scientist say about the history. I mean, how do they know that hyroglyphics (sp?) is what it seems. How do they know that dinosaurs were green... why not purple or red? They dont have skin samples, yet on movies they are green/brown. I hate history scientists.

trubluluder93
08-30-2004, 07:38 AM
hieroglyphs were deciphered with the Rosetta Stone where the same message was written in Latin, greek and heiroglyphs... and hollywood does strange things to the truth

Cats
08-30-2004, 10:37 AM
I think I would like it if history were a work of fiction.
It might've not been so bad.

I don't think I would like it if history were a work of fiction.
Having to learn a whole 'nother story? eugh...

brudaman
08-30-2004, 02:12 PM
Dinosaurs were earthy colors as an educated guess. No one knows much about dinosaurs and scientists themselves say that who knows, maybe dinosaurs were not how our fossils show them to be?

atrocious
08-31-2004, 04:06 AM
...i think you're forgetting the fact that history is just what is written down. Who writes history down? The winners. It's also changes a little over the years. THe point is history is flawed.

Wimbien
08-31-2004, 03:25 PM
man writes history on how he thinks it happened so technically its flawed.

Mauler
10-08-2004, 07:34 AM
We are related to chimpanzees. There's a picture of gorilla.
Also, do not mix facts with fantasy. Bible has had nothing but bad effect in our cultures. Except all the fantastic churches in Europe. So don't mix the word evolution and anything from the bible, it makes you look stupid.

Ethan
10-08-2004, 07:59 AM
Teuvil, now I think it is speculated that dinosaurs actually had feathers. No joke.

Teuvil
10-08-2004, 10:03 PM
No doubt man. I seriously do think that the T-Rex had two small feathers. No wonder he was fawkin pissed all the time.

HPK
10-08-2004, 10:11 PM
No doubt man. I seriously do think that the T-Rex had two small feathers. No wonder he was fawkin pissed all the time.

I thought it was angry because of the tiny arms.

As for history being faked..It may have not been properly documented, but I don't think it was faked. Of course there isn't really much to say whether the past was faked or not...

Teuvil
10-09-2004, 12:38 AM
No, it was angry because of it's tiny feathers dammit! >,<

Mauler
10-11-2004, 08:12 AM
OMG SO FUNNWEH I PISS MY PANTS

Not!
I thought this is mature discussion, boys.

Cats
10-11-2004, 12:58 PM
Mature discussion?
On the internet?

I thought it was angry because of the tiny arms.

*does the arm reaching motions from that particular episode of Red Dwarf*

Mauler
10-11-2004, 01:03 PM
I guess you're right. Or more like, mature discussion on a forum which mostly consists of 13-18 years old americans teeangers with absolutely no moderating.


HAHA

Cocoa Christ
10-11-2004, 09:44 PM
Haha, that was a funny one mauler. Now go inject something and get some for of heppatitis because I'm sick of your statements with no backbones. If you don't like the forum, fucking leave. Nobody's keeping you here, I know I'm sure as fuck not.

Generic Wheaties
10-11-2004, 10:23 PM
Damn wheres m1k when you need him? anyway [insert owned picture here]

Moses
10-11-2004, 10:47 PM
I guess you're right. Or more like, mature discussion on a forum which mostly consists of 13-18 years old americans teeangers with absolutely no moderating.

Apparently 20 year old Fins aren't very mature either.

:screwya:

Mauler
10-11-2004, 10:58 PM
Just because I'm right, I'm immature? Alrighty.

Cocoa Christ
10-12-2004, 02:40 AM
Since when are you right? You're so drastically incorrect it's not even funny.