View Full Version : A question about the Zelda series.
Blaksmoke
09-25-2003, 01:38 AM
This could go on 3 different boards, but whatever.
Could someone, give me a serious and honest reason why they think any game in the Zelda series is an RPG. I just don't see it. It's an adventure game.
An honest answer. Anyone.
Notedog
09-25-2003, 01:44 AM
Its an action RPG not a turn based.
Blaksmoke
09-25-2003, 01:45 AM
Give me a reason why you think so!
OnBake Platinum
09-25-2003, 01:49 AM
Yeah, I don't see why people insist it's a RPG either...maybe cause Link to the past and the gameboy games used a rpg style camera? I don't know... :confused:
Notedog
09-25-2003, 01:49 AM
That is why I think so! Zelda is a role playing game because it shares many atributes of other RPGs. A huge sprawling universe, many uniqe characters scattered through out the land, etc.
Blaksmoke
09-25-2003, 01:52 AM
I can think of about 50 other game like that, and they aren't RPGs.
Jushiko
09-25-2003, 01:56 AM
You don't level up in Zelda, nor do you learn new abilities (Great Fairies don't count) with experience or any such system.
Shayde
09-25-2003, 01:56 AM
KotOR & Secret of Mana = Action RPG
Zelda = Action/Advnture
In my opinion anyways..
Notedog
09-25-2003, 02:00 AM
Blacksoke can you add a poll to this? Let the fans decide.
Chris
09-25-2003, 02:43 AM
Really, since an RPG is just a game where you assume the role of someone or something else, by that logic all games are RPGs, I don't like to pigeonhole RPGs as games that have a battle system or a game in which you level up. Any game can be an RPG.
Nintendospirit
09-25-2003, 04:40 AM
Large inventory of weapons to manage, magic potions, interaction with characters in a huge world, extensive storyline, constant upgrades, epic length...sounds like an RPG to me. What other game has the same features and is not considered an RPG?
deku_tree_77
09-25-2003, 06:19 AM
any game can be defined as an rpg since you are technically playing the role of a character. rpg definitly has its own definition to most gamers, zelda is an adventure game with exploration, not an rpg. that is all.
Glenn2K4
09-25-2003, 11:36 AM
Large inventory of weapons to manage, magic potions, interaction with characters in a huge world, extensive storyline, constant upgrades, epic length...sounds like an RPG to me. What other game has the same features and is not considered an RPG?
whew, thanks for typing all that so i didn't have to :D
but yea...there is your answer...it IS an rpg folks.
HolyPaladin
09-25-2003, 04:52 PM
Technically, doesn't the term RPG (role-playing game) suggest that it would be any game in which you play out a role? If you look at it that way, most games, including Super Mario Sunshine, Metroid Prime, Star Fox Adventures, or any number of FPS titles could sort of be considered role-playing games because, in all of those, you do play a character role.
Personally, I feel that a game is an RPG if you character build. (In most RPG's, you gain experience points that increase levels and stats, developing that character.) However, even limiting it this way, Link technically does go through character building, as you can increase his health, though not through gaining experience points.
Blaksmoke
09-25-2003, 05:50 PM
Large inventory of weapons to manage, magic potions, interaction with characters in a huge world, extensive storyline, constant upgrades, epic length...sounds like an RPG to me. What other game has the same features and is not considered an RPG?
That was weak, man. That covers tons of games.
And HP, in Banjo-Kazooie you learn new moves and find more honeycomb pieces as you progress through the game, but it's not an RPG.
Viper
09-25-2003, 05:57 PM
RPG's were based off of non-video game campaigns were a group of people assumed 'roles' in a quest. The similarities between the real RPG's and a few new game types that used similiar set ups is how they came to be and by that definition, LOZ is not a traditional RPG but an Action/RPG hybrid.
KamiKaZe
09-25-2003, 08:55 PM
who cares? if it's fun, play it. if not, stop bitching cuz u got no say. end of story
Glenn2K4
09-26-2003, 02:12 AM
who cares? if it's fun, play it. if not, stop bitching cuz u got no say. end of story
indeed :o
Notedog
09-26-2003, 02:17 AM
Keep in mind Metal Gear Solid 2 was said to be an rpg in the game itself! But they only meant that your character plays a role in the story.
peasantlover
09-26-2003, 09:07 AM
Large inventory of weapons to manage, magic potions, interaction with characters in a huge world, extensive storyline, constant upgrades, epic length...sounds like an RPG to me. What other game has the same features and is not considered an RPG?
How is 3 swords to choose from a "large inventory of weapons"...
anyway, one game that fits all those characteristics and is not an rpg... Resident Evil
Viper
09-26-2003, 02:34 PM
RPG's were based off of non-video game campaigns were a group of people assumed 'roles' in a quest. The similarities between the real RPG's and a few new game types that used similiar set ups is how they came to be and by that definition, LOZ is not a traditional RPG but an Action/RPG hybrid.
I explain it all right there. Read it again.
The Dude
09-26-2003, 03:00 PM
Zelda is an action rpg. Not many games fall under this category. Secret of Mana (snes) is one, so is Final Fantasy Adventure (GB)
Blaksmoke
09-26-2003, 07:19 PM
I still don't see it, but whatever.
Linktotheass
09-26-2003, 11:36 PM
Zelda is not an RPG.
This posts were originally made under the alternate account “Linktotheass”
Barbooski
09-27-2003, 05:34 PM
How is 3 swords to choose from a "large inventory of weapons"...
anyway, one game that fits all those characteristics and is not an rpg... Resident Evil
Weapons means more than swords. Bow, boomerang, bombs, and the hookshot can be used as a weapon too I believe.
Thats seven weapons. Not a lot but still more than three.
Oh, and depending on which Zelda game you're talking about, there could be four swords.
DarkNeptune7
09-28-2003, 02:54 PM
really, Zelda is a RPG.
stop thinking about rpg being turn-based battle. yes most of them are...Zelda is an RPG b/c it contain RPG elements
(Din's Fire, Faore's Wind, magic potions, huge storyline, many interactable characters whose reactions depend on your actions/time of day, etc)
+ Miyamoto also dubbed Zelda an action style RPG
Gork1554
09-28-2003, 04:23 PM
This is why i think its an rpg:
Interaction with characters. You don't JUST talk with them, you interact. Your actions influence characters. You role play. And to do it you do some action. Action RPG.
Blaksmoke
09-29-2003, 02:13 AM
I'm not thinking about turn-based RPGs, I'm saying that there's no way it's an action RPG. And just because it has potions doesn't make it an RPG by default.
Glenn2K4
09-29-2003, 03:30 AM
eh, forget the genre labeling...
as long as you like the game, it doesn't matter, right?
Ridley
09-29-2003, 03:30 PM
It is an Adventure/rpg.
Adventure because the fighting and woundering around is freehand.
RPG because you learn different abilities, is a huge quest, solve puzzles and you have to talk to people in towns to progress and gather info just like in the traditional turn-based RPG.
HolyPaladin
09-29-2003, 03:47 PM
And HP, in Banjo-Kazooie you learn new moves and find more honeycomb pieces as you progress through the game, but it's not an RPG.
Crap; I just now noticed this having been sort of directed at me (HP). Of course I wouldn't call it an RPG, and the same would go for most games, including ones I had previously myself listed in my orininal post to this thread. I had suggested that I felt character building to be part of an RPG, but I wouldn't consider learning new moves character building.
Anyway, I think that how we categorize The Legend of Zelda is influenced largely on what aspects of the game we tend to focus more on. It does have a lot of different features and elements that could be given attention. Of the comments I have seen submitted, I think the most reasonable is to call it an "action/RPG", since most people seem to agree on it carrying features of both categories.
Blaksmoke
09-29-2003, 08:27 PM
Well those people ARE ALL CRACKPOTS!
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