View Full Version : Windows XP Service Pack 2
Do you have SP2? I chose not to have it after testing it for 2 days in a row. I suggest that if you have a custom computer like me then you don't have it. If you have a setup you bought straight from the shop, it'll work fine and it's your choice.
Cocoa Christ
03-13-2005, 09:21 PM
I get all the service packs. It doesn't take any time at all and really can't do anything but help in the long run anyway.
Expo'86
03-13-2005, 09:31 PM
Yeh, is there some sort of hidden agenda going on that I'm not aware of? Everybody seems to think Service Packs are some sort of conspiracy. Dolts.
Cocoa Christ
03-13-2005, 09:34 PM
Yeah, an evil ploy by microsoft.
Some people are irrational.
Expo'86
03-13-2005, 09:38 PM
Well, I've installed every Windows Update and I haven't had one intrusion, virus or malicious attack during.
Or have I ? ;\
Moses
03-13-2005, 11:58 PM
Heh.
I've had SP2 for quite a while now, no reason not to upgrade.
otherwise...get a mac.:)
Cocoa Christ
03-14-2005, 01:19 AM
Actually, I want a mac. I was at school and I opened every file on the desktop really fast and then I opened every program on the whole computer and 10 web browsers and it started lagging really bad. But then it stabled itself out and I closed out of everything like it was nothing and encountered not one problem. If I did that on this computer, it'd explode.
Moses
03-14-2005, 01:48 AM
CC, a Mac Mini would be perfect for you. It was designed for users who decided to switch.
Cocoa Christ
03-15-2005, 02:24 AM
I dunno. I probably won't switch until after I move out. I never really realized before how much better Macs really were. I still don't know, I'll have to try it more. I've been using shitty ones my whole life and then I finally get my hands on a good one and see what it can do and I'm quite impressed. I'll probably attemp to invest in one after I move out. Right now all it would do is screw up my dad's Windows network.
Benson
03-15-2005, 02:34 AM
In reaction to your comment about not needing SP2 because you have a custom computer.
That is the biggest load of bullshit I've ever heard, having a custom computer has nothing to do with Windows. Personally, I run SP2 and have run into no problems.
My school actually requires any computer connected to their network to run SP2, and also they give out XP Pro SP2 for free.
Now what happens to all the people with "custom computers" that don't need it because for some reason their computer is built out of different components...
Macs are nice, but they are ohhh so expensive. Run Linux, it's almost Mac.
Cocoa Christ
03-15-2005, 02:40 AM
Linux is more complex than macintosh, but it's more fun. If you don't know what you're doing, you can get yourself into some trouble. And Ben, well, he doesn't look like he knows what he's doing.
I didn't install it, cause I've heard of slight bugs with it.
Moses
03-15-2005, 06:44 AM
What exactly is a service pack? Is it like upgrading fom OS10.3.7 to OS10.3.8?
Gummy
03-15-2005, 08:06 AM
No.
I do not SP2 because I've heard that it is incompatible with some few things.
And it's too big to download on 56k.
In reaction to your comment about not needing SP2 because you have a custom computer.
That is the biggest load of bullshit I've ever heard, having a custom computer has nothing to do with Windows. Personally, I run SP2 and have run into no problems.
My school actually requires any computer connected to their network to run SP2, and also they give out XP Pro SP2 for free.
Now what happens to all the people with "custom computers" that don't need it because for some reason their computer is built out of different components...
Macs are nice, but they are ohhh so expensive. Run Linux, it's almost Mac.
I never said it wouldn't work. I just suggested not using it with Custom because I have noticed that it has a lot more faults with Custom computers than Standard ones. And by my original comment I did not mean that Custom computers don't need it because they are already good enough. I was trying to say that it has more faults, not that it's just not needed.
order a cd from ms.
anyway a sp is basically a patch rollup with a couple of new features, like the security center and pop up blocker.
sp2 is great, no bugs at all for me.
Benson
03-16-2005, 04:28 PM
Why would it make a difference if a computer is custom or not?
Last I checked all computers have the same pieces, and typically if they are custom the pieces are better than a normal store bought computer. So your little theory is backwards.
Okay well, if you buy a PC on it's own, all the pieces and makes are compatible with each other. When you buy seperate makes and buy the bnest of everything, you get a mix. These parts weren't always made to work with each other so they don't always do the same things.
Moses
03-16-2005, 08:40 PM
That is such bullshit. Stop while you are ahead.
PC's find working with different components harder than working with ones which come as a whole set.
Bombardier
03-16-2005, 11:44 PM
PC's find working with different components harder than working with ones which come as a whole set.
I call bullshit.
In addition, I play the "you're a dumbass" card.
Not only can constructing a computer by yourself cost less than it would to buy a PC from say, Dell, but building one yourself will net you a faster, more efficient machine.
Computer parts don't "care" what other parts are wired to it, they are a jumble of wires shrunk down to a size most people can't even comprehend. They do not have feelings.
It's not possible to buy PC parts as a "set." Even if you think you are doing just that from buying a PC from a company like Gateway, you're wrong. All you're doing is paying the Gateway people for the parts themselves (Which they buy wholesale, separately.), for putting the parts together, and for an IT biscuit to install Windows and some shitty bundled software with it.
Your theory is bullshit and you're a dumbass.
Moses
03-17-2005, 03:00 AM
My computers have Apples on them.
I'm not a dumbass. I just have a theory, a proven theory. Wether you agree or not, I don't see the need to insult me.
Expo'86
03-17-2005, 05:43 PM
Your logic is flawed.
Benson
03-17-2005, 08:13 PM
Your theory is not proven.
You are very misinformed.
What I meant was that I have tested it myself and proven it to myself. So my theory is proven, just not to you.
Bombardier
03-17-2005, 11:24 PM
What I meant was that I have tested it myself and proven it to myself. So my theory is proven, just not to you.
Anecdotal evidence carries very little weight with people other than yourself.
Benson
03-18-2005, 05:53 AM
So then, it is not a theory at all.
It is your personal bullshit experience.
Case closed.
I win.
Moses
03-18-2005, 06:45 AM
Why would it make a difference if a computer is custom or not?
Last I checked all computers have the same pieces, and typically if they are custom the pieces are better than a normal store bought computer. So your little theory is backwards.
You won at that point.
My computers have Apples on them.
Mine has a flag.
Flag covers apple, flag Wins. Windows wins the war. Mission accomplished.
btw,
Custom Components don't mean shit to Windows XP, only drivers do, and of course shoddy drivers are going to cause problems with SP2, Of course, not XPs fault, some OEM decided to get the RAM from the dollar isle at Comp USA.
no, SP2 has no problems with "custom" computers
Only problem you'll have is if you havent updated your drivers.
So then, it is not a theory at all.
It is your personal bullshit experience.
Case closed.
I win.
Won what? There was never anything to win.
Benson
03-18-2005, 09:06 PM
Showing that you know nothing about what you are talking about.
Why do you have to be so blunt? Can't you just accept that you don't agree with me and either agree or leave it. You have told me you don't agree, okay whatever. Don't drag it out...
Benson
03-18-2005, 10:07 PM
I am just showing you that what you are pushing onto others is completely based in fiction.
I'm about to lock this thread because of your wrong theories.
Lol, I think that there is a different reason you want to lock this thread.
Benson
03-18-2005, 10:49 PM
Why would the be Mr. Knowitall?
Know? I never said I knew anything. If you actually read anything in this thread you will notice the word 'think' comes up but not know.
Gummy
03-20-2005, 05:59 PM
I'm clueless about this.
jluhyo.98v6
03-20-2005, 10:41 PM
i have the CD but i never had the time to install it there is no need for it my computer runs fine
also microsoft automaticly updates my computer every month
Rather
03-21-2005, 06:33 PM
I have it. and it's fairly buggy. Although maybe that's just my PC...
Moses
03-21-2005, 09:59 PM
Lol, Benson wins t3h G4m3!! SP2 is so 1337!
=NukeBlaze=
03-24-2005, 04:49 AM
Your theory is valid , but you only used it in one case, and at that it is limited in what you did with it. I am sure if you follow my method, you wil not encounter any problems. If you want almost no problems with windows XP SP2, the following works almost everytime. The following advise is used for optimial stablty when install any operating system on a blank Harddisk.
Installing SP2 : Step 1
+Download the full administartor install of windows xp SP2 (250MB download) or obtain windows XP SP2 CD
+Save all data you want and format harddisk.
+Install windows XP and set it up
+Install windows SP2.
+Install all new drivers
+Install firewall, anti-vrial/spayware software
+Install Applications.
And there you have it, the best solution for Windows SP2 and when installing a new Operarting system on a computer. I generally do not reccomend that anyone install SP2 on thier system without a format for many programs, like norton and Divx, and be "Broken" and especially norton can cause all sort of havok when it does not feel well.
Moses
03-24-2005, 06:12 AM
How to update OS X:
1. Run Software Update.
2. Click install.
3. Click Restart.
4. Continue normal operation.
That other stuff just seems like a lot of work.
=NukeBlaze=
03-24-2005, 07:23 AM
^ You forgot that upgrade that costs $100 everytime Jobs upgrades OSX a 0.1 version point.
You could do that with Windows XP, the problem lies in a 100 MB update that is basicly a new Operating system with many included secutiry steps. In which, some programs have to be written with the new secutiry steps in mind or thier software may stop functioning properly. You could also argue the library of software, price/preforamce,hardware choices, the list go on in and PC/Mac comparison. Personally, The only ground that I find MACs excell on is security and offering an alernative to Windows. If you like them though, go and for it I won't compliain.
I installed SP2 on top of some other programs, no problems here. depends if your programs and drivers are fixed though.
Moses
03-25-2005, 04:31 AM
^ You forgot that upgrade that costs $100 everytime Jobs upgrades OSX a 0.1 version point.
Oh noes, I have to buy a new OS every 3 years? Upgrading from 10.2 to 10.3 is like going from Windows 2000 or whatever to XP. DOUCHE BAG! SUCCUMB TO THE MIGHTY APPLE! YOU CANNOT RESIST! IT WILL HAVE ALREADY STARTED BY THE TIME YOU FINISH READING THIS.
Tiger!
Asarien
03-25-2005, 08:36 AM
Asarien must agree.
For he is using his nice Apple PowerBook G4 15.2" Superdrive laptop as he types.
And he does plan on cumming on his copy of Tiger when he gets it.
Asarien must agree.
For he is using his nice Apple PowerBook G4 15.2" Superdrive laptop as he types.
Lucky mofo. All I got is this here 2.5Ghz P4 HP laptop with XP Pro. :cry:
And he does plan on cumming on his copy of Tiger when he gets it.
:|
Moses
04-07-2005, 03:16 AM
http://bpm-today.newsfactor.com/bpmtechbrief/story.xhtml?story_title=Microsoft-To-End-Service-Pack---Download-Block-Feature-on-April---&story_id=32440&category=bpmtechbrief
I guess you "No" guys are SOL.
hypedave
05-07-2005, 04:47 AM
I have a very stripped down version of SP2 without the firewall.
I now have SP2.
Erm...
That is all.
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