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IEatFriedPikmin

11-10-2005, 04:51 AM

I am sure many of you have played it. What were your impressions?

I had mixed reactions. This is just from what I saw.

I liked the design of the console itself. White is a good color. I would prefer black though. The graphics were excellent of course, and overall it was pretty fun. I loved the menu. It was user friendly, and looked great.

But my main argument is that it just doesnt feel like a next-gen system. After playing it, I really cant imagine people paying $400 for it, but they are, and if thats what they want to do, fine with me. I got to play CoD 2, King Kong, and Kameo. I already played CoD 2 on my computer, and it runs slightly better on 360... there is just more detail and it runs smoother. Its a great game though. I also have King Kong on my computer, and even though it was somewhat fun, it felt like it required little skill. Kameo... it was ok. I am kinda dissappointed at Rare for this one. How long has this game be in development? 5 or 6 years? This and PD0 should be the killer apps on the 360.

I dont see why people like the controllers so much. It is really nothing new to me, except for that big button in the middle. I didnt think it was too comfortable, but i would probably get over that after a few hours. I dont like the double shoulder buttons... it made things feel more confusing. It took me a while to figure out what did what in each game due to the amount of buttons, but that probably would not be an issue after a while.

Again, this is just from what I saw. I didnt get to play on Live or mess with any other extra features.

speed stick

11-10-2005, 06:06 AM

Well I played one today and really enjoyed it. I liked the controller more, probably because I was used to a GC controller. The graphics were nice considering the kiosk was set up properly. I wish I could have played PDZ. I am looking forward to playing PGR3 on and offline, the game just looks amazing.

I don't see how the buttons where confusing? Seemed good if you ask me. But like you said, it takes time to get used to.

Viper

11-10-2005, 06:13 AM

My impression?

Read it:
http://nintendonow.e-mpire.com/index.php?categoryid=6&m_articles_articleid=3220

11-10-2005, 11:49 AM

I am sure many of you have played it. What were your impressions?

I had mixed reactions.
this is why:
The graphics were excellent of course

But my main argument is that it just doesnt feel like a next-gen system. After playing it, I really cant imagine people paying $400 for it
ports of current gen games:
CoD 2, King Kong, Kameo...I already played CoD 2 on my computer, and it runs slightly better on 360... there is just more detail and it runs smoother...I am kinda dissappointed at Rare for this one. How long has this game be in development? 5 or 6 years? This and PD0 should be the killer apps on the 360.
these are all ports of current games. no game was specifically built from the ground up on X2. in fact, Kameo and PD0 were ported from Cube to Boc then to X2. they even missed an entire generation and this is what they give me...

the cotroller is a DS2 clone.
it also does what many asked for: triggers AND shoulder buttons. many said they wanted DS2 to have triggers instead of R2 & L2. let's see if gamers really preer that ove rthe traditional layout of 4 shoulder buttons.
but no matter how you look at it, X2's pad is definitly better than Box's, and that is always a good thing.
and as you said, X2 has absolutely nothing new. not one thing. PS3 has BD movie playback, 1080p HD capability for games, deep PSP interconnectivity, HDIP camera, the best graphics, physics, lighting, etc. Rev has..well, a remot as a controller. and that's basically it. MS has absolutely nothign new to offer. what a pitty.

for me, the concepts of X2 are good, until MS screw themselves that is. they say the "HD eraaaaaaa" and they don't support neither an HD format nor the highest HD resolution. they boast about how great their games look and they humiliate themselves with the results. they changes their talk from 'most powerful console' to 'nah, it not about the power, it is all about the games'. launch games constantly shift further and further away. I am 12 days to launch and I am yet to see an official launch line up list, their games look like current ones with little to no upgrades, no backword compatibility while the games are few and yet they will kill off Box. no more 1st party support for Box. no Halo3 pics, concepts, sketches or anything- and this is by far the biggest game they have of the few selections available. stupid game announcements like a direct port of a 2 year old PC/PS2 game (FF11). an updated Dynasty Worriors 5. why the hell update a direct port? why not make its own version?

to give hope, I am waiting to see if only the first wave of games will suffer from 'stupid current graphic' syndrome or will it plague the system. I am hopefull all the rushing is to blame- though even that isn't an excuse. I will only judge it when PS3 launches and compare both games. if even the multi games will look the same or even better on PS3, there would be no reason to get X2 anymore since it lost its strongest selling point from last gen; power.
if things stay ugly, I will have another, and final, look at it when this Halo 3 releases. and it better freakin' knock me off visually or I will never touch the thing!
Live is good and well, but is it enough?
I had reason to buy a Box this time, and I am yet to see a reason why to get an X2.

IEatFriedPikmin

11-10-2005, 02:56 PM

well, i am sure it will be cheaper, and the PS3 will probably be ridiculously expensive as well, unless they pull another PSP.

HolyPaladin

11-10-2005, 03:05 PM

As I've often stated, I'm still buying a 360, but not because I'm impressed or thrilled by it, but simply because I'll need one to play some of the upcoming games. The games look pretty and all, but not leaps and bounds beyond the GCN/Xbox/PS2 generation; certainly not the difference we saw between the PSX and PS2 or between N64 and GCN, and visual upgrades just don't get me worked up, anymore. Besides graphic improvements, I still have yet to find anything to get excited about from the 360.

Coded-Dude

11-10-2005, 04:47 PM

well, i am sure it will be cheaper, and the PS3 will probably be ridiculously expensive as well, unless they pull another PSP.How can you be so sure, no other playstation system has been rediculously expensive......

Anywho, I was very thrilled at all the colors the games were displaying, but there were several "jaggies" (yes I know the games were just demos) But I stand were most reserved fans do; it just doesn't semm next gen.

IEatFriedPikmin

11-10-2005, 07:58 PM

the psp was predicted to be very expensive, and it should have been. sony decided to take its chances against nintendo though, and have no profit gain on the PSP, kinda like the xbox. PS3 will have to do something similar... it wont be cheap, but if sony wants to, they can make it somewhat affordable.

Cofey

11-10-2005, 11:41 PM

speed stick

11-11-2005, 12:17 AM

ports of current gen games:

these are all ports of current games. no game was specifically built from the ground up on X2. in fact, Kameo and PD0 were ported from Cube to Boc then to X2. they even missed an entire generation and this is what they give me...

Link?

The demo games may have been improved ports from PC. I think PGR3 was build from the ground up. Possibly condemed as well.

11-11-2005, 07:16 AM

Link?
there isn't a specific link that mentions this. rather dev's themselves, sites and mags are saying that these are ports. also, you don't need a link to realize the games are coming to PC and current gens as well and notice there isn't much difference between the versions.
I think PGR3 was build from the ground up. Possibly condemed as well.
PGR3 maybe the only exception (maybe). but Condemned is coming out on PC as well with *drom rolls* the same graphics. that is why nobody is flipped over the graphics. that is why gamers are disappointed. even Box fans. read HolyPaladin's post. I agree with him and so does the majority. there may be reasons to buy X2, but being next-gen isn't one of them...at least not so far.

I have to say, I was much more excited about Box's release than I am for X2's. I still have the EGM issue with the first full system overhall exclusive. man, now that was hype.

Magus Z

11-11-2005, 08:27 AM

I think it's great and I'm totally psyched for it. However, I flat out refuse to pay $400 for a new console. Luckily, since I'm splitting the bill, I only had to pay $200. I'm getting an XBox 360 for the price of a (launch) GCN!

lol that's the same reason I'm getting one. Im getting for X-mas and I'm payign half and my GF is paying the other :) (Plus I got some connections and I'm getting a $50 discount on the 360 ;-]

When I played it at Wal-mart at first I was like " Uhhh ... Ahhh" Then I started playing the games and started thinking "not much different at all...not different at all from games I'm playing now."

So basiclly I'm getting a system that just makes games look prettier. But I have a few reason for getting an Xbox 360.

1. No other next-gen will be relased for a while.
2. Splitting price and getting $50 off
3. I want to play old Xbox games

So yeah not impressed by the system but its got potential. Expecially the way PS3 is going...

D3adcell

11-11-2005, 02:52 PM

PGR3 maybe the only exception (maybe). but Condemned is coming out on PC as well with *drom rolls* the same graphics. that is why nobody is flipped over the graphics. that is why gamers are disappointed. even Box fans. read HolyPaladin's post. I agree with him and so does the majority. there may be reasons to buy X2, but being next-gen isn't one of them...at least not so far.

I have to say, I was much more excited about Box's release than I am for X2's. I still have the EGM issue with the first full system overhall exclusive. man, now that was hype.

Condemned will probably run alot smoother and have a better framerate etc though. It is using the 3 processors (i believe) and multi threading. Or so I read somewhere.

I have that same EGM aswell.

Goki

11-11-2005, 03:58 PM

I read somewhere that Call of duty for 360 looks better than PC. Can we assume for a while that all "pc ports" will be superior on th e 360 than on a high end PC ?? for a while??

BTW does anyone one kow where theres a review of the 360 hardware with pics and everything opening it up and all.

Pro A.

11-11-2005, 04:05 PM

I do think there is promise in the 360 and I think it will likely be a solid success. I look forward to games like Gun and PD0 and COD2 (already played it for PC, but oh well). I get a discount with Target anyways, so thats a nice deal.

And people, can we please wait for Kutaragi to say something about the PS3 price before you go off damning the man, the company, and the system?

O.D.S

11-11-2005, 04:11 PM

And people, can we please wait for Kutaragi to say something about the PS3 price before you go off damning the man, the company, and the system?
BEST POST EVER!

Coded-Dude

11-11-2005, 04:12 PM

I read somewhere that Call of duty for 360 looks better than PC
The demo is definately not better than PC, the final release may prove to be better, btu they have their work cut out for them. Don't get em wrong, I was somewhat impressed, but also a little let down.

speed stick

11-11-2005, 06:41 PM

Has anyone ever thought that maybe the games were made for the 360 then ported to the PC rather then the other way around considering the 360 versions are running better at the moment? Just curious. I think there may be a difference.

axia777

11-11-2005, 06:55 PM

Well, I played it at at Wal-Mart for about 35 mins. I played every demo. I love the controller! Microsoft did right with the new 360 controller. It is just the right size with very good button placement. It reminded me alot of Dual Shock 2 for PS2. The design of the console also reminds me of PS2.

Now as for graphics I guess they are really good for this gen, but for next gen? I really dont think so. They look good, like high quality current gen PC games. All in all the games had pretty high poly counts, smooth frame rates, and nic textures. For launch games I guess they could have done worse. I just expect the games that come out in the next year to kick way more ass than the games I saw. For the HD era they had better pick it up. But then they are launch games and devs need time to learn the 360's ins and outs. Given time I am sure they will look much better.

D3adcell

11-11-2005, 08:20 PM

Well, I played it at at Wal-Mart for about 35 mins. I played every demo. I love the controller! Microsoft did right with the new 360 controller. It is just the right size with very good button placement. It reminded me alot of Dual Shock 2 for PS2.

I was reminded of the dualshock 2 aswell. But with better joystick placement, I liked it alot.

venomv

11-11-2005, 09:22 PM

I saw the Dual-shock 2 in it as soon as I saw the first picture. Most people, myself included, consider it the best control ever. Good reason to try to make it closer to the dual shock then the XBox control, even though it looks like a hybrid of both.

IEatFriedPikmin

11-11-2005, 09:29 PM

the button layout is nearly the same.... and its nice that microsoft cant come up with their own unique design.

anyways, i guess i can see why someone would buy one if they dont want to spend a fortune on a high end computer... kinda like i did.

I guess I dont really need one at the moment.

btw, about the 360 and pc versions of games. The 360 versions run better, but honestly, it is kinda like comparing RE4 on PS2 and GC. You wont really notice the difference. its subtle.

axia777

11-11-2005, 09:56 PM

I was reminded of the dualshock 2 aswell. But with better joystick placement, I liked it alot.

I like both for their own qualities, but after the "Hamburger" that came with the XB, this is a million times better. It even whups on the S controller. Microsoft I think silently admitted that they were fools for even making that crap ass orginal XB controller and just ripped off the DS2 as much as they could with out getting sued. Congrats Microsoft, your controller kicks ass.

Goki

11-11-2005, 10:51 PM

I havent tested it yet, but on the pics it dfntly looks comfortable!!

MicVlaD

11-12-2005, 01:29 AM

Got to play one today at a local gaming exhibition.

Demo: Dead or Alive 4.

Me vs random bloke.

I won.

Xbox 360, including TV, crashed and blanked out for all eternity. Two seconds later, the set next to it (playing Call of Duty 2) as well.

I'm just that damn awesome.

Condemned will probably run alot smoother and have a better framerate etc though. It is using the 3 processors (i believe) and multi threading. Or so I read somewhere.

I have that same EGM aswell.Two processors I believe: the second one being used for better Artificial Intelligence.

11-12-2005, 07:28 AM

3. I want to play old Xbox games

that has to be the No.1 reason for getting X2. are you kidding me?
if you don't have Box then you 'may' have a point. though you would have to specifiy that you can only chose what they support for b/c which is 212 titles currently. that may not seem alot when you consider 3 parts of the same game is inclued and things like Barbie gives that extra spice to the list...

1. No other next-gen will be relased for a while.

well, that depends on the person. I certainly don't see around 4-5 months as being long.I will probably get it from where ever it launches first.

Can we assume for a while that all "pc ports" will be superior on th e 360 than on a high end PC ?? for a while??

some ports will look better on X2, but if that will include all games I am not sure. also, how good is this 'better' we are talking about? some don't see a difference between Doom3 for Box or PC. will such a difference be the same this time? more? less?

judging by what I have seen so far, the difference isn'y noticeable for me.

Has anyone ever thought that maybe the games were made for the 360 then ported to the PC rather then the other way around considering the 360 versions are running better at the moment? Just curious. I think there may be a difference.

I don't think there is a single game made for X2 first with PC in mind. all the games were PC ,ade. they have better experience and more tools and systmes to work with. another reason is why down-scale your work to another platform when you can save yourself alot of trouble and work with one base then tweaking for the more capable platform or leave it as is?

another, and more important, point; I don't want to play current games, PC or other wise. I don't want 'slightly' smoother frames. I want 'next-damn-gen'! when I look at a next gen game, I want to feel I was kicked in the groin by a drunken mule. I want to disbelieve my eyes and shout "no FREAKIN' way that's real!!" I wan't a reason to call a system next gen.
I haven't waited for 5 years just to play current PC games.
even look at the reason why some are getting it:
a deal.
nothing better to do.
replay my PC games.
play Box games.
I have no idea.

I haven't found one person that tells me because X2 is the next benchmark in gaming. or that it gives you the full experience of gaming/intertainment.

if this is how people feeel even before launching (pre-launch is supposed to be the most hyped and crazt fenzy time) what will people do 5 months from now when PS3 explodes?
X2 isn't really looking good....not to me.

Magus Z

11-13-2005, 02:34 AM

I haven't waited for 5 years just to play current PC games.
even look at the reason why some are getting it:
a deal.
nothing better to do.
replay my PC games.
play Box games.
I have no idea.

I haven't found one person that tells me because X2 is the next benchmark in gaming. or that it gives you the full experience of gaming/intertainment.

if this is how people feeel even before launching (pre-launch is supposed to be the most hyped and crazt fenzy time) what will people do 5 months from now when PS3 explodes?
X2 isn't really looking good....not to me.

lol I see your point very cearly. 360 isn't special at all, but for me since I have a PC (with practically no graphics card), the 360 will serve me well as a high end computer console thingy. I want to play doom 3, half life 2, far cry, and not spend $100-$200 for a graphics card now, to only needing to buy a better one in a couple of years, maybe even less.

As much as I think that the 360 and the PS3 have no uniqueness to them (unless you belive PS3's controllers [the concept one] is unique LOL) they are just better looking games than what we have now.

And yeah 3-4 months for me is a while especially when I, kind of know, the rev is going to be cheap. The PS3 I'm going to wait, don't see much furture in that as of now. Games on that are going to be like $69.99 and NO WAY am I paying that much lol Expecially just to go uhh ahh when Nintendo says that the difference between the graphics aren't going to be much different. (Im thinking GCN re4 compared to RE4 PS2 could be wrong though.)

O.D.S

11-13-2005, 02:44 AM

Games on that are going to be like $69.99
Where did you get this price figure from?

axia777

11-13-2005, 02:48 AM

Where did you get this price figure from?

No joke. Where on earth did anyone say games are gonna be that much for any system. I knopw there was talk games costing more, but no real info. I would NEVER pay that much for a game and the market would not support it at all.

speed stick

11-13-2005, 03:13 AM

^I'm not agreeing that the games are going to cost that much, but if all games cost that much for some reason, the market kinda has to accept it.

Magus Z

11-13-2005, 06:15 PM

I said "like" meaning im just guessing :) But if games are $59.99 on the Xbox 360 imagine the price on the PS3 when everything on it will look so much better (I pressume) The price of the games has to up for the extra work on the game.

speed stick

11-13-2005, 06:19 PM

^Yeah, that would only make sense in that way, but its kinda hard to tell because Sony wants to be able to compete.

O.D.S

11-14-2005, 04:08 AM

But the Xbox looked better on its exclusives and games didnt cost more.

I expect the same, PS3 to have better graphics on its Exclusives yet for all those ports expect around the same amount of graphic quality.

speed stick

11-14-2005, 04:27 AM

^Try explaining that to a PS3 fanboy. Thats the way I would see it as well considering it happened this generation.

cliffbo

11-15-2005, 02:56 AM

i will buy a PS3 shortly after it is launched as i can only afford 1 console and the xbox360 does nothing for me anyway but i do think the games will get better as the first games are almost always of a lesser quality than later titles.

Viper

11-15-2005, 02:59 AM

Indeed and with supposedly 18 titles set for launch, I can only imagine how rushed they were.

venomv

11-15-2005, 03:25 AM

I finnaly got to see the X360 in action, even though an 11 year old kid was there for a half an hour before I gave up on playing it. They had the CoD demo, it looked ok the guns looked really good and charcter models where good, but everything else looked easily doable this gen (or should we be calling it last gen now?). Hard to coment and gameplay and the control since i never touched, but the control and console look a lot better in person.

cliffbo

11-19-2005, 05:03 PM

its not looking good for microsoft i'm affraid. out of the seven people i saw play on the demo console at Game, not one, and i am not exagerating people, had anything possitive to say. and then i read the threads here and low and behold its business as usual. 'same game better graphics', 'not next gen'. hd era, they've done a 360, green, the colour of naivety, greed and envy, and like monty python once said, this is an xbox, its pushing up daisies. sorry microsoft, but sony are just too damn savy to let you buy into a market and get away with it. you sold the ex-box based on power. come on everybody the seas warmer in the east

IEatFriedPikmin

11-19-2005, 06:04 PM

speed stick

11-19-2005, 06:12 PM

11-20-2005, 07:24 PM

henryhund

11-20-2005, 07:32 PM

for those that say things are current gen (and certainly current PC), to give hope, they say the next wave of games will show the 'true' potential of X2 (how many times have I heard that?). but the next wave will be at least 6 months from launch. PS3 will already be released. and to be frank, when PS3 launches, the market won't be as forgiving...for any player.

I am waiting to see this 'true' potential. untill then, there is no hurry. and let's be honest, if Halo 3 doesn't sell X2 nothing will.
now I wonder how that game will look like?

I feel that this is going to make a huge dent this holiday. X360 is going to be wildly sought after like it was a Furbie or something. And six months from now, we are going to see a lot of unhappy people trying to sell them to get a PS3/Revolution.

Microsoft rushed this. Unless they are hiding PDZ because it is so amazing they want it to be a surprise (yeah right) I don't think there are going to be any killer apps on the system. For QUITE some time.

kaphwan

11-21-2005, 09:02 AM

As much as I think that the 360 and the PS3 have no uniqueness to them (unless you belive PS3's controllers [the concept one] is unique LOL) they are just better looking games than what we have now.

Two tvs on 1 ps3? Eight controllers? b/c with like 1000 games (psx and ps2)?Final Fantasy XIII? GTA ps3? Killzone? The cell chip? Compatibility with PSP's?

Where is the not-uniqueness?

[edit: 200th Post! And holy shit I have 5 rep power!]

I can't honestly say that it will be Dreamcasted, because it already has such a large following. Halo 3 won't have the same impact it did last gen, on the basis that it doesn't come with the system like last time. Forcing you to play a very impressive game will

1. make you like said console
2. give good word of mouth.

Someone else can fill in what games come with it plz? Really, the success of the previous xbox depended solely on Halo. Don't deny this, seriously. xbox360 needs another killer app.

O.D.S

11-21-2005, 11:27 AM

make that like 8000 games backwards compatible

IEatFriedPikmin

11-21-2005, 02:11 PM

the thing is is that sony may be throwing those things in, but what are they hyping most? the graphics. That gives me the feeling that that is what there focus is, and like i said earlier, everything else is just being thrown in.

venomv

11-21-2005, 05:09 PM

im gonna have to strongly disagree on that. Maybe the environment is doable, but with all the smoke and action going on at the same time, this generation could never pull it off.

That's what I ment the, buildings and all the static graphics looked last gen, but the smoke might not have been doable with everything else, but still even with that the only things that looked like it was any better was the guns and people.

make that like 8000 games backwards compatible

13,000 7000 for PS1 6000 fpr PS2 and if only 90% are backwads compatible thats still 11700 games. And the numbers of games are from Ken Kuturagi at E3.

The Dude

11-21-2005, 06:17 PM

my first thought. "video games are dead to me"

11-21-2005, 08:31 PM

Two tvs on 1 ps3? Eight controllers? b/c with like 1000 games (psx and ps2)?Final Fantasy XIII? GTA ps3? Killzone? The cell chip? Compatibility with PSP's?

Where is the not-uniqueness?
don't forget BD! and make that +13000 games (+7000 PSOne, +5000 PS2)
the thing is is that sony may be throwing those things in, but what are they hyping most? the graphics. That gives me the feeling that that is what there focus is, and like i said earlier, everything else is just being thrown in.
of course I don't expect something out of this world. games will play as current ones with better physics and graphics. great physics alone could really change a game experience. that is what I am very excited about next gen: PS3's monster Cell. AGIEA said Cell could handle their best physics solution. also, graphics demonstrait the technical ability of consoles. amazing graphics isn't easy to pull off. for techies, numbers will do. for others, a pritty picture will do.