PS3 May Have Less Frequent Games than Revolution & Xbox360!

[Nerve-Damage]

The latest issue of Japanese economy magazine, Weekly Diamond, reveals that developers are unhappy with the state of PS3 development tools, and software is likely to be late in coming for the hardware. The article states that PS3 dev... (http://game-science.com/news/001249.php)

The latest issue of Japanese economy magazine, Weekly Diamond, reveals that developers are unhappy with the state of PS3 development tools, and software is likely to be late in coming for the hardware. The article states that PS3 dev tools have only just started shipping to developers this month, while 360 tools were shipped last summer. Furthermore, SCE has not yet announced the price of the console, so developers are unable to predict what audience they are targetting games at. President of Enterbrain, Hirokazu Hamamura, says "We are unlikely to see games exhibiting a level only PS3 can achieve until the end of 2007."

The article goes on to compare the benefits of PS2 as a cheap DVD player when it launched in 2000, with PS3's Blu-Ray playback capabilities, the main difference between then and now being that the industry is currently deep in a format-war for next-generation video, and that Blu-Ray movies still don't exist. It is therefore deduced that the number of users who will pick it up as a cheap Blu-Ray player at launch is somewhat smaller, and that sales of game software will be key for the system.

[Kb-smoker]

the final kits were going out this month. i don't understand what they are talking about. The dev kits are right on schedule.

[GUNDAMSEED]

It's ps2 all over again . When sony sell few million systems games will come just like last time . Then 6 years from now we will see same thing with PS4 :)

[CrumCon]

i hope it isnt true tho. But i dont expect much from PS3 launch games, cause Sony has just shipped the reference kit this month, that leave only about 3 to 4 months for devs to complete their games to meet PS3 real specification.

i dont see how dev could make a quality game within 6 months, let alone for next-gen hardware like PS3

[jako]

SCE has not yet announced the price of the console, so developers are unable to predict what audience they are targetting games at
Just mass consummers all around the world.. :)

[axia777]

What ever!!! That is what they spewed about PS2 back in 2000. What a load of horse crap. When PS3 sells tens of millions of units they game list will be just as large as PS2's. Don't listen to these people who think PS3 will be to hard to make games for. If they were right, then why is the games list in development larger for PS3 than both Revolution and 360? Why? Because it is Playstation and they know it will sell games like crazy. They are fools.

[VG Aficionado]

The article states that PS3 dev tools have only just started shipping to developers this month, while 360 tools were shipped last summer.Well, this is simply not true, is it? Unless they're talking about final development kits, even though the earlier alpha and beta kits are worth mentioning.

[axia777]

Well, this is simply not true, is it? Unless they're talking about final development kits, even though the earlier alpha and beta kits are worth mentioning.

No it is not true at all. Maybe the final SDK of the dev kit has not been out long, but the Alpha kits have been out for a while. How long I don't know, but at least a year or more. Shows even more how stupid and ignorant they are.

[Nerve-Damage]

Just noticed the posting date: Posted by JonnyRam @ 2005/10/26 13:12 JST :sleepy:

[Infernal]

Uhh arent there already more PS3 games announced and being developed than there are X360 games announced and being developed? Thats also with the 360 being out first so I wouldnt worry too much about the number of games the PS3 will have.

[axia777]

Uhh arent there already more PS3 games announced and being developed than there are X360 games announced and being developed? Thats also with the 360 being out first so I wouldnt worry too much about the number of games the PS3 will have.

Yes there are. Anyone have exact numbers? I know there are more games at Gamespot on the PS3 list than the 360 list. I know I am not worried. PS3 can not fail. It is inconceivable in every way possible.

[CrumCon]

Just noticed the posting date: Posted by JonnyRam @ 2005/10/26 13:12 JST :sleepy:

Nerve you better check the dates of the article before posting man... i almost cried when i read this news.. anyway people calm down.. its an old article.. lets move along

[LaLiLuLeLo]

I think it's a little misinterpreted.
He said 'only a level the ps3 can achieve'.
Wouldn't that simply mean you won't see the real difference between xbox 360 and ps3 games until around 2007.
We didn't really see ps2 outpacing dreamcast's capabilities until 2001.
So.....what's the fuss about?

[raVen]

yea i remember readin that a while ago. If i recall we all made fun off enterbrain since the only release rpgmaker game what... once every 2 years

President of Enterbrain, Hirokazu Hamamura, says "We are unlikely to see games exhibiting a level only PS3 can achieve until the end of 2007."

That Quote does confirm that he believes theres a level that only ps3 can achieve

[axia777]

I think it's a little misinterpreted.
He said 'only a level the ps3 can achieve'.
Wouldn't that simply mean you won't see the real difference between xbox 360 and ps3 games until around 2007.
We didn't really see ps2 outpacing dreamcast's capabilities until 2001.
So.....what's the fuss about?

MGS4 and UnReal 2007 prove that there already is a diffrence. 360 is already fallen behind. Even COD2 is not as good as the real time graphics of MGS4 and UnReal 2007. PDZ is good, also, but not really great. Even DOA 4 did not blow my mind like MGS4. And from what I have heard of the REV specs, it is only twice as powerfull as the GameCube. Sad sad sad. PS3 will out strip the competition in the first year, if not from launch. I think Sony has out done themselves this time around.

But as for reaching the full potential of PS3, I totally agree. It will take time, just like with PS2. And when that happens I think all other systems will be put to shame.

[Lekko]

Cool, so we can all expect an Xbox 900 out in 2007 to compete with the PS3. Then an Xbox 1380 in 2009, and an Xbox 3,000 Kickflip backstand Tonyhawk in 2011. Awesome.

And I agree with LaLiLuLeLo2003, they're simply stating that it will take a year for the PS3 to show off its muscle and get the upper edge.

[venomv]

Taking time to show a big differece is a little thing I like to call common sense. Most people don't have it but it still should be obvious,

[LaLiLuLeLo]

MGS4 and UnReal 2007 prove that there already is a diffrence. 360 is already fallen behind. Even COD2 is not as good as the real time graphics of MGS4 and UnReal 2007. PDZ is good, also, but not really great. Even DOA 4 did not blow my mind like MGS4. And from what I have heard of the REV specs, it is only twice as powerfull as the GameCube. Sad sad sad. PS3 will out strip the competition in the first year, if not from launch. I think Sony has out done themselves this time around.

But as for reaching the full potential of PS3, I totally agree. It will take time, just like with PS2. And when that happens I think all other systems will be put to shame.

Yeah that's true. Mgs2 had to come and shut up anyone doubting ps2's prowess over dreamcast. Same case here for ps3 over xbox. Kinda funny.
But yeah it won't take long because mgs4 should be out by this time next year :spiny: . I can't wait. But I guess I have to. That's the thing about xbox 360 games visually at least. They look good for sure but they aren't the next gen leap. They don't have me in disbelief like the last generational transitions did like psone and n64, ps2 and..dreamcast (remember when everyone first saw nfl2k?). It's not the same quantum leap with 360 like ps3 is offering. The response I got from 360 was, 'dang, that's pretty good'. The response I had for ps3 was, 'no way. holy shit'. That's how it ought to be. Nothing is out of order for ps3. All will be revealed in time, guys.

[tazz3]

The story is kinda misleading..
I have read that only the top dev teams have gotten final dev kits,
then the will ship final dev kits soon.

[Nameless]

I'm not surprised by this article or the initial thoughts regarding PS3 development. PS3 is pushing the gaming envelope with the PS3, we are going to receive cutting edge technology at a reasonable price with the PS3. (Anything under 400 bucks is a value when you consider what's under the PS3 hood.) Developers made the same statements when the PS2 launched regarding development, but we know how that turned out, over 100 million consoles sold...

If the PS3 delivers on the next-gen gaming experience the console will be very successful, expectations are high. If the PS3 stumbles it will still be a success, but the 360 will close the marketshare gap. I personally don't have a problem with this senario, if I still get quality titles at a reasonable price point. Enough said...

[axia777]

Yeah that's true. Mgs2 had to come and shut up anyone doubting ps2's prowess over dreamcast. Same case here for ps3 over xbox. Kinda funny.
But yeah it won't take long because mgs4 should be out by this time next year :spiny: . I can't wait. But I guess I have to. That's the thing about xbox 360 games visually at least. They look good for sure but they aren't the next gen leap. They don't have me in disbelief like the last generational transitions did like psone and n64, ps2 and..dreamcast (remember when everyone first saw nfl2k?). It's not the same quantum leap with 360 like ps3 is offering. The response I got from 360 was, 'dang, that's pretty good'. The response I had for ps3 was, 'no way. holy shit'. That's how it ought to be. Nothing is out of order for ps3. All will be revealed in time, guys.

True that brother man! :) MGS2 was it more me as well. But I like I said, even in the Alpha form on pre-final SDK dev kits, MGS4 already looks better than 360 launch games. It is already proven. So sad for 360.

[Z]

the article has nothing to say on how many games PS3 will have. they simply state the obvious by saying PS3 games won't show the real power of PS3 until said date. this is normal. Kojima said it will take three years for the real potential of PS2 to show- and we are still surprised with what it can do every sith months since launch till now.

also, Sony already announced the biggest dev support and working projects on PS3. there is nothing to worry about. if I were you, I'd be worried about the other consoles.

[Red_Eyes]

That article is way old. Things are different now. Sony shipped the final kit some time ago. And if you've been paying attention, you don't hear any developer complain anymore.

[Crossbar]

i hope it isnt true tho. But i dont expect much from PS3 launch games, cause Sony has just shipped the reference kit this month, that leave only about 3 to 4 months for devs to complete their games to meet PS3 real specification.

i dont see how dev could make a quality game within 6 months, let alone for next-gen hardware like PS3
I think the PS3 developers are better off than the 360 developers because the alpha and beta kits of PS3 are much closer to the final kits than the 360 alpha and beta kits in terms of CPU and GPU design. So depending on when they started the development, they could basically just recompile the game on the final kit and start the test phase.

[overclocked]

I think the PS3 developers are better off than the 360 developers because the alpha and beta kits of PS3 are much closer to the final kits than the 360 alpha and beta kits in terms of CPU and GPU design. So depending on when they started the development, they could basically just recompile the game on the final kit and start the test phase.

You so right on this one, they known for i dont know how long that their is a Geforce under the hood and those are very rear as we all know.. :bigpimp:

[digital neXus]

Well truly I don't care if they are less frequent, but quality games are what I'm looking forward to a.k.a. less/quality beats more/crappy. As for Dev kits, first games that will come out, will be on DVD 5/9 until full potential of PS3 that will be released. Then the games on Blu-ray will appear.

[The_One]

This article is pretty darn old, I think it warrants the honourable retirement ritual... Closed.