Twilight Princess Difficulty

[OutlawAdidas]

It seems that Twilight Princess will have alot more surprises than we could have hoped for


In an interview Nintendo Power held with Yoshiyuki Oyama, character designer of The Wind Waker and the man in charge of the monsters in Twilight Princess, among other things he said two things that have caught our eye and we don't want to keep from you.

It ain't much and it will probably only lead to more speculation, but this quote about Ganon definitely get's us all the more excited about the game:

"I know that everyone's wondering what going on with Link's old nemesis. All I can say now is, we're preparing more than you could possibly ever, ever, ever expect...."

Oyama-san ends the interview with the quote:

"And how will my monsters ensure that Twilight Princess is the greatest Zelda game ever? Wait and see. You won't be disappointed."

Additionally, Oyama mentioned that he feels the enemies have been much too easy in the past. The enemies and most certainly the bosses will be much more challenging then we have ever seen before in any Zelda game.




Its gonna be awesome

[Mathx]

I WANT IT NOW!

I hope that they have some cool AI abilities as well, I want to fight brain against AI, I don't want to go through a series of events (hit him with the light arrow, then attack) to defeat the boss, just pure strategy and muscle...

[The_Cat]

That's good news. One of my biggest complaints about WW was that it was too easy. I love boss fights where you never beat them on the first try and you have to learn from past failure to develop a strategy to beat them.

[IEatFriedPikmin]

thats suprising that they are actually trying to make this one difficult.

I dont think the easiness of previous ones really distracted me though. I still enjoyed wind waker immensly.

[Bloodman]

How hard is this game gonna be? I'll tell you....Imagine shadow of collosus ecept the bosses never give up or have a weakness.........that's how hard.......

[Teh Roxor!]

Additionally, Oyama mentioned that he feels the enemies have been much too easy in the past. The enemies and most certainly the bosses will be much more challenging then we have ever seen before in any Zelda game.
Harder than Zelda II? I'll believe it when I see it.

But this was actually an issue with the series. Wind Waker was far too easy. Without even trying especially hard, I was able to beat it without dying once.

[pac4life]

cool

[Ravster]

Its gonna be cool when we find out what happened with Links past enemies, such as Ganon, can't wait!!!!!!!!! And as for the difficulty, if its harder than WW in normal mode then am happy.

[Mathx]

If he makes the temple's puzzles alot harder, I'll never finish it...

I wouldn't mind harder foes, or having mre all out brawls like in WW with the armor guys and pig guards. (though it got repetative)

[Harmony]

Ahh the pig guards are genius! Sorry I love those dudes, sitting up at their lights.

Anyways, it should be interesting to see what they've come up with then. The longer it takes me to finish the game, the better basically cause I get into it more.

[Lynk Former]

MAGAZINE SCANS BITCHES!!

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[Freeman_JI]

This is the last big one i'm waiting for. The hype you guys are pushing this game better be better than OOT.

[OutlawAdidas]

I can't wait cuz the story behind how Ganon comes back better kick ass.

[OnBake Platinum]

In this one, Ganon and Tingle switch souls.


Shiggy told me.

[Bombardier]

I can't wait cuz the story behind how Ganon comes back better kick ass.
I bet he'll be even angier after what happened to him at the end of Wind Waker.
Right in the head!
I know I'd be hella pissed.

[Loomer]

Ganon will be insane x10.

[Boggy700]

All the bosses will be invincible.
And you'll have to lure them from their dungeons.
And guide them to the end of the universe.
And push them out.


Actually, I'd like to see a boss battle where it actually is invincible, and you have to go back in time and destroy it while it's still in an egg.
It would be anticlimactic.

[SuperLuigiBros]

I am ever so much more pumped for this game now.

[Generosity of God]

I bet he'll be even angier after what happened to him at the end of Wind Waker.

not really sure that is possible, since this isnt after windwaker and all.

[HolyPaladin]

I love boss fights where you never beat them on the first try and you have to learn from past failure to develop a strategy to beat them.

That's usually a big turn-off for me. I get real pissed off when I die. I like to face enough of a challenge as to keep things interesting but not so much that I'm dead all the time. A death around every turn is a good way to get my copy of a game collecting dust.

[ScratchedAt]

Gosh...I hope you guys aren't getting your hopes up TOO high... I don't want anyone to be dissappointed...

I mean...I don't EXPECT it to be a dissapointment, but you know...

[The_Cat]

MAGAZINE SCANS BITCHES!!

http://www.zhq2.com/coppermine/cpg132/index.php?cat=16

Wow! Are those cell phone camera pics? Those don't do the game justice.

[Bombardier]

not really sure that is possible, since this isnt after windwaker and all.
Well now you just took all the fun out of it.

[OutlawAdidas]

not really sure that is possible, since this isnt after windwaker and all.


if its after OoT then they have to explain how Ganon broke the seal. Therefore, the way he came back in WW would also have to be different

[SuperLuigiBros]

^How did he come back in WW? (i forgot) :(

Oh wait...yeh...Ocarina was basically a waste of time because Link saved the day, left, and Gannon came back to pwn everything. (that wasnt a spoiler btw) Have they told us where this game is in the time line?

[Generosity of God]

if its after OoT then they have to explain how Ganon broke the seal. Therefore, the way he came back in WW would also have to be different
what i remember from windwaker, if i remember correctly is that ganon didnt break the seal. rather the seal weakend over the coarse of time. my reasoning for that is because the world was flooded and the whole seal business was forgotten (so no one could take care of what needed to be taken care of).

looking at the beginning of windwaker (where the legend is told in tapestry form) the events go something like this

- hero of time defeats ganon (OoT)
- ganon mysteriously comes back
- hero didnt come back
- what happened to land of hyrule isnt known (we found out its been flooded)
- boys dress in green.

ganon came back before the world was flooded. the legend didnt say he was defeated. it just said that what happened was forgotten. so i think that the story in twilight princess is the part that was forgotten in that legend.

and so for twilight princess to fit between OoT and WW, Hyrule will have to be flooded at the end of the game.

[PSPNick]

When they first announced it I thought it was gonna be the story of the FIRST Zelda, as in the time before the Temples, like the first time Ganon came, but I guess they're waiting to do that. This sounds good cause it isnt the same old "The evil was locked forever, then escaped". I guess they're saving 'The Legend of Zelda:The Beginning' for later

[Pro A.]

I'd like the challenge to be on par with Majora, which was the toughest of the modern Zeldas with tricky level design, unconventional bosses, and a game that forced you to use your brain. Ocarina was medium in challenge and Wind Waker was mediocre, but both, thankfully, were extremely entertaining in their own way.

[Hylian-Advocate]

Wind Waker was fun and all... ...But I beat the game without EVER getting killed.

I was able to predict how to defeat most enemies/bosses... ...I am ready for a challenge for once. Give me a boss that takes a while to defeat and compile a strategy for... ...dont just have me go through a dungeon....find the new weapon....and then have me use that weapon in the boss battle the way its been done before in past Zelda games. Thats how I felt in Wind Waker at alot of points.

Then again... ...if it's as hard as it is to unlock everything in F-Zero I will be pissed....hehe.. that would never happen.

[Lynk Former]

@ Generosity of God: It's been said before the while Ganon is part of Twilight Princess he isn't the main villian. Perhaps Link was victorious, he was just victorious against another foe but wasn't able to counter Ganon's take over of Hyrule. Perhaps the way Link helped was to save the population of Hyrule from the flood in someway. These saved people however may think that the hero never came and nothing happened to save Hyrule.

So while these events of Twilight Princess did occur, there was no one to carry on the legend to the people of the Great Sea because TP Link's journey was a more secret one. After all at the Legend at the start of TWW, the only thing that's mentioned about The Hero of Time is that he defeated Ganon. Nothing is said about his other adventures leading up to the defeat of Ganon.

It's looking like Twilight Princess is actually The Lost Legend of Zelda...

[SuperLuigiBros]

Im really lost in the whole Zelda timeline. I think that the Hero of Time didnt come back at the start of WW because of Majoras Mask. What happened at the end of Majoras Mask? Did Link stay at Termina or where ever it was set?

[Lynk Former]

By the way the legend at the start of TWW is written suggests that the people see the Hero of Time as an immortal warrior. Which obviously he is not.

[P.B.]

...yeah...well im excited that they're upping the difficulty of battles as that was always a bit of a problem for me. I like to be challenged every now and then. It'd be sweet if they had a hard mode or something to play through too once you beat it, or even as an option at the beginning i guess.

[Mr. Witt]

Why do people treat OoT like Link's first adventure?

With OoT they wiped the slate clean and started the story anew, I'm not gonna be pissed if they just make TP an unrelated story to what's happened to far.

[SuperLuigiBros]

^Nintendo has said that they dont really try to link the stories together all that much, or at least its not all the way up their on their Zelda-story to-do list.

[Mr. Witt]

Exactly.

[Mirai]

But they have stated that OoT is the first.

And that Wind Waker is 100 years later.

[Lynk Former]

Why do people treat OoT like Link's first adventure?
Because Miyamoto-san said so.

[Bombardier]

It's better to think of the Legend of Zelda series as just that, a legend. That is to say, a retelling of a grand story of old times; complete with false truths, exaggerations, discontinuities, and other suchs things that work their way into stories passed down through speech or other weakly descriptive mediums.

This way, it's possible for there to be no real timeline for the series, yet subtle hints can suggest that that certain events or whole chains of them may have happened before or after others. There's nothing definative outside from the basic ideas and concepts, and that's why it's a legend.

[OutlawAdidas]

from wat I was told, Link will forever be reincarnated. So will Zelda. ganon is immortal in some way.

Thats why in WW, its link but at the same time its not really link.

[Nate]

from wat I was told, Link will forever be reincarnated. So will Zelda. ganon is immortal in some way.

Thats why in WW, its link but at the same time its not really link.

Ganon said himself in WW "yes, you are indeed the Hero of Time reincarnated". Or something along the lines of that.

But im glad to hear this news and hope that I will not be dissappointed. I want these boss battles to be epic, especially Ganon. I want this mother fucker to tower over Link. I want this dude to be a monster. Sure he was big in OoT but its much more satisfying to take such a huge boss down, and it will make the game that much more fun.

[OutlawAdidas]

Ganon said himself in WW "yes, you are indeed the Hero of Time reincarnated". Or something along the lines of that.

But im glad to hear this news and hope that I will not be dissappointed. I want these boss battles to be epic, especially Ganon. I want this mother fucker to tower over Link. I want this dude to be a monster. Sure he was big in OoT but its much more satisfying to take such a huge boss down, and it will make the game that much more fun.


no, I mean I was told before WW that link would be reincarnated.

[Sovereign]

Gannon was plenty satisfying in OoT, just a tad easy. I loved kickin' and pwnin' him. Nintendo is just making sure I love this Gannon battle even more.

[OutlawAdidas]

Oh man, I know they are gonna have u fight him as a wolf. Nintendo better make this Zelda into the best thing ever

[Lynk Former]

Ganon said himself in WW "yes, you are indeed the Hero of Time reincarnated". Or something along the lines of that.
That can still be interpreted as "I can see that you are the hero of this era."

[MicVlaD]

OoT Gannon was too easy, sadly enough. Gannon's monster form in TWW on the other hand was too dull and tedious, but they made that up when you had to battle his human form. That boss fight was pimp.

I really hope that the TP Gannon has neither of these flaws.