Why do people think ipod is alone?

[Gegenki]

Why do people think that the ipod is the be all and end all!!!
Just saw this on a friend's site and became quiet annoyed because it just confirms what i've been saying for months.

IT was like a questionair on their site and they had:
ipods/mp3s: Ipods

an ipod is an mp3 player!!!

I find it really distrubing that people are so stupid that they do not realise that the ipod isn't the only product of its kind on the market.

Why are people so blind!

[Fats]

Well, let's see. They offer the best service, which is iTunes. The actual functionality of an iPod cannot be beaten either, it's fantastically smooth in comparison to other MP3's players that I've used.

Really, it comes down to marketing and what the public perceive as "cool" and the iPod certainly has that box ticked.

[Eidorian]

I've never seen a Creative or iRiver commercial. However I'd seen dozens of iPod ones. Apple touts the simplicity of the iPod and clean design. That and the iTunes music store and FairPlay DRM aren't as crippling as what Windows Media offers.

[WolfmanNCSU]

Its the marketing. People say, hand me my iPod and point to any other mp3 player in the world that is actually not an iPod. I remember my brother having the Dell player and calling it his iPod. I corrected him everytime, HAHA. Now he actually owns an iPod, so he is calling it right.

That bothers me a little too, but not just iPods, but when someones says something like "NIC Card". Sigh, its just NIC - its not your Networking Interface Card Card....HAHA

[goku2057]

It (use) to be the same with copy machines. You didn't copy it, you <i> Xeroxed</i> it. At least down in teh fithy dirty south.

Also, I agree with Fats. I've used several mp# players, and the iPod wins hands down. I'll admit th espace per dollar isn't the greatest, but it's just so...simple. You pay for ease of use, as well as the name. I mean iPod jsut sounds...<i>cool<i>.

[Eidorian]

It (use) to be the same with copy machines. You didn't copy it, you <i> Xeroxed</i> it. At least down in teh fithy dirty south.

Also, I agree with Fats. I've used several mp# players, and the iPod wins hands down. I'll admit th espace per dollar isn't the greatest, but it's just so...simple. You pay for ease of use, as well as the name. I mean iPod jsut sounds...<i>cool<i>.Yeah, I get vB Code and HTML mixed up sometimes too.

iPod seems to be synonymous with MP3 players now. I get parents saying they got their child a cheap iPod and it turns out to be a cheapo no name MP3 player.

[Fats]

My friend calls this his iPod...

http://images.americas.creative.com/images/products/galleries/gal10274_full_1.jpg

I prefer to call it his Breezeblock, but each to his own...;)

[Eidorian]

My friend calls this his iPod...

http://images.americas.creative.com/images/products/galleries/gal10274_full_1.jpg

I prefer to call it his Breezeblock, but each to his own...;)Yes, and it's a Zencast or Blogcast.

[NoZ]

^I used to own that player. I sold it on ebay though. I have a DigiArmor S20 now, got it off ebay in place of my touch.

[Sendok]

whenever you can get the market to use your brand as the name of all similar products you know you've won. (ie: hand me a kleenex for any tissue)

[Dorbin]

^ Was just about to say exactly that.

It used to be the same way with Nintendo. In fact, with old people, it still is sometimes.

[Gegenki]

True my mum kept callin my mp3 player an ipod.

You think thats why Intel named their new processor "Core"

So marketing is the key to all.

People I know who brought ipods couldn't figure out how to use it.
My uncle even took his back.
But then again, my sister couldn't figure out hwo to open her music in windows media player instead of sonic stage
Now that I think about it, I dont know why I hate itunes. - whats so good about it. I had to install it to get the quicktime stuff even though i dont use quicktime :mad:

[ScratchedAt]

My friend has a creative... they aren't bad at all...

Obviously different to use...

[Teh Roxor!]

I use a Zen Touch now, and if I were to buy a new one it would be the Cowon iAudio x5. (http://www.cowonamerica.com/products/iaudio/x5/)

It's not that I have anything against the iPod, but this simply does everything I want it to. I especially like how it mounts as a UMS device instead of needing software to be installed. I may be wrong, but I don't think the iPod does that.

Also, does the iPod play OGG Vorbis and FLAC?

[Jon]

Do you say Cleanex or Tissues?
Do you say Dumpsters?

Both are name brands that people use all the time.

[Eidorian]

True my mum kept callin my mp3 player an ipod.

You think thats why Intel named their new processor "Core"

So marketing is the key to all.

People I know who brought ipods couldn't figure out how to use it.
My uncle even took his back.
But then again, my sister couldn't figure out hwo to open her music in windows media player instead of sonic stage
Now that I think about it, I dont know why I hate itunes. - whats so good about it. I had to install it to get the quicktime stuff even though i dont use quicktime :mad:Wow, this is the fourth or fifth time here that people think Quicktime is only bundled with iTunes.

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/standalone.html

It's getting scary.

I couldn't figure out how to yes the Zen Micro or Xtra in 30 seconds. So, I went with the iPod. That and iTunes is made of WIN.

[WolfmanNCSU]

Wow, this is the fourth or fifth time here that people think Quicktime is only bundled with iTunes

....

It's getting scary.

I did not realise people did not know this either. You can get...

iTune w/ QuickTime
-or-
Just QuickTime

You used to be able to get just iTunes too, but I have not seen that in a while, but either way, I update my QT when I update iTunes.

[Sendok]

^well ITMS uses quicktime so its an all or nada for that

[Eidorian]

^well ITMS uses quicktime so its an all or nada for thatTrue, iTunes does have a lot of Quicktime crossover now.

[Kliq]

I used to have a Creative Nomad Zen and people used to call it a brick, so I bought an iPod and now I'm cool.

[Moses]

I use a Zen Touch now, and if I were to buy a new one it would be the Cowon iAudio x5. (http://www.cowonamerica.com/products/iaudio/x5/)

It's not that I have anything against the iPod, but this simply does everything I want it to. I especially like how it mounts as a UMS device instead of needing software to be installed. I may be wrong, but I don't think the iPod does that.

Also, does the iPod play OGG Vorbis and FLAC?


Apple has it's own lossless codec, and if you use OGG you are weird. :shocked:

And yes, the iPod is a UMS after you do the initial install on your main computer.

[Eidorian]

Apple has it's own lossless codec, and if you use OGG you are weird. :shocked:

And yes, the iPod is a UMS after you do the initial install on your main computer..ogg and FLAC is a tad bit overrated by the open source community.

Sadly, the iPod can't be a UMS device. They don't want to make it easy to copy music off of it.

[Jon]

Uhh, I have Quicktime and Itunes and I don't even have an Ipod. Quicktime has been around years before Ipods even came out.

[Sendok]

^I was saying that the ITMS sells video in a quicktime format so if you dl iTunes they bundle it w/the player so the person dosen't have to dl a new quicktime when they want to buy a video. So its not totally just an iPod thing.

[Teh Roxor!]

Apple has it's own lossless codec, and if you use OGG you are weird. :shocked:
I don't have a boner for OGG or anything, I just have a lot of files is that format. I suppose I could convert them to something else, but as you probably know, converting from one lossy format to another is not a great idea.

[Eidorian]

I don't have a boner for OGG or anything, I just have a lot of files is that format. I suppose I could convert them to something else, but as you probably know, converting from one lossy format to another is not a great idea.I normally just SoX Wrap .ogg files to .mp3. The iTunes plug-in isn't all that great.

[Gegenki]

So - I've had itunes all this time for no reason!!! :mad:
I think its just because it came bundled and I didnt realise I could get quicktime on its own that I was so angry.
I have alot of crap on my computer and unessiary programs taking up minor space is a minor issue to me but somethin about itunes comeing with quicktime, neither of which I wanted, all I wanted was the H.243 - i think thats right - the mpeg 4 in quicktime, just made me really angry.

[Eidorian]

Quicktime and iTunes should be under 100 MB total. That's not that much space for those applications.

[Moses]

.ogg and FLAC is a tad bit overrated by the open source community.

Sadly, the iPod can't be a UMS device. They don't want to make it easy to copy music off of it.


Yes it can. Just not for your iTunes.

[Eidorian]

Yes it can. Just not for your iTunes.I usually use Senuti to extract music off but the database structure makes it difficult for just drag and drop.

[Teh Roxor!]

Yes it can. Just not for your iTunes.
If I have to install extra software to have my computer see it as a storage device then it isn't really UMS, is it?

Also, is there any validity in this?
Ultimately, MP3 players are about the music--so which one sounds the best? Determining the best-sounding player is a tricky task since many of the top devices utilize the same sound chips. In fact, unless you have the golden ears of an audiophile, it's difficult to notice the difference between devices. Still, we, the editors and CNET Labs, put them to the test using a playlist ranging from Air to Bob Dylan, comprising a variety of genres encoded at 320Kbps VBR MP3, setting equal volume levels, and disabling any EQ or sound-effects settings. Using a pair of our trusty Grado headphones, we judged sound quality in a blind sound test and came up with some consistent (and interesting) results. Described as warm and true, the sound quality of Cowon's iAudio X5 fared very well, as did the iRiver H320 right behind it. Toshiba's Gigabeat F20 had mixed reviews ("tinny," "good for techno" and "slightly processed with a hint of hiss") as did Creative's "tight" and "hiss-free" Zen Touch. But it was the brand-new Sony NW-HD5 that consistently ranked number one, delivering MP3s "with a crispy warm seal." Which consistently ranked last? Apple's iPod Photo.
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6450_7-6247126-1.html?tag=prmo1

[Eidorian]

If I have to install extra software to have my computer see it as a storage device then it isn't really UMS, is it?

Also, is there any validity in this?

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6450_7-6247126-1.html?tag=prmo1Then again the iPod Photo had the highest score and was Editor's Choice. Well 11 months ago.

[Moses]

If I have to install extra software to have my computer see it as a storage device then it isn't really UMS, is it?

Technically. It is the same software that you need to transfer music and it only needs to be on your one music transfer compooter.