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Z
04-05-2006, 08:21 PM
Tech titans back for a second round in clash over video decoding patent

Networking technology firm Lucent has reignited a patent battle with Microsoft over the use of a specific video decoding technique in the Xbox 360 console, which Lucent claims infringes in a patent that it has held for over a decade.

According to Lucent, the MPEG2 decoder used by the Xbox 360 for some of its video functionality infringes on US patent number 5,227,878, which dates from mid-1993 and describes a method for "adaptive coding and decoding of frames and fields of video."

It's not the first time that the two companies have tussled over the patent - just over a year ago, a judge ruled in Microsoft's favour in an earlier case, although that summary judgement was handed down because of a typo in the patent, and it was made clear that Lucent was free to file a further case against Microsoft in future.

Lucent has now had the typo corrected in the patent, and is back to fight another round in court - this time accusing Microsoft of a wilful infringement of the patent due to the use of the technique in the Xbox 360, and pointing out that it has informed the software giant of the infringement but has failed to reach a settlement prior to filing suit.

Of course, the whole case is accompanied by the usual nonsensical sabre-rattling where Lucent demands that the Xbox 360 be withdrawn from the market, but what it ultimately boils down to is that the firm is seeking a cash payout - and it is now hoping for a jury trial to be convened to resolve the issue.
http://gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=15907

Coded-Dude
04-05-2006, 09:00 PM
you know, while this is rather humerous(because of its history) I feel that technology patents are going to be the end of many large powerful IT corporations......

venomv
04-05-2006, 09:02 PM
Of course, the whole case is accompanied by the usual nonsensical sabre-rattling where Lucent demands that the Xbox 360 be withdrawn from the market, but what it ultimately boils down to is that the firm is seeking a cash payout - and it is now hoping for a jury trial to be convened to resolve the issue.
http://gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=15907


Yeah, that's gonna happen...........

speed stick
04-06-2006, 12:00 AM
I read this on another site and laughed at their demands to remove the 360 from shelves. These people are stupid if they think thats going to be met.

Coded-Dude
04-06-2006, 12:07 AM
they(not lucent obviously) did it to Sony with the controller infringement........(tried to get consoles, controllers, and games removed)

Garfunkel
04-06-2006, 09:23 AM
oh yeah, as if they are gonna pull it of the market

Freeman_JI
04-06-2006, 11:43 AM
either way MS will bankrupt them or buy them out. But yeah typical tactic see a patent infringement a your product design, wait for it... wait for it let the product get sucessful, then BOOM thank you very much payment for Infrigement on X units sold. Same thing immersion did to Sony, MS and Nintendo, though sony is getting deep, MS have good laywers if they can't win they'll cut and run.

Z
04-06-2006, 04:00 PM
they should do something about letting patent holders sue whenever they liked. is it ok to let them 'wait' a decade for them ti start suing for example? some patent infringement cases are onlu filed after a long time of the offence.

Viper
04-06-2006, 04:09 PM
either way MS will bankrupt them or buy them out. But yeah typical tactic see a patent infringement a your product design, wait for it... wait for it let the product get sucessful, then BOOM thank you very much payment for Infrigement on X units sold. Same thing immersion did to Sony, MS and Nintendo, though sony is getting deep, MS have good laywers if they can't win they'll cut and run.
Immersion did not sue Nintendo. Nintendo owns it's own patented rumble technology and has since 1997.

More than likely MS will request an appeal if Lucent wins which will grant MS the opportunity to continue to sell the systems.


Sony did the same with Immersion after they lost. Only a few weeks ago, Sony failed the appeal again and has only one more chance or else the suit will go through as Immersion intended and Sony will be forced to either sign a hefty royalty and licensing contract or pull the PS2, the DualShock 2 and listed 40 games from shelves.

Don't ever say that won't happen. Do some research, patent infringment has pulled plenty of products from shelves.