Final Fantasy 7 Remake [Archive]

Bsack

04-21-2006, 07:32 AM

**This is not a for sure thing either and may be a rumor**

I read today out of my GameInformer Magazine that Square Enix may remake Final Fantasy 7 with the battle system of Final Fantasy 12. I would specify the page number, but I don't have my magazine with me right now, but I'll let you guys know what page and what month magazine it is. I know it has the new Red Steel game that will be made for the revolution as the cover. Well i thought you guys would appreciate this if you are a hardcore fan like myself.

yoshaw

04-21-2006, 08:20 AM

LaLiLuLeLo

04-21-2006, 08:24 AM

Man that would make me a happy camper.
They went from, 'no plans to remake final fantasy 7 on ps3' which was the biggest cock tease ever, to, 'if there's enough demand we may do it,' to rumors of it actually happening.

Oh boy.

Sypher

04-21-2006, 09:06 AM

Great news! But, with the FF12 battle system? IDK, that just seems out of place. I'd prefer FFX or X-2 battle system for a remake. FFVII just doesnt shout realtime to me IMHO

04-21-2006, 09:39 AM

oh no, not another FF7 remake thread....

chrismt

04-21-2006, 11:00 AM

I demand scans of both magazines!

I would like a remake of FFVII since I never played through more than 1/20th (literally) of the original. I want to see what all the fuss is about.

Marjoh

04-21-2006, 11:07 AM

I've been waiting for Sphere Grid 2.0 so I really hope they bring that system back or something similar (not necessary FFVII). Materia is part of the plot/story line. So if they do remake seven I wonder how they'll approach or upgrade the Materia system. The old one may be too simple for today's crowd.

And guys, I have a confession to make... I've never beaten FFVII. I have done almost every side quest, mini games, or what not (even bred a gold Choco). But I did not pay attention to the other characters as much as I did with the others and did not come as prefer as I should have for the final battle (I didn't know it was just around the corner). And therefore was never able to beat Sephy's final form (that bloody comet attack keeps killing my two sidekick, so I use a few items but then run out, and he goes and kill Cloud). I tried to get out of the crater (to stock up), but I couldn't. My only gamesave was that on the last save. When my friend brings the game back, I'll probably go and try to finally finish it (but if they make an announcement at E3 regarding a remake, then I'll just wait for that). It's kinda sad and yet funny.

.aZF

n1n9tean

04-21-2006, 11:09 AM

I've been waiting for Sphere Grid 2.0

same here.

L3XO

04-21-2006, 11:22 AM

actually eyah i saw that on the squaresoft forum some mod talking about it

gablar16

04-21-2006, 01:06 PM

**This is not a for sure thing either and may be a rumor**

I read today out of my GameInformer Magazine that Square Enix may remake Final Fantasy 7 with the battle system of Final Fantasy 12."

If they do that as far as I'm concerned they are not remaking it, they are making a spinoff. I want materia. I think that was the best FF battle system eva! If I can it my way it should be done exactly the same way but with a much richer game world, and a bigger gold saucer. BUt who I'm I kidding.. I would buy it even it use the battle system of :gunner:FFX-2:rocket:

venomv

04-21-2006, 02:14 PM

What was wrong with the battle system of FFX-2? I think that was the best battle system so far, the rest of the game wasn't so good though.

TEEDA

04-21-2006, 02:16 PM

Oh dear, I want to keep the Materia System :-D

gablar16

04-21-2006, 02:43 PM

What was wrong with the battle system of FFX-2? I think that was the best battle system so far, the rest of the game wasn't so good though.

I'm glad you like it, but it is definitly not to my taste. Its too much like playing with Barbies. I'm sure it has its strong sides but the presentation of it just isn't my taste. If Cloud had to change into a mini-skirt to fight sephiroth it woul ddefinitly ruin the immersion for me. :shrug:

Carn

04-21-2006, 02:48 PM

Oh dear, I want to keep the Materia System :-D

well the use of materia is integral to the story so I doubt they would remove that.

Viano

04-21-2006, 03:03 PM

What was wrong with the battle system of FFX-2? I think that was the best battle system so far, the rest of the game wasn't so good though.

Just wait till you see the FFXII.

TEEDA

04-21-2006, 03:20 PM

well i ve tried FFXII in Japanese and the battle systeme seems to be okay but It reminds just a little bit of FFXI , looks like a kind of FFXI offline but more dynamic.
I prefer the old school turn by turn of FFVII and older FF the only RPG with real time battle systeme i loved were the Star Ocean battle system. that was really cool.
Also i m waiting for Valkyrie profile Lenneth.
But yeah Carn is true , The materia System is a part of the FFVII world.

goku2057

04-21-2006, 03:23 PM

I like the Turn-Based too. I thought they hit gold with the FFX system, and the sphere grid was very innovative. Heck. I could care less as long as tehy keep it turn based.

CygnusXI

04-21-2006, 03:30 PM

FF7 with FF12 battle sys = Broke.
Don't you dare Squeenix!
Argh $&%^###%

I played the FF12 demo, and I don't care for it.
I don't like controlling one character, while the "AI" controlls the others, all in "real time"

FF7 was turn based, strategy--- Keep it that way!
If I want an action Rpg, I'll get one.
:gunner:

kaphwan

04-21-2006, 03:43 PM

Sphere Grid = Awesome.

Materia = Needing 30 000 AP to level something up with like 3 AP per fight.
Also known as "Screw that, I'm playing something else". Otherwise nice idea.

FFX's battle system pwned. Imagine an even bigger sphere grid. I also like FF9's idea of "equip this weapon. Get this ability whilst equipped, then with sufficient AP you don't need the weapon for the ability".

For the record, FFX-2's spheregrid means not having to predict what type of battle you're about to face. It was just implemented poorly. Otherwise brilliant concept.

venomv

04-21-2006, 04:13 PM

I'm glad you like it, but it is definitly not to my taste. Its too much like playing with Barbies. I'm sure it has its strong sides but the presentation of it just isn't my taste. If Cloud had to change into a mini-skirt to fight sephiroth it woul ddefinitly ruin the immersion for me. :shrug:

The dress grid idea is good, the accual characters and their attitudes and their clothes sucked, but the system was good non the less, in my opinoin.

And to whomever said it, I played the FFXII demo, and I need to play the game before I make my final desicion, but I like it so far.

But I think FFVII could work with FFXII's battle system, it couldn't be indentical, but close, but if they are going to do a remake I would rather have the original battle system, just update the graphics and add some more minigames.

OmniCloud

04-21-2006, 05:04 PM

For those who knock the new system I played the demo and feel that FFXll seems to be one of the best battle systems yet, I'd give it a shot before I start bashing it. I do believe that a FFX style battle system would be used for a remake though. The main objective for remakes would be to appeal to old fans and at the same time gather in new fans as well. New graphics and cutscenes, elaborating on the story, and just having a broader, up-to-date view of Midgar and all the other places of FFVll is enough to sell the game. They don't need a whole new gameplay element for that...I really hope they do someting though, fans have been screaming for this for years! Even since the early PS2 days. I know their doing all the spin-offs but Squeenix knows what we REALY want. They could even incorporate the advent children movie as well. Or maybe we'll get to play as clould when he was still in soldier.(I think that might be what the PSP game is though) Anyway, if they put some effort into, Square Enix could have a real hit on their hands, and a guaranteed system seller.

LaLiLuLeLo

04-21-2006, 08:24 PM

I haven't tried it, but ff12 got a bunch of good reviews in japan, so I'm optimistic. Open mind guys. However I wouldn't want them to change the battle system from the original because I liked it, it was good...unless they used ffx's system because it's tops.

Bsack

04-21-2006, 11:18 PM

I liked FF9's battlesystem and ability system by far the best, but I would prefer the game to remade exactly how it was just with updated graphics. Oh yeah and tons more sidequests and I hope they remake it with a world map too because I miss the world maps. But I guess they won't have a world map because it will be in the style of FF12. Bye bye world map. Oh and I gave my friend my issue of GameInformer, but I do remember looking at it and I think it was the May issue and was issue 153 (I believe).

If anybody at all agrees with me on this point then say so. I think they should remake all of the Final Fantasy games (well at least 1-6) with graphic updates of PS3 quality. That would definitely be nice, anybody else agree with that?

CreativeWriter

04-22-2006, 01:22 AM

Well, I haven't played FFVII, so a remake to see what all the fuss is about would be fine with me. My fav. RPG is FFX, and FFXII's demo felt very strange (I was also disappointed in the graphics, which looked identical to X-2 to me, a game I hated). I didn't know what to do during the battles, just sitting there while my characters fought. I like to micromanage the battles in traditional, turn-based RPGs. DQ VIII, which I'm only about 70 hrs into, has been a blast. Now I also like hack n' slash RPGs, but FFXII was something in between, just watching the battle unfold = not fun for me. I know the game got good reviews, so I'll probably buy it, but I'll be all excited for PS3 then anyway, so maybe I'll wait to see what kind of RPGs PS3 has...

TEEDA

04-22-2006, 01:23 AM

I don't know if you remember this game but there was a fighting game called Ehrgeiz which was good.
http://www.ff7citadel.com/gameinfo/cam_ehrgeiz2.shtml
http://pwp.netcabo.pt/gandamaluke/cloud.jpghttp://sefirosu.homestead.com/files/Ehrgeiz.jpg
http://yannick.fleurit.free.fr/GameDesign/Contres%20Screenshots/Ehrgeiz%20Interrupt-03.jpghttp://www.ncsx.com/www/ncs0316/ehrgeiz2.jpg

Also if you' ve seen or played KH or KH2 ( Kingdom hearts II ) they could make a king of action RPG with FFVII. I know there was Dirge of Cerberus but it was not as good as it was said to be.
And there 's C risis Core FFVII for PSP which will be revealed next E3.

oh by the way , I ve got a little good video from a Mod from the game called Jedi cademy for PC, where you can have characters from FFVII cloud and sephiroth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyQoyCpqgrA :-)

MrDenny

04-22-2006, 01:40 AM

A FF Remake wouldn't be as fun. Im sure the gameplay and graphics would be enjoyable, but the story will be a dud for those who have beaten FFVII. Fans are going to know that "Someone" dies and it just ruins the game because you know the whole story. I doubt theres goeing to be a remake.

TEEDA

04-22-2006, 01:56 AM

Yeah i kinda agree with you , Nomura said long time ago before thinking of a remake : ' FFVII is on the Playstation and will stay on the Playstation and there s no need to rush for a remake ".
And I think because it s an RPG and an absolutely good RPG that its difficult to make it again.
because when you play FFVII it gives you a special feeling.

Saibo

04-22-2006, 02:28 AM

I would kill for a FF7 remake, i never completed the orginal game, nor bought it.

Viano

04-22-2006, 04:58 AM

you know, the best thing about the ffxi system is that theres actually "NO" loading time before the battles...

and Teeda that game was awsome.

Infernal

04-22-2006, 05:01 AM

Everyone seems mad at XII's battle system because they cant control their characters... You do all realize you can turn off the computer control of your characters and control all 3 yourself, people really need to know more about something before they say it sucks. As for VII if they remake it they should keep the materia system, even if they make it realtime instead of turn based, you could easily have the best of both worlds.

However I would prefer if they remade VII EXACTLY the way it was before, but better graphics and sound (obviously the point of a "remake"). I would also maybe like a few more minigames at Gold Saucer and I hope they would add a new set of quests after you beat the game that show you the aftermath more, and allow new challenges like new weapons and whatnot. If they were after it wouldnt effect the original plot and would keep the game the same great way it was before.

Another idea is with blu-ray they could bundle the remake with the Advent Children movie on the same disk and that would help business.

kaphwan

04-22-2006, 06:24 AM

I thought by "remake" they meant "True Sequel".

I haven't seen the ending of FF7 (playing it now. Any good ways to get my materia levelled?). FF8 I know left everything with a good amount of closure, right down to Seifer becoming a more placid person and Zell finally getting to eat those damn hotdogs.

FFX had room for a sequel, so they did it. Would a sequel for Seven work? I think if they could make Advent Children work then they could definitely make an FFVII-2 work.

Edit: Thanks Teeda for reminding me how much Ehrigez (sp?) pwned.

TEEDA

04-22-2006, 11:28 AM

please you're welcome , and here is a short clip of what ehrgeiz was about :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9byz3noGnmk&search=ehrgeiz

venomv

04-22-2006, 12:26 PM

I loved Ehrgeiz, impossable to find in stores though.

I haven't seen the ending of FF7 (playing it now. Any good ways to get my materia levelled?)

Depends on how far you are in the game, Cid and Cloud both get a 3x materia weapon, if you don't have either of those you can buy 2x materia growth armor pretty early in the game. And if I remember right Cactuars give 10AP each, but you will need to get kinda lucky to hit them, most if not all of Cloud's weapons have 255 accuaracy so that isn't a problem, Tifa can get the godhand weapon with 255 acc, Vincent has one, and Cait Sith might have one too, can't remember much of the rest. The only place I can think of the find Cactuars easy is a dessert by Costa Del Sol(?) and Middel (I think that is the name, the town that has the ride to Gold Saucer in it) that may only be accessable by black/green/gold chocobo. It has been a while, lol.

04-22-2006, 12:46 PM

you know what? no matter how good a potential remake maybe, it can never live up to the psycological excellence that fans make it to be. don't get me wrong, the game was a classic, but all the circumstances made it more than what it really is as time passes. there will never be a game or sequel that could possibly trump the spot of classics like Goldeneye, FF7, Mario 64 and very few others in the mind of those gamers that lived that moment.
it's a pschological thing really. I loved FF7 very much. I was obsessed with it. but when I played FF8, it was my new found RPG love. it happened again with FF10 and I am sure FF12 will raise the bar again for me. I enjoy great games, but I don't put an imaginarry barrier that will put a damper on me enjoyoing other games generations later.

TEEDA

04-22-2006, 01:09 PM

Yeah I agree with you , but thinking about it there was hours and hours of gameplay , and mlots of mini games like The gold Saucer game center, Motorbike, Snowboarding game, submarine game, The battle arena to earn cloud's last limit break ( wowwww Omnislash ).
and having the Golden Chocobo was quite hard lol. Earning all the Master Materias too there was 30 or more materias in the game and if you missed something sometimes you could not go back and have to re do the game or the last save another time.
The Story line was ....amazing lots of surprise, and the characters , Sephiroth ...Cloud ...Rufus , Nanaki .
But anyway i love alle games and Final Fantasy made with Tetsuya Nomura chracters. I think he is one of the best character design in the video game industry , know what ? i would have loved having the " unknowns" from Kingdom hearts II in a Final Fantasy game.
And Now he is doing FF PS3 or FFXIII whatever it is called, if the design of the game will be good i ll be fine.
I don't really like RPGs with middle aged style ( i didn t like FFIX design) and I don't really like FFXII design with some FF tactics stuffs okay it s ff tactics staff + others)
But well I prefer FFVII , FFVIII and FFX graphic style and characters with an apocalyptic world.
But well FFXII was high rated so it' s a good game.Like most of the FFs.

Viano

04-22-2006, 04:31 PM

well xii is pretty middle-aged, and i prefer something different too lol

anyways i think ffvii remake just wont happen lol

err_ok

04-22-2006, 04:48 PM

ok this will be the only reason i buy a ps3

Applefiend

04-22-2006, 05:23 PM

They're so over ambitious these Square Enix fellas. Take FF7, replace the digital control with the analogue control we're used to... I'm happy. I'd pay 20 bucks for that.

Sephiroth_VII

04-22-2006, 06:38 PM

know what ? i would have loved having the " unknowns" from Kingdom hearts II in a Final Fantasy game.
They're called Nobodies. And the hooded people are calling themselves Organization XIII.

I don't think I need to tell you guys how much I want a FF VII remake. Though if they remade VIII, I'd be satisfied too. However, if theyt don't include A LOT of new stuff, I don't know whether I'll buy it. I want more info on SOLDIER, what happened to Sephiroth in the lifestream, who's the real Sephiroth, a new WEAPON, more limits, minigames, weapons, minibosses, materia, etc...

I'd like to have a diamond chcobo to. It's ability? It should be able to run 10x faster than the Golden one. Also, they should keep the World Map idea for the remake, since many scenes would be hard to make without it. IF they keep the world map, it should be greatly expanded. With the capacity of blu-ray, it shouldn't be a problem either.

@Applefiend: :fighting: . Don't give them any ideas!!!!:rant:

Homeru

04-22-2006, 07:29 PM

I hope it’s really is a remake and not some port with better graphics and other obvious enhancements (even though it’s a great game it can still be greater). I want better gameplay, lots of downloadable content, I want better story telling, I want added story, I want more story to be explained and not leave holes in the story, have the original battle system be greatly Improved, lots of customization, it better not have any dialog (optional)cause its blu-ray so all characters ought to be talking, have more variety of materia, more variety of weapons, added enemies or bosses, Be able to use Sepheroth in a side quest or something in that nature, and please keep the Barbie and Disney sh1T away from this masterpiece. Don't forget some sweet online play.

One more thing, it would be better than a remake is if they made a sequel instead.

frosty

04-22-2006, 07:42 PM

here's a thought, take advantage of Blu-Ray's capacity and give us voice acting all the way through.

Bsack

04-22-2006, 08:18 PM

I please keep the Barbie and Disney sh1T away from this masterpiece. Don't forget some sweet online play.

Kingdom Hearts is a great game you need to open up that narrow mind of yours. Did you have bad experiences growing up and watching disney movies? This game refreshes my memory on a lot of movies I used to watch all the time growing up. What would you need online play for? Only downloadable content (maybe), but other than downloadable content there is no need for online play.

Final Fantasy 7 Remake would be a great thing to do, but I think if they remade these they should remake FF 1-6 (at the very least).

Sypher

04-22-2006, 08:34 PM

If they did do a remake for FFVII what would you want them to focus more on?
I could careless about bringing it up to PS3 leve improved graphics as long as they capture the ENTIRE story(ffvii, AC, DoC, CC, BC,etc.). a sequel is not possible, the ending was pretty closed, well after AC anyway.

IMHO FFVIII is much more deserving of a remake. FFVII has a sense of nostalgia when playing it, while FFVIII was right on the edge of trying to be PS2 level. It almost seemed like the game was made for PS2 but they had to port it to PS1.

WOOOT!!! 100th post!!!!!

Bsack

04-22-2006, 11:59 PM

I take it a lot of you did not like Final Fantasy 9 and I thought that was the best game of the series. The ability system, fighting, and story were all top notch. I loved how you could learn new abiilties depending on what weapon you used. That was just great.

Infernal

04-23-2006, 12:25 AM

Tail = Fail :moon:
No but really I wasnt a fan of the storyline, I didnt like the art style, and I hated how you learned an ability off of a weapon which made it difficult to know if you were truely mastering your characters. The one thing I liked about FFIX was the chocobo system, if they combined that with the FFVII chocobo system it would be the best ever.

Freak

04-23-2006, 12:58 AM

Sephiroth_VII

04-23-2006, 01:10 AM

What was wrong with VIII? It's actually my second fave FF. If it had a final boss like Sephiroth, it'd be no. 1.

8_Bit

04-23-2006, 02:50 AM

VII was a really good story. I'd like to see a remake for that reason alone.

I loved the Sphere Grid of X, and a lot of other elements as well, but some of the pointless repetitive tasks, esp. the dodging of 200 lightning strikes, just about ruined all the potential greatness of X for me.

I'd love a VII remake with the Sphere Grid.

kaphwan

04-23-2006, 03:19 AM

VII remake with the Sphere Grid, with GFs but incorporated without the Junctioning of magic.

Just the menu/character/party/etc abilities, but stat growing is achieved through the Sphere Grid of a character. The GF-dependant abilities are found in the GF's own unique Sphere Grid.

The level of a character is a calculation based on the averages of all the stats compared to the maximum possible that can be attained, i.e. Level 100 is only achieved when you have 255 of all stats.

The same with GF's and abilities. GF's level is a rough mark between 1 and 100 based on how many abilities you have. Like 20+ STR, etc. These stat bonus abilities can be equipped and can make the stat go above 255. But the stats of GF's are metaphysically bound to the summoner/equipper of the GF. Much like Yuna's stats determining the Aeon's stats in FFX.

Wow that makes alot of sense to me. But it would be very complicated to those new to FF.

Infernal

04-23-2006, 04:01 AM

If they were to remake VII they kind of have no choice but to keep materia, it is an important part of the storyline and evolution of the game.

Pimpwerx

04-23-2006, 04:45 AM

If they were to remake VII they kind of have no choice but to keep materia, it is an important part of the storyline and evolution of the game.
Yeah, Materia was great. Maybe add subclasses to allow more combinations.

I'm starting to believe in the remake just b/c they have a lot of art assets prepared right now from the movie. Why not use those detailed models and scale back? If they add side-quests, or an online aspect, then I'm sold. PEACE.

kaphwan

04-23-2006, 12:22 PM

If they were to remake VII they kind of have no choice but to keep materia, it is an important part of the storyline and evolution of the game.

True that. The design I put up is just my vision of the perfect system. Which is different for everybody.

jaxmkii

04-23-2006, 06:47 PM

ok this will be the only reason i buy a ps3 your loss...

BTW...

F#$% YOU! not all americans are backwards hicks watching hehaw in the trailer park. some of us can, and do think :asshole:

err_ok

04-23-2006, 07:02 PM

where did the :rant: come from...

alto_voltage

04-23-2006, 07:59 PM

i never really played this game before so i hope they remake it cuz all my friends always say how good it was n it'll be new to me

jaxmkii

04-23-2006, 08:38 PM

where did the :rant: come from... read your own quote than look where i live

LaLiLuLeLo

04-23-2006, 09:29 PM

connecticut?
--
yeah, not all americans are morons. Just the ones they put on t.v. and in public office.

jaxmkii

04-23-2006, 09:31 PM

^^^ yes ok im over that moving on...

ok Advent children is that movie based on the game or a continuation of the story?

when is it due to launch? (the movie)

Sephiroth_VII

04-23-2006, 09:36 PM

It's launching in the US and europe tomorrow, and it is a continuation. It happens 2 years after the end of VII. For info, I recommend this site (www.adventchildren.net).

Effulgence

04-23-2006, 09:39 PM

Its a continuation of the story. It came out in Japan a long time ago and i believe comes out in the USA next month. Ive started seeing commercials on TV.

jaxmkii

04-23-2006, 09:41 PM

^^^ poopie i never played the game go after the movie if they remake the game... its going to be a prequil for me

LaLiLuLeLo

04-23-2006, 09:41 PM

funny thing is, everyone who's really wanted to see it already has. (bittorrent). It was supposed to launch in the states and japan simultaneously, but they delayed it here for months and months (pushed back to october, then november, then january, then...now the final date this week). The pirating of it was kind of a retaliation for the surprise delay. Everyone was looking forward to seeing it (even buying it) and they just delayed it out of no where. So the downloads ran wild.

Sephiroth_VII

04-23-2006, 09:52 PM

I must admit that I downloaded it. Nut I'm making up for it by buying it tomorrow. So I'm sure that I've done no harm to SE's FF VII remake budget :hugegrin:.

cliffbo

04-23-2006, 09:57 PM

has anyone seen the new ign episode yet? FF12 looks extraordinary. if you want to see a reason to buy this version watch the vid and note how populated the villages and towns are. (incredible stuff) PS2s third gen titles easily match anything on 360, except Oblivion and GRAW. sorry Wounding :)