Possible Clue to PS3 Games Packaging? HQ Blu-ray Movie Box Pics!

[8_Bit]

Could these pictures of Lionsgate Studios Blu-ray releases give us a clue about what PS3 game boxes will look like?

I hope so... They look sharp.

Nice size, too. (They appear to be slightly shorter than the old DVD box.)

I also like how the top is a bit more rounded than the bottom. My girlfriend will finally be able to figure out what end is "up" when putting them back on the shelf. (As if she actually puts them back on the shelf in the first place!)

I hope this box style carries over to PS3 games!

http://dvd.themanroom.com/images/covers/bluray/large/2931.jpg

http://dvd.themanroom.com/images/covers/bluray/large/2927.jpg

Pics from:
http://dvd.themanroom.com/dvd-newsview.php?id=0056

[xbdestroya]

There were some screen shots of Blu-ray cases from CES earlier this year, but nothing as close up as this.

[8_Bit]

There were some screen shots of Blu-ray cases from CES earlier this year, but nothing as close up as this.

I was actually at CES and saw these, but didn't really "see" them!

Of course if you've ever been to CES or E3, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. It's very hard to concentrate in that hall with a million things going on at once.

These pics gave me the first real opportunity to study the design.

The dimensions are interesting. They aren't quite the same as DVD. Either they are the same height as DVD and slightly wider (which would make for a nicer booklet, IMO) or they are the same width and slightly shorter.

[yoshaw]

I hope not. It kinda looks very bland. I wish they had the black covers similar to those of PS2.

[Hrama]

Hmmm they look pretty good. I am guessing they are about the same size as DVD cases. It would keep things nice and neat on the shelf both at retailers and at home. I hope PS3 game cases do look this good.

[yoshaw]

Hmmm they look pretty good. I am guessing they are about the same size as DVD cases. It would keep things nice and neat on the shelf both at retailers and at home. I hope PS3 game cases do look this good.

Bzzzzzzzt , wrong :)

They are bigger than the normal DVD cases. That's why I was concerned. HD-DVD cases are almost similar in size. Say your old 200 DVD titanium stand good-bye for this sucka ;)

Now you see why I was wishing for the PS2 like black cases :)

[Dorbin]

These most recent shots make the packaging look pretty decent to me. I like it better than HD-DVD's.

[LiquidEagle]

I'm sure that blue bar at the top with the Blu-Ray logo would be changed into a nice PS3 logo just like we have on current-gen games. Other than that it's good to go, but it's not like this should ever be a deciding factor in a purchase of a system or games :-p

[casualkiss]

Am I the only guy who prefers cardboard packaging often found in TV collection DVD's?

A beautiful three panel thick cardboard set would make collecting media and showing them off sexy again! (as people did with records)

[chrismt]

the logo looks.....off

[LiquidEagle]

Hopefully they wouldn't smell like Records do... :-p

I like the durability of PS2 cases though, you can drop them and not worry about breaking the jewel casing like a CD had. If you drop something like a record, then...I dunno what to tell you :laugh:

Chris: how does the logo look "off?"

[Leedogg]

The Case looks just the same like it did at CES.

http://gearmedia.ign.com/gear/image/article/679/679365/ces-2006-bluray-disc-association-booth-report-20060106001350393.jpg

Round at the top too.

http://media.gear.ign.com/articles/679/679365/img_3301857.html

[chrismt]

off = crap

although I'm sure Sony will have a nice logo to stick on the box

and what is with the cases being bigger?

[NickSCFC]

The dimensions are interesting. They aren't quite the same as DVD. Either they are the same height as DVD and slightly wider (which would make for a nicer booklet, IMO) or they are the same width and slightly shorter.
Hopefully the same but shorter, I'm not buying an extra DVD rack!

[Raitei]

Urm, the plastic is translucent right? i think it will look better than HD-DVD (which is same but red yes?)

And as for the new rack stuff, it really depends which way you store the disc (logo and name facing you, or bottom facing you)

[DofD]

Here are the dimensions for the BD cases, with DVD case sizes in parenthesis.

Width: 135.61mm (135.46mm)
Height: 171.45mm (191.06mm)
Depth: 11.01mm (14.64mm)

You can see the layout of the new cases in the last two slides of this document.
http://www.thecnl.com/CES2006BluRay.pdf

[VideoGame mania]

I like blue color,just hope the cases will get slightly darker,like dark blue

[Leedogg]

ty for the link DofD interesting read +rep

[Z]

I don't think the height of the case is more, it is only a bit wider from the sides. that will make them fit DVD stands perfectly. that is what they did with UMD cases, they are the same height as DVD cases, only shorter from the sides.

[8_Bit]

I don't think the height of the case is more, it is only a bit wider from the sides. that will make them fit DVD stands perfectly. that is what they did with UMD cases, they are the same height as DVD cases, only shorter from the sides.

According to the .pdf of Sony's CES presentation slides that DofD posted, (Thanks, DofD!) the case is 3/4" shorter, just a hair wider, and the "binding" is approx. 4 mm thinner.

The case is "super clear," or actually "super clear-with a hint of blue" (preferred choice).

I like it a lot. I always stored my DVD cases vertically on a shelf, not in a rack, so the shorter size doesn't hurt my plans for storage.

[Yo MaMa84]

HD-DVD and Blu-Ray boxes are the same.....different colours but the same box. They are a lil wider, shorter, and thinner. And they will hold in your DVD stands or racks that you have now......i tried it myself at work...and it did fit.

[Dorbin]

Um, they aren't the exact same last I checked. HD-DVD boxes do not have rounded edges, and in pics it looks like the top of the boxes are wider than the bottom, not sure if that's correct though. But maybe outside of the rounded edges the boxes are the same, I'm not sure.

[yoshaw]

Errr, offtopic but good news fellas. Who needs 8 layers when we can do the same on 6. LOL

TDK Corp. has prototyped a recordable Blu-ray Disc medium with its capacity increased to 200 GB by stacking six recording layers. The new medium boasts the capacity approximately eight times that of the existing single-layer Blu-ray Disc medium.

TDK prototyped a 100 GB recordable medium having four 25 GB recording layers stacked on one another in 2003. This time, the company employed a different signal processing scheme to increase the capacity per layer to 33.3 GB, while increasing the number of the recording layers to six through the adoption of a novel recording material.

The bit error rate at 36 Mbps recording/playback fell within the range between 5.0 x 10-5 and 2.3 x 10-6 depending on the layer.

The prototyped medium has a layered structure in which the recording layers are formed from the bottom L0 layer to top L5 layer, and a 0.1 mm cover layer and a hard coat layer to protect the medium from scratches and dirt are stacked on these recording layers. As for the L0 layer, an inorganic material, i.e. a commercialized Si-Cu alloy layer is used. For the L1 to L5 layers, a novel inorganic material consisting of bismuth peroxide and germanium oxide is employed. When bismuth peroxide is irradiated with laser light, oxygen is deposited to form air bubbles when the temperature reaches 690 K. The presence or absence of these air bubbles is detected based on the difference in reflectance of the laser light.

Germanium oxide has a property that it can freely change the transmittance of the recording layers in the range between 73 and 88% by varying its concentration. Thus, the transmittance of the recording layers--a key factor in stacking technology--can be precisely set, which has led to the realization of six layers.

http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20060427/116681/?ST=english

[VideoGame mania]

As far as I know the Ps3 doesnt support blu ray discs higher than 50gb,but I may be wrong.Those 200gb discs maybe will be used by Sony for the PS4.

[Domination]

As far as I know the Ps3 doesnt support blu ray discs higher than 50gb,but I may be wrong.Those 200gb discs maybe will be used by Sony for the PS4.

I'm confused. What kinda of a Blu Ray player would it be if it only read one type of Blu Ray disc as far as capacity? :eek2: LOL! I think Sony would have had the foresight to prepared for such things. As far as I know, only games are limited to the dual layer discs.

[Infernal]

Why would it be able to read games only on dual-layered but movies on more? That doesnt make much sense, and werent DVD players the same way, where early DVD players couldnt play dual-layer disks?

[venomv]

Here is a question for the more technical people here. Would it be possible to to upgrade how many layers the laser can read with a firmware update, or would that require a differnt laser, or lense.

[Sephiroth_VII]

Different laser I think.

Just for the record, PS2 CAN play dual-layer games/movies. As opposed to what many people think.

[VideoGame mania]

I'm confused. What kinda of a Blu Ray player would it be if it only read one type of Blu Ray disc as far as capacity? :eek2: LOL! I think Sony would have had the foresight to prepared for such things. As far as I know, only games are limited to the dual layer discs.

well:spiny: do you expect to see one official movie 50gb +on blu ray?
I kind of, find it hard to believe,if only you use 8 layer blu ray disc and burn more than 50 gb on it

[Domination]

Why would it be able to read games only on dual-layered but movies on more? That doesnt make much sense, and werent DVD players the same way, where early DVD players couldnt play dual-layer disks?
No, no, no. Because Blu Ray excels every 25GBs ( or even 33.3GBs in some cases), developers will need no other reason to move to anything above 50GBs of space for their best next-generation game. Therefore, it won't be required. Hence the reason it was never mentioned for games.

Movies are a different story. You may not think so outside of 50GBs, but have you heard of trilogies or seasonal collections? :) Ok, put those in 1080p and see how much space you have left. Now, imagine if your PS3 couldn't read any of these just because it supported a larger capacity than your games. Lack of foresight, would you say? ;)

[Voidler]

I like it myself, and having such a case would simply make an obvious difference between PS3 and Xbox 360's mediums

[Leedogg]

well:spiny: do you expect to see one official movie 50gb +on blu ray?
I kind of, find it hard to believe,if only you use 8 layer blu ray disc and burn more than 50 gb on it

It has already been announced that Black Hawk Down will be on a 50 GB Blu-Ray Disc. I wouldn't be surprised if movies like King Kong (3 hours long) would take up 75 GBs or more.

[VideoGame mania]

It has already been announced that Black Hawk Down will be on a 50 GB Blu-Ray Disc. I wouldn't be surprised if movies like King Kong (3 hours long) would take up 75 GBs or more.

a link would help,if its true,than dvd maybe is dead compare to blu ray in a few years hd era for the win:pope:

[Leedogg]

http://www.computerworld.com/hardwaretopics/storage/story/0,10801,107457,00.html?SKC=multimedia-107457


Bram Stoker's Dracula will be released with multichannel uncompressed audio, and both Black Hawk Down and The Bridge on the River Kwai will be released on dual-layer 50GB discs, said Feingold.



Also heres the list of the first Blu-Ray Movies coming out. For those that don't know it by now.



Sony's first movies will include: The Fifth Element, Bram Stoker's Dracula, Desperado, For a Few Dollars More, The Guns of Navarone, Hitch, House of Flying Daggers, A Knight's Tale, Kung Fu Hustle, The Last Waltz, Legends of the Fall, Resident Evil Apocalypse, Robocop, Sense and Sensibility, Stealth, Species, SWAT, XXX, Black Hawk Down and The Bridge on the River Kwai.

[8_Bit]

Different laser I think.


HD DVD and Blu-ray use he same lasers, just a different lens aspect.

[venomv]

HD DVD and Blu-ray use he same lasers, just a different lens aspect.

That wasn't the question, I asked if a differnt laser is required to read multi-layer rather then single-layer disks. And I thought the BR was blue-violet, or is that because of the lens?

[Goki]

side question

Bram Stokers Dracula. did they have HD cameras when the shot that movie, or are they just gonna upscale the resolutoin ??
Also I would really like to know if Ps3 will or NOT be able to read BR Movies in 50GB+ ??

[frosty]

it was filmed, and film is higher res than HD. and yes, PS3 has been confirmed to play 50 GB discs

[8_Bit]

That wasn't the question, I asked if a differnt laser is required to read multi-layer rather then single-layer disks. And I thought the BR was blue-violet, or is that because of the lens?

Sorry for the misunderstanding. To answer your real question, single-layer and multi-layer discs use the same laser.

Both HD DVD and Blu-ray use the same 405 nm blue-violet laser diode. HD DVD uses a NA 0.65 lens and Blu-ray uses a NA 0.85 lens.

[Goki]

it was filmed, and film is higher res than HD. and yes, PS3 has been confirmed to play 50 GB discs

cool but regarding my BR question theres a + sign there for a reason, can it play over 50GB ?? Movies im on about not games

[Leedogg]

Goki I'm sure it can be done by firmware.

[venomv]

Sorry for the misunderstanding. To answer your real question, single-layer and multi-layer discs use the same laser.

Both HD DVD and Blu-ray use the same 405 nm blue-violet laser diode. HD DVD uses a NA 0.65 lens and Blu-ray uses a NA 0.85 lens.

So, if the need ever comes, which I doubt, PS3 should be able to be updated with firmware to read above dual-layer BR disks?

[cybergrue]

Some new news on the Blu-ray front, and I didn't think it warented its own thread.
The Blu-ray launch has been pushed back until June 20th.
reuters story (http://go.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=technologyNews&storyID=12064227&src=rss/technologyNews)
and
arstechnica take on it (http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060504-6748.html)

[masteratt]

I have a mix feeling about these boxes.
They look a bit "out of place"...Maybe the typical 'metal shine' effect will make it look futuristic and sexy. :thumbl:

[Domination]

Some new news on the Blu-ray front, and I didn't think it warented its own thread.
The Blu-ray launch has been pushed back until June 20th.
reuters story (http://go.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=technologyNews&storyID=12064227&src=rss/technologyNews)
and
arstechnica take on it (http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060504-6748.html)

Well, that can't be good. They had better not wait too long: HD-DVD could gain some ground.

[OzzysCross101]

"Beyond High Definition"

For some reason, that sounds very catchy. Don't know why. Probably because it's true....