Killzone and Tomfoolery

[Old_Timer!]

great artwork....

[9thPower]

Edit: Forget this shit, I'm playing some more Killzone lol. Lol Curry, I'm in my 10th play trough, its my most played PS2 game, because of the graphics, the oh so cool cover system(lots of cover around, run and shoot and your dead, so... cover.) the oh so amazing freaking guns, the so cool enemies design and their somewhat good aiming, deadly as hell, that whats make you go to cover so much, and well the diversity in the environments is great.

[curryking1]

Man, playing with Rico definitely makes the game quite a bit easier in the areas with lots of guys. What a freaking powerful tank worthy gun he carries around.

I like playing with Templar more though, I like being the run of the mill captain of the squad, all rounder, gets the job done no matter what it is kind of guy.

9thpower, you just named all the reasons why I love playing KZ as well lol. Z said that too lol, liking our war shooters to be like what wars are. And hell yes, I'm definitely playing some more KZ right now lol.

@Z - Awesome get with those comic book covers.

[9thPower]

Lol, i hate Rico, i love difficult challenges, specially the last level, i died a gazillion of times before searching a good fixed cover.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Man once I got rico I didn't switch back.

[Smokey]

guys i gotta buy this game again now lol :)

[LaLiLuLeLo]

It's a greatest hit, and you can probably buy it for cheaper than 20 bucks.

[Smokey]

i gotta buy SH 3 & 4 for me & the daughter so ill get it at the same time :)

[curryking1]

Oh man! I found the funniest dialogue in KZ.

Rico: So the Brains agrees with the Grunt.
Hakha: Even a monkey will write Shakespeare given enough time.
Templar: Ok let's move out.
Rico: What the fuck is a Shakespeare?

[CreativeWriter]

Oh man! I found the funniest dialogue in KZ.


I laughed at the Don Quixote reference in FFXII. I'm always a bit surprised when some game writer has anything interesting/funny to say. I guess when you read through so much drivel the smallest bit of real humor/intelligence can seem really funny.

[curryking1]

That's very true lol. It might've just been that this kind of stuff is so sparse in gaming for references and stuff and writers with 'things to say,' and that's why I found it so hilarious lol.

Unless you're playing MGS, then you have to expect references and funny dialogue. 'The Placebo' is one frigging HILARIOUS example from the scripts, and where else do you get 'I chose the wrong tunnel' Tom, Dick and Harry reference or '[Start] from square zero.'

[Garfunkel]

hakha was my favourite.

[curryking1]

Holy shiznit! E-mpire looks so caarraaayzzzeee!

[Garfunkel]

???

[EvilTaru]

Oh man! I found the funniest dialogue in KZ.

Rico: So the Brains agrees with the Grunt.
Hakha: Even a monkey will write Shakespeare given enough time.
Templar: Ok let's move out.
Rico: What the fuck is a Shakespeare?

Freakin' Rico is so dumb.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v500/EvilTaru/gladtomeetya.gif

[Z]

Freakin' Rico is so dumb.
oh, he's not dumb at all. he just doesn't know much about historical literature figures or about equally old sayings.
remember, this is the future we are talking about. if anything, I would say Hakha was a wise-ass. ;)

[9thPower]

I hope they had a Rail-gun Anti-material Sniper For the ISA, a SMG for the ISA like the new MP7 PDW, with a wide magazine for suppressing the enemies, Thats what i use the HAR for, its so fun to do suppressing fire with that gun, really inaccurate but it makes you want to scream when you fire the damn thing, its real fun.... :eek2:

Anyway, i hope they upgrade the mêlée system, and in though enemies, you don't kill them just put them unconscious so you can kill them while their on the ground, like "fucking helgast style"- Rico Lol, use the tilt for mêlée combos, like up-down. up- hit with the gun but in the chin from a down-up direction and then down- hit the head from an up-down direction crushing the skull.... again... :eek2: but those would be some cool combos.

jump button please, no dual-wielding, it would take the realism away, no regenerative health, and if they do, make the armor regenerate, just like the life bar in the 1rst Killzone, and no life packs if you please :) keep it real, or at least as real as possible.

make a BIA type of system for suppressing the enemy (even though i don't like BIA, but i like the system) so that they act more real. anyway this are my opinions on how to make the game better... oh and of course killer-top notch AI... that would be cool, the rest is in the CG trailer, and if the gameplay is like that, then it would be really cool.

[makeitlookreal]

I can't wait until they release a screenshot of Killzone 2.

[Garfunkel]

correction, killzone 3. killzone 2 is on psp.

[yoshaw]

I hope they had a Rail-gun Anti-material Sniper For the ISA, a SMG for the ISA like the new MP7 PDW, with a wide magazine for suppressing the enemies, Thats what i use the HAR for, its so fun to do suppressing fire with that gun, really inaccurate but it makes you want to scream when you fire the damn thing, its real fun.... :eek2:

Anyway, i hope they upgrade the mêlée system, and in though enemies, you don't kill them just put them unconscious so you can kill them while their on the ground, like "fucking helgast style"- Rico Lol, use the tilt for mêlée combos, like up-down. up- hit with the gun but in the chin from a down-up direction and then down- hit the head from an up-down direction crushing the skull.... again... :eek2: but those would be some cool combos.

jump button please, no dual-wielding, it would take the realism away, no regenerative health, and if they do, make the armor regenerate, just like the life bar in the 1rst Killzone, and no life packs if you please :) keep it real, or at least as real as possible.

make a BIA type of system for suppressing the enemy (even though i don't like BIA, but i like the system) so that they act more real. anyway this are my opinions on how to make the game better... oh and of course killer-top notch AI... that would be cool, the rest is in the CG trailer, and if the gameplay is like that, then it would be really cool.

cool ideas.

I just want them to make the damn sniper rifle with a hold-breath button that stabilizes the zoomed up aim. Or just straight off rip the idea from Resistance's sniper rifle, zoom-in slowdown. :angel:

[curryking1]

Maybe no health packs, but regenerative health (a certain amount above the lowest your health got) is the best.

Halo's health system was awesome, I loved the regenerative shield. Obviously there is no such thing in Killzone for Templar, but the same idea can be put in with the partial health regeneration.

[Z]

correction, killzone 3. killzone 2 is on psp.
KZ for PSP doesn't have a numeral in the title. and I don't think the PS3 one will either.

[Garfunkel]

I stand corrected, so it's kinda like the GTA 3 trilogy.

[Fredag]

The title is not yet decided/announced according to the devs faq.

[Garfunkel]

^there was a trailer at e3 05 and it has been confirmed many times, the game does exist and it has been talked about in interviews.

[Z]

^there was a trailer at e3 05 and it has been confirmed many times, the game does exist and it has been talked about in interviews.

he is talking about announcing an official name for the game not the actual project itself doesn't exist.

what is the matter YiM? you seem to be slipping more than usual lately. I told you you better cut down on kitty liver. those things can't be good for you if Martha cooked it herself.

[9thPower]

thanks Yoshaw :pleased: its a cool idea to have that type of sniper function, like in Americas Army, but just for snipers, not all the guns, I like realism in games but not to much :). by the way, someone care to send my and yoshaw ideas to guerrila? that would be really cool....

[warmachine]

They could just use the motion control of the SIXAXIS to determin how much the crosshair is shaking during fireing with the sniper rifle. ^^

So I would always have to drink some beer before playing Killzone for more accuracy and a non-shaky hand. :P

[Fredag]

he is talking about announcing an official name for the game not the actual project itself doesn't exist.


Yes. I don't think they will use a number in the title, as the game is so different from the PS2 version. And if they do, I think 3 is better than 2, if it's going to be compared to Halo 3...

I was around at E305, and i have hyped this game alot. I have even talked to the developers, asking them about supporting WASD/mouse. The answer was that it's very hard to balance the game for multiplay. I told them it's no big deal to have separate games running and let people choose if they allow opponents with keyboard/mouse or not.
And that they will sell a lot more if they add it, PC gamers would start looking at consoles if WASD/mouse was supported.

But this was before Sixaxis was known, so now they do have a stronger point. Still, I would love the option, as I am a leet wasd-player and a noob DS2-player. :cheers:

[cliffbo]

i will bet anything that Killzone 2 on the PS3 will be a milestone in FPS history. these guys did things with the PS2 that no other company have done before, double texturing for one. with Sony's vast knowledge of Cell/RSX i can see a game that really delivers

[Shogun042]

Killzone for PS3 had better be an outstanding game visually and gameplay wise or the media will tear it apart because of that target render.

[Nameless]

^ Thanks captain obvious... :huh:

[curryking1]

^Lol!

i will bet anything that Killzone 2 on the PS3 will be a milestone in FPS history. these guys did things with the PS2 that no other company have done before, double texturing for one. with Sony's vast knowledge of Cell/RSX i can see a game that really delivers

I'd put a will see on it lol. But there is a relatively strong possibility for the reasons you gave, I agree. I'm sure Sony wants to pimp this ride as much as they can. High production values are almost a guarantee which is awesome too.

[Z]

Killzone for PS3 had better be an outstanding game visually and gameplay wise or the media will tear it apart because of that target render.
the media could go screw itself with a used PS3 and jump off a bridge. get squashed, then screw itself again with the ooze coming out of their brain-shit hole for all I care.

as for Killzone, I got a feeling that it will make us say Resistance who? ;)

[Garfunkel]

he is talking about announcing an official name for the game not the actual project itself doesn't exist.

what is the matter YiM? you seem to be slipping more than usual lately. I told you you better cut down on kitty liver. those things can't be good for you if Martha cooked it herself.

LOL! i just misinterpret things a lot, tis all, i swear it's not intentional ;)

[yoshaw]

the media could go screw itself with a used PS3 and jump off a bridge. get squashed, then screw itself again with the ooze coming out of their brain-shit hole for all I care.

Amen to that brother!

as for Killzone, I got a feeling that it will make us say Resistance who? ;)

I'd wager it'll blow not only existing FPS' but also another high-profile title on competition's console to smithereens! :fighting:

:thumbr:

[curryking1]

Let's not get too ahead of ourselves here lol. It's possible with all the budget and manpower they got though.

But I'll add to the enthusiasm! KZ is awesome lol!

[section]

(With Borat's accent) It's nice. High five.

[curryking1]

How Sony Will Counter the Halo 3 Beta

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Remember this game? We haven't heard much about Guerilla's Killzone 2 since it appeared in video CG form back at E3 ages ago. The studio and Sony Computer Entertainment went dark on the title after the E3 presentation.


Rumors pointed at the game's intended resurgence at their pre-launch Gamers' Day event last year. Ultimately, if the rumors are to be believed, Sony shelved showing Killzone 2 in favor of spotlighting Insomniac's new shooter franchise (and it will be a franchise) Resistance. The same rumors have pointed to Killzone 2 being much further along than previously expected -- with the apex of the rumor arc concluding that the game has been playable online for almost a year.


Microsoft and Bungie's beta program for Halo 3 is all the rage this Spring. It's garnered countless news stories with its multiple points of entry and even landed a cover in EGM back in November (I expect the beta to be similar but with more weapons and polish to the maps covered in that series of stories).


Aside from the obvious connection between Killzone and Halo being first-party developed shooters and the first Killzone being branded with the unfortunate moniker of "Halo-killer," the ties between these games are going to bind even closer this Spring.


Expect a playable Killzone 2 demo to be released (hmm, Phil Harrison is keynoting at GDC...) before gamers are participating in the beta for Halo 3.

http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=7846169&publicUserId=5519593

Courtesy dandy lion, TXB

Just, take it for what it's worth, just wanted to post it because it's about Killzone, which is probably my personal favourite FPS. Any news on it is welcome to me...

Even 1up news, look what you have reduced me to Guerilla :(

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Hmm, it'd cause quite a stirr......we'll see if this holds any weight. I am looking forward to this game, whatever the case.

[curryking1]

Ya, it's just KZ news, I mean, I have to post it, I'm looking so forward to this game as well.

My god did that trailer look good btw, damn, even for a CG, that's some damn impressive war scene going on there.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

If they can just get the scenarios and the animation quality to match it'd be amazing itself.

[frosty]

does anyone remember the prediction I made? a repeat of history.

Motorstorm debuted at E3 05' with a CG trailer. It made it's real time debut at GDC 06. I predicted history would repeat... and looks like it may.

[dnpmakkah]

I refuse to fall into the hype.....too late. Man I hope this game turns out to be great. I want awesome physics, great graphics, incredible sound, difficult A.I and above all I want this game to have the best story/atmosphere ever to grace a console. ("Get off the beach. Get off the beach now!" )

Sony should release the trailers from E305 till now and put them up on PSN. I don't care how old they are or if they are CGI. I just want some HD quality trailers to go along with my HDTV and PS3. I mean it was because of the PS3 that I ended up buying an HDTV so dangit Sony make it happen.

[makeitlookreal]

If this rumor turns out to be true it will seriously be awesome.

[frosty]

I can see it now... intro opens with clouds and music... face comes into view, oh shit! the trailer again. then a life bar pops up.. and all hell breaks loose.

[makeitlookreal]

Frosty,

What they need to do is show the demo without the life bar or anything and have someone walk out with a controller to show they are actually playing the game in real-time!

It would cause chaos to break loose!

If Sony can match the quality of the original trailer it will probably result in a standing ovation.

[dnpmakkah]

If Sony can match the quality of the original trailer it will probably result in a standing ovation.It could be close but people will still complain. Like they do with Motorstorm. The CGI for Motorstrom was incredible and the actual game is as close as possible right now but people still bitch. Same thing will happen with Killzone.

[frosty]

Frosty,

What they need to do is show the demo without the life bar or anything and have someone walk out with a controller to show they are actually playing the game in real-time!

It would cause chaos to break loose!

If Sony can match the quality of the original trailer it will probably result in a standing ovation.

Or just let each person who would be watching said presentation log onto the PS network and play it themselves for even more impact.


Has luke reported many rumors that were false?

[curryking1]

I would like to know such a statistic.

[Siraris]

I know this is crazy, but this is one of my most anticipated games in the next few years. If there's really a playable demo available around the time of GDC, I'm going to pee myself, no joke.

I find it hard to believe it's been playable online for a year, since that would mean it was in development WAYYYY before even PS3 final dev-kits. I'd also rather it take as long as it needs to look as close to the E3 trailer as possible, as well as just being a plain fantastic game. Here's hoping for the best!

[frosty]

It's been in development since before E3 05'. They got their first kits a few weeks prior to it.

It's oddly quiet in this thread to have 20 people viewing it...

Too exited to type? Or don't believe the hype?

Orgionally posted by: CrushDance @ GAF

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/4664/joeformrungu8.gif
Hey, where are we going!?


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GDC of course, I hear there might be a killzone demo...

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/7462/terryrunog4.gif

Downgrade am total or WOW?
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/5598/rugalrunrf9.gif
You will say wow, for better or worse!

[makeitlookreal]

Frosty,

I think a lot of people are dubious about these things. When it comes to games and gaming everything is delayed. Consoles are delayed, games are delayed, and even announcements are delayed.

I think some people are tired of talking about seeing things happen and just want them to happen.

I'm excited enough that I can't help but talk about this. But at the same time I really, really want to see something with my own eyes.

[frosty]

It's the wording of it that gets me. It isn't presented as a rumor at all, and for someone like Luke Smith to say something with such certainty, risking his credibility, seems odd. Has anything like this happened before? Take a look.

How Sony Will Counter the Halo 3 Beta



Remember this game? We haven't heard much about Guerilla's Killzone 2 since it appeared in video CG form back at E3 ages ago. The studio and Sony Computer Entertainment went dark on the title after the E3 presentation.


Rumors pointed at the game's intended resurgence at their pre-launch Gamers' Day event last year. Ultimately, if the rumors are to be believed, Sony shelved showing Killzone 2 in favor of spotlighting Insomniac's new shooter franchise (and it will be a franchise) Resistance. The same rumors have pointed to Killzone 2 being much further along than previously expected -- with the apex of the rumor arc concluding that the game has been playable online for almost a year.


Microsoft and Bungie's beta program for Halo 3 is all the rage this Spring. It's garnered countless news stories with its multiple points of entry and even landed a cover in EGM back in November (I expect the beta to be similar but with more weapons and polish to the maps covered in that series of stories).


Aside from the obvious connection between Killzone and Halo being first-party developed shooters and the first Killzone being branded with the unfortunate moniker of "Halo-killer," the ties between these games are going to bind even closer this Spring.


Expect a playable Killzone 2 demo to be released (hmm, Phil Harrison is keynoting at GDC...) before gamers are participating in the beta for Halo 3.

No "I heard" or "maybe" or "could" anywhere in there. He's speaking as if he knows something for certain. Not only that, but he hints at a time frame for it to take place.

The only thing he mentions being rumor is that they decided against showing it at gamer's day because they didn't want to steal Resistance's thunder (which makes perfect business sense), which would indicate it having been in development for a long time now.

[makeitlookreal]

Your right. He is speaking about it like he knows it's a fact. If it does not happen his credibility will indeed take a hit.

[GodMachine_Iridius_Dio]

Eh, Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

[Z]

the first Killzone being branded with the unfortunate moniker of "Halo-killer,"
thanks to your limited and fan-crave excuse for mentality 1UP, IGN and all the washout so called 'reporters' out there. hey look, the new Pokemon Color game is out! BY BY HALO!!!11!
with the apex of the rumor arc concluding that the game has been playable online for almost a year.
wow, are these guys asking for it or what? next they'll 'report' 'really really super duper kinda strong rumor' that the game has already been out in Taipei for 6 months and that Vietnam's PSN store has had a demo for it for two weeks... :rollseyes:

[Vegtro]

If a demo was to be released, what would be more of an impact: a single player demo or a beta multiplayer?

[karibu]

Damn, if there will be both Halo3 and Killzone demo out same time.
It would be something like this...

MS:"Get Halo3 beta for 60$ with a game."
Sony:"Download KZ demo for free."
MS:"Okay, here's my balls, you may kick them."

[frosty]

True or not, I expect to see Killzone at GDC one way or the other. Whether or not anyone sneaks video remains to be seen.

[TEEDA]

Well I would have prefered to have a exclusive peek in a magazine or a Live presentation during a Show rather than a straight blinded demo.
Looks like the game has been in development for a long time now, they will probably reveal it after Microsoft reveals Halo3.

[frosty]

um... why?

I would take actually playing the game to screens, trailers, or previews any day. And the article says to expect it before halo 3.

[yoshaw]

I REFUSE to be a victim of hype.

Especially when its coming from the notorious 1up and to top it all off, Luke 'the Sony hating' Smith. I strongly believe it is another ulterior motive of 1up to downplay PS3 and one of its games via false hype and creating lofty expectations ahead of time. So that when the game makes appearance and if not stay on par with them, people will get disappointed.

We've been all on this road before. When the same sort of journalists created the 'Halo killer' moniker for Killzone. Which led to the pressure on Guerilla and hurt the title that would had done much better otherwise.

Do not fall for hype. Keep your expectations in check. This has become a trend in the news websites to bash sony. I don't see why a anti-sony website do a 180 and be tooting PS3's horns. Atleast keep alarmed over the expect that even if they sound as if its true, it may be propaganda.

I'd suggest waiting for a more conventional website to break a Killzone story rather than the folks at 1up and ugh, especially Luke Smith.

[frosty]

I would invest no interest in it if it didn't directly follow my predicted timeline for a killzone showing.

[Applefiend]

Can't say Killzone is even in my top 5 shooters but if they demo the game and it looks like the trailer that would be a supreme moment for PS3. And I like PS3. :)

And I did enjoy playing kz1, even finished it.

[frosty]

I think the quality control on this game will be much higher than before. Sony doesn't just throw $50 million at people so they can make an average game.

[VG Aficionado]

I REFUSE to be a victim of hype.

Especially when its coming from the notorious 1up and to top it all off, Luke 'the Sony hating' Smith. I strongly believe it is another ulterior motive of 1up to downplay PS3 and one of its games via false hype and creating lofty expectations ahead of time. So that when the game makes appearance and if not stay on par with them, people will get disappointed.

We've been all on this road before. When the same sort of journalists created the 'Halo killer' moniker for Killzone. Which led to the pressure on Guerilla and hurt the title that would had done much better otherwise.

Do not fall for hype. Keep your expectations in check. This has become a trend in the news websites to bash sony. I don't see why a anti-sony website do a 180 and be tooting PS3's horns. Atleast keep alarmed over the expect that even if they sound as if its true, it may be propaganda.

I'd suggest waiting for a more conventional website to break a Killzone story rather than the folks at 1up and ugh, especially Luke Smith.Listen to the wise yoshaw!

1UP are building themselves more FUD than the Internet can handle. I'm willing to bet money these guys are just planning things like this: "Hey, let's hype this game, and when it appears, no matter what it looks or plays like, we'll bash it to death and claim it's no Halo killer; the 360 hardcore fans will say the same thing too. And when it's over, we'll say both Halo 3 and Gears are like the Killzone trailer". (They did state before that Gears was almost like Killzone's trailer! :laugh:)

And when was the last time a good PS3 rumour from 1UP became true anyway?

[Cyrus]

I can see it now... intro opens with clouds and music... face comes into view, oh shit! the trailer again. then a life bar pops up.. and all hell breaks loose.

Lmao that would be so cool. :D

[Garfunkel]

i don't know what to believe, i want to but on the other hand i don't want to be disappointed again...

but the part about it being playable for a year? bullshit!

[GTAce]

frosty, you got me so hyped right now.... 8((((((((((((((((((

I expected KZ on the GDC for a while now but your posts.... 8(((((((((((((((
I hate this feeling.....

But i calm down dont want to get disappointed.

[Fats]

I'm not getting excited about this. Not one bit.

:shifty:

[Tarkus]

I happen to agree wholeheartidly with Yoshaw. 1UP is UP to something here again people - watch out.

One the flip side though, If Sony does manage to duplicate or come damn close to the target renders (remember, they were just target renders right?) then they should have nothing to be concerned with. Afterall, it was Sony themselves that choose to thrust this title into the spotlight with the CGI renders. If they couldn't come damn close then shame on them for doing this.

In the end, Killzone 2 will not be a Halo 3 killer - BUT - it will be a godsend to PS3 gamers interested in this franchise and make a lot of people decide to get a PS3 to play this game.

I for one believe that this game is going to be impressive, real impressive.

[9thPower]

what would be a great marketing idea is if they have a demo ready for spring launch, they should bundle it with.... Resistance. It would create enormous sales for the game, and its the same genre. Those who like resistance would like Killzone. And even those that didn't, would buy the game, and the demos would be in the Internet after a while(lets say... 3 weeks), in the US and Japan.

[jaxmkii]

here is how it works...

1. 1up claims KZ2 palyable at GDC

2. becomes media insanity

3. when its not there everyone blames sony...

[Slipphreake]

here is how it works...

1. 1up claims KZ2 palyable at GDC

2. becomes media insanity

3. when its not there everyone blames sony... Except this place. You guys will place the blame on 1up because it was on Luke's blog first because we all know that 1up has a conspiracy to take down Sony.

[GTAce]

If its not there im gonna blame 1up thats for sure.
But if its really there and looks better as the Halo3 Beta (lmao) i will give Sony a huge "+rep!". 8)

[Epix]

I can see it now... intro opens with clouds and music... face comes into view, oh shit! the trailer again. then a life bar pops up.. and all hell breaks loose.:lol: :lol: :lol:

When is the next GDC?

[GTAce]

March 5-9 (http://www.gdconf.com)

[Leedogg]

this would at the very least, take some of the fire away from Halo 3.

If it happens to be true.....

[curryking1]

I think the quality control on this game will be much higher than before. Sony doesn't just throw $50 million at people so they can make an average game.

My optimism for a great looking and great playing game is for the same reasons.

[Fillibuster]

This certainly would be a brilliant move on Sony's part, and would be great for us PS3 gamers...butttttt I'm not getting my hopes up for anything right now. I would be happy with ANY new playable demos.

[cliffbo]

build us up, so that it doubles our disappointment. any site that i believe may have received a free laptop, cannot be trusted.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Yeah, everyone just be cool and take this rumor in stride until/unless some concrete info surfaces. Remember, desire is the root of all suffering.

[cliffbo]

Yeah, everyone just be cool and take this rumor in stride until/unless some concrete info surfaces. Remember, desire is the root of all suffering.

;)

[frosty]

To say that 1up would falsely hype a demo coming out to try to "attack" Sony is just crazy. It's NEVER happened before, and is something that would only backfire if it didn't come true. People wouldn't be pissed at Sony, they'd be pissed at Luke Smith. He's the one that said it after all. He didn't say "Sony said the KZ demo will be out at GDC". He said it. He may hate Sony, but that's just a poor way to take a shot at them. Now if he were to say he saw Killzone and then went on to bash it, now that would have more effect.

[wotter]

I'm not really expecting anything, low expectations ftw!

[OG_Monkey]

hope its true

[VG Aficionado]

I'm not really expecting anything, low expectations ftw!Agreed!

*doesn't expect his heart to keep beating*

*heart beats*

Yay!

[gnznroses]

on an (un)related note, if i see the words "halo-killer" in another article my head will explode. i mean give it a rest already. for one, halo sucks, i've plauyed it for pc (halo 2 actually, and it was unintalled by the 2nd level). for two, there's no need to compare every single fps game to halo. just like we don't compare every racing game to some other, or every rpg. and for three, what does halo have that resisitance does not (cause as every magazine review ever written will tell ya, it's not a "halo killer")? maybe driveable vehicles in online (i'm guessing)? halo is fanboyism taken to the nth level.

[Fillibuster]

I agree that Halo=fanboyism, but I will give it another nod against RES; LAN play. I would love to be able to hook up some PS3s and have a good old fashioned LAN party in a dank basement with way too much caffeine. I also wish RES would allow guests to play online on the same PS3. All in all however, RES ftw.

[frosty]

Killzone 3 concept art. (http://www.dgs-online.nl/news_display.asp?id=16093)

http://www.dgs-online.nl/showimage2.asp?id=27518

http://www.dgs-online.nl/showimage2.asp?id=27519

http://www.dgs-online.nl/showimage2.asp?id=27520

[yoshaw]

To say that 1up would falsely hype a demo coming out to try to "attack" Sony is just crazy. It's NEVER happened before, and is something that would only backfire if it didn't come true. People wouldn't be pissed at Sony, they'd be pissed at Luke Smith. He's the one that said it after all. He didn't say "Sony said the KZ demo will be out at GDC". He said it. He may hate Sony, but that's just a poor way to take a shot at them. Now if he were to say he saw Killzone and then went on to bash it, now that would have more effect.

I would agree BUT ... only if the world could be colored that simple, my friend.

Them folks at 1up, regardless of their "oh they'll be the only ones in the line of fire once real news breaks", doesn't hide the fact that is their shoddy news headliner crew. Are you seriously telling me that you haven't been reading indirect/direct jibes at Sony/PS3 by both Patrick Klepick and Luke Smith's news stories? But that's certainly not the issue. And I don't know who you're trying to protect here buddy, the news or the crew that forwarded it in their words. But those two and the website 1up are the last things I'd wanna trust. IMO!

My point is, I'd ask everyone to rather stick with Killzone news that comes from more than 1 place. Wouldn't harm anyone to keep check on themselves via this I'm sure.

[frosty]

I agree, they aren't to be trusted, but for this to be fabricated is far too positive news and would only backfire.

[LiquidEagle]

Not only could I punch Luke Smith in the face for being such a complete retard, but I also feel the need to mercilessly beat his ass down for bringing back the old moniker I thought Killzone finally escaped. *sigh*

I don't believe it, but it would definitely be awesome. I just have a hard time thinking this guy of all people would have the scoop nobody else does :laugh:

[9thPower]

Killzone 3 concept art. (http://www.dgs-online.nl/news_display.asp?id=16093)

http://www.dgs-online.nl/showimage2.asp?id=27518

http://www.dgs-online.nl/showimage2.asp?id=27519

http://www.dgs-online.nl/showimage2.asp?id=27520

Damn you Frosty I was about to post that, I was all happy thinking I would show you guys some new stuff and then you do this.... NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooo............. Lol J/k :laugh: good find (even if I found it FIRST HAH!) ;) I loved the intruder and the female ISA soldier cool outfits, and that aerial drone/VTOL/thing is really amazing, such great art stile this guys have. And the part were a ISA soldier shoot/ or impale the HG soldier trout with the bayonet, is crazy. I like it :evil:

[cliffbo]

I agree, they aren't to be trusted, but for this to be fabricated is far too positive news and would only backfire.

it depends on who else has vested interest in the site. i know what your saying about giving them a bad name, but there are bigger issues here. European launch... its going to be huge. HD-DVD failed in japan... Blu-ray will sell PS3. at the moment i can see Sony's plan clearly and i'm riding it with them step by step. ripples are emerging that represent the worse sort strategy (the last option strategy) and www.whatswrongwithu.com is an indication of this new strategy. this, i believe to be another. although this could well turn out to be true, there have been other statements in the past that have been shown to be false, and its for this reason i hold back from being hyped. this business doesn't work in straight line and at the moment Sony have played their swerveball...

[OmniCloud]

Guys if GG does what there supposed to (which is very likely) then Killzone will be another great exclusive FPS...but there's no need to rush it...

Until this starts popping up everywhere, take it with a grain of salt...There's plenty of other games to be excited about that we've actually seen coverage on.

[Applefiend]

Nah, and thrice nah, Halo 1 does not suck, in fact that top 5 list of shooters I have in my head has Halo 1 in it.

I think the thing you realise about Halo is the best thing about it isn't the weapons or AI or any of that stuff. It's the music. Whoever was the music director did a real awesome job, it makes Halo. Hope the killzone people are taking music as seriously.

[LiquidEagle]

Marty O'Donnell I think. I met him at the Videogames Live concert about a year & a half ago :)

It's definitely the thing that makes Halo special, since its story is just short of vomit-inducing :-p

Some of the designs are cool too though :)

[Shogun042]

ah, i personally liked the stories of halo 1 and 2 and i'm looking forward to 3. system link was fun.

never played killzone 1 but hey doesn't mean i can't look forward to killzone 2.

[Nameless]

This rumor has no creditability and we already have over 4 pages...
I doubt we will see anything playable until 2008.

[Shogun042]

^^^ pretty sure Phil Harrison said that the game is coming out at the end of this year.

[curryking1]

This rumor has no creditability and we already have over 4 pages...
I doubt we will see anything playable until 2008.

You are very right, but still... KZ, I want to talk about and see KZ lol.

One feature I can say KZ did the best, and I mean, THE BEST, was the reload animations, how something so simple can be executed so well to increase the effectiveness of the atmosphere just wow.

Reloading the grenade launcher on the AR is second to none, and overall KZ's reloading, second to none, and arguably, KZ has one of the best war atmospheres for any first person shooter coming or that has come to the market.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

@ Nameless- cuz frosty is going bananas and is hoping against hope that it's gonna happen, picking out words and bolding them! Frosty! chill out! Don't get so excited! Bolding letters doesn't reinforce the argument!

[saxdawg00]

Hope the killzone people are taking music as seriously.

If the music from the original Killzone is any indication, Killzone 2's music will be extremely good. I may be alone in thinking this but Killzone's orchestral score simply exceeds that of Halo, by far. From the opening movie theme to the main menu music to the online lobby music. It gives a sort of oppressive, fascist vibe; a feeling of being in a battle or struggle yet seems to have some heroic themes embedded within. Great composing by Joris de Man, excellent performances by the Prague Philharmonic Orchestra and Chorus and Moscow Symphony Orchestra and Chorus.

The only props I give Halo's (overrated) soundtrack is the Gregorian chant for the main theme. It really gives the game it's epic feel (because the gameplay itself sure doesn't). Other than that, I get nothing from the other tracks. No heart and soul put into them at all.

Just saxdawg's $0.02 :)

[frosty]

Come on you know you want a Killzone demo just as bad as I do!



Besides, I was just pointing out an observation, not declaring it was true.

You do have to admit the shit he would catch if this didn't turn out to be true would negate any anti sony FUD it may create, which IMO isn't possible anyway since he didn't cite ANY sources.

That and it falls in line with every prediction I've made thus far, maybe a little faster, but still in line.

[GTAce]

I love the Halo soundtrack its one of my favs from all soundtracks.
But i love the Killzone soundtrack too and i think they make an awesome for the next one.

EDIT: We all want this demo.^^

[OmniCloud]

Yeah...I hate to admit it, but rumors, blogs, whatever, ANY news about Killzone will get some type of discussion. In the forum/Game site world, Killzone is probably just as popular as Halo now because of that trailer. It's the biggest game for PS3 outside of MGS4 in 2007. And sadly, it will be discussed even if the sources are completely lying and spreading fud....

Would be nice if they get as close as MotorStorm got or even closer...The explosions are certainly possible, but those facial animations and fire effects were retarded, not to mention all that AI handing you weapons and taking out enemies behind you...Very ambitious...

[Nameless]

I can see it now, the Killzone trailer lives up to the E3 hype and naysayers will simply say, "It does not look as good as Crysis on the PC..."
Honestly, regardless what Sony does people are going to hate it's that simple...

[GTAce]

@OmniCloud:
I write in this thread because im very sure we will get some KILLZONE news on the GDC not because of the 1up thing. :-D
These "news" here are just perfect to discuss a little bit.^^

[Rip3001]

It's the music. Whoever was the music director did a real awesome job, it makes Halo.

*Imagines Halo with soundtrack by Hillary Duff*

[gottig10]

that will be hot

[Red_Eyes]

It goes like this:

1UP: "Hmm... After bashing Sony so much, our PS3 section has become dead because all the PS3 fans has stop coming. How do we get them to come again? Easy, take the thing they love most, and hype it up as if we have some news."

And that's how the Killzone rumor got started.

[LiquidEagle]

I think Frosty does have a point given the kind of language used in this article (it makes it sound like more than just a rumor), but the fact that nobody else is reporting this and the amount of credibility online game sites have lost in the past year make me think it's far from true. One of those "wait & see" type things, but definitely interesting.

Killzone this year? I guess that's official word at the moment, but I think it's further off than that... Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if this game ended up being fall 2008...

[agentorange]

if they dont show it then Sony is really stupid. This is the best way to boost marketing for ps3 since it is not selling well right now and showing a game with great graphics will boost its image.

What ever they have right now in there cards if its MGS 4, FF13, Ratchet and Clank, God of war 3, heavenly sword, etc. they have to show it at once before its to late. Dont let it slip away and time is running out. Wii and xbxo 360 is very much ahead in numbers and i hope Sony is wise enought to show it right now what evr secret they have or they dont have anything to show thats the point.

[Applefiend]

If they don't show a game because 1UP made up a story about it Sony are stupid....?

Does Luke Smith set Sony policy now?

[VG Aficionado]

CVG (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=157062) is echoing what 1UP has (probably) made up, even though they seem to want to confirm it with "Well placed US sources". Probably the same ones that, according to CVG, said the European launch would be delayed until September 2007. Way to keep proving your unreliability if this ends up being false again, CVG.

[Garfunkel]

don't get your hopes up people, this is exactly what 1down want...

[Voidler]

does anyone remember the prediction I made? a repeat of history.

Motorstorm debuted at E3 05' with a CG trailer. It made it's real time debut at GDC 06. I predicted history would repeat... and looks like it may.Hopefully not as disastrous this time. Motorstorm looked awful back at GDC

Although it looks great now

[Voidler]

Why is everyone hating on 1up?

[Garfunkel]

Why is everyone hating on 1up?

because they have an unhealthy hatred of sony, i also believe they got free laptops as a "contribution" from MS.

[VG Aficionado]

Hopefully not as disastrous this time. Motorstorm looked awful back at GDC

Although it looks great nowIt doesn't matter what MotorStorm looked like at GDC as it wasn't intended to be publically showcased. It was there just to demonstrate the deformable terrain, mud effects and whatnot.

[Voidler]

It doesn't matter what MotorStorm looked like at GDC as it wasn't intended to be publically showcased. It was there just to demonstrate the deformable terrain, mud effects and whatnot.Either way, it was leaked though. I wouldn't like to see the results if the same happened to Killzone 2 - regardless of whether it's meant to be seen or not

[jaxmkii]

Why is everyone hating on 1up? :laugh: oh god you mean it dont you?...

[curryking1]

Why is everyone hating on 1up?

I don't know, maybe because it has as of the past, say, 6 - 9 months been home to the headquarters of gaming FUD? And was so good in this they could only be compared with joystiq and Kotaku?

[Voidler]

Alright, examples?

[VG Aficionado]

Alright, examples?Haven't you visited this forum in the last 9 months? :huh: 1UP hasn't exactly been quietly dissing PS3!

The latest one: Blowing ridiculous FUD out of proportion (http://forums.e-mpire.com/showthread.php?t=68695) trying to make PS3's version of Oblivion seem like utter crap, only to find out today that PS3's Oblivion is most likely technically better than 360's (http://forums.e-mpire.com/showthread.php?t=68781).

[makeitlookreal]

It's going to be great to see what Killzone finally looks like!

[Viper]

It's going to be great to see what Killzone finally looks like!

I was going to make a joke and post a shot of 'Killzone' and put lol j/k at the end but then realized how much time it would have taken to do it and felt the effort didn't outweigh the reaction I'd receive so instead I'm just telling you what I was going to do then type lol j/k and run.


Lol. J/K.

*runs*

[jaxmkii]

Alright, examples? just look at the forums...

[FantasyGhost]

Killzone 2 set to rock GDC
Wednesday 7-Feb-2007 10:08 AM Sony will unveil the flagship PS3 shooter next month, plus masses of other new games CVG has learned

The highly-anticipated PlayStation 3 sequel to Guerilla Game's Killzone is to be officially unveiled at next month's GDC, CVG has learned.

Well placed US sources have revealed to us that the flagship Sony shooter will be shown in full glory at the San Francisco event, perhaps even in the form of a playable demo.

As well as its high price point, the PS3 (like most consoles) has faced criticism for a lack of really high profile, compelling games which make it a 'must buy' and the big reveal of Killzone 2 will also form the spearhead for a raft of new PS3 game announcements at the show, which Sony hope will drive PS3 sales through the roof during the European launch and beyond in the big lead up to the all- important Christmas 2007 market.

Advertisement:

SCE worldwide studios president Phil Harrison is also due to keynote at the event, which takes place on March 5 to 9.

Killzone 2 was previously shown in video form to an impressed audience at Sony's E3 2005 press conference, but the video was later revealed to be a pre-rendered cut-scene, and not in-game graphics.

CVG will of course bring you all further developments live from GDC next month, and hopefully get hands-on impressions with the game itself. Stay tuned.http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=157062

[BillCosby]

OMFG this is going to rock so hard. I cant wait. Kz is one of my favorite games.

[GTAce]

I bet with you guys, it will be shown but not as a demo.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Is this official news????? Quoi?!!!

[FantasyGhost]

No it's not official, is from "some us guy they know". That's why i posted it in killzone rumor thread.

[julps31]

Man that would be crazy if it happened. Plus masses of other games? That would be lovely.

[LiquidEagle]

I wouldn't be surprised in the least if CVG was simply reporting 1UP's report. Stack enough rumors on top of each other and it gets hard to place real facts and equally hard to place the blame on who started such terrible rumors.

I'm excited at the prospect, but I don't think any of us should have expectations going into GDC. Especially if you want Killzone 3 to utterly blow your mind -- it might but it also might not -- it's a work in progress and even if they do show it, we might not see it.

[OmniCloud]

^Yup...just look at Halo 3..isn't exactly mind-blowing yet is it?

[Applefiend]

That's the thing about GDC, it's a developers conference, not a showcase for new games. The motorstorm demo at GDC was great, it showed one of it's innovations which was track deformation. Asshats used that demo to bash Sony "hur hur, it doesn't look like the trailer".

It may end up being more ammo for asshats.

[VG Aficionado]

Hopefully, whatever is showcased at GDC should look much better than anything we saw last year. They didn't even have final hardware or nearly final SDKs. If some stuff leaks, it won't be too bad.

[GTAce]

I believe they make the GDC more open this year.
Every hardcore gamer wants to see something from the GDC, in every gaming forum is the GDC a big thing etc. i cant remember that it was last year such a popular event.

[VG Aficionado]

To me, it became popular last year :)

[GTAce]

Yeah i didnt heard about it till i saw on a german news site that they showed MotorStorm. :laugh:

But i can really imagine that this year this event will rule the "E for All" in any direction.^^

[Shogun042]

apparently if Luke was kidding he would have said something by now.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5503672&postcount=139

[OmniCloud]

Hmm...interesting Shogun...now let's just see if he's right. Actually, I don't really care when or where it's get revealed, I just want it desperately to be another awesome FPS that takes advantage of PS3. Dying to see what this system can do.

[Applefiend]

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/762/762629p1.html

"No, Killzone won't be GDC at all," stated SCEA Manager, Ryan Bowling, in a conversation with IGN held earlier this afternoon. "The time for that game is coming and we'll have new information about it in the future, but not at GDC."

Straight from the horses mouth.

It's 1UP and Luke Smith folks. Move along, nothing to see.

Generated a lot of hits for 1UP I'm sure. That's what it's all about, right? Credability be damned!

[OmniCloud]

Ahh...yes, end the fud before it begins...some1 post this at GAF plz...I wanna see Luke's response.

[curryking1]

Hmm...interesting Shogun...now let's just see if he's right. Actually, I don't really care when or where it's get revealed, I just want it desperately to be another awesome FPS that takes advantage of PS3. Dying to see what this system can do.

Same here Omni, I just want to see what KZ can be made into on the PS3. I couldn't care less about anything else.

[Applefiend]

Maybe he'll sing his response:

"Hey, I didn't wanna be a journalist today
Just wanted to stay home and spread
FUD about Sooowww-nnneeeee

On the 1UP Show
You know you'll get a free laptop"

Eugh, sorry. :)

[Shogun042]

yeah, there is still a tid bit of hope. i mean if Guerilla wanted this to be a surprise they wouldn't confirm the rumor.

[curryking1]

^A valid conjecture, there is certainly still a possibility from where we are standing. I recommend to all of us to consider it a very slight possibility, and in the unlikely scenario it is shown, we should consider ourselves very lucky.

[Applefiend]

I think Sony may show technology which is used in Killzone, that's a goer.

[Siraris]

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/762/762629p1.html

Sorry guys, it's bogus (unless this guy at SCEA is trying to run damage control).

[jaxmkii]

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/762/762629p1.html

Sorry guys, it's bogus (unless this guy at SCEA is trying to run damage control).

what did i say

1. IGN/1up starts romors

2. gets everyone hyped

3. sits back and waits foe Sony to get thrashed for it.

[EvilTaru]

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/762/762629p1.html

Sorry guys, it's bogus (unless this guy at SCEA is trying to run damage control).

No damage done really, people got really excited which is definitely good for Sony, Ryan Bowling is cool though.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v500/EvilTaru/Indifferent2.gif

[Siraris]

I'm sad because I REALLY wanted to see Killzone at GDC :(

[frosty]

Nowhere in that statement does it say there will not be a demo of the game released. Luke didn't say for sure that GDC would be when, only that it would be before the Halo 3 beta (he then hinted at GDC, which could have been a guess). So, in no way is the rumor stricken down. All Sony said is it won't be AT GDC.

[Red_Eyes]

So it'll be at E3? LOL.

What, in 15 minutes, there'll be a new article at 1UP claiming that Killzone will not be shown at GDC, BUT WILL BE SHOWN AT E3. More traffic hits.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Haha, keep hope alive, frosty!

[frosty]

I'm not hoping for anything, I'm just calling it like it is. People here are putting words in Luke and Sony's mouths.

[Z]

What, in 15 minutes, there'll be a new article at 1UP claiming that Killzone will not be shown at GDC, BUT WILL BE SHOWN AT E3. More traffic hits.
nah, that's not how it works. 15 minutes from now, 1UP will run a piece saying Killzone's show at GDC was 'canceled' due to technical problems and will be 'delayed' many months later.

as for those who really want to see the game, don't fret, at least they gave us a release period which is by the end of 07. even if the game gets delayed for the sake of argument, we will at least get to see playable demos by then regardless.

[Garfunkel]

they might show some info on killzone at gdc, but as the scea guy said, it is a bit far out to expect a playable demo or anything major.

[TEEDA]

Guerilla said last year , before christmas that they would reveal Killzone PS3 shortly after the release of Liberation. but Phill Harisson didn't want to show anything.

[VG Aficionado]

Meh, 1UP and CVG have been exposed again.

Guerilla said last year , before christmas that they would reveal Killzone PS3 shortly after the release of Liberation. but Phill Harisson didn't want to show anything.I remember a Guerrilla developer stating in January last year that it wouldn't be "long now" until they showed Killzone. I guess Phil Harrison or someone else don't want them to show it before it's polished enough to live to some expectations (not to the unrealistic ones anyway).

[curryking1]

nah, that's not how it works. 15 minutes from now, 1UP will run a piece saying Killzone's show at GDC was 'canceled' due to technical problems and will be 'delayed' many months later.

Whichever one it is, 1up is certainly doing a disservice to gamers everywhere by publishing such misinformation.

[Garfunkel]

what do they care, luke and his merry men will sing it from the rooftops.

[TEEDA]

LoL it will be wierd if they made a surprise and say " okay ladies and gentleman, Killzone for PS3 will be released....Tomorrow ! " huh ? no reviews ? no previews ? wtf ? lol

[kaleii]

i suck. sorry. didn't see that this had been posted on the previous page. also, please kill my thread

[Z]

I remember a Guerrilla developer stating in January last year that it wouldn't be "long now" until they showed Killzone. I guess Phil Harrison or someone else don't want them to show it before it's polished enough to live to some expectations (not the unrealistic ones anyway).

or, the team could mean that they could 'talk' about it or we could hear more announcements or such. it doesn't have to be a new trailer or a demo. dunno just thinking out loud.

[jaxmkii]

LoL it will be wierd if they made a surprise and say " okay ladies and gentleman, Killzone for PS3 will be released....Tomorrow ! " huh ? no reviews ? no previews ? wtf ? lol

you know i think that would work... think of the maddness

the only way they could do that though would be a online store controled by Sony. it would be far to hard to keep that a secret.

[dnpmakkah]

Was this sort of lack in respectful journalism apparent during last generation gaming? Or is it only with next-gen that we have journalist claiming they have a 'reputable source' on almost every outlandish claim they make?

[FantasyGhost]

Anyone thinking they can do better then cvg right now?
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[GTAce]

Anyone thinking they can do better then cvg right now?

I can but i dont want to help them growing bigger.^^

[LaLiLuLeLo]

You know no matter how good it looks haters are gonna try some way to downplay it.

[jaxmkii]

You know no matter how good it looks haters are gonna try some way to downplay it.

yea when it looks too good they can always go back to the fav... "its a CG fake Sony lies again"

or "oh yea just magine what Halo4 will look like"

or "well they dont have live"

or "it will make the PS3 over heat"

or "your mom!"

[Rip3001]

Person A: "PS3 is too expensive!"

Person B: "It's a bargin for what's in the box."

Person A: "If I wanted to spend more money on a movie player, I would have."

Person B: "Uh...you did, it's that $200 HD-DVD attachment right next to your 360."

Person A: "...Blu-ray sucks."

Person B: "Sigh"

[Shogun042]

well on the bright side of things, it's only 24 days and 15 hours til we find out anything.

[PS3LikeNoOther]

yea when it looks too good they can always go back to the fav... "its a CG fake Sony lies again"

or "oh yea just magine what Halo4 will look like"

or "well they dont have live"

or "it will make the PS3 over heat"

or "your mom!"

My favorite is TGS first real game play oh that is CG we won;'t see stuff like that tell PS4. Then the game comes out 5 months later "I don't see all the hype the graphics are sub par and the gamplay sucks".

[Z]

and "it looks like a PS2 game". don't forget that one.

[Nameless]

Here's a translated interview:
(I made the translation a little smoother...)


Gamer.nl: After the glorious trailer from Killzone 3 on e3 2005, it has become very quiet around the game. How far is it in development, and what can we expect of the game?

Steven ter Heide: “I can't tell you anything about that. Developing from the game takes much time. People expect much, our goals are very high. We want to reach those.”

The trailer from e3 made great impressions, but it wasn't ingame. How will it be possible for you to impress gamers just as much as the trailer did?

“That's what we are currently working on. That's why it has been quiet around the game for quite a while, we will only show Killzone 3 when we are satisfied with it. One of the other impressive trailers on e3 2005, was Motorstorm. Everyone said that it wasn't possible to do such things ingame. But recent screenshots show how close those graphics are to the trailer. We wouldn't have made the trailer if we didn't think it was achievable."

Phil Harrison, boss from Sony Worldwide, said that the game will not release, until it exceeds the trailers expectations. Is that realistic from him?

“Is that realistic? I would say yes. He also said something like some aspects already exceed the trailer. We think the time to show the game has not been reached yet. But the goal from the trailer was that it would show a realistic image of the game.”

Harrison indeed said that certain aspects already exceed the trailer. Do you agree with him?

(After Long silence, but looking like the game will really be impressive) "What can I say? Looking to a trailer is of course always different than playing a game. But the possibilities on Playstation 3 are huge. Much is possible on this platform."


But flying airships? Helghast on fire? Brute action? How is this trailer compared to the gameplay?

“The impressions that the game will make, will be the same as the impressions that you got on the trailer."

About which aspects from Killzone (ps2) were you not satisfied with, and which improvements will Killzone 3 have?

“Many things that we did wrong, have been improved in Killzone Liberations: AI, Death animations and repeating speech from enemies. Other changes will mainly be in the first person aspect.”

What changes than?

“We want more variation in the game. The performance has to be improved as well, as that wasn't very good in Killzone (ps2) all the time"

Will killzone 3 be what Gears of War was for the 360? Thé shooter for the platform and a system seller?

“We certainly hope so, but that has to prove itself first. We certainly aim on it. We want to keep making better and better games, and Sony sees our potential. We certainly have our trust in it.”

Source:
http://www.gamer.nl/doc/36007

It's a great move by Sony to wait until this game is ready to be displayed to the public... If this is done correctly Sony could potentially steal some of Halo's thunder. Also, after seeing Crysis I think we can all agree the visuals of Killzone 3 are not out of the questions. Peace

[curryking1]

So it IS called Killzone 3! MADNESS! Lol!

Thanks a lot for the interview Nameless.

P.S. Crysis has nothing on that KZ CGI, the character models in Crysis aren't anywhere near that CGI, environments have different strengths to make the look good too. But all in all, that CG looked waaay more technically impressive than anything Crysis has put out so far, but it was a FMV.

I'm glad they only want to show the closer to final product too, I don't really want to see an unfinished one at this point waiting so long.

But flying airships? Helghast on fire? Brute action? How is this trailer compared to the gameplay?

“The impressions that the game will make, will be the same as the impressions that you got on the trailer."

Better be.

[Shogun042]

Good find Nameless.

[VG Aficionado]

Nice find! I just wish we got some real news for once, and I don't mean a few facts about it that can't be compared with the first look at the actual game. I guess it won't happen until it's almost finished.

[curryking1]

^One day, one day VG... one day it will be our time... lol.

[OmniCloud]

Great stuff Nameless! Who want to bet the member of the month will be the first person that post some Killzone actual gameplay pics? hahahhahahahah...This game better be freakin awesome and I surely hope it isn't the Gears of War for PS3-it better be LONGER!!!

[Fredag]

So it IS called Killzone 3! MADNESS! Lol!


Nope. The source says Killzone 2.

Daar zijn we nu mee bezig tijdens het werken aan Killzone 2. Daarom is het ook een tijdje stil rondom de game, we willen Killzone 2 pas echt laten zien als we er tevreden mee zijn.

I'm sorry if this is bad news. :hurt:

[OmniCloud]

Killzone 2 does make more sense...

*Killzone....
*Killzone Liberation...
*Killzone 2

[curryking1]

Why am I always wrong :(

[VG Aficionado]

What would make more sense is that Killzone PS3 will actually be "Killzone: InsertOMG!StuffHere".

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Killzone: Better than that other overhyped FPS

[frosty]

Killzone: Master Chief's Worst Nightmare


Resistance 2: Master Chief's Worst Nightmare Pt. 2

[Shogun042]

maybe they should call it Killzone 360. i mean didn't M$ name the Xbox that because Xbox 2 sounded inferior to PS3?

[LaLiLuLeLo]

maybe they should call it Killzone 360. i mean didn't M$ name the Xbox that because Xbox 2 sounded inferior to PS3?

chortle-chortle-chortle

It really should be, Killzone: HaloIsOverhypedCuzAllofXbox1'sLaunchGamesWereTerri ble.

[curryking1]

Hey hey hey... Hey.. Halo CE is still frigging awesome.

[Applefiend]

Thank gawd they're fixing the repeated speech.

"Scatta! Grenade"
"Keeeeeel him"

[curryking1]

^O dear... honestly, that was kind of annoying.

[fos]

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=927750&topic=33941360

plz confirm this story EGM-er. :( it is too early for me to get my copy here in egypt.

[Kabbage]

Bwhahaha... I will believe that when I see it.

Or Capt. Planet tells me it is true.

[venomv]

I don't have my copy yet, they always seem to come late to me.

[Rip3001]

*Killzone 2 Shown at GDC*

"Oh! I see aliasing on that pebble on the ground by the destroyed jeep's transmission! Sony failed gamers!"

[fos]

sry 4 the idiot title

[woundingchaney]

The problem with KZ is that despite what Sony shows its going to be hailed as a complete failure as it isnt going to meet the cgi, regardless of the quality of the title or not. I hope Sony realizes this and comes through with someone extraordinary in its own right.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

I'll believe it when I see it.

[n1n9tean]

If that interview really is in the magazine and he really said that, then at this point I see no reason to doubt him assuming he's not a complete RAT-BASTARD. (I never assume the worst of people)

He's talking about showing gameplay footage within the next 2 weeks. He wouldn't ruin every single range of expectations by saying what he said when we are so close to zero hour if he knows the footage won't back it up. In the case that it didn't match or exceed the cgi, right now would be the time to throw flour on the flame NOT gasoline.

[FantasyGhost]

Howcome it's not mentioned here? http://www.1up.com/do/minisite?cId=3157392

[frosty]

Thing is, no matter how close they come, they will still be considered a failure. Hell, that battlefield trailer would have passed as good enough for me, and it's a multiplatform title! I feel they will come closer than most of us think, but the fanboys will still rip it to shreds none the less.

[VG Aficionado]

Thing is, no matter how close they come, they will still be considered a failure. Hell, that battlefield trailer would have passed as good enough for me, and it's a multiplatform title! I feel they will come closer than most of us think, but the fanboys will still rip it to shreds none the less.Agreed. We all know that is what's going to happen.

"It looks like a PS2 game with N64 textures! Kameo looks better!"

[Rip3001]

Agreed. We all know this is what's going to happen.

"It looks like a PS2 game with N64 textures! Kameo looks better!"

Wii port confimed.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

hahahahahah.

[n1n9tean]

I just watched the cgi to refresh my memory. If gameplay looks anything CLOSE to that then I doubt even the most evil and DASTARDLY of fanboys can withhold due respect.

[Dims]

I would have thought that Sony would make the showing of killzone some sort of surprise in order to wow audiences. To put a surprise demo on psn wouldn't exactly work if they announce it unofficially in a magazine. I wouldn't be surprised if this was not true at all. Phil Harrison has already claimed that killzone was at a phenominal level when it comes to reaching and possibly exceeding the trailer shown so that's not really big news.

[FantasyGhost]

Yet another thing Phil might be announcing at GDC then, what else we might expect from him? Almost everything is already covered.

[PlayBoy]

Is this real? If real it's cool, it not hey another gamefaq hoax.

[Vegtro]

Who cares about killzone, I want my SOCOM!!!

[Garfunkel]

good chance it's real this close to GDC, but i'm not expecting anything until it happens.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

@vegtro: *slap*

[Garfunkel]

someone needs to change the title to make sense.

[n1n9tean]

It would make perfect sense to Borat. That should be taken into consideration.

[n1n9tean]

whoopsadaze.

[Garfunkel]

It would make perfect sense to Borat. That should be taken into consideration before changing the title.

Borat is one man, there are hundreds of people who are going to view this, that should be taken into consideration too.

[frosty]

My name a frosty. I am exite about motorstorm interview!

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/twentieth_century_fox/borat/sacha_baron_cohen/boratcannes6.jpg

[n1n9tean]

lol, hey frosty he thought I was serious.

EDIT: ROFL, I should neg rep you for that pic man.

...but I'll +rep you instead since I know it's the opposite of what you wanted. :thumbl:

[Sypher]

Is it wrong that im slightly attracted to that pic?



















what has the internet done to me..................

[Vegtro]

That pic needs to be outlawed.

[n1n9tean]

Sypher, look at his crotch. Focus. It invites you.

[dnpmakkah]

The problem with KZ is that despite what Sony shows its going to be hailed as a complete failure as it isnt going to meet the cgi, regardless of the quality of the title or not. I hope Sony realizes this and comes through with someone extraordinary in its own right.Sadly this is true. However, I think the only people that will consider it a 'complete failure' are 360 fanboys. Even if the game is better then the CGI (not likely) they would still consider it a failure. That's the beauty of it. Killzone will look good, play good and have a good story (something Sony is great at), it will sell millions yet the fanboys will still be negative towards it.

Killzone could look better than Gears of War and the fanboys would still hate. Halo can look like crap and the xbox fanboys will praise it as the second coming. Not saying fanboyism is onesided because Sony has them too.

[Jay Gee]

I don't even think it's going to that bad. The reception of the actual game Killzone, I mean. With everything Sony's pouring into this game, it's going to have it's own flair the same way Motorstorm does. The people who see this game and see it as something they NEED will outnumber the ignorant fanboys completely.

Serioulsy, who gives a rat's ASS about Killzone haters? Let them continue to hate. I don't want them hogging the bandwidth that could be allocated to somebody who's more deserving of playing it. And Halo 3 literally will have to be the second coming, because Halo 2 was a f*cking FLOP. Yeah, it sold, but in terms of doing what Halo 1 did, it didn't come close. It's the Matrix Reloaded of First Person Shooters.

[Grovestreet]

Well the graphics can be perhaps Accomplished, But the Animation And AI wont be like the trailer, Thats for sure, Unless there is afew Scripted events.

[Z]

I would have thought that Sony would make the showing of killzone some sort of surprise in order to wow audiences. To put a surprise demo on psn wouldn't exactly work if they announce it unofficially in a magazine. I wouldn't be surprised if this was not true at all. Phil Harrison has already claimed that killzone was at a phenominal level when it comes to reaching and possibly exceeding the trailer shown so that's not really big news.
just so that a hyper-active fan won't take that to far; what he says may very well be the same as how MotorStorm compares to its trailer. he did say MotorStorm exceeded the trailer in some aspects like number of cars on screen and what not.
the good news is, I see MotorStorm as looking and playing fantastically well. so if Killzone will be anything like that to its trailer, "we're in for one hell of a night" - 300

Well the graphics can be perhaps Accomplished, But the Animation And AI wont be like the trailer, Thats for sure, Unless there is afew Scripted events.
the graphics? not in your dreams. the animation? I think it can be achieved to a certain extent. just leave out those cinematic ones out and you shouldn't have a problem.
AI? what AI? every single act (from both sides) was scripted to the letter. there was no decision making in the game at all out side of the gamer's own actions. I don't know why some talk about the AI in the trailer where there hasn't been anything except for very primary things like "shoot the other side".

to make it simpler; imagine you were playing the trailer. now imagine you had to die a dozen times in that part. what do you think will change? the Helghan will still pop at the stairs. your captain will still hit him in the head and he will still hold on the rails. everything is canned. many games do that in what it is nowadays called "scripted scenes"- emphasis on the word 'scripted'.

[Z]

My name a frosty. I am exite about motorstorm interview!

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/twentieth_century_fox/borat/sacha_baron_cohen/boratcannes6.jpg

that pic should be band by international law....

[Garfunkel]

Well the graphics can be perhaps Accomplished, But the Animation And AI wont be like the trailer, Thats for sure, Unless there is afew Scripted events.

agreed, i don't have any reason to believe the ps3 couldn't pull of the visual splender, the animation is so good it is impossible on the hardware in real time IMO.

[frosty]

the animation is possible, look at euphoria. It's the things like smoke and fire, as well as the lighting to a minor extent that will take a hit in the visual department. However I'd like to be pleasantly surprised.

[Garfunkel]

i'd like to be surprised too, but i still don't think it will happen, but if it did i'd run down to my local Woolworths naked and scream "who wants a snow cone!!!"

[frosty]

just make sure to put a snow cone over your manhood so you don't go to jail.

[joe]

the animation is possible, look at euphoria. It's the things like smoke and fire, as well as the lighting to a minor extent that will take a hit in the visual department. However I'd like to be pleasantly surprised.

http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/713/713943/img_4366493.html
http://www.nexgam.de/images/screenshots/newsbilder/ps3/killzone.jpg

[Garfunkel]

just make sure to put a snow cone over your manhood so you don't go to jail.

lol, NOTHING SUSS!

edit ^first link doesn't work mate

[n1n9tean]

i'd like to be surprised too, but i still don't think it will happen, but if it did i'd run down to my local Woolworths naked and scream "who wants a snow cone!!!"

lol, you DO have a sense of humor. :thumbl:

[Garfunkel]

of course i do, what made you think i didn't?

[n1n9tean]

oh, nuthin' :thumbl: (man I have to stop using that smiley.... it's my favorite because it reminds me of Conan O'Brian)

[Garfunkel]

*investigates deeper*

[Smokey]

i reckon they could pull the visuals off, just wouldnt be as smooth flowing

[Garfunkel]

if you watch the trailer again, you will see what i mean by the animation and atmosphere being just too much for the ps3, doing all that at once while having such great graphics would be an absolute shock if it were to happen.

[Smokey]

yeah other than the "smoke etc & AI" i think the rest could be pulled off . but i understand what you mean garf.

also where is the Highest res video i can download ? the one i have is 90 meg & not 720

[9thPower]

Well the graphics can be perhaps Accomplished, But the Animation And AI wont be like the trailer, Thats for sure, Unless there is afew Scripted events.

don't be so sure. Did you see the new trailer from bioshock? :buldge: I think we might be surprised, in a good way.

[Smokey]

don't be so sure. Did you see the new trailer from bioshock? :buldge: I think we might be surprised, in a good way.

im hopin mate :)

[cliffbo]

if you remember just recently IBM and highmoon studios have been explaining the use of procedural animations to Vivendi and also demonstrating how to get the most out of the Cell/RSX combo. i would imagine that Guerilla (think thats spell it LOL) have also benefited. there is no reason to assume that what we have seen in the video of this game cannot be imitated in game. i have high hopes for this title and judging from Motorstorm and RFOM, that hope is about to be rewarded

[Voidler]

That interview reads so fake. Guerilla are generally very modest in their interviews

[NickSCFC]

Face it, this game doesn't exist and we're never going to see it.

[Garfunkel]

Face it, this game doesn't exist and we're never going to see it.

haha, that made me chuckle.

i really want the animation and AI components to be as good as in the trailer, i really do, all i'm saying is don't expect it, you might just be let down, it's happened so many times before to all of us.

[Shodan]

If new Killzone demo exceed or, at least match E3 trailer, B3D's Laa-Yosh will be very, very suprised.